The Official Angry Video Game Nerd Discussion Thread

[Edmond Dantes]

Weird as this may sound, I honestly wish the Nerd would stop doing NES games. Especially LJN games. I tried to watch the Bill and Ted review but I couldn't enjoy it because it seemed like so much beating of the proverbial dead horse. I'm tired of it. I wanna hear about bad 16-Bit or bad 32-Bit games now. Quit with the NES games.

[bigbacon]

I tried to watch the AVGN roast and OMG, it was terrible. I got maybe 10 minutes. Just so bleh.....everyone trying to hard, even the initial intro was bad

[Edmond Dantes]

What the hell is a "roast" anyway?

[Tupin]

What the hell is a "roast" anyway?
Seriously?

It's when people in the entertainment industry throw a party in honor of one of their coworkers and spend the entire night ragging on them in good fun. They air them on TV all the time.

[Embalming Your Nipples]

I tried to watch the AVGN roast and OMG, it was terrible. I got maybe 10 minutes. Just so bleh.....everyone trying to hard, even the initial intro was bad

It's funny you would bring this up, as I just tried to watch it 2 days ago and I couldn't get through it either. TBH I had much higher hopes for Keith Apicary...

[Greg2600]

Can't anyone just comment on his new stuff? Although Edmond did mention Bill and Ted, which I thought was a good review, filled me in on the game, and all it's problems.

[bigbacon]

what new stuff? all they do is mike and james play and Mike does his random junk.

[Alpha2099]

Can't anyone just comment on his new stuff? Although Edmond did mention Bill and Ted, which I thought was a good review, filled me in on the game, and all it's problems.
There isn't much to say about his new stuff. For one thing, since he has to devote most of his time to the movie, the video releases are sporadic which means they get forgotten about pretty quickly. I'm still digging his videos, which is a lot more than I can say for his counterpart, the Nostalgia Critic (whose videos I quit watching about 3-4 years ago). Yeah, overall they may not be as good as his earlier works, but they're still good in their own right. It's like watching the whole series of Star Trek TNG. Seasons 6 and 7 were good, but maybe not as good as Seasons 3 and 4.

I've been hanging back a lot on this thread because I didn't really know what to say, but it's finally gotten tiresome reading all the comments saying he's stale and the videos aren't that good and blah blah blah.

[JSoup]

Can't anyone just comment on his new stuff?

He's only put out, what, four or five videos in the last year or two? They've all been commented on, what more do you want?

[Edmond Dantes]

Seriously?

It's when people in the entertainment industry throw a party in honor of one of their coworkers and spend the entire night ragging on them in good fun. They air them on TV all the time.

I don't watch TV, ergo why I didn't know the term.

I'm still looking forward to the AVGN movie. I just wish his videos felt less like filler... and had more interesting subject matter.

The Nostalgia Critic I only watch if he reviews something I'm interested in (usually a movie I remember seeing previews for but never got to actually see). Sometimes though he gets on my nerves... any time he touches an eighties cartoon, for example, he sounds like a typical internet guy who thinks the eighties was a trash decade and the nineties was when cartoons got good.

Honestly though, not a huge fan of TGWTG reviewers in general. Most of them straight-up suck (why does Linkara have a fanbase?)

[JSoup]

any time he touches an eighties cartoon, for example, he sounds like a typical internet guy who thinks the eighties was a trash decade and the nineties was when cartoons got good.

You have to remember that while his joke is to tell jokes (self admitted), he still needs present an opinion that generally correct or otherwise hard to argue against.

To put it another way, u c wut i ded thar?

[Edmond Dantes]

You have to remember that while his joke is to tell jokes (self admitted), he still needs present an opinion that generally correct or otherwise hard to argue against.

To put it another way, u c wut i ded thar?

Yeah I think i c wut u ded, but I find that particular concept of US animation "advancing" from the eighties to the nineties to be... basically an internet myth, much like "everyone hated Scrappy Doo," that seems to have more backing than it really does because we're constantly exposed to the vocal minority that says it (because we're using the same tools of communication).

Anyway, anytime the argument stops being subjective and tries to introduce real facts to the table, it turns out it has no real backing... and usually it tends to come down to some lame idea that being based on toys is somehow inherently bad (unless its MLP obviously) but being based on a comic book, video game, movie or more recent toy is okay. In other words, another case of nerds being hypocritical, ill-researched, and not knowing what they're talking about.

[PizzaKat]

There isn't much to say about his new stuff. For one thing, since he has to devote most of his time to the movie, the video releases are sporadic which means they get forgotten about pretty quickly. I'm still digging his videos, which is a lot more than I can say for his counterpart, the Nostalgia Critic (whose videos I quit watching about 3-4 years ago). Yeah, overall they may not be as good as his earlier works, but they're still good in their own right. It's like watching the whole series of Star Trek TNG. Seasons 6 and 7 were good, but maybe not as good as Seasons 3 and 4.

I've been hanging back a lot on this thread because I didn't really know what to say, but it's finally gotten tiresome reading all the comments saying he's stale and the videos aren't that good and blah blah blah.

Well it is their opinion. His videos aren't as entertaining as before. Of course thats just me. Its good that your still getting a kick out of his new vids.

[JSoup]

Yeah I think i c wut u ded, but I find that particular concept of US animation "advancing" from the eighties to the nineties to be... basically an internet myth, much like "everyone hated Scrappy Doo," that seems to have more backing than it really does because we're constantly exposed to the vocal minority that says it (because we're using the same tools of communication).

Anyway, anytime the argument stops being subjective and tries to introduce real facts to the table, it turns out it has no real backing... and usually it tends to come down to some lame idea that being based on toys is somehow inherently bad (unless its MLP obviously) but being based on a comic book, video game, movie or more recent toy is okay. In other words, another case of nerds being hypocritical, ill-researched, and not knowing what they're talking about.

The only thing I really see changing from one generation of cartoons to the next is the way the story is being told and the way the viewer is being addressed. I can only speak from my perspective here, but what I really hated about cartoons growing up is the way many of them treated me like I was too stupid to understand the greater story concept of continuity or basic things like cause and effect. Sure, I was between 3 and 6, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to notice when the hero gets some power or learns some lesson, only for it to never come up again or otherwise be significant to his/her story beyond the 22 minutes it was shown in. I also noticed that many of the 80s and older cartoons did this a lot. A number of 90s cartoons had a much stronger sense of continuity and treated me like I was smart enough to understand basic story flow, right up to Batman: The Animated Series, which was the big game changer in my mind. I'm not claiming that all 90s cartoons did this, the majority didn't and were just as toy driven as the previous decade, I just recall the beginning of change (I haven't watched many modern 2000s cartoons, so I'm not sure that this change was followed up on, but, as my grandfather once said, I'm not going to hold my hand on my butt waiting, it might grow there).

At some point within the 90s, I discovered Robotek and hardly ever looked back.

[sfchakan]

It's always been my opinion that Duck Tales jump started a renaissance of slightly higher quality Western cartoons, leading into the 90s. There was a few really nice mid to late 80s cartoons as well, but following Duck Tales, things just seemed to blow up for a while.

Batman: TAS was definitely among the best.




To provide something on topic: Man, them nerd videos are getting spaced out. We get a Ton of Mike solo or James and Mike play videos in between. I know right now, he's probably ramping up for Monster Madness, which I've always enjoyed.

[JSoup]

For whatever reason, I recall not being that interested in Duck Tales when it was new or most of the Disney cartoons at the time. I think it might have been me making a blanket assumption that they were all like everything before them and never bothered to confirm if that was true or not. I did start watching Duck Tales (and other, similar cartoons) at some point, though.

[SparTonberry]

I'm guessing after he played a game of King of the Monsters 2 people might be spamming James with their picks for crappy NeoGeo games to play?

[JakeM]

I'm guessing after he played a game of King of the Monsters 2 people might be spamming James with their picks for crappy NeoGeo games to play?

The thing is that, and he said this, theres no really bad games on the system. I mean, hed have to get EXTREMELY technical on what fighting games arent as good as others, but hes a nerd, he doesnt play fighting games. Only stuff I think he can do is make fun of the horrible engrish of the Magician Lord villain, NEO GEO CD horrible load times, and just The Nerd losing horribly to every single end boss in a fighting game on the system. Holy crap, that last one may be a fun episode to do :D

[Crocket]

As far as bad Neo Geo games, I personally wasn't a fan of Burning Fight. I don't think that would sustain a whole episode, at best it has a chance of getting a brief mention in a possible Neo Geo episode.

[Greg2600]

Nerd would physically need the game he's reviewing, he doesn't emulate. Neo Geo/AES not cheap.

[JakeM]

Now I see the actual video wasnt posted here. He shows he at least has KOF 94, so he could do a small video of him running into Chizuru, thatd be some funny shit. Plus he has enough money to get more NEO GEO games, hell he could even do like CGR does and accept someone elses copies to use for the episode.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVCITNqd3Vo

[sfchakan]

Now I see the actual video wasnt posted here. He shows he at least has KOF 94, so he could do a small video of him running into Chizuru, thatd be some funny shit. Plus he has enough money to get more NEO GEO games, hell he could even do like CGR does and accept someone elses copies to use for the episode

He was likely getting game donations long before Mark ever did. I know he's mentioned getting NES game donations at least in the past, but I'd imagine he's received more.

...but, yeah, he should have more than enough cash flow from the movie fundraiser and various ad revenue to drop $250, or whatever Neo Geo games average out to be, on a video easily.

[Kitsune Sniper]

The thing is that, and he said this, theres no really bad games on the system.

No really bad games on the system?

Really? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=225ClPi7g3o)

REALLY?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhuFChvqd0)

Disclaimer: I love Legend of Success Joe, but that's the king of shit games. Poor design and poor control can't save a game based on such an awesome manga / anime.

[JakeM]

No really bad games on the system?

Really? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=225ClPi7g3o)

REALLY?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhuFChvqd0)

Disclaimer: I love Legend of Success Joe, but that's the king of shit games. Poor design and poor control can't save a game based on such an awesome manga / anime.
Havent played it. :s

[Greg2600]

You're telling a guy who barely has enough money to complete his movie, and a little baby, to go out and spend $250 on an obscure Neo Geo game?

[Alpha2099]

If we could shift gears briefly...has anyone pre-ordered the AVGN game coming out on Steam in September? I saw the trailer and jumped on it right away.

[sfchakan]

You're telling a guy who barely has enough money to complete his movie, and a little baby, to go out and spend $250 on an obscure Neo Geo game?

It's not really his audience's fault he miss-spent their donation monies and all of his ad revenue and merchandise sales. I'm 100% certain everyone who donated to the movie would have been alright with him using the surplus to fund more AVGN videos.

The most amusing part is that I think most would agree that some of his best work was likely made with practically no budget or special effects. Videos like the first Crazy Castle video just took effort and time, something he doesn't seem to invest as much of in most Nerd movies any more.

[Gameguy]

You're telling a guy who barely has enough money to complete his movie, and a little baby, to go out and spend $250 on an obscure Neo Geo game?
If the guy can afford to have a video rental store in his basement, a massive collection of video games spanning across dozens of systems, a collection of various video formats including actual film reels, and a large collection of board games, he could probably afford a Neo Geo system if he really wanted to.

[Greg2600]

Honestly, he should have just done a Nerd episode on the Neo Geo series of products, like he did the 5200 and Colecovision. Sure he was somewhat inaccurate and wildly satirical, but it was funny. The size, weight, and the cost of the Neo Geo warrants satire. Could even get into the lackluster Pocket hand helds.

Alpha2099, I may order his game, although I don't use Steam.

[JSoup]

You're telling a guy who barely has enough money to complete his movie, and a little baby, to go out and spend $250 on an obscure Neo Geo game?

I'm under the impression (IE: He's stated as much on the GameTrailers forums a few years ago) that a large portion of his collection was donated to him by other collectors, on the promise that everything will get a video someday.

And what's this about misusing funds? Last I saw of the movie was when the trailer was new.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Honestly, he should have just done a Nerd episode on the Neo Geo series of products, like he did the 5200 and Colecovision. Sure he was somewhat inaccurate and wildly satirical, but it was funny. The size, weight, and the cost of the Neo Geo warrants satire. Could even get into the lackluster Pocket hand helds.

Alpha2099, I may order his game, although I don't use Steam.

Has he ever made any videos of items that he doesn't physically own - games or films? Hell, even that King of the Monsters 2 video doesn't show any footage from games he doesn't own carts of. It's all the same six or seven games.

I mean, yes, he could just use emulated versions or other console ports... but I don't recall him ever using emulation for his game reviews. He may have but I don't remember if he ever did.

[Gameguy]

Has he ever made any videos of items that he doesn't physically own - games or films?
Didn't he review the Nintendo World Championships 1990 carts? He borrowed the carts from that Pat guy.

[bigbacon]

Didn't he review the Nintendo World Championships 1990 carts? He borrowed the carts from that Pat guy.

I think used a repo cart. For some reaosn I remember that being said at the end of it

[Gameguy]

I think used a repo cart. For some reaosn I remember that being said at the end of it
They smashed the games at the end of the review, those were repros. I'm pretty sure they actually featured the real games too, somewhere they pictured the real carts next to the repros. Unless I'm mistaken about it for some reason.

[SparTonberry]

He had a repro of NWC that he may or may not have actually gotten in an ebay lot.
Pat brought his NWCs with him when he filmed the video with the Nerd.
He actually smashed a Zelda and a Top Gun with fake labels. He later made a behind the scenes video where they showed him double checking the real NWCs weren't the copies he was about to smash.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Even if it's a borrowed copy, it's still a -physical- copy. Not emulation. I should have worded my post better, apologies.

[Edmond Dantes]

The only thing I really see changing from one generation of cartoons to the next is the way the story is being told and the way the viewer is being addressed. I can only speak from my perspective here, but what I really hated about cartoons growing up is the way many of them treated me like I was too stupid to understand the greater story concept of continuity or basic things like cause and effect. Sure, I was between 3 and 6, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to notice when the hero gets some power or learns some lesson, only for it to never come up again or otherwise be significant to his/her story beyond the 22 minutes it was shown in.

Just wanted to mention here, the reason that happened was due to the nature of the beast--most 80s toons were sold directly into syndication, which meant there was no guarantee they would be shown in any sort of order (I've heard Robotech got confusing for this very reason), so writers generally wanted each episode to be a possible "jumping on point."

That said, its not like there wasn't any continuity at all in those days. Thundercats and Transformers were both very good about it, and even He-Man and She-Ra had a few episodes that were direct sequels to other episodes.

I honestly don't see how Ducktales or Batman were any better in this regard. Actually, that was one thing that annoyed me about Batman--sometimes a villain's entire character or motivation would change between their introduction, and their return appearance. Mad Hatter is a notable example.


Now I see the actual video wasnt posted here. He shows he at least has KOF 94, so he could do a small video of him running into Chizuru, thatd be some funny shit.

Chizuru wasn't in KOF '94. She first appears in '96.

[sfchakan]

And what's this about misusing funds? Last I saw of the movie was when the trailer was new.

I was saying that if he is that strapped for cash, then it's his own damn fault. If he needs more, then he needs to take care of it himself and honor his promises. This might mean creating more quality content and merchandise for his fans to enjoy. This might also mean working a real job again... Like a lot of other creative types who have to shelter and feed their families while working on projects. We didn't impregnate his wife now, did we? Well, maybe Stu did, I don't know. He keeps looking about with crazy eyes whenever he comes in the room...

He's had a metric shit ton of support financially from his fan base. He earns money from video plays on multiple services, merchandise sales, and was the recipient of more money than he originally asked for for his movie. This is all stuff that's obvious to anyone who looks at his projects and does not count any other dealings he might have that are not public. I'm not insinuating anything nefarious here, I'm just saying not everything is put out there in the open.

He ended up raising $325,327 from the kickstarter when he originally asked for $75,000. Later, he stated that he was unaware of the costs of shooting a movie... despite having studied and participating in "movie making" over half of his life in some fashion. Things like permits, taxes, and other shooting costs should not be that surprising to people who have done this thing before or read a good bit about it. You think someone who was serious about such a thing would have called each city or location to add these exact costs to their plan... if you have one... which might be a good idea when you ask for $75,000 from your fans! FFS!

This might sound like I'm bashing him a bit, and I am. I still like the majority of his work, from most of the AVGN stuff to Monster Madness and other things he does, though. I hope the movie turns out well (whenever it's released) and I may or may not buy it. However, anyone saying "oh, poor James" definitely needs to think about it a bit more.

[Greg2600]

He didn't misuse the funds, he didn't have a Hollywood movie background, and was unprepared for how much everything costs out there. In hindsight, he would have been better off filming in cities like San Francisco or Chicago or New York, where it's actually far cheaper. He admitted to this, but he also wanted/needed particular location shoots for the feel, such as the famous Vasquez rocks.

[rkotm]

I can't wait for the AVGN game (PC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns4v2aZJ-Ic
I think September 5th???

[Alpha2099]

I can't wait for the AVGN game (PC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns4v2aZJ-Ic
I think September 5th???
September 5th is the deadline to pre-order and have a chance to be in the game as an NPC. They have not officially announced a release date yet, but they will at an upcoming convention -- I think it's PAX. Right now it's just "sometime in September". I already pre-ordered.

[JakeM]

He didn't misuse the funds, he didn't have a Hollywood movie background, and was unprepared for how much everything costs out there. In hindsight, he would have been better off filming in cities like San Francisco or Chicago or New York, where it's actually far cheaper. He admitted to this, but he also wanted/needed particular location shoots for the feel, such as the famous Vasquez rocks.

Yes, and to add to this, sfchakan, indy film making is way way way harder than people think. Most small budget looking movies without any CGI in them can easily cost a million dollars. Theres all kinds of small things you have to deal with , hes done small short projects his whole life, and its nothing compared to doing a full length film with a full cast and multiple locations. Even if he gets the film done, he may not make all the money back. Its a great sign he has been talking to Lloyd Kaufman and done some stuff with him, hes probably going to release it through Troma. I know that $350,000 is a lot of money, but its almost jack shit in the film world when you want to release your film world wide and take it to a lot of good film fests.

[sfchakan]

You guys are ignoring the fact that film making is something he's been into for... the majority of his life. He should have been well aware of all of this stuff from books, interviews, documentaries and extras. I know I am and I've never made any sort of movie, short or long form!

Researching all the costs for a project you're going to ask other people to fund just seems like a no-brainer!

You can say that he was ignorant of this stuff, but I can't buy it. From my point of view, he was being irresponsible if the actual costs exceeded his budget. Either the plan needed more research or he misused the money. It's that simple. It is his fault and no one else.

[JSoup]

(I've heard Robotech got confusing for this very reason)

I don't recall it being particularly confusing on that point, Cartoon Network made sure to point out before the start of each episode that the episode number was important (a trend carried over to Toonami and Adult Swim later). That said, they apparently did do a minor level of episode skipping and splicing, thinking that a drama wouldn't sell as well as a another space faring action adventure. So a few of the more wordy episodes (particularly early on in the Macross saga) got cut down. I only recently learned that the first episode in the series was never shown on TV, they skipped straight to episode two to get right to the action.

[JakeM]

I know I am and I've never made any sort of movie, short or long form!

Youre kinda only blaming him having human error issues, when it can be him and a whole lot of other people messing stuff up. If youve never been apart of a film project, and youre not involved with his project and seeing where mistakes are being made, then you shouldnt be so rough on him. I mean, hes gone from only working with friends on projects on weekends, to having to work with a ton of behind scenes workers and other people. You should probably be talking to him about stuff instead of us if youre so mad.

[Gameguy]

Even if it's a borrowed copy, it's still a -physical- copy. Not emulation. I should have worded my post better, apologies.
He could still borrow an AES from someone for a review, if he wanted to do it. I would think it's much harder to borrow actual Nintendo World Championships carts yet he was able to pull that off. There's so many things to review he probably just didn't get around to it.


You guys are ignoring the fact that film making is something he's been into for... the majority of his life. He should have been well aware of all of this stuff from books, interviews, documentaries and extras. I know I am and I've never made any sort of movie, short or long form!
Even professional filmakers can go overbudget or have their films ruined before completion, just look up Lost in La Mancha.

[InsaneDavid]

He ended up raising $325,327 from the kickstarter when he originally asked for $75,000. Later, he stated that he was unaware of the costs of shooting a movie... despite having studied and participating in "movie making" over half of his life in some fashion. Things like permits, taxes, and other shooting costs should not be that surprising to people who have done this thing before or read a good bit about it. You think someone who was serious about such a thing would have called each city or location to add these exact costs to their plan... if you have one... which might be a good idea when you ask for $75,000 from your fans! FFS!

The tall and short of all this is the syndrome of people who live outside of California not realizing how expensive it is to do things in California. Plain and simple.

Surprised he just didn't shoot most of it in Sunnyvale or the surrounding areas, since it's supposed to be based around an Atari game and all and would have been far cheaper than shooting in Southern California. Still expensive, don't get me wrong, but nowhere as bad.

[sfchakan]

Youre kinda only blaming him having human error issues, when it can be him and a whole lot of other people messing stuff up. If youve never been apart of a film project, and youre not involved with his project and seeing where mistakes are being made, then you shouldnt be so rough on him. I mean, hes gone from only working with friends on projects on weekends, to having to work with a ton of behind scenes workers and other people. You should probably be talking to him about stuff instead of us if youre so mad.

I'm not really mad, I was just responding to the "oh poor James" sentiment about him supposedly being cash-strapped.

[Greg2600]

The tall and short of all this is the syndrome of people who live outside of California not realizing how expensive it is to do things in California. Plain and simple.

Surprised he just didn't shoot most of it in Sunnyvale or the surrounding areas, since it's supposed to be based around an Atari game and all and would have been far cheaper than shooting in Southern California. Still expensive, don't get me wrong, but nowhere as bad.

David, I've spoken in the past to a few filmmakers based in San Fran, and as I said, they rave about the ease and in-expense of shooting up there. Particularly for smaller projects. I don't think he could have done some of those location-based stunt scenes though as cheaply. Oh well.

[Jorpho]

Do you figure it's easy to do filming at the Vasquez rocks?

[JSoup]

Do you figure it's easy to do filming at the Vasquez rocks?

Being that a number of the productions just have them looming in the background (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_productions_using_the_Vasquez_Rocks_as_a_f ilming_location), yes, I do.

[Coptur]

There's a new Angry Video Game Nerd episode out. This one is about Tiger Electronic handhelds.

http://cinemassacre.com/2013/09/06/avgn-tiger-electronic/

[Alpha2099]

That was pretty funny. I like it when he does more academic, historical-type videos. I didn't own any of the Tiger games he mentioned, but I know I had some handheld games of that sort as a kid.

[bigbacon]

I actually liked this.

I can't believe that R-zone thing. to go from game.com, which actually seemed like a legit portal system back to the LCD games is just weird.

though come on,..... everybody have tiger electronic games as a kid and we all loved them.

[JakeM]

When I was a kid I got a Castlevania Tiger game, and my grandma was disgusted you collect hearts in the game from what the back packaging said, so she took me back to the store to return it.

[sparf]

I have a lot of nostalgia for those Tiger games. I had a few nondescript ones (baseball and pinball), and the Konami TMNT one. But I always want one.

This is going up there with my favorite AVGN episodes, right alongside Swordquest.

[Alpha2099]

Hopefully he'll put this video to Youtube like all his other ones. Whatever he has running on his site won't let me save the video.

[sparf]

Hopefully he'll put this video to Youtube like all his other ones. Whatever he has running on his site won't let me save the video.

I just buy the DVDs. Saves me time and supports an entertainer I enjoy. :) Then I rip them with Handbrake and boom.

But yeah, I don't think he'll stop putting the videos on Youtube after a while.

[Gameguy]

Hopefully he'll put this video to Youtube like all his other ones. Whatever he has running on his site won't let me save the video.
I can't even watch the video, none of the videos on his site are loading for me right now. I have no problems with other Youtube or Blip videos.

[Alpha2099]

I can't even watch the video, none of the videos on his site are loading for me right now. I have no problems with other Youtube or Blip videos.
This video seems to be using something called JW Player, which is flash-based. It also seems to be proprietary; their website will sell it to you for $49.95.

[Gameguy]

This video seems to be using something called JW Player, which is flash-based. It also seems to be proprietary; their website will sell it to you for $49.95.
I can still watch JW Player videos from other sites, just not from his site. Do his videos still work for anyone else?

This is the link I see when I right click the box where the video should be. It's just a blank white box that says "Loading Video".
http://player.screenwavemedia.com/play/player.php?id=Cinemassacre-52273484b87b2

[Alpha2099]

That's really weird. It works just fine for me. I clicked that link and the video came right up. How very strange.

[Greg2600]

Great episode by James, really funny. The Game Com and the R Zone are probably two of the shittiest games systems ever invented. I couldn't believe it when I first saw them back then.

I had many Tiger, Konami, Bandai, etc. LCD games, and most sucked for sure. I played them simply because they were portable, and though I still have a few, like James says, I cannot go back and play them. He did fail to mention that many of the smaller ones ran on watch batteries, which were a huge pain and expense back then to get as a kid.

PS: Eventually the videos go to YouTube.

[fairyland]

I dunno...he has a sweet collection of those tabletop arcade LEDs and they are just as limited. I currently own about 30 Tigers and 100 handhelds. I really love how they look and Tiger defines a certain period in gaming history much like how Coleco ruled before that with their various handhelds and then Nintendo with their Game and Watches. These things usually looks way better than they play but they are pretty fun to collect. I've always been razzed about collecting the Tigers, but I still buy them whenever I find them at garage sales.

[Jorpho]

I remember those things were hella expensive when they first came out, actually.

[bb_hood]

The Castlevania Simons quest game was the first video game I ever owned. I played it on the bus home from school all the time and i could beat it.

[leatherrebel5150]

I can still watch JW Player videos from other sites, just not from his site. Do his videos still work for anyone else?

This is the link I see when I right click the box where the video should be. It's just a blank white box that says "Loading Video".
http://player.screenwavemedia.com/play/player.php?id=Cinemassacre-52273484b87b2

Update your flash. I had the same problem this solved it.

[badinsults]

All of his videos, including this one, are on Youtube.

This one wasn't as imaginative as many of his other reviews, and I think it suggests that he is getting tired of the AVGN persona. This review was very informative, though. I never had heard of the R-Zone before.

[Alpha2099]

All of his videos, including this one, are on Youtube.

This one wasn't as imaginative as many of his other reviews, and I think it suggests that he is getting tired of the AVGN persona. This review was very informative, though. I never had heard of the R-Zone before.
Like I said, I kinda prefer the informative reviews. Like when he talked about the Atari 5200, the Virtual Boy, or even the various Pong Consoles. I like learning about the history of gaming.

[Greg2600]

I dunno...he has a sweet collection of those tabletop arcade LEDs and they are just as limited. I currently own about 30 Tigers and 100 handhelds. I really love how they look and Tiger defines a certain period in gaming history much like how Coleco ruled before that with their various handhelds and then Nintendo with their Game and Watches. These things usually looks way better than they play but they are pretty fun to collect. I've always been razzed about collecting the Tigers, but I still buy them whenever I find them at garage sales.

The table tops are more advanced than the Tiger LCD's. Plus they look a lot cooler. He didn't go after the Game & Watch though, his main issue was how Tiger sold LCD games that tried to do too much. Like I said, I still have several from the 80's that would be fun to play but I'm not bothering with watch batteries anymore. I used to play Tiger Football for hours and hours. Not to mention my favorite was this Head to Head talking baseball.

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Tiger/Tiger-H2HTalkingBaseball.jpg

What Tiger did in the 90's though was pretty absurd. Sonic, Street Fighter, Batman Returns??? They should have given up by then and moved to a newer technology.

BTW, James likely only had the original Super Screen version, but there were two subsequent R-Zone's. First was the R-Zone XPG (Xtreme Pocket Game) which used the same reflective mini-screen and red colors, but was entirely hand held. Still looked terrible. Last was the R-Zone Super Screen, which scrapped the red entirely, and was basically a Tiger LCD hand-held with a magnifying glass attached and used interchangeable carts. I had a magnifier/light for Tiger games, still do in fact!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/Rzonegameplay.JPG/220px-Rzonegameplay.JPG http://consolasportatiles.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/DSCI2580_600x4501-300x225.jpg

[SparTonberry]

I remember those things were hella expensive when they first came out, actually.

$20, I think. I remember it going as low as $10 when Target was clearing them.
I remember reading some article where they defended the price, saying it was cheaper than a Game Boy game (in the US, those were pretty much universally priced at $30) and didn't require a separate system. (of course, we know there's a bit of a quality difference. :P )

I'm sure the Street Fighter II portable was from 1992-1993, predating the Game Boy version (1995) as the first portable attempt at SF2.

[Gameguy]

Update your flash. I had the same problem this solved it.
I updated my Flash and cleared my temp files along with my cookies, it still won't load. Luckily I came across it on Youtube so I watched the full episode. I'll just assume that the videos on his site are now broken or incompatible with various browsers.

[Greg2600]

http://cinemassacre.com/2013/09/19/avgn-movie-update-september-2013/

First update in a while, though it's more of James testifying on the process.

[Coptur]

This is pretty funny. James and Mike go back and play Dr. Jeckll and mr hide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja6R9cN2Tzg

[Gameguy]

Just wondering, are his videos still viewable with Internet Explorer 8? I can't get them to load from his site, and now Spoony's videos aren't loading either. Going into properties it seems the videos are hosted through screenwavemedia.com so that's the common issue between them, the old Spoony videos on Blip still work fine, it's just these newest ones are the problem.

I'm wondering if it's my browser. Can anyone confirm if it's a problem with IE8? I don't like upgrading browsers unless I have to.