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theaveng
08-16-2002, 10:26 AM
[ EDIT: Well, this guy didn't quite work out around here, but there's no reason to abandon a perfectly good list. Disk, tape, or cartridge, let us wax poetic over a favorite classic game system disguised as a computer! ]

Here's what we've got so far. Aphabetical order.

Airborne Ranger
Armalyte
Barbarian
Bard's Tale (trilogy)
Batman
Beachhead 2
Blue Max
Bruce Lee
Bubble Ghost
Buggy Boy
Citadel
Creatures
Defender of the Crown
Dino Eggs
Dropzone
Elite
Fast Tracks
Glider Rider
Great American Cross Contry Road Race
Great Giana Sisters The
Gunship
Hunter's Moon
Impossible Mission
International Karate
Jumpman
Laser Squad
Last Ninja (series)
Legacy of the Ancients
M.U.L.E.
Mayhem in Monsterland
Mercenary
Myth
Neuromancer
Paradroid
Pinball Construction Set
Pirates!
Rainbow Islands
Rambo First Blood Part II
Red Storm Rising
REVS+
Road Runner
Salamander
Satan's Hollow
Sentinel The
Silent Service
Skate or Die
SkyFox
Space Taxi
Spindizzy
Star Wars (Domark)
Super Pipeline
Sword of Fargoal
Test Drive II: The Duel
Thrust
Times of Lore
Traz
Turbo Outrun
Ultimate Wizard
Wasteland
Wizball
World Games

Raedon
08-16-2002, 10:37 AM
There is no Space Taxi on your list.. sigh..

And many of those games won't ru on a USA NTSC c64 just a PAL one..

theaveng
08-16-2002, 10:48 AM
Really? Which ones are PAL-only?

(Still waiting for an answer Raedon!)

congobongo
08-16-2002, 11:34 AM
I would include Zorro and Below the Root. Obviously Space Taxi has been added. I would consider Space Taxi #1.

oh ya and what about Grog's Revenge and Hunchback?

k8track
08-16-2002, 01:01 PM
Here's my top C64 games:

Journey to the Centre of the Earth
Boulder Dash 2
Gyruss
Gorf
Leaderboard Golf
Radwarrior
Knight Games
Crystal Castles
The Great American Cross Country Road Race
Summer Games I, II, Winter Games
Ghosts'N Goblins

They have provided many hours of good, clean entertainment.

CrazyImpmon
08-16-2002, 11:44 PM
You left out Ultima 5. It was probably one of the best Ultma game for C64 (I'm not going in details about U6 or why my boxed C64 version was hardly touched during it's lifetime)

I also liked Dragon Wars for the C64 (kinda like Might & Magic) and I've wasted many hours playing SimCity on C64. So much the original disk I have no longer works. :P

I'd also add Thundercats but it's probably personal bias. 8) And there's ATF that came packed in with the C64c / 1541-II bundle that I've played quite often.

I can't suggest which games to drop from the list because I haven't played with half of that list (and many I haven't even heard of)

Jorpho
08-17-2002, 12:44 AM
Arkanoid? Naah.

I would include Jumpman and Jumpman Junior. Many people also seem to be very attached to Project Firestart.
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theaveng
08-17-2002, 07:11 AM
I can't suggest which games to drop from the list because I haven't played with half of that list (and many I haven't even heard of)

DigiMon fan? ;-) You should go download the games you haven't played. They are available for free online.

What's the full name of ATF?
Troy

CrazyImpmon
08-17-2002, 07:40 AM
ATF stands for Advanced Tactical Fighter. It's a 1st person flight/shooting sim. Basically you fly a plane, finding and shooting down enemy targets all the while avoid getting shot down and shaking the enemy's heat seeking missles. Also you must land at friendly airports to refulel and rearm and landing's no easy task if you want to do it manually.

It's also strategy as when you're at the airport, you can check the map for all allied and ememy bases and plan the best route so you can take as many of the enemy out in one pass while still have enough fuel left to land at a nearby airport.

I still have the original disk and manual but I can't remember where the manual are as the game's mostly dependent on keyboard for setting air speed, going through the database of enemy target, setting autopilot for landing, and throwing off heat seeking missle.

Pretty complex game despite C64's limitations.

kevates
08-17-2002, 03:47 PM
May I humbly suggest a few offbeat titles for the list:

Pogo Joe (Superior Q-Bert Clone with 100 levels and good music)
Frankie Goes To Hollywood (Strange, but cool)

theaveng
08-18-2002, 07:00 PM
RED STORM RISING

If this game was re-made today for Playstation or Windoze, it would look exactly the same. Why? Because when you're locked inside a steel tube, there are no views of the outside world. Just blips on a sonar screen... and the C=64 recreates that claustrophobic feeling perfectly! The game was great in 1988 and it's great today...

theaveng
09-22-2002, 01:26 PM
(alphabetical order)
Airborne Ranger.....World Games

That's not the original list. Digital Press took my original message and chopped it to bits. My original message read:

C=64 TOP 100 (alphabetical order)
===================================
Addams Family
Alter Ego
Ancipital
Archon 1
Barbarian: The Ultimate Warrior (sword fighing w/ decapitation!)
Bard's Tale 1/2/3 (trilogy)
Batman the Movie
Battle Command
Beachhead 1/2
Bionic Commando
Blue Max
Bombuzal
Bounder
Bruce Lee
Buggy Boy
California Games (also try Summer/Winter/World Games)
AD&D: Champions of Krynn
Chips Challenge
Citadel
Commando
Defender of the Crown
Delta
Dizzy
Doomdark's Revenge
Double Dragon 2

Dropzone
ELITE
Emlyn Hughes International Soccer
Entombed
Exile
Fire Ant
First Samurai
Frankie Goes to Hollywood
Ghosts 'N Goblins / Ghouls 'N Ghosts
Green Beret
Guild of Thieves (Magnetic Scrolls)
Head over Heels
Heroquest
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (infocom: pure text adventure)
Hunter's Moon
IK+: International Karate Plus
Ikari Warriors
Impossible Mission 1
International 3D Tennis
Jumpman and Jumpman Junior
Katakis
Laser Squad
Last Ninja 1/2
Lemmings
Little Computer People

Lode Runner 1
Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge
M.U.L.E.
Mad Doctor
Maniac Mansion
Mayhem in Monsterland
Mercenary
Midnight Resistance
Montezuma's Revenge
Myth
Navy Seals
Nebulus
Neuromancer
Nick Faldo's Championship Golf
Operation: Wolf
Paradroid
Park Patrol
The Pawn (Magnetic Scrolls)
Phantasie 3
Pipemania
Pirates! (MicroProse)
Pitstop 2
Platoon
Power Drift
Project Firestart

Project Stealth Fighter (MicroProse)
PSI-5 Trading Company
Rainbow Islands
Rally Speedway
RBI 2
Revs+
Rocket Ranger
Rodland
Sentinel
Shadow of the Beast
Skool Daze
Space Taxi
Speedball 2
Spindizzy
Spy vs. Spy 2
Strike Fleet
Stunt Car Racer
Supremacy
Thrust 1
Times of Lore
Turbo Outrun
Turtles 2
Turrican 1/2
Tusker 2
Ultima 4
Wizball
Zak McKracken
Zork 1/2/3 (A single game divided into 3 parts due to 64K limitation)



HONORABLE MENTIONS
Pre-1984 Arcade Classics: Pac-Man, Crystal Castles, Q-bert, Asteroids, Space Invaders, Missile Command, Spy Hunter, Gyruss (awesome music!)... all of them look beautiful on the C=64

Happy 20th Birthday Commodore 64!

digitalpress
09-22-2002, 02:01 PM
I'd like to get the list down to 50.

You started at 100 and after much hard work on EZboard we got it down to 60. I'm not putting your old list of 100 back up there, or we'll have to do this all over again!

theaveng
09-22-2002, 04:51 PM
hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

AHEM

Sorry... but you really like to punish yourself don't you? Your last name's not Sade is it? ;-) Over on lemon64 we started with 100 and ended up with 107. There are just too many good games and people refuse to delete any of them.

digitalpress
09-22-2002, 05:18 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

... Lemon ...

This is quite a different place. I have NO PROBLEM deleting things. I like to run a tight ship. 100 is silly-high, regardless of how many good games there are. Think about it. Most magazines do "TOP 100 GAMES OF ALL TIME", regardless of system. Surely we can limit a list of any system to 50 or less.

And if WE can't... I WILL.

theaveng
09-25-2002, 05:33 PM
DELETE:
Barbarian
Batman
Dino Eggs
Glider Rider
Mayhem in Monsterland
Pinball Construction Set
Red Storm Rising
Road Runner
Silent Service
Star Wars

REPLACE:
International Karate with IK+

There you go. 50 games. For a 5000 game system. The top 1%.

ubersaurus
09-25-2002, 06:12 PM
I'd personally replace Batman with The Paranoia Complex...wacky fun game.

ROBOTRON
11-13-2002, 10:55 PM
Wavy Navy
MULE
Archon
Jumpman
Pogo Joe

Ginger
01-17-2003, 02:51 PM
GOD I hope someone can help me with this!

I'm an old fan of Laser Squad and although I can find plenty of downloads for the original game, I can't find any C64 downloads for the expansion pack with the two extra missions (stardrive and laser platoon).

Laser platoon was the one I spent most of my time playing as the mission brief was simple - KILL EVERYONE!! - Unlike most of the missions, this one had both players on an equal footing with the same resources to play with, which meant it was pretty even and thus relied more on cunning and tactics - if no-one else remembers this mission then you haven't lived. If you do remember, then I got just two words to say to you - ARMOURY DROID!!

Anyway, can anyone helpme in my search for this elusive download?

Much obliged

kainemaxwell
09-25-2004, 10:24 PM
Add Action Biker and the Skyfox games.

Kid Ice
09-26-2004, 12:41 AM
Lose the stinky RPG Times of Lore, add Law of the West.

Lose Ultimate Wizard, add Zorro.

Err, umm...Zork, anyone? Lose Satan's Hollow.

Trade Rambo II for Who Dares Win II.

Lose Legacy of the Ancients, add Phantasie.

Trade Buggy Boy for Super Off Road. The arcade game was better than SOR, but not the C64 version.

FooFighter
09-26-2004, 12:55 AM
Missing 2 R's and an H!!

Rags To Riches (Very unique idea for a game, and fun!)

Raid Over Moscow. I loved this game, short but fun. This was great in the 80's..whipping the Soviets :)

Hardball by Accolade, I loved this one and I havent liked a baseball game since. My friend Paul and I played this for hours.

Nubiandaze
09-26-2004, 08:17 PM
Hey All,
Yes, I agree, 'Law of the West' should be on this greatest c-64 games list. I had so much fun with that game when I was about 14. I also agree 'Archon' should be on the list. And two Melbourne House adventures could be added which are 'Terrormolinos' and 'Hampstead'. Good old Melbourne House! Does anyone remeber these two games?

Regards,

Nubian.

lmacho151
10-02-2004, 11:55 AM
I noticed nobody mentioned the game Cliffhanger. It's my personal fav from the Commodore, and I was wondering if anyone else remembers it.

Ruudos
10-02-2004, 04:08 PM
Micropose Soccer must be on that list. That game is great.
Run the Gauntlet was fun too, just like Duck Tales: The Quest for Gold.

Flack
10-02-2004, 08:02 PM
I've tried doing this before and can't get a Commodore list under 200 games. :) As I've said many times, the Commodore 64 was my major gaming console from about '84-'91, and there were SO many good games for that system it's ridiculous. Finding games that need to be added is easy -- it's removing some that's so hard!!!

Raedon
10-02-2004, 08:19 PM
I've tried doing this before and can't get a Commodore list under 200 games. :) As I've said many times, the Commodore 64 was my major gaming console from about '84-'91, and there were SO many good games for that system it's ridiculous. Finding games that need to be added is easy -- it's removing some that's so hard!!!

Amen Brother!! *DANCES AROUND* the C64 has the largest library of every gaming console on the planet by 10.. but if you look at just the carts.. it's hard to find 20 that kick ass.

Ze_ro
10-03-2004, 04:41 AM
Here's some that I would add:

Ultima 3 and 5 (although 4 was the best, 3 and 5 are still amazing)
Pretty much all the SSI Gold Box AD&D games, especially Curse of the Azure Bonds and Pools of Radiance
Alter Ego (One of these days, The Sims will catch up with Alter Ego...)
California Games
The Legend of Blacksilver
Star Control (The sequel (which never hit the C64) really overshadows the original, but it's still an excellent action/strategy game)
Gateway to Apshai / Temple of Apshai
Archon & Archon II (Am I the only one who REALLY liked the sequel)
Mail Order Monsters (remember when EA used to be good?)
Friday the 13th
all the Dizzy games (Well, *I* liked them anyways)
Below the Root
Pharaoh's Curse
Maniac Mansion
Zak McKracken
Crossroads (This was a Compute!'s Gazette type-in game, but I absolutely loved it. Try it if you find it!)
Head Over Heels
Spelunker
Ghostbusters
Deceptor
One On One
Psi-5 Trading Company
The Goonies
Conan
Mainframe
Tag Team Wrestling
Montezuma's Revenge
Up 'n' Down
Robot Rascals (This one is geared towards kids, but trust me, it's excellent)
Floyd of the Jungle
Portal (Actually, I never figured this one out myself, but I always got the feeling that this one never got the attention that it probably should have)

I also think the lack of Infocom titles is a glaring omission! I wasn't the biggest fan of theirs, since my short attention span makes interactive fiction games a little too much for me, but Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Leather Goddesses of Phobos, Planetfall, and a number of others were definitely well done.


I noticed nobody mentioned the game Cliffhanger. It's my personal fav from the Commodore, and I was wondering if anyone else remembers it.
Indeed, I remember this one quite well, and played it quite a bit myself. Not sure if I'd include it in my top-100 though... after you get past the first level, things just get ridiculous, with non-sensical deaths and near-impossible timing on a lot of the scenes. That, and the rather messed up control (try walking up to a cliff edge, then try to walk away, and most of the time your guy will just keep walking off the edge!) kind of screw up a game that otherwise might have been excellent.

--Zero

Cauterize
10-03-2004, 05:39 AM
Count Duckula!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!