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NytroSkull7
06-21-2008, 05:27 PM
Well it comes the time that the newest systems are out with alot of the kinks worked out and i was wondering of the three ( PS3 XBOX360 WII ), in what order should i go about obtaining these and would it be easier to buy used.

THX! ~Nytro

Sudo
06-21-2008, 06:10 PM
Uh, it's really up to you. Get whichever one that has the most games you're interested in.

NytroSkull7
06-21-2008, 09:14 PM
I'm kinda looki toward more of a "you want this console if u like..." because i dont know what the systems have to offer. I would go read reviews on them but i like to here it from tru gamers

jcalder8
06-21-2008, 09:48 PM
You're asking everyone else to do the work for you. Really it comes down to reading reviews and seeing which one has the most games you're interested in, currently and coming out.

diskoboy
06-21-2008, 09:56 PM
Word of advice - Do NOT buy a 360 used.

The newer models seem to be doing better. But the older models, especially the launch models, are ticking time bombs.

It's only a matter of time before it red rings.

EDIT - I have all 3 next-gen consoles. My 360 and PS3 get more play than my Wii does. Infact, my Wii sits there, powered off, 90% of the time. Nintendo is still making good games, but the Wii's 3rd party game support is shit. And after about 3 days, the controllers' novelty wears off.

NytroSkull7
06-21-2008, 09:59 PM
You're asking everyone else to do the work for you. Really it comes down to reading reviews and seeing which one has the most games you're interested in, currently and coming out.

i'm asking 4 an opinion that is all. its not about the games i'll buy what ever looks good after i buy a system. I never buy a system just for a game or two. i wanna know if xbox is the one you feel is appealing to the masses or if wii is what is the revolution of the videogame age. Srry, I dont mean to make it seem like others have to do the work for me. I just like opinions from all sides

thanx diskoboy i knew the first models were bad but i wasn't sure if they had gotten better batches out.

Neil Koch
06-21-2008, 10:17 PM
You're really just asking for a whole can of worms to be opened - just take a look at some of the posts about the Wii to see how batshit people can get about defending their favorite system.

Anyway, I have a Wii and PS3 myself. The Wii is a fine system, but the online play is very blah and the graphics are about the same as a GC, so the PS3 makes a nice addition for more "hardcore" games like GTA4.

The Wii is getting a bit easier to find but still pretty much shoots off of store shelves. One thing to also keep in mind is that it's the cheapest system, but for a fully kitted-out system, you're going to spend a lot on accessories (a Wiimote/Nunchuk combo can run $60-70).

The PS3 is easy to find, if you're not looking for the elusive 60GB model with PS2 backwards compatibility. It is the most expensive of the three consoles, but it does have a Blu Ray player built in, and their online play is free.

I can't really say too much about the 360. I'll probably end up getting one eventually, but the RROD stories put me off for now.

HarroSIN
06-21-2008, 11:15 PM
I'll try to give you a non-biased review, since I own all three consoles:

XBOX 360: The XBOX 360 started out with some severe hardware problems, such as disc scratching and motherboard failures. All units manufactured after August 2007 have had this problem corrected with new mainboards to prevent the "red ring of death." The XBOX 360 has the greatest game library to choose from, with many high-quality titles being published with excellent multiplayer support.

Pros:

Next-generation hardware
Many titles of different genres to choose from.
Excellent online multiplayer support.
Ability to play XBOX 1 games.


Cons:

Previous hardware problems.
Only console without built-in WiFi (wireless internet, adapter costs $100.00).


Playstation 3: This console also makes use of next-generation graphic technology with a slight edge over the XBOX 360. It is also the only console with a built-in Blu-Ray player, which allows games and movies to store up to 50 gigabytes of data (HD video). Unfortunately, it has poor developer backing due to the complexity of the programming needed.

Pros:

Next-generation hardware, including Blu-Ray support.
Good online multiplayer support, with Wi-Fi.
Ability to play Playstation 1 and 2 games (60 and 80 gigabyte models only).


Cons:

Currently, few games to choose from compared to the XBOX 360 and Wii.
Packaged without high-definition/HDMI cables.
Most expensive console compared to the XBOX 360 and Wii.


Wii: Extremely popular with the casual gaming audience, or first time gamers due to the ease of the Wiimote wireless motion controller. Many innovative and unique games with various control methods (Wii Fit pad, Mario Kart wheel). Unfortunately, it uses last generation hardware (comparable to the Playstation 2, circa the year 2000). Many third-party titles are of extreamly poor quality; online play also suffers many problems.

Pros:

Innovative controller, many accessories.
Wi-Fi support.
Many titles to choose from.
Ability to play GameCube games, and download original "classic" titles.


Cons:

Most third-party games are of very, very low quality.
Poor online multiplayer support.
Last generation hardware, meaning games appearing on the 360 or PS3 probably will never show up on the Wii.
Cannot play DVDs.


Whew. In my personal opinion, after reviewing the above (and this is just me), I would choose the XBOX 360. It has more games, excellent online support, and most of the hardware glitces have been solved.

If you really want a Blu-Ray player, or aren't a real hardcore gamer who needs every single "exclusive" release, the Playstation 3 would be a good choice if you can afford it!

Despite the popularity, I'm sorry to say that I cannot recommended the Wii as a next-generation console, unless you fit the criteria above (non-gamer/casual gamer). The Wii is not a BAD system, but Nintendo really needs to rethink the way they are marketing it: they are leaving out the people that made their company a household name through the 80's and 90's.

Although I'm a Nintendo fan before I am a Microsoft or Sony fan, I'm still going to have to go with the XBOX 360, or the Playstation 3 as a second choice.

josekortez
06-21-2008, 11:40 PM
I have a Wii and a 360.

The Wii doesn't get played because I can't find games that hold my interest for more than five minutes.

The 360 doesn't get played because I'm scared it'll shut down all the power in my apartment like my first one did.

Do yourself a favor, and get a PS2. It's not next-gen, but you'll get a lot more enjoyment out of it.

Icarus Moonsight
06-22-2008, 01:50 AM
I can recommend all three for various reasons. The major crux is: If you're not hip with all this new fangled HD razzle-dazzle then I would suggest only Wii since you won't net any benefit from the others. In fact, from what I gather, playing a 360 or PS3 on an SD set is a huge detriment overall.

I myself only own a Wii because I'm not ready or willing for the HD cluster fuck just yet. The other reasons? Well, the 360 makes me nervous and the PS3 doesn't really offer much that the 360 doesn't. That and they both cost a shit-ton of cash that I don't have. Especially when you roll in the purchase of a new HD set (buying the Wii was a major expense and it is obviously the budget console this go). I'll get them when their current fanbase abandons them for the latest next-gen man-boy toybox. I'm fine with waiting. It worked wonders for me when I jumped on an Xbox just 6 months ago. I have spent less than $250 and have a system with two pads, two light guns and about 40 games. Pretty awesome huh? :)

A PS2 for $99 is still the best value overall for a new system. There are still many games at retail and many of the best games can be had in GH iterations for $20 or found used at common frequency. $30 for a used GC can't be beat and an original Xbox is able to be had (again, used) for $40-$50.

Frankie_Says_Relax
06-22-2008, 02:02 AM
I'll try to give you the most concise run-down as possible

PS3 - Awesome multimedia machine, non-proprietary HDD, Free online play, great backwards compatibility (in the case of 20/60/80 Gig models) increasing library of quality exclusives, built in Wi-Fi on 40/60/80 Gig models, built in HDMI on all

Wii - Awesome Nintendo 1st party titles, Wiimote controls (novel/innovative), Virtual Console and Wii Ware libraries have strong appeal, GC Backwards compatibility, built in Wi-Fi

360 - Biggest current-gen library, Best online interface ($50 per year), great library of XBLA games/exclusives/classics, downloadable HD movie/TV rental/purchase

Graphically the 360 and PS3 have the edge with 1080 output on a good number of titles and 720 on just about everything. 360 DOES have some backwards compatibility, but it's VERY spotty, not all models have HDMI built in, and the proprietary HDD sucks big time. Wii is currently going through limited downloadable content storage space growing pains with no solution in sight at the moment, and PS3 of course is STILL the least cost-effective system.

carlcarlson
06-22-2008, 09:45 AM
Everybody else has summed up the pros and cons quite nicely, but for what it's worth, you don't need an HD set to enjoy 360 or ps3 games. It's kind of funny that many of the same people that say "good games are good games, graphics don't matter" are saying that next gen needs to be in HD to be worth it. I love my 360 and play it on a 6 year old set. Sure, I'm planning on buying an HD set in the near future, but I don't feel like my games are lacking right now. However, text can be hard to read, so if you're playing rpgs and are deaf than that can be a problem.

You say you never buy a system for just a game or two, so to me the 360 is the obvious choice. Both the Wii and the PS3 have a handful of great titles, but to me that's all they've got. A month with each system will be all you'll need to play and finish all of the great games.

NytroSkull7
06-22-2008, 10:27 AM
thx for the feedback i love the perspective of more modern gamers and as i suspected 360 seems the more obvious choice, but PS3 didn't do too bad as far as opinions over reviews. I wasn't sure on the Wii and stilled mixed on a choice for when to get it but thanx again for the help.

carlcarlson
06-22-2008, 12:25 PM
... but PS3 didn't do too bad as far as opinions over reviews.

The PS3 is a very nice system, it just doesn't have the game library that the 360 has yet. It's also the most expensive of the bunch which doesn't help. Once the games start rolling in I will definitely be buying one, but right now the only reason I see to own one is Metal Gear Solid 4.

Icarus Moonsight
06-22-2008, 01:06 PM
By the whole "Go Wii if no HD" thing I see it like this. Buying a $400+ console to play on a SD set is likened to slapping value-economy tires and steel wheels on a exotic sports car and calling it "alright". Of course it drives, but really now? LOL

etikette
06-22-2008, 01:10 PM
I'm surprised that no one mentioned the extreme noise the 360 is generating.
Thats really the only thing holding me off from buying one.

Frankie_Says_Relax
06-22-2008, 01:21 PM
I'm surprised that no one mentioned the extreme noise the 360 is generating.
Thats really the only thing holding me off from buying one.

The Wii and PS3 can and often do make lots of noise as well.

etikette
06-22-2008, 02:28 PM
The Wii and PS3 can and often do make lots of noise as well.

Don't know about the PS3 but i noticed that the 360 is way louder than the Wii.
I may be a bit cautious when it comes to loud consoles because i'm only 1-2 meters away from a console while playing (small tv :/).

Can't imagine watching a movie or playing a game with a moderate volume setting on the 360 because i get easily distracted by such things.

I hope Microsoft fixes this problem with the next hardware revision.

Trebuken
06-22-2008, 07:11 PM
Xbox360 for games
PS3 if you have an HDTV, Blu-Ray makes puts it past the 360; IMO.
Wii if you have children or are easily amused.

I would get the X360 or PS3 first and then add a Wii later...

ThoughtBomb
06-22-2008, 08:10 PM
Get a 60gb PS3, buy all 4 Metal Gears, and do nothing more. You'll be just fine. Haha.
Seriously, you need to think about which games are out on each of the systems that would appeal to you the most. If there's one thing I've learned as a universal gamer, it's that it really depends upon one's personal "appetite" for certain games. If your the kind of person who likes to revisit older games or play old games you've never played, while at the same time trying new ones, go for a PS3 or a Wii. The Wii has the largest back catalog of the 3 systems with more coming each day, plus their ever-popular line up of first-party games (Zeldas, Marios, Metroids) that never disappoint. Aside from that & the Wiimote function games and such, there's not much else. If your straight about the newness, go for a 360. It's got the best online setup from what I understand, and it also has an extensive catalog of online retro games and current gen titles as well. My personal fave would have to be the 60gb PS3 I bought used, simply because it's got the double PS/PS2 backward compatibility for the titles I already own, as well as titles I continue to collect for both systems, and of course the library of good games that are beginning to come out for it. I don't take sides, I always tend to go for what's going to entertain me the most. That's what you need to think about firstly.

suckerpunch5
06-22-2008, 10:01 PM
I'm surprised that no one mentioned the extreme noise the 360 is generating.
Thats really the only thing holding me off from buying one.


it's not as loud as my dreamcast!

scooterb23
06-22-2008, 10:33 PM
I'll throw in my 2 cents here...

XBox 360: With XBLA and a nice wide range of disc based games. There's lots of variety. And achievement points are addictive little buggers.

Wii: Just a bunch of fun. Especially great if I'm looking for quicker bursts of gaming. I mean, there's nothing that makes a day get off to a better start than realizing you have 10 minutes before work, and can get a nice game of bowling in. Plus, you have Gamecube BC...so you can play Ribbit King. And if you owna Wii or a Gamecube, and do not own Ribbit King...you're missing out.

PS3: I do not own one, yet. For the kinds of games I enjoy playing most, releases were a little slow, but they are improving. Especially the Ratchet and Clank game, and Uncharted, those look great. Plus I've seen some of the PSN games that look good. So maybe some point this year I may go ahead and pull the trigger. I'd still like to see 3-5 more games that I really want before going forth.

Fuyukaze
06-23-2008, 04:30 AM
If you like a wide selection of great games, I'd recomend going with either the 360 or the Wii. Both have great games.

I'd ignore people who claim the Wii has no good 3rd party support though. I find it hard to believe that with games like No More Heros, Trauma Center, Baroque, Guitar Hero 3, and so many others, it's hard to say those are bad. I sopose you could but if those suck, what does qualify as good then?

As far as order, Wii first, then 360, and once the PS3 gets more then 2-3 great games, that. I realize people will consider me a fanboy, they will if only for my lack of insulting the company for every little thing. I just cant do it. Sitting around and cursing Nintendo for everything under the sun is just silly. It's like blaming microsoft for releasing the 360 when they knew about the RRoD problems or blaming Sony for releasing the first $600 system and expecting people to buy it on name brand alone. Still, of the 3 they are offering the most for the best value. Besides, you buy it and 3-5 games, dont like it, you can always sell it on craigslist or ebay and make a marginal profit.

retrogarden
06-23-2008, 05:10 AM
If you play games with friends, and those friends own Wiis, get a Wii. The multiplayer games in the traditional "gathered around one screen" sense is excellent. Online mode is getting better (though I wish they'd ditch the friend codes :(), as Mario Kart proves.

However, I'd recommend a X360 if you are more into engrossing single player games, with online play (though PS3's online play is getting better) from X-Box Live, you probably don't need to leave the house again.

However, out of both my machines, I play on my Wii more. It's very good for people who enjoy games, but don't have time to play them (I am put off GTA4 by people saying they play for upto 5 hours without getting anywhere. I mean, what's the point?)

Frankie_Says_Relax
06-23-2008, 04:54 PM
While the DP forums have never to my experience been a haven for people with a really exceptional "slant/bias" on which system is "teh bestest", it's really nice to see so many people being able to find positives about all three.

Neil Koch
06-23-2008, 09:03 PM
(I am put off GTA4 by people saying they play for upto 5 hours without getting anywhere. I mean, what's the point?)

That just the way some people play the game, basically going around and causing random mayhem. If anything, you can get through the storyline missions in GTA4 quicker, since you can take taxis to destinations and automatically re-start missions.