Best Versions of Early Final Fantasy Games?

[Arkhan]

You could find out what to do with the Floater stone if you talked to people and explored like the game was intending for you to do...

I mean it doesn't spoon feed you colored hint text and bold face keywords like modern RPGs, but.... its an adventure game, and not a very complex one really....

Maybe thats my Ultima-gene talking, but FF1 is a cake walk.

[Jorpho]

You could find out what to do with the Floater stone if you talked to people and explored like the game was intending for you to do...I challenge your assertion, sir. Yes, you can find people telling you about levistones, and you can find people talking about civilizations that became a desert. (Actually, I think the person who mentions that might be talking about an entirely different desert.) But I challenge you to tell me who you can talk to learn that after you get the levistone you're supposed to wander into this unmarked, undistinguished desert.

(I have learned elsewhere that apparently the original NES release spelled this out quite explicitly in the manual.)

[Rickstilwell1]

I challenge your assertion, sir. Yes, you can find people telling you about levistones, and you can find people talking about civilizations that became a desert. (Actually, I think the person who mentions that might be talking about an entirely different desert.) But I challenge you to tell me who you can talk to learn that after you get the levistone you're supposed to wander into this unmarked, undistinguished desert.

(I have learned elsewhere that apparently the original NES release spelled this out quite explicitly in the manual.)

Back in the 80s it seems that lots of NES games left it up to the player to figure things out with guesswork. That's why I like to use walkthroughs from GameFAQs.com on just about any RPG.

[Arkhan]

I challenge your assertion, sir. Yes, you can find people telling you about levistones, and you can find people talking about civilizations that became a desert. (Actually, I think the person who mentions that might be talking about an entirely different desert.) But I challenge you to tell me who you can talk to learn that after you get the levistone you're supposed to wander into this unmarked, undistinguished desert.

(I have learned elsewhere that apparently the original NES release spelled this out quite explicitly in the manual.)

You just answered your own question! :)

It might be my Ultima-fu talking here, and Im not trying to come off as a dick, but it wasn't that bad. I'm used to wandering around piecing things together and winging it. Knowing there were ancient civilizations in deserts, and knowing the Floater makes things float led me to eventually decide to dawdle through the deserts.

I can understand though that if you haven't stumbled through a game like Ultima III or IV before, it could be a bit of a bitch.

[j_factor]

So uh... how is that handled in the remakes?

[Poofta!]

1 & 2 : psp, by far
3: you really only have 2 choices, the DS or the famicom translate
4: id say gba but psx aint bad (or the ds remake)
5: gba i think is your only choice
6: gba (not a fan of the load times on psx)

[kupomogli]

I challenge your assertion, sir. Yes, you can find people telling you about levistones, and you can find people talking about civilizations that became a desert. (Actually, I think the person who mentions that might be talking about an entirely different desert.) But I challenge you to tell me who you can talk to learn that after you get the levistone you're supposed to wander into this unmarked, undistinguished desert.

Go talk to everyone in Elfland after you have the Floater. Challenge ended. I win.

Yeah. Don't know which person it is any longer, but I know that's where it's told. It's been quite awhile since I've talked to anyone in FF that you get an item from or need to give an item to or actually need to talk to. Except the old men at Crescent Lake. I always forget which one gives you the Canoe, somewhere on the bottom half.

*edit*

Well. I decided I'd load up my character which is at the end of the game. Went back to Elfland and found the elf who tells you about the Floater. Looks like after the elf talks about the Floater never changes what he says again. I don't see how it's hard to find. There's only about five towns, two castles, and a dwarf cave that you can explore without the airship. None have very many people. Coneria, Coneria Castle, Provoka, Elfland, Elfland Castle, Melmond, Crescent Lake, and Dwarf Cave.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/kupomogli/FinalFantasyElflandFloater.png

[Arkhan]

but.................now the challenge isn't a challenge because they don't have to explore to find the guy anymore


:2gunfire:

:)

but see that does prove that if you explore and talk to everyone , youll find what you need.


I mean what if you were in the party of Light Warriors. You'd have no Gamefaqs to help you out!

[Wraith Storm]

The NES and PSone versions are the ONLY way to play Final Fantasy 1. I don't understand why everyone likes the GBA and PSP remakes so much.

Granted they are very admirable ports. Excellent updated visuals, beautifully remastered score and extra content galore, but when they touched the magic system is where they ruined the game for me. The D&D style magic system of the original NES outing was and still is one of the most unique and defining features of the game.

When they remade it (GBA and PSP) and gave it a standard M.P. system the game really lost its identity and one of the features that helped set it apart from most other console RPGs. It became less unique and more like every other RPG out there.

[Arkhan]

yes getting rid of Spells Per Day was pretty stupid.

ive heard it argued that "WELL, MP IS THE SAME THING"

well, no it isnt.

1st 2nd 3rd 4th
4/ 4/ 2/ 1


isnt the same as having like 90mp to divide up how you want. Less thought involved. Too easy!


man imagine if FF1 did like Ultima and made you mix your spells yourself and prepare them. That would be one hell of a challenge curve.

[Jorpho]

Go talk to everyone in Elfland after you have the Floater. Challenge ended. I win.Well well. Indeed.


It's been quite awhile since I've talked to anyone in FF that you get an item from or need to give an item to or actually need to talk to.I guess that's the way things were in those days.

[Jorpho]

Ahh, what better way to ring in the new year than to finally put this tedious game to an end? It took a little less than 30 hours and my party was maxed out, blasting through everything with a pair of Judgement Staffs. (I'm guessing those weren't in the original? They allow anyone to cast Flare over and over again without penalty.) The only problem is that my Bestiary is only at 96%.

I have to say that while there was no more brain-bendingly stupid game design after the airship thing, the so-called bonus content is pretty laughable. It had a few amusing bits, but generally it's just level after level of semi-random maps, clearly done without even the consideration given to the main content.

I think I shall go play something fun now before daring to try Final Fantasy II.

[Thrashdance]

I was going to buy FF 2 or 3 from gamereproductions some time soon. Which one of these would you guys suggest?


Of those games, I would recomend 2. I played it for the first time on the playstation origins version which has a way fucked gil earning system that dosnt give as much gil as your supposed to get....but that may be changed in the repro. Great game despite that defect though!

[Rickstilwell1]

The translation for FF2 on gamerepros is crap because it's the original English translation prototype. It is the full game, just not translated well. The FF3 one is of the good translation.

FF3 is pretty nice with your ability to change job classes whenever you want. It may be less story driven but it is still easier to understand than the repro of FF2. Plus the fact that is has no 2D remake.

[EColeman24]

This is a tough one. I love all the Final Fantasy Games since I feel each has its strong points but if I had to choose my favorite between 1-6 I would say 4.

[tomaitheous]

GBA are the lowest on my list. Half res? No thanks. Degraded audio? No thanks. There's almost no reason to even choose the GBA versions anymore.

FF1 on PS1 and PSP. The audio is fantastic and the graphics are great. The PSP one has a little better graphics than the PS1 remake, but the PS1 doesn't have the motion blur like the PSP has - plus I like the style of the graphics more even if they are a little lower res than the PSP one.

[Zoltor]

Ahh, what better way to ring in the new year than to finally put this tedious game to an end? It took a little less than 30 hours and my party was maxed out, blasting through everything with a pair of Judgement Staffs. (I'm guessing those weren't in the original? They allow anyone to cast Flare over and over again without penalty.) The only problem is that my Bestiary is only at 96%.

I have to say that while there was no more brain-bendingly stupid game design after the airship thing, the so-called bonus content is pretty laughable. It had a few amusing bits, but generally it's just level after level of semi-random maps, clearly done without even the consideration given to the main content.

I think I shall go play something fun now before daring to try Final Fantasy II.



Yikes lol, max lv in 30 hours, flare casting staff, boy they sure turned a very good classic into a joke.

PS. There is no design flaw with the Floater/airship, a disgn flaw would be, if they held your hand like modern games.

[pseudonym]

Ahh, what better way to ring in the new year than to finally put this tedious game to an end? It took a little less than 30 hours and my party was maxed out, blasting through everything with a pair of Judgement Staffs. (I'm guessing those weren't in the original? They allow anyone to cast Flare over and over again without penalty.) The only problem is that my Bestiary is only at 96%.

I have to say that while there was no more brain-bendingly stupid game design after the airship thing, the so-called bonus content is pretty laughable. It had a few amusing bits, but generally it's just level after level of semi-random maps, clearly done without even the consideration given to the main content.

I think I shall go play something fun now before daring to try Final Fantasy II.

The first time around is always tedious with RPGs in my opinion. You should try it again without the Judgement Staff and between lvl 18 to lvl 22 or so. It's much more fun than probably crushing every monster and boss you encounter. Just a suggestion.

What monsters don't you have? One is probably Warmech, another is probably the dinosaur-thing close to Lefein (near the Mirage Tower/Sky Castle). Both of them are tough to find unless you know where to look.

If you thought FF1 was tedious, I wouldn't even bother with FF2 unless it's one of the updated ones that fixes some of the problems. The original game is broken.

[kupomogli]

The first time around is always tedious with RPGs in my opinion. You should try it again without the Judgement Staff and between lvl 18 to lvl 22 or so. It's much more fun than probably crushing every monster and boss you encounter. Just a suggestion.

He's talking about Dawn of Souls, not the original so level 18 - 22 wouldn't be possible unless you run from battles and gain no experience most of the game. The levels have also changed so that level 18 - 22 would be around level 40 on DoS.

[pseudonym]

He's talking about Dawn of Souls, not the original so level 18 - 22 wouldn't be possible unless you run from battles and gain no experience most of the game. The levels have also changed so that level 18 - 22 would be around level 40 on DoS.

oh shi-

I need to try DoS out anyway, good to know.

[Pk116]

The originals IMO. Get fan translations for the unreleased ones and maybe hardtype IV.

[kupomogli]

The originals IMO. Get fan translations for the unreleased ones and maybe hardtype IV.

The original FF3 is terrible. FF3 DS is also terrible but atleast it's better than the original. The amount of flaws I could list that aren't on the prior titles in the series.

First off is the battle system. On FF3 the delay between character attacks is pretty high. Just choosing attack for all your actions takes atleast half a minute(possible exaggeration but close.) The characters walk forwards slowly, you choose the action, and then they walk backwards slowly. Repeat this option for four characters. During each attack they walk forward slowly and attack then walk back. Why couldn't they have left it as fast as FF1 and FF2 on the exact same system?

Next is the fact that it's close to the original Dragon Warrior in the amount you have to grind before you can move on to the next area. Or the retarded parts that you have to turn yourself Mini or Frog in order to progress, usually against enemies that are more difficult than the ones that you were previously against. So low defense against stronger enemies, grind or grind to buy better equipment. I don't care about "some" grinding. I'm a fan of anything Dragon Warrior 2 and later, however, when it goes to the large amounts of grinding that FF3 has, that's where it just turns me off.

Last is the classes. FF3 DS fixes it so the classes are somewhat different and they make it so a lot of classes are actually useful, however, in the original, you're probably going to be using a few of the same classes as most classes in the game are completely worthless and exactly the same other than a couple minor differences.

So yeah. FF3 is actually worse than FF11 in my opinion. FF11 has a few things above FF3. Classes are actually different and the game offers more variety.

So, FF3 DS > FF3. By far. Both the original and the DS version suck and is only given any sort of recognition because it has the name Final Fantasy on it.

[GarrettCRW]

The original FF3 is terrible. FF3 DS is also terrible but atleast it's better than the original. The amount of flaws I could list that aren't on the prior titles in the series.

First off is the battle system. On FF3 the delay between character attacks is pretty high. Just choosing attack for all your actions takes atleast half a minute(possible exaggeration but close.) The characters walk forwards slowly, you choose the action, and then they walk backwards slowly. Repeat this option for four characters. During each attack they walk forward slowly and attack then walk back. Why couldn't they have left it as fast as FF1 and FF2 on the exact same system?

Next is the fact that it's close to the original Dragon Warrior in the amount you have to grind before you can move on to the next area. Or the retarded parts that you have to turn yourself Mini or Frog in order to progress, usually against enemies that are more difficult than the ones that you were previously against. So low defense against stronger enemies, grind or grind to buy better equipment. I don't care about "some" grinding. I'm a fan of anything Dragon Warrior 2 and later, however, when it goes to the large amounts of grinding that FF3 has, that's where it just turns me off.

Last is the classes. FF3 DS fixes it so the classes are somewhat different and they make it so a lot of classes are actually useful, however, in the original, you're probably going to be using a few of the same classes as most classes in the game are completely worthless and exactly the same other than a couple minor differences.

So yeah. FF3 is actually worse than FF11 in my opinion. FF11 has a few things above FF3. Classes are actually different and the game offers more variety.

So, FF3 DS > FF3. By far. Both the original and the DS version suck and is only given any sort of recognition because it has the name Final Fantasy on it.

You forgot the part where you complain that the game was made for a Nintendo system.

[badinsults]

The original FF3 is terrible. FF3 DS is also terrible but atleast it's better than the original. The amount of flaws I could list that aren't on the prior titles in the series.

First off is the battle system. On FF3 the delay between character attacks is pretty high. Just choosing attack for all your actions takes atleast half a minute(possible exaggeration but close.) The characters walk forwards slowly, you choose the action, and then they walk backwards slowly. Repeat this option for four characters. During each attack they walk forward slowly and attack then walk back. Why couldn't they have left it as fast as FF1 and FF2 on the exact same system?

Next is the fact that it's close to the original Dragon Warrior in the amount you have to grind before you can move on to the next area. Or the retarded parts that you have to turn yourself Mini or Frog in order to progress, usually against enemies that are more difficult than the ones that you were previously against. So low defense against stronger enemies, grind or grind to buy better equipment. I don't care about "some" grinding. I'm a fan of anything Dragon Warrior 2 and later, however, when it goes to the large amounts of grinding that FF3 has, that's where it just turns me off.

Last is the classes. FF3 DS fixes it so the classes are somewhat different and they make it so a lot of classes are actually useful, however, in the original, you're probably going to be using a few of the same classes as most classes in the game are completely worthless and exactly the same other than a couple minor differences.

So yeah. FF3 is actually worse than FF11 in my opinion. FF11 has a few things above FF3. Classes are actually different and the game offers more variety.

So, FF3 DS > FF3. By far. Both the original and the DS version suck and is only given any sort of recognition because it has the name Final Fantasy on it.

So you played through a game you hated twice on two different systems? Gotcha. I don't think you actually hate it, but rather that you just like complaining, because you obviously have put a lot of time into the game.

As for me, I loved FF3 DS, though I never beat it because the final boss destroyed me very quickly, and I wasn't going to spend the two hours to get to that point again. Probably would have required some grinding to beat, or at the very least some luck. The amount of grinding during most of the game was minimal.

[Emuaust]

So you played through a game you hated twice on two different systems? Gotcha. I don't think you actually hate it, but rather that you just like complaining, because you obviously have put a lot of time into the game.

As for me, I loved FF3 DS, though I never beat it because the final boss destroyed me very quickly, and I wasn't going to spend the two hours to get to that point again. Probably would have required some grinding to beat, or at the very least some luck. The amount of grinding during most of the game was minimal.


Every word of this is true, Kupo you just like to whinge all the time and FF3 DS is great!

[kainemaxwell]

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned saved games as a factor. That was the absolute deciding point for me, and the reason I never finished FF1 on NES. When you have to either find an inn or have a tent handy to save, the game feels brutal.
The trip out and after the Marsh Cave was especially brutal in the nes FF1.

[Ravenswood]

I really like the original version of Final Fantasy III. I haven't played the DS version yet, but if I pick up a DS this year that might change. I also have to give it respect for setting the stage for Final Fantasy V, my personal favorite FF game.

[Pk116]

I love the old Final Fantasy games. They're not computer RPGs, they're not console RPGs, they're something in between, and that's what I love. That's why I would never play a remake of them. A remake is just another tool for the completist to get another notch in his belt, his 100% for the the Final Fantasy series. Of course it's going to be tedious if you're doing something you don't like. The original experience is always going to be the richest, it's just a question if you want the *experience* or not. If you want the notch in your belt then get the remake.

Also if you're stomping on everything in FF1 then no wonder it was tedious for you, how long did you spend leveling up? You're supposed to barely scrape by a lot of things, scorpions, wizards, gas dragons, those things are crazy! Also those ghouls on the overworld that paralyze your whole party, you crushed them?

FF2 isn't broken, it's obviously designed to be more realistic. Your mages who never take a scratch in battle... they're going crumple up like paper when a boss hits them... your mages using a freaking battleaxe half the dungeon and saving all their good spells for the boss...they're going to be out of practice. It's pretty realistic. Again if you're playing for a notch in your belt you won't like it cause it'll screw you over. But it's a rich experience and probably the reason we have the SaGa games (FF Legend, Romancing SaGa, SaGa Frontier).

[scottw182]

My preferences:

FFI - GBA
FFII - GBA
FFIII - NES fan translation
FFIV - GBA
FFV - haven't played yet, but based on what I've heard, GBA
FFVI - GBA

Yes, I'm a big supporter of the GBA versions. Portability is a big plus for me. I'm not a fan of the 3D graphics in III or IV, so that's why you don't see either of those on there. I don't have a PSP and thus, haven't played the PSP versions of I and II, so I can't comment on those. I don't like the extra load times of the PS versions, that's why none of those are there. (However, somebody mentioned there were no load times in FFIV on PS. It's been several years since I played it, but I thought I remembered load times. Regardless, I still like the GBA version more for reasons I'll state below.)

Considering all those things, it pretty much just comes down to the original versus the GBA version for everything except III.

I like all of the updates they did to I & II, particularly the graphics. Since I started with FFIV, it's really hard for me to go back and play the NES versions of I and II, they just feel so crappy.

IV catches a lot of crap, but I really love the Advance version. The updated graphics looked great. I didn't have any problem with the sound, didn't really notice a difference. The bugs in the battle system didn't bother me; when I played it, it had been at least 2 or 3 years since I had played the SNES version and I barely noticed a difference other than some oddities here and there. Most importantly though, the additional content of the GBA version is what sells me. Being able to use all of the temporary characters again at the end, plus the 2 extra dungeons are incredible! So worth it!

For FFVI, I haven't played the GBA version yet, but based on what I've heard, I'm sure I'll like the GBA version more, since it's portable and has some additional content.

[Jorpho]

Also if you're stomping on everything in FF1 then no wonder it was tedious for you, how long did you spend leveling up? You're supposed to barely scrape by a lot of things, scorpions, wizards, gas dragons, those things are crazy! Also those ghouls on the overworld that paralyze your whole party, you crushed them?By the end everyone in my party had a ribbon (or the equivalent), but even before then status effects were vanishingly unlikely to occur.

One thing that really threw me was that the order in which the party members attacked never seemed to be constant. I can understand that much of the strategy of the original revolved around making sure that your party members didn't attack empty space, but it seems you couldn't strategize around that in Dawn of Souls even if you wanted to.

[kupomogli]

Every word of this is true, Kupo you just like to whinge all the time and FF3 DS is great!

FF4 DS is great. FF3 DS sucks. But choose any SNES version or the PSX version of FF4 for the best experience. I've already posted on here about every revision of the series, but yeah.

[GarrettCRW]

*shoves a pacifier in kupomogli's mouth*

[badinsults]

"It stinks! It stinks! It stinks!"

"Yes, Mr. Sherman, everything stinks."

[kupomogli]

*shoves a pacifier in kupomogli's mouth*

I just don't like the Wii or Nintendo as a company(now.) I have just as many DS games as I have for my PSP and more NES games than any other system except PS2 and PSX.

[GarrettCRW]

My post has less to do with your Wii hate than you CONSTANTLY BITCHING AND MOANING.

*shoves the pacifier back in*

[NayusDante]

I just don't like the Wii or Nintendo as a company(now.) I have just as many DS games as I have for my PSP and more NES games than any other system except PS2 and PSX.

Just tone it down, man. You're not helping your image when you counterpoint things. You don't HAVE to respond to anything people say about you. You stated your opinion in one post, it should be clear enough there not to spill into another.

And if you respond to or quote THIS, then I'll be genuinely concerned about your self-control.

[kupomogli]

Not constant. It's 50/50. The discussion is about best versions of the FF games. In this same thread I've praised the original FF because it's a great game and FF2 because it's fairly good.

I've even told Jorpho exactly who to talk to in the original FF to find out where to go once you find the Floater in order to get the Airship. Obviously defending the game since it's one of my favorite FF titles.

[Arkhan]

So yeah. FF3 is actually worse than FF11 in my opinion. FF11 has a few things above FF3. Classes are actually different and the game offers more variety.

I really hope you typoed and didnt just compare an NES game to an MMO. Thats banworthy.



So, FF3 DS > FF3. By far. Both the original and the DS version suck and is only given any sort of recognition because it has the name Final Fantasy on it.

I think it would have be given recognition had it not been a Final Fantasy game. Your complaints about the game are prissy, high maintenance and or cry-baby in nature.

Oh, and you might have enjoyed FF3 on NES more if you played it when it was new, but you didn't. Take what you can get. Stop whining.

[Ricochet]

FF Chronicles really disappoints me; I guess snagging it for 99 cents should have been the first warning. You gotta really screw up to make something like Chrono Trigger unplayable. And I mean unplayable; it literally takes 10 seconds for the status screen to load. Maybe it's the ADHD but I'm the sort of person who is near-constantly pressing the status button to check on things.

FFIV's loading was not "as bad", relatively, but there's still so many unconsicous differences in playing this off of CD that I can't get into it. It just doesn't feel right. As the first 16-bit title, FFIV is the most SNES-y of them all, and my sacrilege alarms approach emergency level if there isn't that boxy gray monument of a cart rising like an obelisk between myself and the television.

I guess what I'm saying is, PSX destroyed video gaming.

[Arkhan]

I dont know what they were smokin when they ported chronotrigger.

It is THE slowest loading game i have ever played on PSX.

It doesn't even really make sense why it loads so slow.

even the battle system takes forever.

The only reason I played through it on the PSX was to see all the anime cutscenes, and they were barely worth it!

[NayusDante]

I dont know what they were smokin when they ported chronotrigger.

It is THE slowest loading game i have ever played on PSX.

It doesn't even really make sense why it loads so slow.

even the battle system takes forever.

The only reason I played through it on the PSX was to see all the anime cutscenes, and they were barely worth it!

This is why I love the DS port so much. It has everything the PSX port added and more, but none of the load times.

[scottw182]

This is why I love the DS port so much. It has everything the PSX port added and more, but none of the load times.

What was added? I've only played the SNES version.

[NayusDante]

They added the monster raising thing, which is kinda neat. There's a few new dungeons as well. There's also yet another ending, which I haven't seen yet (need to get around to that...). Audio is closer to the SNES version.

[kupomogli]

The DS game probably doesn't have that awesome bonus area that Chronicles has though. The bonus portion had pretty much every map in the game you could view, every piece of equipment, tech, music(including unreleased,) ending(description only,) movie, enemy, etc. I thought that it was a pretty awesome extra.

It sucks that FF6 didn't receive a bonus as closely detailed as the Chrono Trigger one. Even though Anthology came out first, you could only watch all the movies, arena items, and enemy stats.


FFIV's loading was not "as bad", relatively, but there's still so many unconsicous differences in playing this off of CD that I can't get into it. It just doesn't feel right. As the first 16-bit title, FFIV is the most SNES-y of them all, and my sacrilege alarms approach emergency level if there isn't that boxy gray monument of a cart rising like an obelisk between myself and the television.

The Playstation versions of each title shouldn't even be considered in comparison to the others except for FF4 where the game actually had the same loading as the SNES title. FF4 for PSX is also the only official hard type release. Super Famicom hardtype or FF4 on Chronicles really has no differences besides from who translated it so choose whichever you like.

The only flaw with FF4 for PSX was with those terrible movies. Coming from the same company who created the amazing FF5 and FF6 CG videos why did FF4 receive such crap? Possibly the worst CG video I've seen on the PSX.

[Peonpiate]

Ive played FF4,5 and 6 on a real SNES and owned them since 95 or so, and I also own the Psx anthology disc. With that said, the SNES originals is the way to go without a doubt.

The anthology releases on Psx had some major issues with FF6 that i couldnt stand. For one - Load times! They are longer than the battle loadtimes for FF7, and are just to long for a game of this type. FF6's flow is broken by them and square seemed to rush it out and not give a hoot about lowering the loading. FF5 on the other hand loaded relatively quickly and im guessing its down to the simpler graghics that makes it that way.

Another problem is the sound and music. Those are the biggies for FF6, I feel that 6 had the best music of a final fantasy game and they used music to make up for no speech to an extent to get a feeling for the characters in the scenes...Well the anthology butchered the tunes. FF5 again, came out better but still not up to par with the snes.

Also, in the character menu for 6 and in the battles themselves....it just feels really laggy. As though the framerate is stuttering. Snes does not have this issue.

The GBA release is ok but the music is still butchered. So for FF6 i would stick with the Snes original...FF5 is ok on anthology, its just a tad worse in music.

As for 4, the gba release is rather bad imo...for the same reasons as 6 on anthology. Bad music and sound, bad framerate. FF4 on anthology also suffers from neutered music, framerate is ok.

Why they cant manage to get solid ports of these games out i dont know but theres still nothing better than the originals, if only for the music quality of the SNES releases, steady framerate and overall quality that they were made with.

Yep i played them to much haha.

imo.

[Borman]

Im a fan of the Wonderswan Color versions of most of the early stuff. Japanese or not.

[NayusDante]

It wasn't Square that rushed out the PSX ports, it was Tose Ltd. They're a game development outsourcing company, and they've done nearly all of the FF ports.

I do believe CTDS has MOST of the extras you mention, Kupo. I'm not going to say all, but I know it has a menu to view things like bestiary completion, items found, cinematics, ending descriptions, etc. If it weren't for the ever so slight audio differences (could be my imagination) and the reduced resolution (again, could just be me), I'd say it's a truly perfect port.

[Jorpho]

FF4 for PSX is also the only official hard type release.Is FF4 GBA hard type or not? I've never been clear on that.

[Arkhan]

Dont know but the FF4 on GBA has alot of input latency. Its kind of depressing.

[NayusDante]

Dont know but the FF4 on GBA has alot of input latency. Its kind of depressing.

I heard a report that this was fixed in the European release, but this certainly bothered me.

[Arkhan]

Too bad Europe has nothing to do with me over here in USA.

:(

The sluggish menus really made the game kind of annoying to play. Im used to flying through the menus (FF4 is my favorite FF game so I play it way too much).

on the gba one you try to do that and click the wrong crap.

annoyance ensues, followed by saying screw it and turning the game off

[kupomogli]

I heard a report that this was fixed in the European release, but this certainly bothered me.

The insane amount of lag with spells was fixed but there is more menu lag. The US version is actually better because lag during spells and attacks are much better than lag when choosing options in battle. No GBA version is worth it though. It's too bad because the bonus dungeon was actually better than the FF bonus dungeon with specific character parts. Also all the other characters who joined but didn't die are able to be used(everyone but Tellah.)

[Richter Belmount]

Having played the NES FFI and Dawn of Souls FFI on GBA, I personally liked the original NES version MUCH better.

Sure the GBA version has lots of perks like great graphics, the music was enhanced (I loved it), and tons of extra stuff from the rest of the FF series. But in adding all the extra stuff it seems thay had to re-balance the core game. Some spells that I found crucial in the NES version were pointless in the GBA remake.

All the things they enhanced and added were awesome but as far as the CORE game, I perfer the NES version..

bah Play the psone origins version , much much better.

[Zoltor]

bah Play the psone origins version , much much better.

Yea Origins was pretty good, since they basically stayed true to the original game(It's how remakes should be, damn square, why can't this damned company learn what works, and what doesn't, then work around that). The item collection logs, and such were great additions as well, and don't interfere with the actual game mechanics(these are the good type of additions, adding super OPed crap or what not are bad types of additions to remakes).

[hbkprm]

ff iv on ds

[Wraith Storm]

bah Play the psone origins version , much much better.

Yeah... I need to track another copy down. The one I used to have went missing. :bawling:

But yes, as I said in another part of the thread it is an excellent update from what I remember. It polished everything up without changing the old. I hated Dawn of Souls because it got rid of the "Spells per Day" type system and Origins retains that.

[Arkhan]

removing the spells per day system is like playing Mario 3 with star-mode constantly activated

[pseudonym]

I don't think it was that drastic, but would seem to take a lot of the challenge of out of the game. Being able to constantly cast NUKE/FLARE on enemies instead of having to ration them out removes a key strategy in the original FF1.