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Overbite
06-05-2008, 04:14 PM
And for some reason it's JASON HALL (hes hueg like a minotaur) is playing it.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53010

It's only a few clips, but it has the same weapons including the shrink ray!

THE GAME IS REAL YOU GUYS IT WILL COME OUT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Always bet on Duke.

Lady Jaye
06-05-2008, 04:38 PM
That means nothing. Plenty of cancelled games exist in demo or incomplete form, so it's not like it's an actual game beta or something like that.

zemmix
06-05-2008, 04:39 PM
When is Duke 3D coming to the XBLA? I remember they confirmed it like in Febuary or March. I think I'm more interested in that to be honest.

Ed Oscuro
06-05-2008, 04:42 PM
I saw people playing the original Prey version, too.

Glad for this though - the ripper looks as classy as ever, and now with chrome-plated action. Hope it gets smoke fouling on the barrel... :P

diskoboy
06-05-2008, 04:58 PM
When I see it on shelves is when I'll start caring.

And even then, it' still not bloody likely.

Sudo
06-05-2008, 04:59 PM
I still say it's never coming out.

exit
06-05-2008, 05:01 PM
Wasn't there gameplay footage for previous versions of DNF? This really means nothing until there's an actual playable demo released and an actual game released sometime later.

roushimsx
06-05-2008, 05:42 PM
Jason Hall is a fucking beast. God damn. I love seeing photos/videos of him standing by mere mortals. He could have single handedly taken down that whole damn dev studio if he wanted to. I'm still bummed that he left Monolith...they made some of the best first person shooters of the last decade. I dig the format of his new show. Hmm, time to shoot him some stalkerish, homoerotic fanmail.

Duke Nukem Forever looks pretty awesome so far. Can't wait until it's finally in our hands and on our hard drives. Chances are I'll just be buying that sucker on Steam when it finally rolls out and then purchasing a physical copy later.

I mean, shit, I've been waiting for 12+ years for it (hell, I built a new PC just for Duke Nukem 3D back in 1996) and I've got faith in 3DR. They quit whoring out the Duke license because they were tired of the shitty games devaluing the brand name, they farmed Prey out to Human Head (who did a wonderful job with the game), and they did a good job with getting Remedy's Max Payne out there (which itself did wonders for bringing in the monies).

A few months ago I went back through Duke Nukem 3D and it's impressive how well its held up. It's still fun as hell to play, though a bit easier thanks to the way control has evolved. A mouse and keyboard properly configured (or via JonoF's engine port) does wonders for nullifying the difficulty of previously tricky spots.

Kitsune Sniper
06-05-2008, 06:02 PM
I was impressed by this guy's show, it reminded me of the old incite interviews they included with the magazine of the same name.

Only with a ton less boobs. *coughs*

For some reason, though, those thirty seconds or so reminded me A LOT of the Doom III/Quake 4 engine...

Overbite
06-05-2008, 08:32 PM
You guys are haters, Duke Forever is gonna rule.

Me and roushi are gonna be playing it day one while you guys are all "eh i dont believe it weeehhh"

we have balls of steel

briskbc
06-05-2008, 08:54 PM
we have balls of steel

After 10+ years I would think they're rusty.

Overbite
06-05-2008, 08:59 PM
i have balls of stainless steel

ProgrammingAce
06-05-2008, 09:07 PM
i have balls of stainless steel

Still rusts. Besides, after 10 years you'd have blue balls of steel...

Snapple
06-05-2008, 09:14 PM
I still think you guys are gullible. The trailer from 2001 or whenever it was made the game look nearly complete. That didn't mean anything, and this doesn't mean anything.

Richter Belmount
06-05-2008, 10:07 PM
Lame I thought this was gonna be a rickroll , though reichroll is better

RadiantSvgun
06-05-2008, 10:12 PM
When I see it on shelves is when I'll start caring.

As much as I like Duke Nukem, I have to agree.

Steve W
06-05-2008, 10:22 PM
This makes me wonder... how many beta copies and prototypes have these guys churned out over the years? They must have created heaps of demo/proto/incomplete backup copies of this game in all it's many stages throughout the past decade. I wonder if they've got a treasure trove of partially finished versions sitting in a vault there.

diskoboy
06-05-2008, 10:47 PM
You guys are haters, Duke Forever is gonna rule.

We're not haters.

But we've got mighty high expectations, for this game, since we've had to wait a DECADE for the game to even be developed.

This game has to be better than the first 2 Godfathers, and the original Star Wars trilogy, put together, just to put it bluntly..

roushimsx
06-05-2008, 10:54 PM
This makes me wonder... how many beta copies and prototypes have these guys churned out over the years? They must have created heaps of demo/proto/incomplete backup copies of this game in all it's many stages throughout the past decade. I wonder if they've got a treasure trove of partially finished versions sitting in a vault there.

I'm very interested in seeing what they do for a "lameduke" release after the game is actually done. For E3 2001, everything that they had was in that trailer. They didn't have anything resembling a playable game then and their current (and hopefully final!) design revision only really got finalized something like a year or two ago. Since then they've just been building a shit load of content (and hiring on new people to assist).

There's been a high profile departure or two along the way as well, but shit, imagine getting hired by a company 10 years ago and still having absolutely nothing on your resume. Fuck that. At least the guys Romero hired (and then bailed on him because the game was going nowhere) were able to ship two games before he was even able to get Daikatana out the door (though while I enjoyed Kiss Psycho Circus, I'm going to have to say that WWII Normandy was far, far worse than people think Daikatana was).

Man, you know what would kick ass? Anachronox 2. I can't believe no publishers were interested back when Tom was shipping it around as an Xbox title. You Shenmue fans think that YOU have blue balls? Fuck you. Play Anachronox and learn what gaming blue balls are all about. :'(

PapaStu
06-05-2008, 11:46 PM
If thats new footage (which it looks like it is) it feels like a smoother looking PREY. PREY had some good notions to it... then there was its execution. That didn't work for me so well.

Besides it looks like theres some kind of point system with kills as he was using the minigun you could see points pop to the left of the target reticle after a few seconds of blasting.

I won't care unless I can play the game on a home console. I left the ability long ago to play (or want to) play this game w/ keyboard/mouse on a PC.

mnbren05
06-06-2008, 05:52 AM
I agree, I would love to finally have Duke Nukem Forever but I don't want to get my hopes up. I does look like a smoother more high def version of Prey. I wonder if they simply put together a quick demo of Duke Nukem or a sneak preview at Prey 2? Notice the lack of any character visuals or any real sound fx, hmmmm.

Overbite
06-06-2008, 04:47 PM
Why would they put all the duke nukem weapons in prey?

mnbren05
06-06-2008, 06:49 PM
Why wouldn't they?

roushimsx
06-06-2008, 06:53 PM
Why wouldn't they?

Because 3D Realms isn't making a sequel to Prey and Human Head isn't making Duke Nukem Forever?

Push Upstairs
06-06-2008, 10:19 PM
Why would they put all the duke nukem weapons in prey?

Because the pipebombs were tha shit, yo!

But those dynamite packs in "Blood" were just as fun (if not slightly better)


I didn't see the footage because it told me I needed to upgrade flash.

I'm not going to upgrade flash for brief footage of a game I wanted to play *TEN YEARS* ago.

RetroYoungen
06-06-2008, 11:35 PM
I've actually written an article on DN:F with ALL of my thoughts on it, but it hasn't seen the light of day yet... I both need a place to put it, and...

I need to finish it.





<.<


;)

Poofta!
06-07-2008, 12:51 PM
That means nothing. Plenty of cancelled games exist in demo or incomplete form, so it's not like it's an actual game beta or something like that.

stfu seriously.

game has been confirmed several times over that it is coming this holiday season or Q1 09 at the latest.

Lady Jaye
06-07-2008, 02:17 PM
Fuck you. learn some manners, asshole.

That game has been such vaporware that at one point Wired.com refused to include it in its vaporware of the year awards because it kept on being on the list. So, I don't care about ETA dates, as long as the game isn't out, I will remain skeptical of its actual release.

Eggman
06-07-2008, 03:26 PM
stfu seriously.

game has been confirmed several times over that it is coming this holiday season or Q1 09 at the latest.

Considering the slogan on the 3dRealms website has said "Coming "When it's done" from 3D Realms for the PC" for years, you probably shouldn't pull information out of your ass.

Overbite
06-07-2008, 04:57 PM
3d realms sorta kinda backhandidly confirmed they were hoping to ship it late this year, it was on shacknews

of course they didnt go "ITS COMING OUT THIS YEAR FO REALS", but they are hoping for this year

alec006
06-07-2008, 05:07 PM
Duke Nukem Forever...and ever...and ever....and ever,hey as long as i get to kill aliens and..lards not to mention hear "Its time to kick ass and chew bubble gum,and im all out of gum"...then.....i agree with the guy...WTF is taking so long......ow well,least it will all be worth it when it comes out...least i think so...

Push Upstairs
06-07-2008, 10:19 PM
With a game like "Duke Nukem Forever", nothing is certain until the box is on the store shelf.

And none of that Gamestop pre-order crap.

Snapple
01-09-2009, 05:31 PM
And for some reason it's JASON HALL (hes hueg like a minotaur) is playing it.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53010

It's only a few clips, but it has the same weapons including the shrink ray!

THE GAME IS REAL YOU GUYS IT WILL COME OUT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Always bet on Duke.


stfu seriously.

game has been confirmed several times over that it is coming this holiday season or Q1 09 at the latest.


I still think you guys are gullible. The trailer from 2001 or whenever it was made the game look nearly complete. That didn't mean anything, and this doesn't mean anything.

Hey look, 2008 has come and gone. How many gullible people are still holding out for DNF coming out anytime soon? Those who raise your hands, I'd like to sell you some snake oil. It will cure anything that ails you, only $1000 per bottle.

Berserker
01-09-2009, 05:52 PM
At this point, it's more likely that we'll colonize the Sun first.

The 1 2 P
01-09-2009, 06:33 PM
My uncensored porn tapes with Natalie Portman have a better chance of being released than this game. I think we all just need to let it go. The next time theres an update to this game(in 2011 with new flowing-hair mechanic) all the news outlets should completely ignore it.

Tupin
01-09-2009, 06:35 PM
Watch them reveal that this was a publicity stunt, and they really DID finish the game in the late 90's.

SegaAges
01-09-2009, 06:48 PM
So wait, who were the people way back last year that were getting all pissy about this coming out in the holiday season of 2008, Q1 09?

So, uh, you said to have faith, and I did not even post to this because I wanted to believe.

Remember you gullable people, it is DNF, the game that never would.

I do know one fact though, what does DNF stand for in racing games? I beleive it is did not finish. Funny how duke nukem fornever happens to strangely have the same initials.

I know I am stretching at this point, but it is funny

Garry Silljo
01-09-2009, 07:28 PM
Watch them reveal that this was a publicity stunt, and they really DID finish the game in the late 90's.

Pure genious

Overbite
01-09-2009, 09:43 PM
It'll be out this year, bet on it!

The 1 2 P
01-09-2009, 09:45 PM
It'll be out this year, bet on it!

How much do you want to lose.....er, bet?

Push Upstairs
01-09-2009, 10:09 PM
Chinese Democracy - released

Duke Nukem Forever is the only thing left to use as the butt of jokes!

Trumpman
01-10-2009, 08:00 AM
This game has been in development for more than half of my life. I grew up on the Duke Nukem games - my friend and I played the 2d ones for hours on end. When Duke 3D came out, we couldn't believe it. It was the most awesome thing ever. I remember talking about what DNF would be like in middle school and being so excited for it 2001. But seriously, how the @#$% could it actually take this long to make? It's ridiculous. Even if it does come out at some point, there's no way it can live up to 12 years of waiting. I'm over DNF now, even though I'm sure I'll buy it if it comes out this century.

The 1 2 P
01-10-2009, 06:40 PM
I doubt it will ever come out. And even if it does you know it's going to super suck because it took so long and obviously will underperform. This April 3D Realms should announce that this has been the longest running April fools joke ever and let it go at that.

Berserker
01-10-2009, 06:53 PM
It'll be out this year, bet on it!


THE GAME IS REAL YOU GUYS IT WILL COME OUT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Always bet on Duke.

Maybe you should consider calling it quits on this whole "betting" business in general.

Gameguy
01-10-2009, 08:01 PM
Maybe they'll just update the graphics to Duke Nukem 3D and rename it Duke Nukem Forever. It's been so long since most people played it that they might not notice it's the same game. LOL

I still enjoy playing Duke Nukem 3D, that's enough for me.

Jorpho
01-10-2009, 08:20 PM
Maybe they'll just update the graphics to Duke Nukem 3D and rename it Duke Nukem Forever. It's been so long since most people played it that they might not notice it's the same game. LOLI guess you missed the XBLA release, then?

Gameguy
01-10-2009, 08:39 PM
I guess you missed the XBLA release, then?
I wasn't aware of that, I just have it on PC. I don't have XBLA.

Steve W
01-10-2009, 10:23 PM
My uncensored porn tapes with Natalie Portman have a better chance of being released than this game.
PM sent!!!

Iron Draggon
01-11-2009, 09:04 AM
YAWN... even if FPS weren't my least favorite genre, I still wouldn't care about this bullshit excuse to toy with people's anticipations for eternity...

DNF= Do Not Forsee

IF it ever gets released, I'll be among the millions who refuse to buy it, not just because I hate FPS, but because it took so damn long to finish it... let 3DR suffer waiting for a profit from this game as much as they've made their fans suffer waiting for it to be released... teach them a lesson about keeping people waiting for a decade... DNF should've been cancelled by the time its projected release date entered a new millenium... why would anyone want it now? it's more appealing as a novelty than a serious product... the game that took a decade to develop... in stores "soon"... in empty preorder boxes...

LOL

ProgrammingAce
01-11-2009, 11:48 AM
I'm absolutely sure the game *will* come out someday... which makes the whole situation even funnier. What i've always wondered though, where does 3D Realms get the funding to keep paying the programmers? It's not like they're even remotely a large publisher.

SegaAges
01-11-2009, 02:10 PM
They get paid based off of commision, which means they are all on welfare right now trying to finish this game

kupomogli
01-11-2009, 03:38 PM
My uncensored porn tapes with Natalie Portman have a better chance of being released than this game.


PM sent!!!

You can send me those videos as well.

Jorpho
01-11-2009, 04:06 PM
I'm absolutely sure the game *will* come out someday... which makes the whole situation even funnier. What i've always wondered though, where does 3D Realms get the funding to keep paying the programmers? It's not like they're even remotely a large publisher.I reckon they made enough money off of Max Payne, Prey, and even Duke Nukem 3D and older titles to keep their small number of employees going.

And they probably have a few nutty investors with too much money who value their previous projects enough to see it all through.

Snapple
01-16-2009, 08:10 AM
I have no doubts that if the game is ever released (which I am still highly skeptical of), then it will end up being an absolutely awful, horrible game. The "new footage" from a while back where Duke looks like a wooden doll pumping iron, that's how good the game is supposed to look in prerendered scenes? I'll stick with MGS4.

They can't simply remake Duke Nukem and expect it to be called gold. FPSes have come a long way in the last 13 or so years. This tech demo crap doesn't look half as good as what's already out.

The 1 2 P
01-16-2009, 11:15 AM
FPSes have come a long way in the last 13 or so years. This tech demo crap doesn't look half as good as what's already out.

Exactly. This game would have to compete with the Orange Box, Halo series, Crysis series, Farcry series, Doom series and so many other established fps franchises on the pc and consoles. Theres no way in hell this game(if it ever came out) would be better than ALL the fps games we've gotten in the last 5 years.

fishsandwich
01-16-2009, 02:48 PM
Maybe they will license the Crysis engine and start over again.

jb143
01-16-2009, 04:36 PM
Chinese Democracy - released

Duke Nukem Forever is the only thing left to use as the butt of jokes!

So...for it to get released, Dr. Pepper has to promise to give everyone in the U.S. a free soda if it comes out in 2009?

Icarus Moonsight
01-16-2009, 06:10 PM
THE GAME IS REAL YOU GUYS IT WILL COME OUT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Duke is a lie! ;)


At this point, it's more likely that we'll colonize the Sun first.

Toasty! LOL

I think the people working on the game have to subsist on a diet of DNF code. "The Binary Diet. 0 and 1 calorie foods to a less productive you!"

Jorpho
01-16-2009, 08:04 PM
Exactly. This game would have to compete with the Orange Box, Halo series, Crysis series, Farcry series, Doom series and so many other established fps franchises on the pc and consoles. Theres no way in hell this game(if it ever came out) would be better than ALL the fps games we've gotten in the last 5 years.Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be "better" if it offers something vaguely unique and innovative. There's no shortage of grousing about Doom 3 and the Halo series, after all.

And besides, they released Quake 4 for some reason, didn't they?

Sothy
01-16-2009, 11:29 PM
That wasnt jingle cats!

Push Upstairs
01-17-2009, 11:20 AM
So...for it to get released, Dr. Pepper has to promise to give everyone in the U.S. a free soda if it comes out in 2009?

Yes.

But to be consistent, they have the screw up their website when people go to it.

Gameguy
01-17-2009, 07:31 PM
Maybe they'll decide to go the Mega Man 9 route with retro graphics. Maybe they'll have him fight Captain Planet again too. ;)

Behold what I feel Duke Nukem Forever will look like.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1241/dukenukemnr4.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9720/531973duke104superyu6.png
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9594/dukenukem1rd3.png

The 1 2 P
01-17-2009, 08:12 PM
Thats probably what it DOES look like right now:above me:

Iron Draggon
01-18-2009, 04:15 PM
yeah, and everyone will actually have to DOWNGRADE their systems to play it!

Trumpman
01-18-2009, 05:28 PM
Don't hate on the 2d Duke games. I grew up on those games. I kicked Dr. Proton's ass at age 6. It was awesome.

The 1 2 P
01-19-2009, 12:06 AM
Let's just change the name of this game to "Duke Nukem Never" and call it a day.

Daltone
01-19-2009, 05:31 PM
They should just scrap the damn thing, fire everyone and come back in two years with an actual plan for development.

Jorpho
01-19-2009, 09:58 PM
They should just scrap the damn thing, fire everyone and come back in two years with an actual plan for development.But who's to say they haven't already done that multiple times?

bangtango
01-20-2009, 10:32 AM
I doubt it will ever come out. And even if it does you know it's going to super suck because it took so long and obviously will underperform.

The funny thing about this post is that a half-assed game or even a shitty game could have just as easily been released in the late 1990's or 2001/2002. And it would have been forgotten about (or more importantly forgiven) by now.

As a gamer, I don't like to encourage developers and publishers to release shitty games. However, sometimes it is better to get a project over with if it isn't looking good by either cancelling it or just releasing what you have and hoping it sells well enough to pay for the work that went into it.

3D Realms could have done that a long time ago (either cancelled DNF or released a half baked game), went back to the drawing board years ago with a completely different Duke game and redeemed themselves for the previous release.

If this current product ever does get released, though, most review scores aren't going to be remotely fair. If it was released today, a FPS game that had in the pipeline for two-three years will get a certain score from the various publications and web sites it gets a review in. If the exact same game is released today but had a history of development spreading across 12-13 years and all of the pitfalls associated with dragging out a release that long, then I would believe that the scores will be lower.

Unlike some of you, though, I don't find this twelve year delay thing remotely funny given the people involved. If a company is going to become the butt of internet jokes for dragging out a release over ten years, wouldn't most of you rather it be EA?

jcalder8
01-20-2009, 10:55 AM
I agree with bangotango. I think that if they had just pushed out whatever they had the public would have been a lot more forgiving. Then they could have started on the next project and redeemed themselves. At this point no matter how good the game is it will never live up to the hype of 13 years. I do have faith that it will see the light of day at some point.


If a company is going to become the butt of internet jokes for dragging out a release over ten years, wouldn't most of you rather it be EA?
I thought EA was already the butt of most internet jokes.

bangtango
01-20-2009, 01:08 PM
I thought EA was already the butt of most internet jokes.

You have a point there and they are the butt of jokes for a variety of reasons.

However, one of those reasons ISN'T spending 12-13 years working on a single game.

There are a lot of things about EA which give people the perception that they are out of touch.

However.......

1. Triple Play Baseball wasn't working, so EA killed it and went back to the drawing board for MVP Baseball.

2. Madden 96 for PS1 looked like shit compared to Gameday. So EA had three choices. Either delay the game to work on it for a few more months (which would have hindered Madden 97 development), release what they had and get embarrassed in the press or cancel the game & go back to the drawing board for next year. They chose to cancel.

When it comes to a game that is clearly doomed, the majority of developers have the common sense to either kill a project or get it as good as they can (even if that means half assed) within a reasonable amount of time and just release it already.

Who is going to buy Duke Nukem Forever besides a few people on message boards anyway? Most teenagers who get a lot of games and are online with Xbox Live or their PS3 probably think Duke Nukem is a joke anyway (because it is "old") or they've never heard of him.

Jorpho
01-20-2009, 03:28 PM
If it was released today, a FPS game that had in the pipeline for two-three years will get a certain score from the various publications and web sites it gets a review in. If the exact same game is released today but had a history of development spreading across 12-13 years and all of the pitfalls associated with dragging out a release that long, then I would believe that the scores will be lower.
This makes no sense. Why should a reviewer's score be affected at all by a game's development history?

Garry Silljo
01-20-2009, 03:48 PM
This makes no sense. Why should a reviewer's score be affected at all by a game's development history?

It shouldn't, but we all know it still would. Reviewers are human and therefore prone to subconcious discriminations.

bangtango
01-20-2009, 05:58 PM
It shouldn't, but we all know it still would. Reviewers are human and therefore prone to subconcious discriminations.

Exactly. A lot of people reviewing it are going to be thinking about the fact it spent 12-13 years to make. Thus any flaws that crop up in a game like DNF will hurt its final score a lot more than those very same flaws would hurt a game that was developed and released on a more normal schedule. It isn't fair but it happens.

Example:

Say an otherwise top-notch FPS has flawed enemy AI or a flawed checkpoint system. How might your average reviewer address these exact same flaws in a typical FPS versus Duke Nukem Forever?


Regular game:
-"The enemy AI could be a little bit better."
-"The checkpoint system needs some work before the developer thinks about a sequel."


Duke Nukem Forever:
-"The enemy AI is abysmal and might have been acceptable back in the PS1 era, which is when development first began on Duke Nukem Forever."
-"For a game that has been in development for so long, the checkpoint system is completely broken and inexcusable."

Jorpho
01-20-2009, 09:32 PM
I for one would no longer trust a reviewer who made such remarks. I suppose he'd also praise a merely-average game to the skies if he found out that it was only made in a week?

Berserker
01-20-2009, 10:59 PM
I for one would no longer trust a reviewer who made such remarks. I suppose he'd also praise a merely-average game to the skies if he found out that it was only made in a week?

I think that history has shown that when a game reaches a certain level of notoriety by way of a ridiculously long development cycle, it inevitably factors in some way to reviews, if only in the form of reviewers having really high expectations from anticipating the game for so long.

And by "history", I mean Daikatana. Just look back to how that game was reviewed after it was finally released. Now, I don't mean to say that Daikatana was some amazingly awesome game and was treated totally unfairly, but do you honestly think that it would've been panned and condemned as hard and cold and complete as it was, had there not been the history of its development (and its delays) still present in gamers, and consequently in game reviewer's minds?

On the other hand, I'm also of the opinion that the industry of "professional" game reviewing (the kind which is funded by advertising revenue from the same game publishing companies they're supposed to be totally objective and impartial towards) in general doesn't exactly embody the pinnacle of journalistic integrity, and probably doesn't deserve your implicit trust to begin with. Instead, it probably deserves the same kind of trust you give to say, a used car salesman.

Jorpho
01-20-2009, 11:38 PM
And by "history", I mean Daikatana. Just look back to how that game was reviewed after it was finally released. Now, I don't mean to say that Daikatana was some amazingly awesome game and was treated totally unfairly, but do you honestly think that it would've been panned and condemned as hard and cold and complete as it was, had there not been the history of its development (and its delays) still present in gamers, and consequently in game reviewer's minds?I can't say, as I've never played it myself. I have read a seemingly-unbiased analysis or two that suggests it was not at all undeserving of the hatred piled upon it. (At the very least, even Romero himself said the N64 version was total crappe.)

ProgrammingAce
01-21-2009, 12:16 AM
You have to rememner, with daikatana half the problem was the marketing. "John Romero is going to make you his bitch"

Not to mention, when the game shipped, it *didn't work*. You had to apply patch after patch before the game would even start.

Gameguy
01-21-2009, 12:56 AM
This makes no sense. Why should a reviewer's score be affected at all by a game's development history?
Think back to grade school. If you had 3 weeks to do a project, but only did the project(the entire project) the night before it was due, would your teacher go easy on you?

Sure, your project looks pretty good considering it was just thrown together in less than a day, but you still had 3 weeks to do it. If it's not as good as the other projects that were worked on for the same 3 week period, your grade would reflect that.

Duke Nukem Forever has been in development for well over a decade, they chose to throw out what they already had so they could start over. If their game isn't up to par for a game that's had over 10 years to be worked on, there's no need to go easy. There's no set deadline, it better be done exceptionally well without any glitches before they decide to release it.