Does Atlus reprint their titles?

[Fearless]

All their rpg's for the ps2 sky rocket in price.....will they ever reprint some of these?

[sisko]

They reprinted Disgaea several times.

[Daria]

Well considering games like Nocturne and Disgaea have already seen reprints. Yes, they do this regularly.

[SamuraiSmurfette]

I actually asked Atlus directly about this.
according to them their strategy is as follows:
(not *actual* quote...as I didnt record our conversation)

"We'd rather release a smaller number of copies of a title, rather than having a surplus just sitting on store shelves subject to repeat markdowns. We realize that our games don't have as much of a mass-market, and we cater to that"

I for one give a thumbs up to them. You're not gonna see truckloads of Atlus games for $8.98 in the dump bin at Wal-Mart. They don't want to see themselves there.

But they are aware of the second-hand market of titles and periodically things are 'reviewed', but for the most part, buy em while you can as new releases. As it seems that their strategy is for their titles to maintain (and increase) in value.

[SamuraiSmurfette]

And weren't Disgaea et al reprinted by a third-party? GQD?

[heybtbm]

And weren't Disgaea et al reprinted by a third-party? GQD?

No. It was Atlus themselves. The only Atlus games GQD reprinted were Persona 2 and Rhapsody.

[djbeatmongrel]

No. It was Atlus themselves. The only Atlus games GQD reprinted were Persona 2 and Rhapsody.

you are forgetting cubivore

[raregamergirl]

Atlas has said that after collector's were angry with them over past reprints that they will not be reprinting any more titles at all in the future.

So, basically, do not expect reprints of any Atlus games. If you want it, grab it while you can.

[heybtbm]

Well considering games like Nocturne and Disgaea have already seen reprints. Yes, they do this regularly.

The official line from Atlus (on the old Atlus.com forums) is that Nocturne was never reprinted. Only Disgaea.

[incubus421]

Also forgetting Ogre Battle March of the Black Queen for SNES was reprinted for the PSX. Not sure if Tactics Ogre (superfamicom) counts as it was not released in the US until the reprint of the PSX version as well.

And I don't have much knowledge on the Growlanser series but I belive there are reprinted compilations of some of these games. Working Designs is the one that did Growlanser Generations.

[TonyTheTiger]

I actually asked Atlus directly about this.
according to them their strategy is as follows:
(not *actual* quote...as I didnt record our conversation)

"We'd rather release a smaller number of copies of a title, rather than having a surplus just sitting on store shelves subject to repeat markdowns. We realize that our games don't have as much of a mass-market, and we cater to that"

Sounds like Atlus is channeling Vic Ireland from Working Designs. That was his exact reasoning.


I for one give a thumbs up to them. You're not gonna see truckloads of Atlus games for $8.98 in the dump bin at Wal-Mart. They don't want to see themselves there.

It's more about making a sound business decision. Why print thousands upon thousands of copies that aren't going to sell? That can only bite you in the ass after a while. That whole "we don't want to see our stuff selling cheap" is just a PR spin to make it sound nicer.

[heybtbm]

Also forgetting Ogre Battle March of the Black Queen for SNES was reprinted for the PSX. Not sure if Tactics Ogre (superfamicom) counts as it was not released in the US until the reprint of the PSX version as well.

You've misunderstood. The original post is inquiring about reprints of existing games, not ports of older games on newer systems.

[TonyTheTiger]

Atlas has said that after collector's were angry with them over past reprints that they will not be reprinting any more titles at all in the future.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So in other words, Atlus is openly willing to limit their profits because a handful of whiny "OMG my copy isn't worth $100 anymore!" collectors get pissy? If Atlus said that I don't buy it for a minute. If they can make some more cash off of a reprint they'll do it. I would. Collecting anything is a gamble. Sometimes you win, other times you lose. Anyone who gets involved in the hobby either knows or should know that value can fluctuate and it's not the publisher's job to make sure the market doesn't change. I think Atlus was just paying lip service to the people who go out and buy every title in hopes of ending up with the next diamond in the rough.

[Bojay1997]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So in other words, Atlus is openly willing to limit their profits because a handful of whiny "OMG my copy isn't worth $100 anymore!" collectors get pissy? If Atlus said that I don't buy it for a minute. If they can make some more cash off of a reprint they'll do it. I would. Collecting anything is a gamble. Sometimes you win, other times you lose. Anyone who gets involved in the hobby either knows or should know that value can fluctuate and it's not the publisher's job to make sure the market doesn't change. I think Atlus was just paying lip service to the people who go out and buy every title in hopes of ending up with the next diamond in the rough.

This is by no means their official policy. One of their customer service people posts regularly on their forums and indicated they would try to limit reprints in response to some hostile e-mails they had received in response to previous reprints. I guarantee if there is an opportunity to sell more copies, they will do it. As a corporation, that's their obligation to their investors. I'm guessing they will just be a little more subtle about it.

[TonyTheTiger]

This is by no means their official policy. One of their customer service people posts regularly on their forums and indicated they would try to limit reprints in response to some hostile e-mails they had received in response to previous reprints. I guarantee if there is an opportunity to sell more copies, they will do it. As a corporation, that's their obligation to their investors. I'm guessing they will just be a little more subtle about it.

Heh, maybe GQD is a front. :evil: But, really, it's amusing. Not so much that Atlus said what it said (obviously you don't want to alienate any potential customers) but that it felt it necessary to say it at all. Sour grapes on the part of anyone sending in angry emails about a reprint.

[SamuraiSmurfette]

What I don't understand is why publishers don't put "1st printing" etc. on the games like books and such. Thus, retaining collector value, creating reason to purchase at launch, and being able to reprint as nessesary.

[Bojay1997]

What I don't understand is why publishers don't put "1st printing" etc. on the games like books and such. Thus, retaining collector value, creating reason to purchase at launch, and being able to reprint as nessesary.

Because it provides absolutely no benefit to the publisher and may have the potential to limit sales of a reprint and encourage people to pay inflated prices on Ebay where the publishers get no cut of the higher prices. For a publisher like Atlas, the fact that some of their games become in demand after they sell out doesn't benefit them at all, other than maybe to move a few more copies of less in demand titles to speculators who assume anything with Atlus on it will become valuable.

[xfrumx]

i would buy multiple printings of one game if they did that!

[TonyTheTiger]

Plus, it's really only books that do the whole first printing, second printing, etc. When DVDs get reprints they don't note from which printing it comes.

Not to mention, does it really matter? What if every copy of Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt were individually numbered? "I've got #34,678!" Big deal, right? That's worth a nickel. Then the next guy comes up and says "I've got #1!" Now, yeah, that'll probably sell for more than my copy...but it's totally artificial. It's like literally playing a game. The numbers are there for the sole purpose of giving collectors something to play with. They have absolutely no meaning otherwise. It's why when things actually are numbered it's usually a relatively small printing. You'll see #5/100 or something. It's additional incentive to encourage people to pick up the phone and dial that 1-800 number at 2:30 in the morning.

I thought about this in relation to "Greatest Hits" packaging. Most people who have a problem with it do so because it's ugly. Especially the green in PSX games. I'm included. It's usually uglier than the original packaging. Shallow, I know, but if given a choice I'll go for the standard release. But because the packaging is different it's given people a reason to place artificial value on the original release that wouldn't exist if the idea of "greatest hits" involved nothing more than a price drop. There's really no legitimate reasoning behind it...the game is presumably the same. But now instead of it being say one copy out of 10,000, now it's one copy out of 6,000 originals whereas the remaining 4,000 are greatest hits. Like the pool magically shrunk.

I'm not saying any of this is necessarily bad just that I take a slightly cynical view toward anything that seems to be little more than "collector bait" hocked on late night infomercials.

[bcks007]

The official line from Atlus (on the old Atlus.com forums) is that Nocturne was never reprinted. Only Disgaea.

There are 2 versions of Nocturne, so unless both where printed at the same time, then it got a reprint.
Its talked about a little in this topic,
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73673

[heybtbm]

There are 2 versions of Nocturne, so unless both where printed at the same time, then it got a reprint.
Its talked about a little in this topic,
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73673

I think you're taking the word "reprint" a little too seriously. "Reprint" in the context of this topic is referring to the time Atlus completely stopped production of Disgaea. Once word of mouth got around of how incredible the game was and seeing that copies were selling for over $100 on ebay, Atlus commission another printing (how much Nippon Ichi was involved in this decision remains unknown). This was the first time they had ever done this. This wasn't even enough, as Disgaea was later printed in a third batch a year later.

The Nocturne "reprinting" is not a true reprinting at all. It's the way most publishers handle any title. Atlus apparently printed "X" number of Nocturne (with soundtrack) before release and "X" number of regular editions after release. They've said themselves that it wasn't reprinted. I can't imagine why they would say that if it wasn't true.

[TonyTheTiger]

It's possible they just staggered the release. Just because 100,000 of something are planned on being shipped doesn't mean they absolutely require all 100,000 to be available to ship on the exact same day. Maybe some are stocked away in a warehouse. Maybe they aren't going to be printed until they need to be. Either way, all 100,000 still would qualify as a first printing I think.

Also, wasn't it said that Rhapsody wasn't reprinted? Just that the new stock was actually old stock sent to retailers very very late?

[heybtbm]

Also, wasn't it said that Rhapsody wasn't reprinted? Just that the new stock was actually old stock sent to retailers very very late?

No, GQD reprinted it along with Persona 2. You can still buy copies directly (http://www.gamequestdirect.com/730865520183.html).

[TonyTheTiger]

That site makes me think we'd be better off listing games that haven't been reprinted by GQD. And is it any wonder why they don't leave any distinguishing marks showing that it's a reprint? By not doing so they won't limit the appeal of their merchandise. Though I bet after a while someone somewhere will start to figure out patterns in the barcodes or something crazy to make the determination one way or another.

[raregamergirl]

It actually isn't as dumb of a business decision as you are making it out to be.

It 100 percent guarantees every single game they release, regardless bad or good, WILL sell out.

It also keeps those customers happy.

If you really do not believe them that they would reprint a game if there was demand for it, look at Persona 3. Sealed copies are already pulling over $75 online and there IS demand for it (strong demand). As of today, no reprint and no word of one ever coming (unless you call the possible Persona 3 game coming out a "reprint". it isn't the exact same game, though, and it seems it probably will not come to the US).

Their customer base is one that buys every single title they put out. If they were to start doing reprints etc, that customer base could very well falter. They may not do INCREDIBLY well, but they are doing better than Working Designs did so they must be doing something correctly.

[cyberfluxor]

What I don't understand is why publishers don't put "1st printing" etc. on the games like books and such. Thus, retaining collector value, creating reason to purchase at launch, and being able to reprint as nessesary.
Zomigodz! I got the last print of Halo! This is the official "out of print" copy!

A little twist on the idea of prints but obviously "monster releases" will sell in bulk and slow down production after a few months, like Madden.

For the record though, Atlus is a wonderful company with lots of great hits but they receive this gaming cult status that sometimes brings too much attention on them, which does create these shortages everywhere. As someone who enjoys their games a few extra copies on each print would be nice. :)

[TonyTheTiger]

It actually isn't as dumb of a business decision as you are making it out to be.

It 100 percent guarantees every single game they release, regardless bad or good, WILL sell out.

It also keeps those customers happy.

If you really do not believe them that they would reprint a game if there was demand for it, look at Persona 3. Sealed copies are already pulling over $75 online and there IS demand for it (strong demand). As of today, no reprint and no word of one ever coming (unless you call the possible Persona 3 game coming out a "reprint". it isn't the exact same game, though, and it seems it probably will not come to the US).

Their customer base is one that buys every single title they put out. If they were to start doing reprints etc, that customer base could very well falter. They may not do INCREDIBLY well, but they are doing better than Working Designs did so they must be doing something correctly.

Maybe but obviously something like Disgaea has proven to have a broader appeal than just hardcore Atlus lovers. It's entirely possible that Atlus is slowly approaching a more mainstream appeal. Certainly more than they were back in the days of Ogre Battle. So maybe they won't do reprints but that's no promise initial batches won't involve far more copies than they would have done in the past. Either way, Atlus should take advantage of whatever success it has or will have.

Atlus is slowly becoming a "mainstream cult" company. If you need something to compare it to think "The Evil Dead." Here you have a film that defines B-movie. By all accounts this is a niche movie. But at the same time it has wide appeal. Even people who don't watch B-movies or independent films know The Evil Dead.

[Bojay1997]

It actually isn't as dumb of a business decision as you are making it out to be.

It 100 percent guarantees every single game they release, regardless bad or good, WILL sell out.

It also keeps those customers happy.

If you really do not believe them that they would reprint a game if there was demand for it, look at Persona 3. Sealed copies are already pulling over $75 online and there IS demand for it (strong demand). As of today, no reprint and no word of one ever coming (unless you call the possible Persona 3 game coming out a "reprint". it isn't the exact same game, though, and it seems it probably will not come to the US).

Their customer base is one that buys every single title they put out. If they were to start doing reprints etc, that customer base could very well falter. They may not do INCREDIBLY well, but they are doing better than Working Designs did so they must be doing something correctly.

This is just not true. Every Atlus title no longer sells out and those that do no longer command substantial premiums over what the MSRP was originally. Sure, there are exceptions, but despite the claims in this thread, Atlus has absolutely not ruled out doing reprints on their games. Persona 3 is still available in a number of retail stores, although it does appear to be sold out at all the major on-line retailers. Persona 3 has been in stock used on the Gamestop website off and on this week for $40 and many store locations still have new and used copies available. Most purchasers of Atlus titles are not collectors, but rather hardcore video game RPG fans who actually play their games. Those gamers buy good games, not necessarily every game by a particular manufacturer and they could care less if 1,000 copies or a million of a game are pressed, as long as they can get one. Look at what happened with Devil Summoner (Dropped to $20 at many retailers and it's still widely available) or with Atelier Iris 2 and 3. Not exactly spiraling up in price. It's kind of like those collector coins you see on informercials. Every game does not go up in value and many go down.

[raregamergirl]

I do agree with you that it is certain that Atlus has had larger and larger initial print runs with titles they expect to sell well.

A good example of this is the game I just mentioned- Persona 3. There are a lot of copies out there, but because there will be no more printed, it has managed to keep a high value.

Other games, such as Ar Tonelico made by NIS, seem to have had a smaller print run. Ar Tonelico makes sense to have had a smaller print run as it wa. It was not as popular (yes, it pulls good money on ebay, but only because it is semi obscure already and never had a large print run to begin with. If it had a larged print run, such as the one for Persona 3, I do not think it would pull nearly what it does now.)

While Atlus is getting to be more popular, I would not say they are mainstream by any means. It is possible they could become mainstream, but it is not going to happen overnight. Square-Enix has paved the way for other RPG's outside of the Final Fantasy series to possibly become mainstream, but it is still not easy to do.

I am all for companies like Nippon Ichi and Atlus pulling in the bid money for the work they do, so I hope they do push their titles that they are confident in more and more in the future.

Also, just because it sells out does not mean it will be over retail. Try to find a game like Magna carta new. Out of print, can't find it- but it does not go for over retail. I did not say they will command high premiums. The games that had a low or semi low print run and were actually GOOD, will go high. A lot of collectors these days will grab two copies of the games they think will maintain their values- one to play and one to keep sealed.

I am not one of those people and I did not say that all these games will hold their values- they won't and I agree only the truly great games will.

[raregamergirl]

Devil Summoner is a TERRIBLE example. They expected it to do incredibly well and they learned from that. It still only had one print, it just did not sell out that print and still has not to this day. They expected it to reap the word of mouth from the Digital Devil Saga games and it just was not a very good game at all (I hated it).

You also can't mention gamestop selling USED games on their site. Yes, they are going to get used games in. Go check online and see what it is selling for used. Gamestop gets just about every game in stock here and there, does that all of a sudden mean that is what they are worth?

Atelier Iris 2 and 3 were Nippon Ichi. NOT exactly the same.

Also, I was trying to get at the point that when Atlus does not make some ridiculously high print run, the games will sell out and not be reprinted.

Atlus also makes games like Trauma Center, which are obviously going to have HUGE print runs and not be valuable or hard to find. The games that he is talking about that NEED a print run, such as Persona, Nocturne, DDS etc were the ones that I am speaking of. NOT speaking of stuff you can still find with ease, but only the games that are already getting hard to find and if they will reprint them.

[roushimsx]

Devil Summoner is a TERRIBLE example. They expected it to do incredibly well and they learned from that. It still only had one print, it just did not sell out that print and still has not to this day. They expected it to reap the word of mouth from the Digital Devil Saga games and it just was not a very good game at all (I hated it).

In contrast to your opinion, I felt that it was the most enjoyable MegaTen game released in the US thus far and the localization was among the best of any game I've played. Wonderful dialog, enjoyable gameplay, and a fusion system that's intuitive and logical. Combat wasn't terribly deep, but it very rarely is in console RPGs. Some truly great humor, too.

Bonus points for frivolous stuff like the snazzy setting and ridiculously long subtitle.

The low price point on it is a total bonus and hopefully it'll encourage more people to give it a shot, though with the hardcore MegaTen audience shunning it and shitting on it at every turn, it's not likely. Shame.

[TonyTheTiger]

Anyone know what kind of print numbers the average Atlus title does get? I'm starting to think that GQD actually prints more copies than even Atlus did but without either number there's no way of knowing.

[Bojay1997]

A good example of this is the game I just mentioned- Persona 3. There are a lot of copies out there, but because there will be no more printed, it has managed to keep a high value.



This is not a fact, it's pure speculation and conjecture on your part. I believe Persona 3 has gone up in value because it's a great game and not everyone goes to Kmart and the other places it is still in stock, so they just assume it's sold out and they resort to Ebay and pay what they need to so they can own a new copy. A lot of people don't worry about spending an extra $15-$20 over MSRP to own a game they know will be great. Nobody knows if Persona 3 will get a reprint or not and frankly, nobody but Atlus knows what the initial print run was like.

The NIS games are not any different than Atlus games with regard to rarity or people speculating. The difference is that many of their games have become generic and disfavored by people that actually play them, so they are selling less and less each time they release a new but only slightly modified game.

[raregamergirl]

It sells for about $75 plus shipping on average, that is a solid $30 over retail after tax and shipping etc.

So, I am going on the fact that it has not yet been reprinted and people saying Atlus has said there will no more reprints. You are saying there will be a reprint then? I am basing it on what Atlus has said. Nothing about speculation. I have absolutely no clue where you are even getting that from. Purely based on the fact that supposedly Atlus has come out and said no more reprints. I am not the one saying this, but rather what I have read more than once or twice.

Personally, I think it SHOULD be reprinted but I don't think it will be.

Also, I don't really think it is fair to bring NIS games into it for the fact that a lot of the NIS games recently really have been more of the same. They aren't bad games at all (in my opinion), but rather the same thing seemingly over and over again.

Atlus has at least kept it interesting and trying to release a lot of different games etc.

[heybtbm]

Persona 3 will not be reprinted simply for the fact that Persona 3: Fez Edition is coming out this year in the US. So says the rumor section in EGM last month. I'm betting it happens.

[raregamergirl]

What about Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga, and Magna Carta? Surely there is, and has been for a long time now, demand to sell MANY copies of Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. Will they be reprinted? Would also help sell future copies from those series as well so if you think they are going to reprint games, those are absolute gold.

[Sudo]

Persona 3 will not be reprinted simply for the fact that Persona 3: Fez Edition is coming out this year in the US. So says the rumor section in EGM last month. I'm betting it happens.

It's definitely happening. Several of the voice actors from the first game had Persona 3: FES in their resumes on their respective websites, but removed the entries mysteriously (most likely due to Atlus not wanting the game's release known yet).

[koster]

What about Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga, and Magna Carta? Surely there is, and has been for a long time now, demand to sell MANY copies of Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. Will they be reprinted? Would also help sell future copies from those series as well so if you think they are going to reprint games, those are absolute gold.
Demand for Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga may be there now, but Atlus probably overestimated projected sales of the games initially. Not too long ago, Atlus was giving away Nocturne soundtracks with orders from their online store; the DDS controller stickers were also available as freebies. As of last month, you could still purchase the DDS soundtrack/manual/case/deluxe packaging from Atlus (although it isn't listed on their store website).

[Bojay1997]

It sells for about $75 plus shipping on average, that is a solid $30 over retail after tax and shipping etc.

So, I am going on the fact that it has not yet been reprinted and people saying Atlus has said there will no more reprints. You are saying there will be a reprint then? I am basing it on what Atlus has said. Nothing about speculation. I have absolutely no clue where you are even getting that from. Purely based on the fact that supposedly Atlus has come out and said no more reprints. I am not the one saying this, but rather what I have read more than once or twice.

Personally, I think it SHOULD be reprinted but I don't think it will be.

Also, I don't really think it is fair to bring NIS games into it for the fact that a lot of the NIS games recently really have been more of the same. They aren't bad games at all (in my opinion), but rather the same thing seemingly over and over again.

Atlus has at least kept it interesting and trying to release a lot of different games etc.

You need to recheck Ebay. There are currently 35 brand new/factory sealed copies for sale and looking at the past two weeks of sales, it has averaged around $65 to $70 for a sealed copy including shipping. Above retail? Yes. Well above retail and worth buying up copies and reselling? Absolutely not. Atlus has reprinted several of their titles in the past and have never made any kind of official statement that a reprint of their games will not be done with the exception of the recent Growlanser game which has still not really sold out. The fact that they had to clarify that Growlanser would not be reprinted and haven't made similar statements about Persona 3 or any of their other recent titles is good support for the notion that they could do a reprint if they feel it's needed.

So, to get back to the original query in this thread, Atlus does in fact reprint their titles.

[heybtbm]

So, to get back to the original query in this thread, Atlus does in fact reprint their titles.

That should read title, not titles. They've only reprinted one game, Disgaea.

Printing some copies before release and some after release is not an official "reprint".

Stopping production entirely then restarting months later (based on new, unexpected demand) is a true "reprint".

[mailman187666]

after reading these posts I've thought of a couple things. Atlus strategy guides I'm talking about. Now are those LESS likely to have reprinted copies since its not made by atlus themselves? or do they release that many fewer strat guides then there are game releases? wouldn't it be wise of Atlus game collectors to grab the guides with the game just because there is probably a 1:3 ratio of guides to game prints? I would think if they stop the print on the guides but reprint the game itself, then having the guide with it should maintain some more of its original value.

[TonyTheTiger]

Even games from the biggest of publishers can sometimes shoot up in value. Look at Castlevania Chronicles on the PSX. Not only is it a Konami title but it's Castlevania. Not exactly obscure. But it was a budget title. I believe it was $19.99 when it came out. Now it goes for a pretty penny because I presume not too many were printed. I don't have to mention Final Fantasy VII or even FF Tactics. I don't think anyone here is saying that all Atlus titles are going to be worth money or none of them from this point on will be worth money. But in at least some ways, you have to be kinda lucky. You can only predict the future value of a game with so much accuracy. Lots of times that involves looking at games that became worth something and then comparing newer games that are similar to that older game. Be honest, how many people do you think look at every somewhat unique looking anime-RPG and think "Will that be the next Disgaea?" Obviously they all can't even if one or two will.

What I'm saying is that Atlus is going to send out initial printings that it thinks will strike a balance between demand and profitability. They don't want to shortchange themselves by only printing 10,000 copies when 100,000 people want the game but at the same time they don't want to print 100,000 when only 10,000 people will buy it. That's a good way of getting stuck with a lot of unsellable merchandise. Retailers will only order what they can move. Something like Disgaea may be the exception where they didn't expect it to earn such acclaim so they hurried out a second and third batch.

But here's the thing, Ar Tonelico is a good example. I'm sure NIS didn't print an absurd number of copies but the demand is probably not too great either. If you're going to do a reprint you don't just print an extra 2,000. That's where things seem to be at this point with a lot of games that are getting a very slight bump on Ebay. It's enough demand to bump the price but it's only marginally higher than the supply. This can swing one of two ways. Either demand dies down a bit and things sort of balance out (meaning the game just holds value rather than gains it) or through word of mouth people start to hear about this must-play game (doubtful as Ar Tonelico is not going to have broad appeal) and the price skyrockets.

[Bojay1997]

That should read title, not titles. They've only reprinted one game, Disgaea.

Printing some copies before release and some after release is not an official "reprint".

Stopping production entirely then restarting months later (based on new, unexpected demand) is a true "reprint".

Of course it's a reprint. The way pressing orders work in the games industry is that you must order a minimum amount (well, Nintendo doesn't require this, but the other two do) and it's all done in a single production run. You send some off to your distributor and either you as the publisher or the distributor agrees to warehouse the remainder to fill store re-orders. If the physical production line stops and then starts up again weeks or months later, it's a second printing or a "reprint" in the replication business. You have defined reprint in your own way, which is fine, but that's not how it's defined in the industry. Persona 2, Rhapsody and Cubivore as well as Disgaea have all been reprinted. The fact that Atlus gave GQD permission to do a reprint of those games is no different than Atlus doing the reprint themselves since Atlus provided the same art and code for the reprint and it just meant that GQD paid the replication fees and covered the minimum guarantee and Atlus received a licensing fee. So, once again, Atlus has and probably will continue to reprint their games either directly or through licensed third parties.

[heybtbm]

Persona 2, Rhapsody and Cubivore as well as Disgaea have all been reprinted. The fact that Atlus gave GQD permission to do a reprint of those games is no different than Atlus doing the reprint themselves since Atlus provided the same art and code for the reprint and it just meant that GQD paid the replication fees and covered the minimum guarantee and Atlus received a licensing fee. So, once again, Atlus has and probably will continue to reprint their games either directly or through licensed third parties.

My entire series of posts was to clarify that Nocturne was never reprinted. Disgaea (via Atlus themselves) and Persona 2, Rhapsody, and Cubivore (via GQD) were obviously reprinted. I've never disagreed. My post that you are quoting is discussing a specific PS2 reprint (SMT: Nocturne) that people keep claiming happened. Atlus said it didn't. End of story. There are two versions of the game. Maybe they were printed at the same time...who knows?

The whole thing is so silly. It's not even a big deal, I just get annoyed by incorrect information being spoken as fact...even when it's a minor issue such as this.

[TonyTheTiger]

How about this then:

What are the Atlus titles most likely to get reprints by either Atlus or GQD?

[Daria]

My entire series of posts was to clarify that Nocturne was never reprinted. Disgaea (via Atlus themselves) and Persona 2, Rhapsody, and Cubivore (via GQD) were obviously reprinted. I've never disagreed. My post that you are quoting is discussing a specific PS2 reprint (SMT: Nocturne) that people keep claiming happened. Atlus said it didn't. End of story. There are two versions of the game. Maybe they were printed at the same time...who knows?

The whole thing is so silly. It's not even a big deal, I just get annoyed by incorrect information being spoken as fact...even when it's a minor issue such as this.

Whatever. Atlus also claimed, at the time, that Persona 2 and Rhapsody weren't reprints and... well they obviously were. So yeah, I'm skeptical that they, or GQD didn't reprint Nocturne.

[Bojay1997]

Well, looks like the speculators lost again now that you will be able to buy Persona 3 and a whole other set of content for $30. I guess it's not technically a reprint, but a huge bargain and I'm glad that Atlus is providing this to all of us who actually play their games as opposed to just collecting them.

[heybtbm]

Persona 3 will not be reprinted simply for the fact that Persona 3: Fez Edition is coming out this year in the US. So says the rumor section in EGM last month. I'm betting it happens.

I told you I can predict the future.