Fatal Frame series is back [Archive] - Retrogaming Roundtable

Icarus Moonsight

04-05-2008, 07:12 PM

It had a write up in NP last months issue. From what I was able to gather from it, the fourth game will be a collaboration between Tecmo, Grasshopper Manufacture and Nintendo (whom will lend dev/pub support mostly). Suda51 and the No More Heroes team is supposedly hands-on here on the project lending some experience with the waggle stick. :)

Take one of the creepiest game series in years and put it in the hands of Suda... can you dig it? LOL

Google Search Fatal+Frame+Wii results 500,000+ hits... yeah, zero info out there to substantiate. :p

Leo_A

04-05-2008, 07:56 PM

Good news, been excited since I heard about this several weeks ago.

I only recently acquired Fatal Frame and Fatal Frame II on the Xbox and I've enjoyed playing through both. I don't have Fatal Frame III on the PS2 yet.

scooterb23

04-05-2008, 08:51 PM

Google Search Fatal+Frame+Wii results 500,000+ hits... yeah, zero info out there to substantiate. :p

Yeah, Google Search also eliminates the need for about 99.854% of all forum discussions, so help those of us out too lazy to open another browser tab :P

exit

04-06-2008, 02:15 AM

I'm guessing a multi-console release will be slim to none, it's a pity really.

fuchikoma

04-06-2008, 03:00 AM

Rather see it on 360 or PS3 at 1080p.

Waggle brings nothing to the table for Fatal Frame.

Icarus Moonsight

04-06-2008, 03:07 AM

Rather see it on 360 or PS3 at 1080p.

Waggle brings nothing to the table for Fatal Frame.

You have a beta or something? :shameful: I really need to upgrade my 8-ball to the crystal oracle so many here seem to have. :p

@scooter : Naw, man. It doesn't eliminate discussion threads. It eliminates the need for repost threads that just ctrl-v into existence. Not a fan of those myself either. Find your own links ya mooch. LOL

Rev. Link

04-06-2008, 03:32 AM

Rather see it on 360 or PS3 at 1080p.

Waggle brings nothing to the table for Fatal Frame.

You don't think a game whose main gimmick is pointing and shooting a camera would benefit from motion controls?

fuchikoma

04-06-2008, 04:43 AM

You don't think a game whose main gimmick is pointing and shooting a camera would benefit from motion controls?

Nope.

The obvious is to move camera control from the analog stick to pointing via wii remote. It's different, but it doesn't change the core gameplay, or more importantly, draw you any further into it.

It's a camera. It's not exciting like a gun or a lightsaber. The whole point is to force you into a claustrophobic first-person perspective just when the scary parts ramp up.

Maybe if they ship it with a little viewfinder that snaps onto the wii remote and forces you to hold it up to your face when you want to take a picture. That would be cool.

But, I'd still rather have Fatal Frame 4 with traditional controls running on the Ninja Gaiden 2 engine.

BHvrd

04-06-2008, 05:00 AM

Maybe if they ship it with a little viewfinder that snaps onto the wii remote and forces you to hold it up to your face when you want to take a picture. That would be cool.

^^^ Now that is a damn good idea right thur! ^^^^

3-D even?

Leo_A

04-06-2008, 08:45 AM

There has been rumors as well of Nintendo purchasing the rights to the Fatal Frame name and series, which would prevent it going to other consoles if true.

Though GQD is reprinting two of the PS2 Fatal Frame games right now so I don't know if that's actually the case.

Leo_A

01-21-2010, 07:40 PM

For those that are interested, the patch to get rid of the region locking for Fatal Frame 4 and provide a English translation is now available for download.

You just need a Japanese import of Fatal Frame 4 and a SD cart to place the patch on. No modding, hacking, installing things like the Homebrew Channel, etc, is needed.

http://zero4.higashinoeden.com/

Edit - Could anyone link me to the download? Their website sucks since it's made by a bunch of nerds and I'm not about to download a internet browser just because of their IE hate.

Found it finally:

http://zero4.higashinoeden.com/help/help.html

The 1 2 P

01-21-2010, 08:29 PM

DeputyMoniker

01-21-2010, 11:10 PM

I've assumed this was still in production. I never heard it wasn't being released here. Any of you guys have an opinion on the quality of this hack?

j_factor

01-22-2010, 12:11 AM

Based on the majority of third party core games released on the Wii last year I now fully understand why this didn't get released in North America. It would have most likely sold very poorly but I definitely would have picked it up.

It's not third-party really, this one's published by Nintendo. Nintendo were the ones who decided not to publish it outside of Japan. A European release was planned at one point, but apparently an American release was never really considered. Lame. Nintendo sucks.

I'd heard about the fan translation, but didn't really pay attention to it because I didn't want to mod my Wii. That's really awesome (and unexpected) that it works with no mod and no Homebrew Channel.

mnbren05

01-22-2010, 01:01 PM

Meh just as well it didn't come here, it would have most likely made me hate the series. Just something about the Wii that kills my interest in games. I think the whole moving the camera/flashlight with the wii remote would have faired as well as it did in The Grudge Wii game.

Leo_A

07-21-2014, 03:03 PM

It's another generation, another entry in the Fatal Frame series, and a return to hoping that Nintendo of America will see fit to localize it and release it here. But it seems fitting to revive this topic with the trailer for the upcoming Fatal Frame U for the Wii U.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1rv4GAZoho

Hopefully they don't let us down this time like they did with Fatal Frame 4 and the remake of Fatal Frame 2 for the Wii.

You don't think a game whose main gimmick is pointing and shooting a camera would benefit from motion controls?Maybe if they ship it with a little viewfinder that snaps onto the wii remote and forces you to hold it up to your face when you want to take a picture. That would be cool.

It took the passing of another console generation, but oddly enough, that's essentially what we're getting with this new entry.

Daria

07-21-2014, 03:28 PM

And yet we got Spirit Camera. Bleh...

Leo_A

07-21-2014, 05:12 PM

Let's hope the sales performance of that waste of a spin-off didn't confirm in their eyes their apparent earlier opinion of the sales potential of this franchise in North America.

When Nintendo of America could sit on a fully translated Fatal Frame game (The remake of FF2) for a system not yet replaced that had a 45 million unit install base in this region at the time and few new quality software offerings, the Wii U's lack of software isn't going to guarantee this one making it to North America. So hopefully the Hollywood tie-in that's apparently in production will serve as the incentive for NOA to not once again overlook this series.

I wish Tecmo had just continued this franchise on its own. If Nintendo's money is what makes these possible, I guess I'm glad they're there. But if Tecmo has the financial wherewithal to keep going at it alone, I sure wish they hadn't gotten Nintendo involved.

Gameguy

07-23-2014, 12:32 AM

What a coincidence this new upcoming Fatal Frame game is getting released literally the next day after a Fatal Frame movie is being released in Japan. :roll:

They're just making this game to leach off the hype of this upcoming movie, which is currently only scheduled for release in Japan. There's not much chance of a localization for North America at this point. Or the movie is leaching off the game, or both slightly off each other. Just seems like another blockbuster type release/sequel at this point.

Tanooki

07-23-2014, 08:23 AM

How bad is Spirit Camera?

Also while I agree that the small base vs large base with the Fatal Frame games from the Wii to WiiU could appear to be an issue, keep in mind, arrogant ass Nintendo is starting to remember a few lessons I think because of the pounding they're taking. Stockholders can wreck the lot of them and at this point there's a desperation mode going on. A game like Fatal Frame WiiU I'd say would be MORE likely to show up now than on the Wii because it's NOT a Nintendo game. It's not bright, cuddly, mario, zelda, it's not an E or minor-T game, it's everything Nintendo isn't. They need that because the third parties are sure as shit making little effort and they need the diversity. On the Wii those arrogant assholes threw a few fully in english games under the bus our region would have loved beyond Fatal Frame 2, like Day of Disaster to name one and they did it arrogantly on the Cube too with Doshin the Giant as well. Tecmo is pretty tight with them at the moment too with the Zelda franchise being handed over for Hyrule Warriors so that's a plus.

Leo_A

07-23-2014, 01:09 PM

They're just making this game to leach off the hype of this upcoming movie, which is currently only scheduled for release in Japan.

That's what I assumed, but other folks are talking like it's going to see an international release as well. Or at least I'm hearing Hollywood mentioned in the same breath, which if it isn't incorrect would seem pretty strange for a Japanese only film.

I'm hoping this game receives a domestic release since they have an excellent track record with this franchise that inspires confidence that this sequel will be a fine game, movie tie-in or not (and I worry that there won't be an easy workaround this time to solve NOA's stupidity unlike how well it worked out on the Wii).

But I'm not holding my breath...

Gameguy

07-23-2014, 10:47 PM

How bad is Spirit Camera?
Every review I've seen about this game says that it's terrible and describes in detail the problems with it. Basically, imagine a horror game, but instead of it taking place in a creepy unfamiliar environment with a disturbing atmosphere, it instead takes place within your own home which you'd be very comfortable and familiar with. Because it makes use of the 3DS cameras it can't be played in the dark, it can only be played in a well lit room. Sooo scary!!

Apparently you also need the manual with you as you're playing the game, as in you need to take pictures of it to progress in the game. The game is also only 2 hours long.

Two reviews I remember reading back when the game first came out.

http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/spirit_camera_the_cursed_memoir
http://www.destructoid.com/review-spirit-camera-the-cursed-memoir-225748.phtml

Leo_A

07-23-2014, 11:22 PM

Even if it turned out well, the very fact that it's so dramatically different is a turn-off if you're going into it wanting more Fatal Frame. They'd of had to hit a home-run to overcome that, but they obviously didn't come anywhere close to accomplishing that.

I'm glad the title doesn't include the Fatal Frame name since it wouldn't of done this franchise's chances any favors in North America.

Daria

07-24-2014, 12:46 AM

Every review I've seen about this game says that it's terrible and describes in detail the problems with it. Basically, imagine a horror game, but instead of it taking place in a creepy unfamiliar environment with a disturbing atmosphere, it instead takes place within your own home which you'd be very comfortable and familiar with. Because it makes use of the 3DS cameras it can't be played in the dark, it can only be played in a well lit room. Sooo scary!!

Apparently you also need the manual with you as you're playing the game, as in you need to take pictures of it to progress in the game. The game is also only 2 hours long.

Two reviews I remember reading back when the game first came out.

http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/spirit_camera_the_cursed_memoir
http://www.destructoid.com/review-spirit-camera-the-cursed-memoir-225748.phtml

I couldn't get through two hours. In addition to the lights on problem, you have to turn around constantly while holding up the DS. So you either have to play the game standing up, or sit in a rolley chair.

Leo_A

09-10-2014, 06:09 PM

Here's an excellent looking trailer that has just been released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1qodxweV3o&feature=youtu.be

Japanese release is just a bit over two weeks from now. But just silence so far from Nintendo of America. :(

Leo_A

10-01-2014, 06:26 PM

Now out in Japan and Tecmo's European office has tweeted that they're unaware of any plans for a localization and Western release.

Looks like they've done it to us, again.

Tanooki

10-01-2014, 08:19 PM

That's why I tend not to pay attention to press releases for third party games coming to a Nintendo console in Japan as we tend to almost always get screwed as the home office here has since Yamauchi retired is head firmly planted so far up its ass if there was another head up top it could french kiss itself. They did it on the Cube, more on the Wii and WiiU looks to be more of the same and likely even more we miss too as it appears to be an escalating pattern.

Nintendo's actions keeps driving me to be a multi-console owner one, and two finally with how badly the Wii was handled sickened enough by their shit to actually sell off their systems which I never did before. They just don't fucking care unless it's first party and polished enough of a rehash people are happy to buy it by the millions to keep them afloat.

Leo_A

10-02-2014, 06:27 PM

This isn't 3rd party, it's a Nintendo published release.

If it was just Tecmo, I bet they'd release it.

Satoshi_Matrix

10-02-2014, 07:30 PM

I LOVE Fatal Frame 1, 2 and 3. I still haven't played 4.

I wish they'd all come to PS4 as a compilation. I hate the fact that Fatal Frame III is on PS2 only. I want the best versions of a series to stay on one platform or family of platforms.

Right now it's
1 - Xbox
2 - Xbox
3 - PS2
4 - Wii
5 - WiiU

Thats literally jumping from Microsoft to Sony to Nintendo.

Put them all on Sony or else all on Nintendo. Don't put one here one there and one across the street.

Leo_A

10-02-2014, 08:11 PM

Don't forget that there's a fine remake of Fatal Frame 2 on the Wii.

Tanooki

10-02-2014, 10:10 PM

I know Nintendo publishes it, but it's not their game either as you said it's Tecmo. I'm not entirely sure they'd release it since we only got an old Ninja Gaiden game awhile back and it didn't move well. That usually is the excuse. On the Wii they blew off the series, blew off Disaster, Another Story, and others. It's just a pattern of ignorance with the US branch I've just come to accept and I'd rather be surprised if they ever did the right thing anymore.

Leo_A

10-02-2014, 10:56 PM

Nintendo has an ownership stake in this franchise. They're not just acquiring the worldwide publishing rights, releasing them in Japan, and otherwise sitting on it.

2nd party would probably be the most accurate term for this relationship.

Gameguy

10-02-2014, 11:30 PM

Thats literally jumping from Microsoft to Sony to Nintendo.
The series started on the PS2, it only got ported to Xbox later on. So it's really from Sony to Nintendo. Pretty much the opposite of Final Fantasy.

Daria

10-03-2014, 02:30 AM

Now out in Japan and Tecmo's European office has tweeted that they're unaware of any plans for a localization and Western release.

Looks like they've done it to us, again.

Assholes. I bought Spirit Camera new *shakes fists* I'm owed a good Fatal Frame release dammit.

Leo_A

10-03-2014, 11:15 AM

The series started on the PS2, it only got ported to Xbox later on. So it's really from Sony to Nintendo. Pretty much the opposite of Final Fantasy.

The Xbox versions of Fatal Frame and Fatal Frame 2 are considered superior to the PS2 originals due to numerous enhancements. That's more so what he was referring to, I assume.

The Wii version of FF2 took it a step even further with numerous other enhancements, new areas to explore, additional endings, etc.

Satoshi_Matrix

10-03-2014, 12:47 PM

Don't forget that there's a fine remake of Fatal Frame 2 on the Wii.

Isn't that just a PORT of the Xbox version?

Leo_A

10-03-2014, 05:38 PM

Nope, it has a lot of enhancements.

Enough so where it's considered a remake by the fanbase, although the leap really isn't much more than what it was going from the PS2 version to the Xbox edition. If I didn't prefer 1st person, it would definitely be the definitive edition of the game (As I recall, you can only play from the Fatal Frame 4 style 3rd person behind the character viewpoint).

Gameguy

10-03-2014, 11:38 PM

The Xbox versions of Fatal Frame and Fatal Frame 2 are considered superior to the PS2 originals due to numerous enhancements. That's more so what he was referring to, I assume.

The Wii version of FF2 took it a step even further with numerous other enhancements, new areas to explore, additional endings, etc.
I know the Xbox versions are considered to be better as they came out later, but the main series was meant for the PS2. I'm not really big on extra endings either for most games, especially when sequels follow the events of previous games and only one ending is considered to be correct. Some games with added content are much better, others not so much.

I just think back to the director's cut of Broken Sword and all of the additional content was basically unnecessary filler or just crap. Additional puzzles that felt out of place and forced in, a new first chapter that's out of place and adds nothing of real value, etc. I was really disappointed with this one.

Satoshi_Matrix

10-04-2014, 06:51 PM

Ugh....Fatal Frame II on Wii is only in Japan and PAL regions.

Well, my Wii still runs an old enough firmware for me to have the Homebrew channel and the Gecko launcher, so I could import a PAL copy. Do any of you guys know if it plays nice with NTSC?

Leo_A

10-04-2014, 07:22 PM

I played through the UK version just fine on my Wii connected to my 480i Trinitron SD CRT.

I'm not really big on extra endings either for most games, especially when sequels follow the events of previous games and only one ending is considered to be correct. Some games with added content are much better, others not so much.

Not so much with the original Fatal Frame, although the graphics are certainly improved a bit and look better. But if you just stick with the PS2 version for Fatal Frame 2, you're missing out. 1st person viewpoint, the big extra for the Xbox version, is excellent and I highly recommend playing through it at least once from that perspective. And the PS2 perspective is also available.

The Xbox versions of the first two are definitely the way to go over the PS2 originals. They're everything that they were, but with even more polish.

Satoshi_Matrix

10-05-2014, 02:22 AM

It was a bugger to find for a decent price, but I own the Xbox version of Fatal Frame II.

Leo, a couple questions.

What is different/better about the Wii version compared to the Xbox build?

What controller options does it support?

You said you played it in 480i. I wonder why you would do such a thing to yourself but interlaced hatred aside, can you test your copy to make sure there's nothing weird happening on an HDTV with 480p? I love Fatal Frame, and would consider importing the UK version if and only if it supports PAL 60 which is essentially NTSC anyway. If it's a PAL 50 game then forget it.

Leo_A

10-05-2014, 10:47 PM

You said you played it in 480i. I wonder why you would do such a thing to yourself but interlaced hatred aside

My HDTV's scaler, for whatever reason, absolutely butchers anything that isn't HD. Definitely needs replacement by something more modern and capable, but that's why my Wii was connected to the same tv that I play Atari 2600 games on and the like (A nice Sony Trinitron). But at least it has been hooked up via component cables all these years.

It's also one reason why I love my Wii U so much since it allows me to enjoy some great Nintendo classics in widescreen at long last like Super Mario Galaxy, thanks to the Wii U itself handling upscaling for Wii titles.

can you test your copy to make sure there's nothing weird happening on an HDTV with 480p? I love Fatal Frame, and would consider importing the UK version if and only if it supports PAL 60 which is essentially NTSC anyway. If it's a PAL 50 game then forget it.

I can certainly test it out and see what happens in 480p, although I can confirm already that it's 60 Hz only and is labeled as EDTV/HDTV compatible, thanks to a handy notation on the rear of the case insert.

What controller options does it support?

As for controller options, it's Wii remote and nunchuck only. No Classic Controller or GameCube controller functionality despite its roots as a PS2/Xbox game and its late Wii release (At a time when gamepad options were commonplace for quality games where such a feature made sense).

What is different/better about the Wii version compared to the Xbox build?

As for differences, the biggest one next to the obvious change to motion controls (And the Wiimote's speaker is also put to use) is perspective. You now play from a 3rd person, behind the character perspective.

Other enhancements off the top of my head include remade cut scenes, significantly improved character animation, new areas are opened up to explore that previously were inaccessible, the variety of ghost attacks is increased, a new haunted house mode for 2 player multiplayer, at least one new ending (I think there might be more), improved character models, and improved graphics in general thanks to running in the Fatal Frame 4 engine.

Had they tossed in Classic Controller/GCN gamepad options and the ability to select the PS2's fixed camera perspective or the Xbox port's 1st person perspective (My personal favorite for this franchise), there would be little reason to play the original versions.

But if you're a fan of this franchise, I definitely recommend tracking this down.

Daria

10-06-2014, 01:04 PM

Yeah, it's sounding more and more like I need to track down the wii fatal frame titles. At least I'm already set up with homebrew channel.

Edit: I also kind of like motion controls for survival horror games. As much as I complained about the combat in Shattered Memories I couldn't imagine playing it with a standard controller.

Leo_A

10-06-2014, 07:38 PM

Hooked my Wii up temporarily to my HDTV and checked this out. I had no issues with Fatal Frame 2 at 480p. You should be good to go, Satoshi.

Leo_A

01-14-2015, 06:06 PM

With Wii downloads now available on Wii U, anyone taking bets on if Nintendo of America will finally do something right and make available the already translated remake of Fatal Frame 2 on the North American eShop?

Makes too much sense...

Tanooki

01-14-2015, 11:00 PM

I think it's definitely possible, also Disaster that toolbox ass Reggie blackballed from the UK and that one IS in english.

They do love to release imports and charge a mini premium over the usual price by a dollar or two. It wouldn't surprise me if Regtard would put his man pants on and allowed them finally after all these years as the expense of selling a download removes jitters over a physical release.

Leo_A

02-09-2015, 05:43 PM

It's not much, but at least this provides a glimmer of hope.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/09/devils-third-creator-hints-at-fatal-frame-v-localization

Satoshi_Matrix

02-11-2015, 02:07 PM

read the article. There's gonna be a fatal frame movie?! That's awesome. If the Japanese do it, it could be really good. I wonder if it'll be essentially the first game turned into a film. That could really work.

Leo_A

04-01-2015, 06:27 PM

Fatal Frame U confirmed for North America later this year. :)

Daria

04-02-2015, 09:47 AM

I don't have a wiiU but this is one title I'll buy and set aside for later.

Leo_A

06-18-2015, 01:57 AM

Nintendo sure is putting their marketing muscle behind Fatal Frame 5. Not a mention in their E3 Direct, nor in this new Twitter post.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHuxWOiWoAAc54j.jpg

Anyways, here's their new YouTube trailer for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lDC5wC3OMw

Leo_A

06-23-2015, 10:34 PM

eShop exclusive? :roll:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1068851

While I'll begrudgingly support them if this happens (Although I'll seriously consider importing a Wii U from the UK if it gets a retail release over there), I'm going to do an awful lot of whining if paying $60 on the eShop is my only option. There are very few franchises where I'd ever even consider such a thing. Happily, at least I have the storage room for it since I bet I have at least 25 gigs free right now (This will be a ~16 GB download).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXP0UCh2-NE&feature=youtu.be

Sadly, their idiocy is likely just going to convince them that they were right all along to ignore this franchise.

First, they localize a stupid DS spin-off that stunk, for their first attempt at it instead of one of the Wii games that people actually wanted. And now they're not only going to make sure that both arms are tied behind its back with this release by all but ignoring it, but now they're going to lop them off by making it be an eShop exclusive.

Then, they're going to wonder why the fans that spoke out so much over the years ignored this one...

Leo_A

08-06-2015, 12:30 AM

Lucky Europeans...

http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/fatal-frame-limited-edition-656x369.jpg

http://nintendoeverything.com/fatal-frame-maiden-of-black-water-limited-edition-revealed-demo-coming/

How much do you want to bet that NOA makes this a $60 digital exclusive, as anecdotal evidence and NOA's reputation suggests is likely.

Leo_A

08-25-2015, 02:51 AM

Digital exclusivity confirmed for North America.

"Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water, co-developed by Koei Tecmo Games, launches exclusively in the Nintendo eShop on Wii U on Oct. 22 for $49.99, just in time for Halloween. Players can download this free-to-start game and play the prologue, chapter 1 and most of chapter 2 for free. The full version of the game can be purchased as DLC directly from the Nintendo eShop or via the in-game menu."

http://wiiudaily.com/2015/08/fatal-frame-eshop-only-relase-announcement/?utm_content=buffera96bf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

:(

Tron 2.0

08-25-2015, 03:57 AM

FieryReign

08-25-2015, 04:11 AM

They don't have the confidence that anything will sell for their tablet at this point.

Tanooki

08-25-2015, 09:17 AM

Well I hate to see a game fail that may not deserve to, but if NOA's reaction is to not make a physical release like the rest of the world while region locking the console, I just say don't buy it. Call them, write them, morse code it out but let them know you'll buy it once it gets a physical release. By denying releases from having a non-rental like status which they've done to some key titles for years now on various systems, it does them nothing but harm, and same goes for Sony who did that junk too lately with a few games. Sometimes things get corrected (Duck Tales Remastered, Wolfenstein Old Blood), and sometimes they don't (Umihara Kawase and Senran Kagura on 3DS.)

Leo_A

08-25-2015, 04:19 PM

I can't even take solace in the fact that it got a retail release in Europe and the system would be fairly easy to import

Both region's power supplies output identically so all you have to do is swap that component to get around that difference. And HD standards erase the PAL issue. And even if it initially boots up in 576i or whatever standard definition is over there, setup all happens on the Wii U gamepad as I recall. So getting it going isn't even an issue if it initially can't be displayed on my tv.

It would've been practical someday as prices drop, but alas, it's only a special edition over there and copies seemed to sell out very quickly. Going to be a more expensive import than the console itself likely would be, I'm afraid. $300 or possibly even more just for the console and game is just way too much, especially when I can already play the Fatal Frame 2 remake from the UK on my Wii thanks to the homebrew channel.

Nintendo has me over a barrel since I want this game and this bone that they're throwing is my only chance.

Gameguy

08-25-2015, 11:48 PM

It would've been practical someday as prices drop, but alas, it's only a special edition over there and copies seemed to sell out very quickly. Going to be a more expensive import than the console itself likely would be, I'm afraid. $300 or possibly even more just for the console and game is just way too much, especially when I can already play the Fatal Frame 2 remake from the UK on my Wii thanks to the homebrew channel.
Or there's piracy. I'm sure eventually someone will post a copy of the European disc to download. If it's only available officially as a download in North America, downloading a copy elsewhere gets you the same thing.

Tron 2.0

08-26-2015, 06:27 AM

They don't have the confidence that anything will sell for their tablet at this point.
More like noa doesn't care much about fatal frame at all :p They can be so clueless some times for games by third parties.

Tanooki

08-26-2015, 12:02 PM

I don't think it's clueless, it's more of the direct problem with them since well this century. They would always throw a third party under the bus if it meant they could sell more of their games. They're pandering to the fanboys that third parties rail on about who beg for their great stuff and then don't buy but a few copies then get butthurt when sequels or more titles dry up. Nintendo is just as responsible as the blind losers who buy their hardware that keep third party games off of it as they both feed into the stupid stuff. Back when the GC was around they did try some with that fund, and even here and there on DS like with the Dragon Quest 9 blowout for Enix, but mostly it was all tossing under the bus behavior.

Leo_A

08-26-2015, 06:28 PM

Just to possibly clear something up, this isn't even a 3rd party game. Nintendo has funded its development, owns the game itself, and is the publisher. They're crippling the chances of their own game, not somebody else's.

Nintendo doesn't own the Fatal Frame IP. As such, I also wouldn't say that it's correct to consider this as a 1st party release like many other Nintendo published games are considered as even when they're outsourced to a non-Nintendo developer (Like F-Zero GX for a prime example; Despite the Sega connection, everyone refers to a game such as this one as 1st party). But I'd definitely consider this game as the very picture of what a 2nd party release is considered as.

Tecmo, an independently owned studio, worked under a contract from Nintendo to develop a title in Tecmo's own Fatal Frame franchise for Nintendo. Although Tecmo retains ownership of past Fatal Frame games that they developed independently and the IP itself like the Fatal Frame label (as demonstrated by the presence of Fatal Frame 1-3 in their PS2 form on the PS3's digital storefront), Nintendo owns Fatal Frame 5 itself and it's going to be a Nintendo exclusive.

Tron 2.0

08-27-2015, 03:19 AM