1084 monitor with a super famicom

[mattbraz]

Hi

I'm thinking of buying a commodore 1084S monitor for use with my super famicom. I hear it's the best RGB picture you can get for older consoles.

The monitor doesn't have a Scart socket, so I can't use my RGB Scart cable.
It has composite (yuk) and I think a 9 Pin D input (might be the 8 pin din, will be getting feeback form the vendor soon).
What I want to know is how to get my nintendos hooked up to this 9 pid D.
Would I need a cable specially made?
If so, does anyone where I could get that done (I have no experience whatsoever with a soldering iron).
Help greatly appreciated,

Matt

[tom]

Or, get yourself a Philips 8833 (mark I), that one has scart and gives a gorgeous picture

[mattbraz]

What is the picture quality on a Phillips CM8833 II ?
I have found one of those too, but its also a 9 pin D input.

[phreak97]

either of those will work, but both of them require a special cable.. most people make the cables themselves (as i do), it only requires very basic soldering skills. you can probably use your scart cable and just put a din connector in place of the scart connector.
if you would like to build one yourself i'm more than happy to help (pm me), or if you'd like to have one made for you i'm happy to do that too, but i'm kinda far away so it might be in your best interest to find someone local who can do it.. cheaper shipping. it's probably best for you to make it yourself, then youll know what to do for other consoles aswel, and if the monitor has problems with the video signal, you can debug the cable first hand (with my help if required), instead of mailing it back for a silly adjustment:P

heres the 1084s pinout: http://www.gamesx.com/hwb/co_C1084a.html this pinout shows separate sync lines, but the sfc uses composite sync (combined sync on one line).. after a little research i found a diagram that says the 1084s din connector accepts composite sync via the h-sync line.. so it should be fine. the D type connector version defiantaly accepts composite sync, i have one of those, it does work. afaik the d type is the pal version and the din type is the ntsc version.

this page has the phillips D type connector pinout: http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/vga2tv/rgb_pinouts.html this monitor definately accepts composite sync, this monitor will work.

another option is a sony pvm monitor, these come in larger sizes, and are a professional display (i think), so the picture will be good, lots of people rave about them. something else.. commodore 1084s monitors have built in stereo speakers (though they do suck), and this makes them very convenient for transporting to a friends place or gaming event.. i dont know if the others have built in speakers.. you should check.


if this is all too confusing, dont worry about it, you just choose a monitor and i'll sort you out with the rest. (sorry if im underestimating your abilty.. i always assume zero knowledge with everyone to begin with.. makes things easier overall)

[tom]

What is the picture quality on a Phillips CM8833 II ?
I have found one of those too, but its also a 9 pin D input.

Its excellent too, I got four of those, but they don't have a scart input.

[mattbraz]

Thanks for the responses chaps.

phreak97: i've got very little electronics/video experience, but have done a lot of reading online trying to get the best out of my super famicom. And thanks for your detailed response.

I'm looking to buy a Phillips CM8833 II, which apparently accepts analogue RGB via it's 9 pid D port. If you can make me a cable to connect my Jap Super Famicom to this monitor i'd be very grateful. Postage from oz is not an issue, shouldnt be too bad for a cable. Please let me know how much your rates are for making it. Once i've secured the monitor, we can proceed.

Those pvm monitors look very cool, a bit pricey though. Also they seem to only take analogue RGB via BNC type connectors.
Maybe i'll investigate one of those next year. i might even try and make the cable.....ahem

[phreak97]

i can most certainly make you a cable for the phillips monitor:)
send me a pm once you buy the monitor, no point starting till then.

basic rundown:
basically what i'll be doing for you is buying a regular rgb (probably scart) cable then cutting off the scart connector and wiring in a 9 pin D connector. i'll also be pitting in some capacitors and possibly resistors (im working from memory, ill get the info up when the time comes).

the snes rgb cable ill buy to modify will be between $10 and $20. (if you can find a monitor with scart input, you can skip all this and just buy that cable alone)
i already have the capacitors and probably the resistors (if any) so i wont charge you for those, i got them for free from my tafe (college) when i was there.
the D connector will probably be about $3 or $4.
im guessing shipping cost will be about $10.. so the price is adding up pretty quick. even before im getting anything for my time.
if youre happy to continue, i am too.

[GaijinPunch]

AFAIK, those monitors are small (max 13"?). Get a PVM.

[evildragon]

I got a 13" Sony PVM and it kicks ass.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/moniuse.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/genpvm.jpg

[mattbraz]

I managed to get hold of a Philips 8833 mk1 with a scart socket today. So I'll see how that works out for me.
Thanks for all your help people.
phreak97: Something tells me I might be casting around for a wider screened sony pvm soon, and may need a cable after all.
It arrives next week, i'll let you all know how it goes.

[phreak97]

cool:) grab a snes or gamecube rgb scart cable off eby:)