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Mobius
04-14-2008, 06:02 PM
Is there a special trick to getting card-based games to work on the SMS? I have Ghost House, which is my only card game, and whenever I try to play it, I just get the instruction screen that says to insert a card or cartridge. This occurred with two separate systems. I also have the 3D glasses, which work fine. I'm thinking it's a bum card, but I want to make sure I'm not doing something wrong.
Mobius
04-14-2008, 06:41 PM
On recommendation of someone at another board, I cleaned the contacts of the card using an eraser. Worked like a charm!
Since I answered my own question, feel free to make this a general SMS card thread. So... Did anyone actually buy these card games back in the day? What's your favorite?
guitargary75
04-14-2008, 10:40 PM
It's sad to say, but I have never played them. I'm gonna have to get some now.
ShinobiMan
04-14-2008, 11:38 PM
Anybody remember the "SMS Gnomes"? You know, the one's that steal your instruction manuals! They have a taste for card based booklets.
Mobius
04-14-2008, 11:44 PM
The gnomes spared me the Ghost House manual, but they took the plastic sleeve. Jerks!
Nikademus1969
04-15-2008, 12:17 AM
The only SMS card game I had was Spy Vs Spy. I thought it was fun.
Wraith Storm
04-15-2008, 07:04 AM
Ghost House was great fun!!! It was one of the few Master System games that my local video store rented when I was younger. I rented the hell out of Ghost House and Fantasy Zone.
grolt
04-15-2008, 10:47 AM
The Sega Card games are all basically terrible. While I love me my Master System, I pretty much really dislike all the Card games. F-16 Fighting Falcon is probably the ugliest game ever made, although I give it props for requiring both controllers to be operated by the player in some crazy kind of flying simulation. Transbot, Teddy Boy and Ghost House are all simplistic and uber-repetetive, especially considering you can never finish any of them before they loop. Spy vs. Spy is nearly ALF-worthy as one of the worst games for the system. Fun in a good-bad way, I guess. Super Tennis is about as advanced as playing Virtua Tennis on the Dreamcast VMU. I love the fact that the SMS could accept card-based games, but they sure could have utilized them better.
Flashback2012
04-15-2008, 11:05 AM
The card based games were an interesting novelty. I always thought it was neat my SMS could accept games on both cart and card even if I never really understood why. The only one I remember ever putting any time into was Ghost House. Didn't alot of those card based games come out on cart in Europe?
grolt
04-15-2008, 11:08 AM
The card based games were an interesting novelty. I always thought it was neat my SMS could accept games on both cart and card even if I never really understood why. The only one I remember ever putting any time into was Ghost House. Didn't alot of those card based games come out on cart in Europe?
Yes, and there were also additional cart games that came out as cards overseas as well. Bank Panic, Hang-on, Great Baseball, and Great Soccer. I forgot to mention My Hero, which might be the most infuriating game of all. One hit, you're dead, and it plays so fast and clunky that it's near impossible.
rarebucky
04-15-2008, 12:15 PM
Agree with you on everything except Spy vs. Spy. One of the best and most addictive 2P games of my childhood. We never got tired of it.
Rogue
04-15-2008, 03:04 PM
Agree with you on everything except Spy vs. Spy. One of the best and most addictive 2P games of my childhood. We never got tired of it.
Me too. Spy vs. Spy is excellent for multiplayer! Or it was...
You guys need to realize the games are old before talking is the worst game ever made.
BTW, I never played a card game. My Spy vs. Spy is in cartridge. In Brasil there's no card games released so they released in cartridges.
And Ghost House, I never played it, but played a lot Chapolim vs. Dracula. A "licensed hack" of it. Brazilian too, in cartridge. And it was a great game to me. Because of the license of the TV show too.
That's those things you love when you are a kid. =D
BydoEmpire
04-15-2008, 11:23 PM
I had a bunch of them in the day, but I haven't reacquired any since getting another SMS a while bakc.
I really liked Ghost House - I played that forever. Transbot was kind of cool, though it never got challenging enough IIRC. I kind of liked Quartet, too, but it was like Transbot in that it never got very hard.
Spy vs. Spy on the SMS was pretty much a port of the c64 game, right? If so it's awesome.
All Things Sega
04-16-2008, 01:00 AM
The outrun sms card game was fun and didn't look to bad. I guess Sega was trying to save money on carts and thought people would gobble these up. I could care less for the card based games but without that card slot, I wouldn't be able to play the wonderful 3-d games
playgeneration
04-16-2008, 02:58 AM
Theres no Outrun card, or Quartet card, both games were only released on cartridge.
Matt-El
04-16-2008, 03:24 AM
Teddy Boy is extremely fun, but I recommend the arcade version more.
Graham Mitchell
04-16-2008, 09:55 AM
I actually enjoyed several of the card games back in the day. I actually didn't totally hate F-16 fighting Falcon at the time, though it's my least favorite one now. If I ever buy an SMS again, I definitely will get Ghost House, My Hero, and Teddy Boy. Those 3 are actually really fun, and Ghost House has surprisingly decent visuals for such a small game. I played the hell out of it when I was a kid.
In general, the card games were the smallest SMS games because they could only hold like 512K or something (I don't know the actual size). So you'd have to expect that you're not going to get much more than an arcade-style game. There are plenty of black-box variants on the NES that had similar levels of depth (Wrecking Crew, Balloon Fight, etc.) but I think we're all a bit more forgiving on those games because they were developed by the same people who worked on Kid Icarus, Metroid and Zelda--games we have an extreme appreciation of. As such, I think I percieve these NES games as having a lot more character and personality than some of these SMS games just because of my association with the other, higher-profile games that look and sound similar. But the three SMS card games that I mentioned really are good, despite this.
Sweater Fish Deluxe
04-16-2008, 02:00 PM
In general, the card games were the smallest SMS games because they could only hold like 512K or something (I don't know the actual size).
Actually, the card games max out at 32KB (maybe they could be bankswitched to hold more? I don't know), so they were really a throwback to the earlier days of videogaming, which may be why many people didn't like them. They feel more like ColecoVision games than Master System games because they used many of the same design elements as earlier games because of the limited ROM size, though as you pointed out some of them did have pretty nice graphics.
...word is bondage...
The card games are a throwback to their previous system, Sega Mark III, which had a card- and cart slot (like the later SMS). Called 'MyCards', they could hold up to 256KB in 1985 (source: The Encyclopedia of Game Machines: Consoles, Handhelds and Home Computers 1972-2005)
zektor
04-16-2008, 06:02 PM
Actually, the card games max out at 32KB (maybe they could be bankswitched to hold more? I don't know), so they were really a throwback to the earlier days of videogaming, which may be why many people didn't like them. They feel more like ColecoVision games than Master System games because they used many of the same design elements as earlier games because of the limited ROM size, though as you pointed out some of them did have pretty nice graphics.
...word is bondage...
I had a card once (Soccer maybe?) that was 128k and submitted it to Omar over at SMS Power to analyze. He thought it was quite odd....
I owned all of the card games back in the day when they came out. Although repetitive, I loved Ghost House and Transbot myself.
All Things Sega
04-17-2008, 12:35 AM
Theres no Outrun card, or Quartet card, both games were only released on cartridge.
My mistake, it was Hang On
Guess I had outrun on the brain because I had just finished playing outrun europa
RARusk
04-17-2008, 12:47 AM
"Spy vs. Spy on the SMS was pretty much a port of the c64 game, right? If so it's awesome."
Sort of. The SMS version has a lot more levels but you can't turn off that fucking music! Gah!
Graham Mitchell
04-17-2008, 01:09 AM
"Spy vs. Spy on the SMS was pretty much a port of the c64 game, right? If so it's awesome."
Sort of. The SMS version has a lot more levels but you can't turn off that fucking music! Gah!
The SMS version is probably the better game of the two (considering that it still has the gun) but for some reason I prefer the NES version. And I think it's because the NES version's music is awesome and totally memorable, while the SMS versions is...ugly.
ssjlance
04-17-2008, 01:57 AM
Hang-On is the only card I have that I enjoy. But it's also built into my system, so it's a moot point.
Frankie_Says_Relax
04-18-2008, 05:15 AM
I know I'm all but alone on this one, but I really love My Hero ... a great great port of the arcade version IMO with music that gets stuck in my head for days after I play it.
Ghost House, Trans-Bot, and Spy Vs. Spy also have seen plenty of play-time in my SMS card slot.
Graham Mitchell
04-19-2008, 10:31 AM
I know I'm all but alone on this one, but I really love My Hero ... a great great port of the arcade version IMO with music that gets stuck in my head for days after I play it.
Ghost House, Trans-Bot, and Spy Vs. Spy also have seen plenty of play-time in my SMS card slot.
Oh, you're not alone. My Hero is great. It's like an Activision 2600 game with really really good graphics. I still play it a lot whenever I'm around a computer with an SMS emulator on it.
ShinobiMan
04-25-2008, 01:18 PM
Oh, you're not alone. My Hero is great. It's like an Activision 2600 game with really really good graphics. I still play it a lot whenever I'm around a computer with an SMS emulator on it.
I used to love to make fun of My Hero. I understand where some of it's charm lies, but to me, it's an overly frustrating mess of a game. And why does that gangster ride a pig... a PIG?
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Here is a really nice detailed review of the game:
http://elafountain.iespana.es/gamemo2.html
rbudrick
04-25-2008, 04:29 PM
How could anyone think Ghost house is great fun?! It is the most frustratingly difficult and cheapest game EVER. Only gods can even make it to level 3 (I did it once after many years).
I used save states and such once to beat the game only to find out you have to do it TWICE! So kiddies, that's not 6 levels, but 12! Beware, the game is truly impossible. I'm absolutely certain no human could ever beat this game legitimately.
-Rob