PS1 games from the PSN

[monkeychemist]

Does anyone know how SONY decides which PS1 games they re-release on the PSN to play on the PS3? So far there are like 22 and while some are ok, there are many like Suikoden 1 or 2 that would be nice to have for $5.99 instead of the ebay price of $ridiculous$.

[G-Boobie]

Does anyone know how SONY decides which PS1 games they re-release on the PSN to play on the PS3? So far there are like 22 and while some are ok, there are many like Suikoden 1 or 2 that would be nice to have for $5.99 instead of the ebay price of $ridiculous$.

Basically, the answer is: who fucking knows what Sony of America is thinking in regards to PS1 on PSN.

In Japan there are, what, two hundred PS1 games available for download? Some of them are hard to find or highly sought after titles, too. Einhander, Xenogears, Silent Bomber, Rhapsody, Gunners Heaven... Bah.

It's one of two things, I think. One, there are licensing problems that would be expensive or a pain in the ass to work out. I suppose that's possible, but it hasn't stopped Virtual Console or XBLA. Second, SOA doesn't think anyone would buy them, or that they would cut into PS3 and PSN Original sales. Either way, we lose. :(

Sorry. SOA policy is a pet peeve of mine.

[roushimsx]

PS1 games on the US PSN store only wind up there on pure accident. Sony doesn't actually want to put anything up there and the only time stuff does show up is when they have a new guy working on the night shift that accidentally hits the checkbox for "US PSN".

It's impressive how shitty our PS1 selection is compared to the HK or JPN PSN stores.

[heybtbm]

Say what you want about the terrible US selection. We already have the best PS1 game available. I can't describe how cool it is to have SotN on my (non-modded) PSP ready to play anytime or anywhere.

[MegaDrive20XX]

This is arguable by far. Since the Japanese selection is one sexy bitch. A SNK fans dream come true imho. So much Capcom and Square-Enix love. I couldn't argue with games like Ehergiez and BioHazard 2. Not to mention, Hudson Soft showing love, by putting Bloody Roar and a Bomberman game on the JP Network.

Jesus, wtf is Sony doing? Mr. "We don't feel BC is not an important issue". Yet at their E3 press-conference, they are making over 130 games for the PS2? Hypocrites.

There's dollar signs in front of them and they don't care.

[norkusa]

What about available PSX-PSP games? Are those totally separate releases from the PS1 releases, or are those also playable on the PSP as well as the PS3?

[roushimsx]

What about available PSX-PSP games? Are those totally separate releases from the PS1 releases, or are those also playable on the PSP as well as the PS3?

They're all playable on both PSP and PS3. The ones that weren't compatible right off the bat were all updated a while back, thank god.

[monkeychemist]

Thanks for the thoughts. I emailed the SONY customer service asking if we will get a library like the one in Japan. I will keep you updated if they respond.

On a side note, I am so happy I finally got my PS3. What an amazing system! Lucky too because it looks like the current 80gb was the last chance at backwards compatibility...

[G-Boobie]

Thanks for the thoughts. I emailed the SONY customer service asking if we will get a library like the one in Japan. I will keep you updated if they respond.

On a side note, I am so happy I finally got my PS3. What an amazing system! Lucky too because it looks like the current 80gb was the last chance at backwards compatibility...

Don't unplug your PS2 yet, though. There are some compatibility issues with a lot of PS2 games on the 80 gig model.

Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS3_Backwards_incompatible_PS2_and_Playstation_gam es_list) is the list of compatible and incompatible games. You know, I have a 60 gig, and I love it, but I tend to play my PS2 games on a PS2 through component. It's less hassle in the long run.

[norkusa]

You know, I have a 60 gig, and I love it, but I tend to play my PS2 games on a PS2 through component. It's less hassle in the long run.

What do you mean by less hassle? If you have a 60gb PS3, I thought you can just pop in any PS2 game and play it. Or does the PS3 not allow you to play PS1/PS2 games thru a HDMI connection or something weird like that?

[roushimsx]

Or does the PS3 not allow you to play PS1/PS2 games thru a HDMI connection or something weird like that?

No, it lets you, which is the main reason why I prefer to play my games on the PS3 vs on the PS2 with the (crummy) 1st party component cables. There might be a three frame delay, but it's never bothered me (I don't play DDR, Beatmania, Bust a Move, etc). Virtual memory cards kick too much ass for me to not use the hell out of them.

If a game has a lot of loading and such (Hi, Yakuza), I'll install it to my PS2's hard drive and play it from there. Otherwise, it's PS3 all the way for me, baby.

[G-Boobie]

What do you mean by less hassle? If you have a 60gb PS3, I thought you can just pop in any PS2 game and play it. Or does the PS3 not allow you to play PS1/PS2 games thru a HDMI connection or something weird like that?

No, the connections are all fine, it's dealing with the games themselves that causes problems. I've had weird glitch outs and problems loading and saving data on the virtual memory card. That's all.

[monkeychemist]

I looked at the compatibility list for the 80gb system and everything I like has no problems so I'm not worried.

[monkeychemist]

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What a bunch of horseshit! haha

[Fuzzball24]

That just means 'no'.:puppydogeyes:


But, I totally agree that we need better PSX titles on PSN. We have that "X-treme" crap but not Final Fantasy? Ugh.

[monkeychemist]

yea, I would really love to have tactics ogre, the ff games, suikodens and not have to sell me not-yet-born child to play them...

[roushimsx]

But, I totally agree that we need better PSX titles on PSN. We have that "X-treme" crap but not Final Fantasy? Ugh.

Well that's more of Square Enix not wanting to license the titles for the US PSN than anything. I think Konami needs to get on their A-game and start putting more stuff in the queue, though. Symphony of the Night is a great start, but that would be swell if they went ahead and queued up Castlevania Chronicles (beat that Castlevania horse!), the Suikoden games (I never cared for them but I know a lot of people that do), Gradius Gaiden, Poy Poy and/or Poitter's Point 2 (which was superior in every damn way), Metal Gear Solid / VR missions / whatever, Silent Hill, etc.

Metal Gear Solid is on the jpn PSN store but not the US. Chronicles is announced but nothing has materialized yet, and Policenauts is even available on the jpn PSN store. It's a shame that the time and money investment in having a small dedicated team of programmers and writers (more like one programmer, two writers, and a small QA team) translate the game to english specifically for release on PSN is too much... that'd be a real killer app for Kojima fans for all of about a day (until it gets hacked and pirated all over the internet...and you know that'd happen).

But really, Syphon Filter 1 and 3 are on there but no Syphon Filter 2? No Motor Toon Grand Prix 1 or 2 yet? No Omega Boost? No Ridge Racer, Rage Racer, or R4?

Let's hope that when they do add Ridge Racer that it's Ridge Racer Turbo. A selection between that or the original would be nice, but I know I'd only be buying Turbo.

[Nature Boy]

I'm curious as to which games are available in Japan that aren't available here? I honestly have no idea (I don't use the service).

I'm guessing the Syphon Filter 2 thing has to do with it being a multi-disc game. SF3 came in a multi disc case, but was actually only one CD dont' forget!

The other games are likely licensing issues. Sony owns the SF franchise. They don't own Ridge Racer.