Final Fantasy IV Remake for Nintendo DS

[GrandAmChandler]

Anyone play this yet? I for one will be picking this up tomorrow. Circuit City seems to have the best deal, as they are giving away a $10 gift card when you purchase the game.

I love the graphics and mapping system with the DS. Sad that the extra dungeon and Party Customization at the end of the game had been removed from the GBA version, but this looks too sweet, so it makes up for it.

Impressions?

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[c0ldb33r]

AHHA!!! This is what I wanted!

I knew there was a game coming out around the 22nd that I wanted but for the life of me couldn't remember which one.

Great! Thanks! I'll pick this up tomorrow. I'll check if anywhere local has any added bonus/discount :)

[darkhades]

I will be picking this up Wednesday, I am very excited for it, I've been waiting for this for a long time. I haven't played FF IV since it was originally released for the SNES. So I think the story will seem pretty fresh for me when I pick up the remake.

[incubus421]

Meh...honestly I'll be sticking with the original version if I so choose to play it again. I never could and still cannot stand the 3d remakes of these games. I played 5-6 hours into FFIII DS and it felt like a chore the whole way, did not keep me interested in the least. And I loved the original FFIII(J).
Yes, unfortunately for me I think the slickest looking part about FFIV would have to be the box art:
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff4ds/packaging/ff4ds2.jpg

[DDCecil]

I'm 10 hours in, and only at the Tower of Zot. The battles are a lot harder then the original game, most enemies have new attacks, and lots more HP. I'm having a great time so far.

[XYXZYZ]

Aww, dammit! I LOVE FFIV, but I don't own a DS and I hate playing handhelds!:bad-words:

[Lady Jaye]

I don't think I'll get it, if only because I just picked up FF IV Advance last weekend... Unless it's really quite different (aside from the graphics, of course)

[Fear The Turtle]

FF4 DS sure is hard. I've started twice and got game over twice. Damn enemies that can turn you to stone and ambush you.. I'm going to remember to save when I get out of the castle next time I attempt to start this one up again..

[Sudo]

I started playing this earlier today and just beat the Octomammoth so far. I'm liking this remake better than FF III. The graphics overall are better, and the voice acting is actually good, which was a nice surprise. I'm not finding it very difficult at all so far, but maybe that's because I'm so used to the HardType version.

[PapaStu]

Anyone play this yet? I for one will be picking this up tomorrow.
Impressions?

I hear FF IV is FAT HATS. But thats just what i've heard.

Oh and fix your signature!

I'll get this in the not too distant future, but I can almost guarantee that this is going to sit like every other SquareEnix DS game that i've got (which is all US releases), which will be sealed and unplayed.

[boatofcar]

Meh...honestly I'll be sticking with the original version if I so choose to play it again. I never could and still cannot stand the 3d remakes of these games. I played 5-6 hours into FFIII DS and it felt like a chore the whole way, did not keep me interested in the least. And I loved the original FFIII(J).
Yes, unfortunately for me I think the slickest looking part about FFIV would have to be the box art:
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff4ds/packaging/ff4ds2.jpg


Ditto. 3D polygons look nasty on the DS. I played FFIII for about the same time and it bothered me so much I put it down.

[Jisho23]

FF4 DS sure is hard. I've started twice and got game over twice. Damn enemies that can turn you to stone and ambush you.. I'm going to remember to save when I get out of the castle next time I attempt to start this one up again..

Who'd have thought an FF game could be hard?

[mailman187666]

I will be buying this because I loved the FFIII remake quite a bit. I think IV is a better game than III all around mostly IMO, so I'll be headed to Circuit City at lunch time.

[WanganRunner]

Once I'm done with Crisis Core, this is my next Gamefly rental.

It looks good, I really enjoyed FFIII DS.

[heybtbm]

I'm forcing myself to finish FFIII DS before I pick this one up. I'm about 90% of the way through (that is a lot of grinding, let me tell you).

After reading how difficult this new DS version is...I'm wondering if the last boss is now completely impossible. In the history of RPG's, I've never had so much trouble with an end boss than I did with Zeromus (FF Chronicles version of FFIV). I've permently memorized every enemy in that last dungeon. I spent about 10 hours in there leveling up just to have a chance at good ol' Zero. Finally beat him, but I've never gone back. Even when I played through the GBA version, I stopped at the beginning of the last dungeon. There was no way I was going to grind another 10+ hours to defeat one guy. I did it once, that was good enough.

[c0ldb33r]

It'd be neat if it did something special if you had the DS FFIV in the DS slot and the GBA FFIV in the GBA slot. For awhile a lot of DS games did this, why don't more? I love cool unlockables.

I don't really know what it could do though - probably something lame like a music player?

[GrandAmChandler]

It'd be neat if it did something special if you had the DS FFIV in the DS slot and the GBA FFIV in the GBA slot. For awhile a lot of DS games did this, why don't more? I love cool unlockables.

I don't really know what it could do though - probably something lame like a music player?

Or that extra dungeon!

[Fear The Turtle]

Who'd have thought an FF game could be hard?

Heh heh, FF3 DS was pretty hard too but I think this one might be harder. The Mt. Hobs boss just destroyed me.

[c0ldb33r]

I picked this up last week. I just got Yang in my party. I had played it until I got the Auto-Potion augment, used it on Cecil and read in a strat guide that its best to give it to Polom/Parom because of some benefit they give you.

I dunno, the whole augment system seems like a pain in the ass.

I'm digging the game otherwise though.

What do others think of the augment system?

[c0ldb33r]

*** POSSIBLE SPOILERS ***

I need some help. I'm not really used to this whole augment thing and I've run into a problem.

I'm just about to start up Mt. Ordeals. I've got Palom and Porom. I've given the Counter augment to Cecil and the Auto-Potion augment to Porom. I missed the Item Lore one in Kaipo (I forgot to grab it!).

Is there any way I can get back to Kaipo before Palom and Porom "leave the party"? I know that before entering Baron again I can make my way to Myst - is it possible to get from Myst to Kaipo at this point in the game? I really want to given Item Lore to Palom because I've read you get a great augment in return.

Help!

edit: It looks like I may be screwed (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=939425&topic=44683942). Damn. I'll have to restart it (only about 6 hours in). That's not my GameFAQs thread btw, I just checked their forum.

[Blitzwing256]

after you beat the boss at ordeals the curse augment appears, that should give you enough augments to get the bonus you seek , but yeah no way to get back to kaipo at this point. i didn't give any augments to any of the charecters that leave your party (figured it was pointless till I read a faq after beating the game) but remeber you can always do all that stuff on your second play through (yay for new game+) thats what I plan to do at least.

[DragonMaster Sam]

I've had this game for two weeks, and I've had my share of defeats. During a regular battle, Rydia was bumped off by Goblins a couple times, and have lost to Scarmiglion's final form, Cagnazzo, Dark Dragon, Golbez, and Dr. Lugae's final form.

[c0ldb33r]

Oh God I'm lame.

I got item lore, I used my action replay to do it.

I don't feel bad about it, I've purchased this game 4 times (SNES, PSX, GBA and DS) and beaten it so many times that I'm really not in the mood to restart it just for this. I also didn't want to wait until the second playthrough - I'm impatient.

Uggh, I hate using AR though.

[Red Warrior]

Oh God I'm lame.

I got item lore, I used my action replay to do it.

I don't feel bad about it, I've purchased this game 4 times (SNES, PSX, GBA and DS) and beaten it so many times that I'm really not in the mood to restart it just for this. I also didn't want to wait until the second playthrough - I'm impatient.

Uggh, I hate using AR though.

Don't feel bad. You just saved yourself 6 hours of needless repetition. I would've done the same thing. It's like when I recently purchased the FF1 remake on PSP. I felt no guilt whatsoever about utilizing the equipment glitch. I've played through the game SO many times on SO many different formats... not to mention purchasing all those different versions. I knew it was cheating, but for a veteran like me, it was a new way to play. So cheat and LIKE it! You've earned the right.

[badinsults]

Alright, I wonder how other people are doing on this game. I just got to the Tower of Babil in the underground, and I must say that the difficulty is downright brutal. The levels of my characters range between 30 and 37, and I keep getting killed by the group of FlameHounds (they have a tendancy to each cast Scorch, which kills your party even if you are at full HP!) I have played other versions of this game tons, and I feel it is not worth my time to grind, as there aren't that many changes aside from the voiceovers.

[c0ldb33r]

Alright, I wonder how other people are doing on this game. ... I feel it is not worth my time to grind, as there aren't that many changes aside from the voiceovers.
I haven't played it in awhile. If I decide to continue with it, I think I'm going to use the Action Replay again. Originally I just used it to get item lore, but I think that I'll use it to increase the experience modifier to x2 or x4. That way you don't have to grind nearly as much and hopefully it'll be a little more fun.

[Zing]

Wow, this game is not fun?

I am currently playing through the GBA version (just got it a couple weeks ago) and it's great. I have zero desire for this DS remake, but it seems like it would be hard for it to be boring.

[c0ldb33r]

Wow, this game is not fun?

I am currently playing through the GBA version (just got it a couple weeks ago) and it's great. I have zero desire for this DS remake, but it seems like it would be hard for it to be boring.
They've upped the difficulty significantly and reduced the benefits of grinding (less items, money and EXP per battle). Technologically, it's a great version, it's just a little frustrating.

[slip81]

They've upped the difficulty significantly and reduced the benefits of grinding (less items, money and EXP per battle). Technologically, it's a great version, it's just a little frustrating.

this kind of crap just annoys me, why UP the difficulty of a game, thus forcing you to grind more and then, as an extra kick in the nuts, take away what makes grinding tolerable (items, money, exp).

Now, I haven't played this remake yet, but basically I'm gathering that the game makes it so you need to level up more to beat the enemies and bosses, and then knocks down the benefits of grinding so you have to do it 2x, 3x as long? What was wrong with the gameplay balance before, why mess with it?

[badinsults]

They've upped the difficulty significantly and reduced the benefits of grinding (less items, money and EXP per battle). Technologically, it's a great version, it's just a little frustrating.

It's not that they give less experience per battle. It is just that enemies are so much harder, you have to be at a high level to survive. Try tackling the Tower of Babil in the underworld at levels under 35, you can easily get slaughtered by a group of Flame Hounds. It is hard to avoid dying because if all three Flame Hounds use the Scorch spell, none of your characters will survive. Two scorch spells will kill Rydia, Rosa and probably Kain and Yang if they don't have full HP. Usually they cast the spells before you can even cast a Cura spell by Cecil. Your ownly option is to run as soon as you see this fight. Even a Jump move by Kain with the Blizzard Spear cannot kill one by itself. Casting Shiva won't kill them either. Even with an Ice Claw, Yang doesn't do more than 1000 hits on them. I generally try to give it a shot at first and hope that Rosa doesn't die on the first hit and can cast Curaga or something. So yeah, it is very frustrating.

[HYB]

I'm having trouble with the FF3 remake since I hate grinding but I'm still going to get FF4 eventually, maybe in a few days since I've been eyeing it for a few weeks now. We got a game shop where le bf lives that gets the most anticipated releases as US versions so FF4 was available before the EU release. Only problem with that is that one black case is gonna stand out from the white ones.

[Blitzwing256]

well first off, although you can only get one item per battle now, the drop rate has been significantly INCREASED from the original version (rare items still have the same rariity but the common and uncommon items are MUCH easier to drop)

and yeah the game is harder, they made it more of a challenge and changed up what alot of the enemies do, the flamehounds were one hit kills with super weak fire spells in the original, the tower of babil was very easy originaly. i'm personally tired of them dumbing down games when they give them new face lifts (yeah ff1 ff2 and all the dw remakes i'm lookin at you bitches) For fans of the game they really gave us something to enjoy by changing stuff up and making it more of a challenge, espeically for all of us who "mastered" the original. The one gripe I did have ,the gold drop rate was stupidly low making it really dificult to buy anything during most of the game (even inn stays) a minor quip but worth mentioning.


and hey if its too hard for you, theres always the pussy snes us versionn ;-)
just TRY to die in that one ;-)

[HYB]

I got the game two days ago, so far so good. I really like it, and it doesn't seem too hard yet, except if I haven't done enough grinding. Cleared Tower of Zot yesterday, so far Barbariccia has been the only boss to kill me twice. I've gotten a few game overs but it hasn't been nearly as bad as when I started out in FF3. Luckily I never flee if a battle occurs, I'd have to do a lot of grinding otherwise.

Tower of Zot really pissed me off though. Lots of powerful enemies which you run into every two seconds and the save point is really far away. I used a LOT of phoenix downs. My party was around level 33-34 when I first tried Barbariccia, which seemed impossible, 2-3 levels later it was easier than a whole bunch of earlier bosses.

[chrisbid]

i got stuck in the giant of babil. when you grind, fusoya's stats do not rise at all, and becomes easy fodder for enemies in that dungeon. if i can manage to get past this part, i can grind forever with the final lineup.