View Full Version : Atari Founder Proclaims the End of Gaming Piracy [Slashdot]
DP ServBot
05-26-2008, 07:34 PM
OMGZombies writes "Speaking on a conference held yesterday in New York, the Atari founder Nolan Bushnell said that a new stealth encryption chip called TPM will 'absolutely stop piracy of gameplay'. The chip is apparently being embedded on most of the new computer motherboards and is said to be 'uncrackable by people on the internet and by giving away passwords' though it won't stop movie or music piracy, since 'if you can watch it and you can hear it, you can copy it.'"http://games.slashdot.org/slashdot-it.pl?from=rss&op=image&style=h0&sid=08/05/26/153222 (http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/26/153222&from=rss)
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Ze_ro
05-26-2008, 11:25 PM
Good luck with that there, Nolan.
--Zero
diskoboy
05-26-2008, 11:29 PM
Ah, the old "Build a better mousetrap" bit....
I give it 5 months before it's cracked/bypassed.
swlovinist
05-26-2008, 11:32 PM
all hackers need is a challenge...they will find a way around it as always. They always have and always will.
Atari 5200
05-26-2008, 11:37 PM
all hackers need is a challenge...they will find a way around it as always. They always have and always will.
Yeah, nothing is uncrackable.
Frankie_Says_Relax
05-26-2008, 11:40 PM
After making that statement, Nolan Bushnell, fully nude (except for his signature pipe) walked away, returned to the ocean from which he emerged ... swam out to sea and submerged not to be heard from again ...
http://blog.wired.com/games/images/2007/10/22/bushnell214.jpg
... a reporter on the scene snapped this photo right before Mr. Bushnell disappeared from sight.
diskoboy
05-27-2008, 12:18 AM
After making that statement, Nolan Bushnell, fully nude (except for his signature pipe) walked away, returned to the ocean from which he emerged ... swam out to sea and submerged not to be heard from again ...
http://blog.wired.com/games/images/2007/10/22/bushnell214.jpg
... a reporter on the scene snapped this photo right before Mr. Bushnell disappeared from sight.
I often wonder what's actually IN that pipe of his....
otoko
05-27-2008, 12:32 AM
Who wants to make a list of "uncrackable things" then list how many of those have been cracked?
theghostlyguitarplayer
05-27-2008, 01:35 AM
Didn't they say something similar about Titanic?
-Adam-
Kuros
05-27-2008, 03:21 AM
I often wonder what's actually IN that pipe of his....
Considering the quote he made... weed.
Gapporin
05-27-2008, 04:09 AM
I'm sure the comparison has already been made somewhere, but anyways, that picture of Nolan always reminds me of this:
http://blog.wired.com/games/images/2007/10/22/bushnell214.jpghttp://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3382/gortonsfishermanjn1.jpg
DeputyMoniker
05-27-2008, 04:32 AM
Yeah, nothing is uncrackable.
Nolan said game piracy is over. That's as official as it gets.
Nolan said game piracy is over. That's as official as it gets.
NOTHING CAN DEFEAT THE INTERNETS!
Oobgarm
05-27-2008, 06:25 AM
So if this is implemented...
Does that mean everyone will HAVE to upgrade their machines since games will look for the new chip?
I'd be more pissed about that, honestly.
DeputyMoniker
05-27-2008, 06:43 AM
So if this is implemented...
Does that mean everyone will HAVE to upgrade their machines since games will look for the new chip?
I'd be more pissed about that, honestly.
Especially considering the number of people who upgraded to Dual Core and Vista for DirectX 10. Bad time to be a PC gamer!! It's a pretty general rule that it is never a good time to buy a new PC but the last couple years have been hell on PC gamers.
kaedesdisciple
05-27-2008, 08:52 AM
Methinks ol' Nolan is hanging out with Todd Bishop a bit too much.
Slate
05-27-2008, 09:49 AM
I'm sure the comparison has already been made somewhere, but anyways, that picture of Nolan always reminds me of this:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3382/gortonsfishermanjn1.jpg
Where did you get that picture? That reminds me of a movie I saw when I was 5 and I can't find out the name of it! It involved a girl killing the whole family and she was going to blow up the house with bombs. There was also an old guy in a boat who looked similar to the one in that picture you posted, he was even wearing the same color of a raincoat.
Sorry for going OT.
Ed Oscuro
05-27-2008, 10:39 AM
Who wants to make a list of "uncrackable things" then list how many of those have been cracked?
Not Nolan's pipe, certainly.
Where did you get that picture? That reminds me of a movie I saw when I was 5 and I can't find out the name of it! It involved a girl killing the whole family and she was going to blow up the house with bombs. There was also an old guy in a boat who looked similar to the one in that picture you posted, he was even wearing the same color of a raincoat.
Sorry for going OT.
Gordon's, manufacturer of the renowned fish-like-sticks.
scooterb23
05-27-2008, 11:22 AM
Sooo...they aren't going to make games anymore? I have a feeling that will be the only way to end gaming piracy.
XYXZYZ
05-27-2008, 12:15 PM
Where did you get that picture? That reminds me of a movie I saw when I was 5 and I can't find out the name of it! It involved a girl killing the whole family and she was going to blow up the house with bombs. There was also an old guy in a boat who looked similar to the one in that picture you posted, he was even wearing the same color of a raincoat.
Sorry for going OT.
I think it's Capn' Gorton, of Gorton's Tasty Fishsticks Inc. I really like Gorton's grilled talapia fillets with garlic butter myself.
http://www.hungry-girl.com/sectionimg/901gortons.jpg
XYXZYZ
05-27-2008, 12:58 PM
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/seankenney/Sculpture/Gortons/10.jpg
misfits859
05-27-2008, 04:55 PM
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/seankenney/Sculpture/Gortons/10.jpg
I'm craving fish sticks all of a sudden...:puke:
Gapporin
05-27-2008, 05:22 PM
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/seankenney/Sculpture/Gortons/10.jpg
Okay, okay, now it's time to steer this thread back on-topic...
*rimshot*
rbudrick
05-27-2008, 06:02 PM
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/seankenney/Sculpture/Gortons/10.jpg
No, no, no, no NO!
FUCK!
-Rob
DKTheArcadeRat
05-27-2008, 06:27 PM
Yeah, nothing is uncrackable.
https://www.ironkey.com/
unless somebody has gotten into that, I'd have to say that statement is false.
Ed Oscuro
05-27-2008, 07:15 PM
https://www.ironkey.com/
unless somebody has gotten into that, I'd have to say that statement is false.
Two seconds in Google:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/13/1230223
Yeah thanks next please
DKTheArcadeRat
05-27-2008, 07:40 PM
Does that one use the exact same stuff? I'm pretty sure they are slightly different.
Ed Oscuro
05-27-2008, 08:32 PM
Enjoy trusting your security to "a slight difference," then.
That's getting off topic, though, and pointless anyway.
There is no way that I know of that an un-piratable system is possible. The TPM chip just provides a gubbins and a secret code, but with direct access it can be defeated, and while we can't get Fire Shark sound emulation in MAME 'cuz of a security-protected sound chip, somebody out there probably could make a lot of money on defeating the TPM.
The closest thing to an un-piratable system I can think of would have to have two elements:
1.) It would stream everything from a distance
2.) Signal interception detection technology would have to be employed to make sure that nothing is being leeched off the access point/ console (but as with the TPM, I don't see how that's possible, because the pirate can access a console's interior)
And then, if you defeat all software pirates, there's the matter of fraud - credit card fraud, you name it. It's still technically piracy, now, isn't it?
tl;dr People attacking a nice guy because he made a rather insignificant exaggeration that will amuse some investors ITT
Chuplayer
05-27-2008, 09:23 PM
This dude's still alive?
Ed Oscuro
05-27-2008, 10:37 PM
This dude's still alive?
Ralph Baer too!