I heard this at GS [Is there another industry crash on the horizon?]

[Fearless]

The employees were saying that after these consoles (360,ps3) that there will be another video game crash. They said its at a peek right now, only one way to go, back down. Think this is true?

[Matt-El]

Talking about Gamestop employees in such a way makes me sad. I'll pray for you, but I'm still sad.

[Fearless]

matt, its ok, its not sunday...relax, put the prayer beads away, get out your 360

[djbeatmongrel]

I used to be a Gamestop employee and i'll be honest, more than 70% of the storefront employee population is retarded. You sir have been led on a group of retards. Grab a helmet and get on the short bus. We are grabbing some ice cream in those little cups with the tongue depressers/spoons as soon as we are done our finger painting activities.

In all fairness with gaming being at an all time high why woul you think there'd be a crash outside of some huge economic depression or something?

[appaws]

No chance. The industry is too big now and the companies involved are giant multinationals instead of small startups. Plus gaming is established as a "real" thing in the minds of retailers in a way that it was not in the early 1980s. Back then, they thought of it as a short lived fad or toy, something like a Cabbage Patch Kid...not as an established form of media that makes more money than the movie industry.

I do however think that EB/GS (along with the rest of brick and mortar) will "crash" in the future because of digital distribution. I know that this is a sore spot especially for people here who tend to be collectors, but its true. The one hurdle the platform holders will have to get over is the distribution of hardware, because retailers will not want to give shelf-space to hardware if they can't make the larger payoff from software sales. The solution to this might be the platform-holders cutting big deals with cable companies to use their consoles as "set-top" boxes for TV and games.

I am talking about maybe 2 gens from now. I believe the next gen after this one will have a lot of DLC, but major releases will be on Blu-Ray and all of the platforms will be Blu-ray based. "Virtual" drives located on giant servers that stream content to your machine will be the advance of the following gen...so you won't actually be downloading anything, but rather when you buy a game you will simply be buying a license to play something that will then stream down to your machine.

[esquire]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who last night heard some GS employees saying that after these consoles there will be another video game crash. They said its at a peek right now, and there's only one way to go - back down. I guess it's pretty serious.

It calm the beef min.

[Mianrtcv]

Do I think it's true? In a word... No.

Games seem to have a broader appeal to multiple demographics.

Also, personal opinion... Games are an economical form of entertainment for the most part.
I'm too tired to elaborate.

[p_b]

Do you need to preorder it?

[MR.TI994A]

I better cancel my Edge card and Game Informer subscription then.

Then again, I would've simply said in response, "nae need t rub ur nipples about it calm the beef min."

[Vinnysdad]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A This topic.

[MR.TI994A]

Do you need to preorder it?

No but you may want to get "Game Guard" for it.

[ProgrammingAce]

Do you need to preorder it?

Wins.

[esquire]

I heard THIS (http://home.comcast.net/~dmarowske/waveringfart.mp3) at GS last night.

[Fearless]

Will sony beat microsoft to the next console? They have many researchers looking into just what needs to be inside the new consoles of the future...more features, like being able to interact with your house via computer system.

[Fuyukaze]

every new system brings about the great prophecy of damnation and destruction to gaming as we know it and after the first two years we normaly forget what we were talking about and move on to play what ever games we just bought.

dude, seriously. check their credintials. game store emps rarely have any real insider information on sales figures let alone the status of the industry as a whole. sure, sometimes they get something right but it's realy more blind luck guessing. you may as well be taking medical advice from someone who beat trauma center on hard or legal information from someone who played phoenix wright. or keep at it and give me a good laugh, sometimes your posts can make even me laugh and i've been accused on a number of times of being born without a sense of humor.

[G-Boobie]

Ignore anyone who works at retail level for Gamestop. Anything they say is probably suspect.

[xfrumx]

I heard last night at GameStop that they are making new and reprinting old dreamcast games becuase sega re-releasing the system.

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

As a serious reply, (because I can't think of any calm the beef min jokes), the only way I see any big problems is if they try to bring out the next generation too soon. With the high system prices now, there probably would not be too many people ready to jump ship to something newer.

JY

[jcalder8]

I don't think there is another crash on the way but I do think that the next generation of systems won't be as popular as this one. Just look at how many people have bought the Wii. The number of non-traditional gamers who picked it up won't be buying the next system. Really at this point I think the only place it can go is down.

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Holy Shit... this is so wierd Fearless- I was in K-Mart 2 days ago hanging around the electronics dept. and the employees there were talking about it too...!!

[xfrumx]

Holy Shit... this is so wierd Fearless- I was in K-Mart 2 days ago hanging around the electronics dept. and the employees there were talking about it too...!!

The kid working at K-Mart really did tell me Persona 3 was $60 cause it was the "limited edition version, with a artbook" I wish I made him scan it and didn't pass it up cause I can not find it anywhere now

[YoshiM]

This reminds me of the time that Sega announced that it was going to drop out of the hardware race and start making games for other systems. I talked to a buddy of mine about that while in a Funcoland. A clerk heard me and said "Naw, that ain't happening".

"Yes it is".

"No way!" Looking all serious he glared at me and asked where I heard the info. I told him I just read it the day before on IGN's web site. "It was a press release," I said. Dude still didn't believe me.

So do they have their finger on the pulse of gamedom? Usually only in their dreams. There are a few that know there stuff but in my experience not many.

[walrusmonger]

the only way the industry will crash is if the government starts to really crack down on content, and 8 to 15 year old kids are unable to purchase m rated games. now the kid can go with their parents and get it, at worse they'll have to whine and complain that they're "mature" enough, but if they make them harder to get, parents could very well think twice about buying them.

this could cause a big shift of what's allowed to be produced, reduce sales, close companies, and create a giant increase in value of older games. a new 2nd hand market will emerge, one that is even more valuable than the new market.

of course i have no idea what i'm talking about, so just ignore me. calm the beef min! :)

[smork]

I heard last night at GameStop that they are making new and reprinting old dreamcast games becuase sega re-releasing the system.

Quit spreading good rumors!!!!!

[Icarus Moonsight]

I think it's wishful thinking on their part. If the industry busts again they have an excuse to be unemployed and just veg out or maybe even find a better job, in the case of the most industrious of GS associates.

[UK Collector]

Lets face it, the last crash last time was brought about by poor management and advertising, for example the pile of ET's in the desert. These companies had come about from peoples garages, and so the people running them didnt know how to scale up the business in a way that was manageable. The only way we would have another crash is if the big 3 of today were to mess up in some way, perhaps a lot of consoles would break, or they would release music games without stereo sound, or releasing pointless add-on drives, or no hard drives for their consoles. And THAT would never happen..........

[noname11]

wow, so everyone thinks the industry is invincible ?


I think that the recent economic trouble in the US will affect it a bit. I'm amazed it hasnt put a dent on the industry yet, seeing as how entertainment is usually the first thing to get cut in tougher times. However, I do believe certain "must have" games will still sell high numbers.

Maybe the "crash"/ crappy economy will just cut out the shovelware.

[InsaneDavid]

Will sony beat microsoft to the next console? They have many researchers looking into just what needs to be inside the new consoles of the future...more features, like being able to interact with your house via computer system.

Who's out first no longer matters. Microsoft rushed out the 360 and look at all the design level flaws with the architecture and the problems that it brought directly to the consumer (who are supposed to remain oblivious to any problems in the design and production phase). Of course the talk of a system being out first to steal market share will continue but at this point I don't think it'll be anywhere as big a factor. People that got burned with two, three, four bad XBox360's will remember that next time they go to buy a video game console. Hell, they're remembering it right now and starting to say "enough" and go with Nintendo and Sony.


These companies had come about from peoples garages, and so the people running them didnt know how to scale up the business in a way that was manageable.

It wasn't the people in the garages that screwed the industry up in the early 1980's, it was the people that took control of those companies that sprung up out of people's garages.


I think that the recent economic trouble in the US will affect it a bit. I'm amazed it hasnt put a dent on the industry yet, seeing as how entertainment is usually the first thing to get cut in tougher times. However, I do believe certain "must have" games will still sell high numbers.

The video game industry is a global market now, it's not going anywhere. Well, that's unless EA tries to buy the entire industry but... oh shit... I've jinxed it.

Almost every time I read a topic in Modern Gaming it makes me realize why I usually don't come to this side of the fourms.

[Push Upstairs]

I didn't know there were still people who bought the BS spread at Gamestop stores.

[Sothy]

I was at Gamestop and The employees told me that the Monetary value of the dollar will be worthless and onlly Cow skins will be used to barter with. Also roaming bands of mrauders will stalk the land murdering and raping in search of cow skins. Also I should preorder Halo 5 now or I wont be able to get it.

[Neil Koch]

wow, so everyone thinks the industry is invincible ?


I think that the recent economic trouble in the US will affect it a bit. I'm amazed it hasnt put a dent on the industry yet, seeing as how entertainment is usually the first thing to get cut in tougher times. However, I do believe certain "must have" games will still sell high numbers.

Maybe the "crash"/ crappy economy will just cut out the shovelware.

Well, as was pointed out elsewhere in this thread, gaming can be a very economical hobby. Think about it - going to a movie can run you over $20 nowadays once you figure in snacks and parking. Going to a concert/play can easily be $100 or more. That same amount of money can buy you multiple games.

Also, the people that buy games are for the most part the ones with disposable income to begin with, so any economic downturn isn't going to affect them as much.

[Richter Belmount]

I was at Gamestop and The employees told me that the Monetary value of the dollar will be worthless and onlly Cow skins will be used to barter with. Also roaming bands of mrauders will stalk the land murdering and raping in search of cow skins. Also I should preorder Halo 5 now or I wont be able to get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDM6mhl3crk

[Rob2600]

the next generation of systems won't be as popular as this one. Just look at how many people have bought the Wii. The number of non-traditional gamers who picked it up won't be buying the next system.

They won't? Look at how popular the original iPod was...and that cost over $300, which is more than the price of a Wii. Within the next three years, those same people bought iPod Micros, Nanos, and Videos, also for $300. Now, those same people are buying iPod Touches. The price? $300.

Those people aren't "hard core" music enthusiasts or audiophiles. They're just regular people and they're willing to spend $300 on upgraded products every few years...as long as the product is marketed correctly and is "cool."

[Trebuken]

I hope this happens. I have a large back log of games to catch up on...

[jcalder8]

They won't? Look at how popular the original iPod was...and that cost over $300, which is more than the price of a Wii. Within the next three years, those same people bought iPod Micros, Nanos, and Videos, also for $300. Now, those same people are buying iPod Touches. The price? $300.

Those people aren't "hard core" music enthusiasts or audiophiles. They're just regular people and they're willing to spend $300 on upgraded products every few years...as long as the product is marketed correctly and is "cool."
I never said that the price would deter them I said that not as many non-gamers would buy a system.

The I-pod is an easy sell next to a game system. For one you can use the I-pod anywhere, in the car, office... Also you can put any song you want on it. Grandma can put all her favorites on there. Also the I-pods break, if you look around you can find many complaints about the I-pod dieing shortly after the warranty runs out.

With a game system you have to want the games that are out. You can't play any game you want on them. No way is a Wii going to break anytime soon, Nintendo builds their machines too well for that. Look at how many stores there have been about old folks homes buying a Wii for people to play bowling or parents going over to their son's place and loving Wii-sports so they go out and buy one. None of these people are going to give two shits about 90% of the games out there for the Wii and 99% won't want/need the next generation of games system since their Wii still works and they don't play it that much anyways.

[xfrumx]

I think that the recent economic trouble in the US will affect it a bit. I'm amazed it hasnt put a dent on the industry yet, seeing as how entertainment is usually the first thing to get cut in tougher times. However, I do believe certain "must have" games will still sell high numbers.

Maybe the "crash"/ crappy economy will just cut out the shovelware.

People buy entertainment over food and bills these days! it = lame

[Overbite]

I didn't know there were still people who bought the BS spread at Gamestop stores.

they told me halo 4 was coming out for ps3 because bungie was no longer part of microsoft

[Push Upstairs]

That info is 150% true.

Also, Mario and Master Chief are in a game together.

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

I was at Gamestop and The employees told me that the Monetary value of the dollar will be worthless and onlly Cow skins will be used to barter with. Also roaming bands of mrauders will stalk the land murdering and raping in search of cow skins. Also I should preorder Halo 5 now or I wont be able to get it.
They told you this too? Must be true.

I had to kill and skin two cows just to pre-order Halo 5. But the good news is, now I can has cheeseburger.

[bangtango]

The employees were saying that after these consoles (360,ps3) that there will be another video game crash. They said its at a peek right now, only one way to go, back down. Think this is true?

Nope.

Just in case you were wondering, when those same GS employees told you they get laid by a different girl every night, that wasn't true either.

[Push Upstairs]

Well, a different girl each night *is* just an internet search away...

[mnbren05]

The industry will not crash. The closest thing that could happen is if in the distant future one of the big 3 is forced out by a new system/company. More likely, publishers/game studios will fold as they release complete shit titles and dig themselves into holes.

In other words. On this version of the Oregon Trail, sponsored by the good folks at Game Stop, you have died of “It calm the beef min”, aka dysentery.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

LOL the "crash" only lasted, what, 2, maybe 3 years TOPS anyway.

Not that we're anywhere close to another - but even IF it did, enthusiasts like us would have PLENTY to do with our collecting habits, conventions, meetings, existing online games, portables, and internet forums to keep us busy until the next hypothetical "crash" let to the next industry "re-birth".

[Oobgarm]

I'd suspect that the creditability of these GS employees is on the same level of the half-retarded kid that followed me around Best Buy yesterday, babbling about how the "PS3 that Wal-Mart sells has rumble in it" and how "I played it and I know" and "Everyone is going to buy MGS4gunsofthepatriotswhenitcomesoutohmygodilovetha tgameitsmyfavoriteeventhoughitsnotoutyet"

Or something to that effect. So no crash, no worries.

The first crash was because there were too many companies trying to cash in quick, and the industry outgrew itself too quickly. Now, small companies that release crap are going to get driven out of business or gobbled up by a larger conglomerate.

[PapaStu]

If the game industry crashes we've got bigger issues, like the entire economy is going thermonuclear. We won't give 2 shits about it going down if thats the case.

[mailman187666]

I was at a Best Buy a little after x-mas this year and was talking to one of my friends about how I felt that the PS3 didn't have any major titles this x-mas (unless you include Drake's Fortune and whatnot) so the kid comes over and says "you know why that is?" and starts to talk about how Sony hasn't put money into research a development in thier software and how PS3 is already dead. He then tried selling us on a 360. My friend was like "wow I can't believe all that stuff he told us." I then had to tell him he probably told us that stuff because he has a 360 and is anti sony. They will sometimes make shit up or come up with figures that aren't quite true. If that shit was true about PS3, I'm sure we would have all heard about it by now. You always gotta take what some (not all) retail employees tell you with a grain of salt because they really don't always know what they are talking about. I've also heard PSP is dead already....uhhhh yeah ok. If whenever you hear interesting "facts" at a retail store, do the extra research about said subject online. A lot of times you may find out that everything was just a bunch of smoke being blown up your ass.

[Push Upstairs]

Research = your best friend.

[Richter Belmount]

I heard THIS (http://home.comcast.net/~dmarowske/waveringfart.mp3) at GS last night.

I heard that to I guess its true if its spreading around the industry

[mnbren05]

Oh I forgot if this is true, I'll give you $40 for your Wii, PS3, and or Xbox 360. Plus I'll throw in an extra five bucks for all of your games :angel:

[kaedesdisciple]

Oh I forgot if this is true, I'll give you $40 for your Wii, PS3, and or Xbox 360. Plus I'll throw in an extra five bucks for all of your games :angel:

You probably wouldn't get a much better deal at EB/GS, would you?

[16-bit]

The employees were saying that after these consoles (360,ps3) that there will be another video game crash. They said its at a peek right now, only one way to go, back down. Think this is true?

From a retailer's perspective, yes. Nearly everything will be download and middleman (like GS) will be cutout

[xfrumx]

From a retailer's perspective, yes. Nearly everything will be download and middleman (like GS) will be cutout

I think we have 1 more generation after this to buy hard copies(many places out here still dont even have high speed), after that who knows.

[josekortez]

I'm surprised this thread has lasted this long.