View Full Version : What system should I go for a complete collection on?
shadowforte
04-03-2008, 10:47 PM
Well, I am ready to start the long, hard road of trying to get a complete NTSC video game collection. This will be my first, and wanted to ask some questions:
What system do you think would be the most easy on three levels: Common Games, Number of games, Price of games.
I am thinking of 32X, because I heard it has a small amount of games (Like 100), and the only $$$ game I ever see is that Spider Man game.
thetoxicone
04-03-2008, 11:26 PM
I like the 32x idea as well as it then ties into both genesis and sega cd for following it up.
DefaultGen
04-03-2008, 11:29 PM
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cosmicpsycho
04-03-2008, 11:40 PM
I thought the 32x had only about 30 to 40 games? If I was to give the complete collection a try, I'd probably go for Genesis for 3 reasons.
1. Price
2. Pretty easy to find in the wild
3. I just think the boxes look nice
DefaultGen
04-03-2008, 11:42 PM
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Alfador
04-03-2008, 11:48 PM
I fell into a couple 32x games for free (including Spiderman) so I decided to start going for that complete set as well..
ProgrammingAce
04-03-2008, 11:48 PM
You should try to go for a complete collection of DP forum members.
Dangerboy
04-03-2008, 11:49 PM
32x is like 32 games or some such. Spider-Man, Both Baseball games, and Pitfall are the sons of bitches to get.
To be honest, I would look at it at a different approach: rather than worry about the games specifics, what would *you* want.
I originally, way back when, did the TG16 library because it was the system that pulled me back into games - plus no one else I knew at the time even knew what a TG16 was, so I got to enjoy what I liked, and had a great conversation piece.
The PSX for me, was chosen for two reasons: There were so many games I loved on it; no one had done it; you'd have had to been insane to try it, and the hunt is / was just as much fun as the collection.
It's why I am going for a complete Wii collection right off the bat; there are sooo many obscure, cheap games for it that the hunt lives on.
Go not for ease or cost, go for the joy of the hunt and personal game play. ^_^
Volcanon
04-03-2008, 11:51 PM
how about pippin? it only had like five games released.
the_toxic_frog
04-04-2008, 12:04 AM
All of the above are good suggestions; especially the 32X. There is a website you can go to that has the end-all be-all of everything you want to know about the 32X ( http://www.geocities.com/the32xmemorial/index2.html ). If you want a system with the fewest games you should try the RDI Halcyon; it had 2!!! The PSone is for Masochist...... But the best all around decision I'd say would be the Sega Dreamcast. It has around 300 games ( I think ) and you can find many still brand new and factory sealed for under $6.00. Even then there are vew few games that would fetch you more than $15.00. Plus there are many outstanding games for solo ( Super Magnetic Neo ) or multiplayer ( Soul Caliber ) and even better is that because it is cd based if the case ( packaging ) is cracked you can always buy a new one to replace it which you can't do with a non-cd based system.
Frankie_Says_Relax
04-04-2008, 01:16 AM
Since you don't seem to be ruling out portables, I always vote for Atari Lynx when people ask this type of question.
There were very few major rarities in it's library, and you can still find a majority of the titles for it new/sealed in the wild, and since it was never a system that the GameStop chain/family of stores bought/sold used, you can often find sellers that have large lots of games to sell (as they never really had an option to trade/sell them individually).
Ze_ro
04-04-2008, 01:49 AM
My vote goes for: Don't Bother. Just buy games you like, and skip the bullshit like Math Gran Prix and Superman 64. There's no Achievement for completing a collection.
--Zero
Trevelyan
04-04-2008, 01:51 AM
To be honest, I would look at it at a different approach: rather than worry about the games specifics, what would *you* want.
Go not for ease or cost, go for the joy of the hunt and personal game play.
ditto. Having a prerequisite clause based on the ease of completion was not on my mind when I started collecting video games, it was all about the :lovin: of certain games & the individual consoles. I'm getting towards a more completist mentality on one system, & its great! but it's a looong way off yet & I enjoy the challenge.
for me, I think the NES or SNES ntsc collection would be great to have.
Cinder6
04-04-2008, 02:28 AM
I've always wanted to do a complete Virtual Boy collection. First off, it would be very easy (only 14 games), and pretty dang cheap. The only difficulty would be in Jack Bros, and it's really not too bad. Here's (http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-Virtual-Boy-Jack-Bros-Complete_W0QQitemZ250230620496QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6 2053QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) an auction for a complete copy, with a $175 BIN, and I think even that's considered pricey (I've never really looked into buying the game).
As for whether a VB collection would be fun, well, I'd consider it to be. My Virtual Boy has generated more conversation than all of my other systems combined, even considering the people who freak out over seeing the NES, or wondering what a Sega CD is. Plus, most of the games are actually pretty fun, with Wario Land being excellent.
j_factor
04-04-2008, 02:58 AM
I would go for NGPC if anything. Not too many games (more than 32x, but not a whole lot), few rarities, and it's probably the system with the largest percentage of its library being actually good. Plus it won't take up too much space.
32x wouldn't be too hard, but I just don't see why anyone would want to collect a full 32x set.
Saturn is a fun system to collect for, but there's one game that's such a bitch to find...
thetoxicone
04-04-2008, 03:11 AM
My vote goes for: Don't Bother. Just buy games you like, and skip the bullshit like Math Gran Prix and Superman 64. There's no Achievement for completing a collection.
--Zero
wait a minute...there are people that don't like math gran prix
Ed Oscuro
04-04-2008, 04:34 AM
My vote goes for: Don't Bother. Just buy games you like, and skip the bullshit like Math Gran Prix and Superman 64. There's no Achievement for completing a collection.
Achievements are just a marketing gimmick, anyway. Good post :D
DefaultGen
04-04-2008, 05:12 AM
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shadowforte
04-04-2008, 11:33 AM
Well, in the long run I am and always have been going for a complete PS1 collection because that is, IMO, the best system of all time next to the SNES and PS2. And for the people that say don't do it, why do you care? Maybe I am doing it because it is something I enjoy. And I am starting to get into Sega alot, and like the one post said if I got all/most of the games for the 32X, then that could lead me into getting Genesis and Sega CD games. Basicly, I am always buying games for every system. Right now I am going crazy buying NES carts (To me, buying those little gray carts is like taking drugs), but I know that will take a long time to get a complete collection. I might as well have something to shoot for while I am collecting everything else.
How about the WonderSwan? There's some excellent games on there. It's virtually an indy machine!
GaijinPunch
04-04-2008, 11:40 AM
I'm one of the "buy games you like/play" guys. You should never have to ask someone what to buy.
shadowforte
04-04-2008, 11:54 AM
Here is a question: How many GB Games were released? How about GBC?
Ze_ro
04-04-2008, 01:06 PM
I've always wanted to do a complete Virtual Boy collection. First off, it would be very easy (only 14 games), and pretty dang cheap. The only difficulty would be in Jack Bros, and it's really not too bad. Here's (http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-Virtual-Boy-Jack-Bros-Complete_W0QQitemZ250230620496QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6 2053QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) an auction for a complete copy, with a $175 BIN, and I think even that's considered pricey (I've never really looked into buying the game).
Despite my previous derision of complete collections, I'm actually only one game away from a complete set of North American VB releases (Strangely enough, the one I'm missing is Virtual League Baseball, the cheapest and most common one). I got Jack Bros fairly recently for about $100, so I'd say that BIN is very high.
One of the problems with Virtual Boy is that once you get the small amount of North American releases, you start to get tempted by the Japanese exclusives... most of which are ridiculously expensive! Good luck getting stuff like Space Invaders and SD Gundam Dimension War. I have V-Tetris and Space Squash, and I want to eventually pick up Insmouse no Yakata... and maybe Virtual Fishing if I can find it for decently cheap, but that would be pretty much it for me.
As for whether a VB collection would be fun, well, I'd consider it to be.
I find the games interesting from a technical standpoint. Even if they're not always fun, the 3D effect is really neat.
--Zero
ianoid
04-04-2008, 02:38 PM
Easier collections to complete:
Classic wise: Odyssey, Channel F (those 22-26 carts are a little tough but can be found either on their own or in bundles), 5200 (Bounty Bob's a pain)
Neo-classic: Sega Master System or Sega CD (I consider 32x to be a Genesis appendage)
Modern: Dreamcast, Lynx (questionably modern, I know)
Completing collections isn't something you do because it makes sense. It is something you do out of compulsion. A discussion of compulsion is beyond the scope of this thread.
DefaultGen
04-04-2008, 03:08 PM
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guitargary75
04-04-2008, 04:03 PM
Atari 7800. You can still get alot the games new and sealed. Plus there is some great stuff.\\^_^/
murdoc rose
04-04-2008, 04:11 PM
if that is all that matters go for virtual boy or 5200 there are like 16 virtual boy games and jack bros is the only real problem it's selling for like 100 lose but as far as price goes try the 5200
murdoc rose
04-04-2008, 04:15 PM
actually thinking about it vb may take longer than you would expect they don't come up on ebay all that often I'm missing 4 all somewhat common stuff but then again I pain $50 for for a boxed vb with 12 includeing the 2 rarest so its a little different in to me
ssjlance
04-04-2008, 04:20 PM
VB all the way, as long as you go for the US stuff. I opted for Japanese games, and I wish I had just bought the U.S. games instead. But, I just really prefer the way the Japanese boxes look. Plus, Japanese Jack Bros. is nowhere near as expensive as the U.S. version.
guitargary75
04-04-2008, 04:31 PM
I changed my mind. I agree go with the VB.
Poofta!
04-04-2008, 05:22 PM
the neo geo AES.
have fun, and please dont ask silly questions again.
I'm one of the "buy games you like/play" guys. You should never have to ask someone what to buy.
I completely agree.
Collect what you like.
Trebuken
04-04-2008, 10:28 PM
Lots of ideas given, but in similar posts one that pops up is SMS. It's 110 games or so and not too tough. You can settle for an import Sonic and then you just have to spend $$$ on Buster Douglas...
Atari 7800 is fun as well as the 5200 (forget Bounty Bob, someone needs to sell reproductions of that one). Neo Geo Pocket isn't that easy. I've been stuck on the last 5 games or so for a couple of years. 32X was my first complete set despite the fact that my 32x never worked....
Another system that was fairly easy for me, though it may be tougher now, was the Nokia N-Gage. 50ish games...
Sega Genesis is doable (minus Blockbuster, and Miracle Piano) as well as the Dreamcast.
I have begun to define complete as 95%. Every system has those couple games you need to sell an organ to afford or get insanely lucky...
Cinder6
04-04-2008, 10:36 PM
the neo geo AES.
have fun, and please dont ask silly questions again.
All US releases, right? :)
ronclon
04-04-2008, 10:37 PM
I'm collecting the dreamcast ntsc (USA) collection right now, only about 250 games so the it is within reason and most of the games are not to expensive. After I get that done I will get the japanese and euro games that didn't get released in the states.
DefaultGen
04-05-2008, 01:20 AM
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Famidrive-16
04-05-2008, 02:41 AM
I have an on/off goal of trying to get a complete N64 collection. The only games I haven't seen is Sculptor's Cut, but I'm sure that even finding that isn't too hard.
Good luck with SD Gundam Dimension War!
And Virtual Bowling! :)
Zebbe
04-05-2008, 06:09 PM
I suggest the 64DD. Only nine games released. You can count them on your hands!
otoko
04-05-2008, 07:06 PM
if that is all that matters go for virtual boy or 5200 there are like 16 virtual boy games and jack bros is the only real problem it's selling for like 100 lose but as far as price goes try the 5200
Atari 7800. You can still get alot the games new and sealed. Plus there is some great stuff.\\^_^/
actually thinking about it vb may take longer than you would expect they don't come up on ebay all that often I'm missing 4 all somewhat common stuff but then again I pain $50 for for a boxed vb with 12 includeing the 2 rarest so its a little different in to me
I changed my mind. I agree go with the VB.
That's what I was going to suggest. I have a complete Virtual boy Collection (minus a small amount of assessories) I did it with only two eBay auctions.
DefaultGen
04-06-2008, 01:52 AM
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BHvrd
04-06-2008, 06:02 AM
A 3DO collection might be fun and interesting for a first go at it.
I would say for $/#games/common.
It would be hella more interesting than a 32x collection imo and not as bad as a CD-i or Jaguar, lol.
I think you would get more bang for your buck and well I dunno a 3DO collection walks the line of a crap/interesting collection. Some real oddball stuff on there, unique in some ways....
Apparently 174 "give or take" US games and 75 Japanese "if you go import" http://fz1-3do.blog.co.uk/2006/05/22/174_complete_list_of_3do_games~820949. Not bad and not many are expensive I believe "could be wrong".
smork
04-06-2008, 11:33 AM
One of the problems with Virtual Boy is that once you get the small amount of North American releases, you start to get tempted by the Japanese exclusives... most of which are ridiculously expensive! Good luck getting stuff like Space Invaders and SD Gundam Dimension War. I have V-Tetris and Space Squash, and I want to eventually pick up Insmouse no Yakata... and maybe Virtual Fishing if I can find it for decently cheap, but that would be pretty much it for me.
I've got a complete Japanese VB set right now, minus 3 games -- SD Gundam, Virtual Lab, and Virtual Bowling. And holy shit those three are expensive. The rest (outside Space Invaders) weren't too bad.
Got two of the five demos as well.
I don't know what a complete, in good shape Virtual Bowling will go for. $500? $700? So sad.
Ze_ro
04-06-2008, 11:19 PM
I have begun to define complete as 95%. Every system has those couple games you need to sell an organ to afford or get insanely lucky...
com·plete /kəmˈplit/ adjective, verb, -plet·ed, -plet·ing.
–adjective
1. having all parts or elements; lacking nothing; whole; entire; full: a complete set of Mark Twain's writings.
I can understand the need to define a scope for some systems, like I don't consider the NES NWC cartridge to be a legitimate North American release, so if someone says they have a complete set of North American releases, I wouldn't expect them to have that... but don't try to delude yourself into thinking "complete" and "good enough" are the same thing.
--Zero
Mark30001
04-07-2008, 12:34 AM
Super A'Can.
boatofcar
04-07-2008, 12:37 AM
That's what I was going to suggest. I have a complete Virtual boy Collection (minus a small amount of assessories) I did it with only two eBay auctions.
But doesn't winning a complete collection in two ebay auctions take all the fun out of "collecting?"
I'm going to try for a CIB Game Boy set one of these days. I really like the boxes.
murdoc rose
04-07-2008, 01:18 AM
com·plete /kəmˈplit/ adjective, verb, -plet·ed, -plet·ing.
–adjective
1. having all parts or elements; lacking nothing; whole; entire; full: a complete set of Mark Twain's writings.
I can understand the need to define a scope for some systems, like I don't consider the NES NWC cartridge to be a legitimate North American release, so if someone says they have a complete set of North American releases, I wouldn't expect them to have that... but don't try to delude yourself into thinking "complete" and "good enough" are the same thing.
--Zero
is it ever truly complete. I know that my sound silly, but once you get into a goal, like lets say complete set of North American nes releases. You end up working on label variations and then pal games or what ever you find that is a branch off of you collection. It just grows and grows I personally see collecting as a series of goals and the thrill of the hunt. My point is that you should collect what you like and go from there. Sets, just become a part of the over all collection and give you direction. My advise is to you is pick your favorite system and start there. By the time you get close you will be collecting sonic bk toys and anything else you can find so have fun.