Wonder Project J2: Rare gem of a N64 jrpg

[kainemaxwell]

Thanks to Aussie2B pimping this title out in another thread I decided to give it a shot, with the translation patch once i found my N64 emulator. I was surprised by the high quality of this title by Enix. I'm playing it now, still near the beginning and getting used to everything but it's one of those off-the-track rpgs like Harvest moon or Animal Crossing that makes niche titles gems.

Now if i can just get Josette to stop eating books...

[Aussie2B]

Glad to hear you're giving it a try and enjoying it. :) You should try the original on Super Famicom as well, although it's not quite as good, in my opinion. Oh, and in that one you can smack Pino over the head with a mallet when he's eating something he shouldn't. :P Granted, it's a little more crucial in that game when he might try to eat the cat, hehe.

[roushimsx]

The only thing holding me back from giving this a shot is that I'm waiting for PJ64 v1.7 to officially be released (which is a bit of a ways away). At least, it's the excuse I use to keep from having to mess around with Nemu64 and focus on my current crop of games, anyway :)

[kainemaxwell]

This game is one of those guilty pleasures where you can be as nice or mean depending on your mood, I love it.

So far i've finally gotten used to the interface, did accomplishments 1, 4, 5, and 19.

btw Aussie, love your faq and forum postings at gamefaqs.

[Daria]

I couldn't figure out how to setup Nemu64 with my USB Gamepad... which really sucks. I really want to play this game (and have since the patch was released) I absolutely loved the first one, but I just can't get used to the controls on the keyboard. I dunno... maybe I'm retarded. :P

[Aussie2B]

Well, I definitely wouldn't want to play on a keyboard. It's not exactly a game with demanding controls, but it does feel great with a N64 controller. The Z-trigger just matches so well with the game; I almost wish I could play the original with it.

Thanks, Kaine. :) If you need any more help, just let me know, and I'll try to dredge up my memory of the finer points of the gameplay.

[kainemaxwell]

I couldn't figure out how to setup Nemu64 with my USB Gamepad... which really sucks. I really want to play this game (and have since the patch was released) I absolutely loved the first one, but I just can't get used to the controls on the keyboard. I dunno... maybe I'm retarded. :P

Project 64's (1.6) setup isn't bad at all actually.

Any other ideas about that issue I pm'ed you about earlier? Also even though I taught J how to use the mop and clean herself (damn I feel dirty playing this sometimes), I can still get achievement 3 after I forcefeed her bad movies right?

[Cryomancer]

Someone finally did do a patch for this? Holy shit I wanted that since the day Nintendo Power taunted me about never getting to play it.

[kainemaxwell]

Someone finally did do a patch for this? Holy shit I wanted that since the day Nintendo Power taunted me about never getting to play it.

http://www.seiyuu.info/wpj2/
Awesome patch is awesome.

[Niku-Sama]

is awsome patch awsome for a reason?

[kainemaxwell]

is awesome patch awesome for a reason?
If you want to play this in English, then yes!

[Daria]

Project 64's setup isn't bad at all actually.

Except the game doesn't run correctly using it. :/

[kainemaxwell]

Except the game doesn't run correctly using it. :/

How so and what emu you recommend then?

[YrGod]

I'll be checking this one out as soon as I setup an emulater.

[Aussie2B]

Any other ideas about that issue I pm'ed you about earlier? Also even though I taught J how to use the mop and clean herself (damn I feel dirty playing this sometimes), I can still get achievement 3 after I forcefeed her bad movies right?

Nah, I unfortunately don't have any other ideas. What areas exactly is the game not letting you enter according to the map?

http://membres.lycos.fr/wonderproject/faq/map.jpg

I would get achievement 6 first and then Gante will let you enter the secret forest. I can't remember if you can enter the Siliconian Airforce areas right from the beginning, but at the very least you should be able to go to the normal Blueland forest area. I'm really leaning towards your problem being emulator related.

As for achievement 3, you don't have to worry about messing up any achievements as they'll always still be available no matter what you do. Is there a movie somehow related to cleaning? I'd just recommend having Josette watch every movie once at the beginning of the game. It'll save you some trouble later on, although you will have to watch one or two over again later on (understanding love usually takes at least a couple watchings of the Romeo & Juliet rip-off). Anyway, how far around are you into the cleaning achievements? I'm guessing she showered but hated it? Have you messed around with the washing machine yet? It's usually a combination of using the sink, shower, and washing machine at that point, until she asks if water makes things clean. Then have her wash her face, she'll understand finally, and she'll want to use the mop.

[kainemaxwell]

18-20 on the map. When I play later I'll try to do achievement 6.

For cleaning, it took about 5-6 minutes for her to stop making me dizzy with her own spinning and figured out that water = clean, so I gave her some RGB. But she hasn't asked about the mop. maybe I'll try that one first and go carry a tray off the floor a few times.

Is there some trigger message she gives after seeing 5-6 movies, or just go? Also, how many times do I have do do Gante's before getting paid (I read the pilot's manual already).

[Daria]

How so and what emu you recommend then?

Well I didn't get too far before I noticed it was glitchy and switched emulators. During the "video" sequence when Geppetto's on his death bed there were boxes around Jossete's mouth and his mouth, and their eyes. Basically anywhere they would line up a moving sprite over the still image. Nothing that would prevent you from continuing te game. But annoying to look at.

[kainemaxwell]

Well I didn't get too far before I noticed it was glitchy and switched emulators. During the "video" sequence when Geppetto's on his death bed there were boxes around Jossete's mouth and his mouth, and their eyes. Basically anywhere they would line up a moving sprite over the still image. Nothing that would prevent you from continuing the game. But annoying to look at.

Ok, I have Rice's plugin set for pj64 and Nemu and the game looks better! I also discovered that issue I had with not being able to get to areas 18-20 is in Nemu also, so maybe it is something with the game? and how the heck do I get Nemu to make the save file for J2?!

[Haoie]

I've played the first game, it's fun but extremely frustrating.

It's like as soon as you teach the kid something, then you need to teach him the opposite.

[Damaramu]

I recently (a few months ago) picked up this game complete off of Ebay. I have yet to play it as I still need to mod my N64. It's cool to see this game get some attention again.

Additionally, I just picked up this book. Anyone have a copy?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/Damaramu/c2ec37cc.jpg

[kainemaxwell]

Ok I tested the untranslated rom, seems you still can't go to areas 18-20 right away (maybe after you learn to greet people?)

Is there some trigger message she gives after seeing 5-6 movies, or just go? Also, how many times do I have do do Gante's before getting paid (I read the pilot's manual already).

[Aussie2B]

I've played the first game, it's fun but extremely frustrating.

It's like as soon as you teach the kid something, then you need to teach him the opposite.

Yeah, it can get a little annoying. The sequel did away with that. You never have to "unlearn" anything. Although, there's one or two parts where you have to teach Josette the wrong thing to do in order to make the story progress until you're supposed to teach her the correct thing.


Additionally, I just picked up this book. Anyone have a copy?

I do (predictably, heh). :) It's a really terrific book and lives up to its title of "fan book". It's loaded with art and sketches of nearly every single character in the entire game, and it's even got tons of prototype sketches as well. Lots of cool info too, but if you're fluent in Japanese, I'm sure you'll get way more out of the text that I can. I especially love the section about merchandise since I collect everything and anything related to the series. Beyond this book and the games, I got the strategy guides for both, a couple manga, a couple magazines with WPJ2 covers (and coverage, of course), a complete manufacturer's box for WPJ2, and who knows what I may be forgetting. There's very few goods out there related to the series, so I'm lucky if I'm able to come across a new item for my collection every year or two.

[kainemaxwell]

SUCCESS!! The game finally let me finish the tasks involving Gante and starting the path for the movie auditions! So now I can finally get up to those last 3 areas of the island- already taught her to sing, Aarnold's running around (that's one ugly coat), and other paths to achievements are now open. :)

And what's with the old guy in the alley...?

[kainemaxwell]

I should really get back to playing this, just realized I still had it sitting around on my pc. lol Just gotta figure where I left off so long ago. lol