Every page of every Atari Age, ever. Right here.

[digitalpress]

Thanks again to Scott "superstonic" Stilphen for these scans. A few pages need better scans, I'll get to that.

http://www.digitpress.com/archives/atariage/

Note: this also includes the incredibly rare black and white newsletter style Atari Age's that pre-date the more well-known "Atari Club" style. Like I said, every one, ever.

Enjoy.

[Cafeman]

Well THAT had to be a lot of work.

A big thanks from me; I'll be checking them out over time. Incidentally I got shafted & never received AtariAge magazine for some reason; I did have the one issue with Battlezone on the cover though.

[toddst]

Damn, thanks! I think I just found this weeks bathroom reading (replacing the Onion). Just need to print it out first.

-Todd

[omnedon]

Oooooh Ooooooh! I want to send away for the Atari sunglasses in the first black and white issue's 'Atari Store'.


Stylin! :-D

[Captain Wrong]

Wow! Very nice stuff. I'll have to check this out at work when I'm on the T1.

Excellent resource!

[Videogamerdaryll]

Awesome....Thanks.

[oesiii]

Thanks for the great job guys! I think it's funny how I remembered this magazine as cool and informative back in the day but now its blatant marketing is what strikes me first :)

edit: whoops, made my statement before reading the intro to the mags that says the same thing! Didn't mean to steal the thought ;)

[Keir]

Top of the page says "Activision Patches". :P

Thanks for the scans!

[Arcade Antics]

*applauds*

THANK YOU!!!!

[Gunstarhero]

This is sweet!! :o Thank You :D

[stonic]

Joe did an awesome job of getting them in a manageable size for use online!

For those still using dialup (like myself), I'll be glad to make CD copies for you ($5 - 2 cds and USPS Priority shipping). Contact me at super_stonic@yahoo.com

[DarkSoul]

Hey Joe, is there any chance we might be able to get these in a .zip or somesuch? Not that I don't want to spend time on your beautiful pages, of course, but if I'm just gunna go through and download every page anyway... hehe, might be a timesaver =)

Thanks a lot by the way, these do look absolutely great.

[ManekiNeko]

Somehow, I doubt people will jump at the chance to scan archival copies of Atari Age's sequel, the embarassing Atarian. If ever there was a barometer of the stupidity and desperation of the Tramiels, that would be it.

JR

[Arqueologia_Digital]

Cool scans Joe!

[icbrkr]

Thanks again to Scott "superstonic" Stilphen for these scans. A few pages need better scans, I'll get to that.

http://www.digitpress.com/archives/atariage/

Note: this also includes the incredibly rare black and white newsletter style Atari Age's that pre-date the more well-known "Atari Club" style. Like I said, every one, ever.

Enjoy.

Incredible! I've been wanted to read up on some old video game magazines! Now we just need someone to scan in full mags... Thanks!

Brian

[Atar1G1rl]

I'm naming my next Cat Superstonic!

Thanks! These are fab! :)

[stonic]

Somehow, I doubt people will jump at the chance to scan archival copies of Atari Age's sequel, the embarassing Atarian. JR

Already done. Maybe Joe will put 'em up if there's enough interest in them, but they are included in the 2-CD set (along with some other extras :) )

[ManekiNeko]

These magazines are on Atari Age, too. It didn't take long for them to jump that bandwagon... :/

JR

[AtariAge]

These magazines are on Atari Age, too. It didn't take long for them to jump that bandwagon... :/

We hardly "jumped on the bandwagon", I've been meaning to put these scans on AtariAge for some time, and was inspired by this recent thread (http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25400) (started over a week ago) on our site to actually finally do it. We put high-quality scans of five different magazines (http://www.atariage.com/magazines/) online (with a sixth to come soon), as well as zipped compilations containing even higher-resolution scans.

..Al

[Sniderman]

I don't think there was any "bandwagoning" going on here. I think that - quite by coincidence - both sites were getting AA issues ready for posting. Al's been talking about it for a while now.

Kinda cool actually to see all these retro mags popping up everyplace. Now, if someone wishes to host the entire Elctronic Games library, I'd be forever indebted.

[IntvGene]

Those zips are great... but at 240 Megs for the high-res scans of the Atari Age magazine... Yikes! I'd be downloading all day. :-D

[AtariAge]

Those zips are great... but at 240 Megs for the high-res scans of the Atari Age magazine... Yikes! I'd be downloading all day. :-D

Yes, they are pretty high resolution scans. The zip files containing the low-resolution scans are the same ones that are on the site with the browsable thumbs. The Atari Age high-res scans are 200dpi, which works out to about a size of about 1700 x 2200 per page. :)

..Al

[ManekiNeko]

My mistake, and my apologies.

JR

[stonic]

We hardly "jumped on the bandwagon", I've been meaning to put these scans on AtariAge for some time, and was inspired by this recent thread (started over a week ago) on our site to actually finally do it.

That's a nice story, but there's a little 'inspiration' to it than that. Back in January I sent scans of most of the Atari Age magazines to AA, with the understanding that they would be put online for everyone to use. A few days ago I read the thread (mentioned above) where Albert states they're finally going to put them online, and that he's also is planning on selling CDs of them. I make it quite clear that I did not want him selling copies of them, and I ask him to post that if anyone wanted them to contact me (I even offered them back in January, and directed him to my post - http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18740). Needless to say, my request was ignored.

At this same time, I was making some copies for a few people - one being Joe. He offered to put them online, and within 2 weeks of getting them, did so. 2 days after they go up on DP, AA has their section up. :roll:


We put high-quality scans of five different magazines online (with a sixth to come soon)

Actually 2 magazines and 3 newsletters ;)


as well as zipped compilations containing even higher-resolution scans.

My scans are the same resolution (that I'm offering on CD). And considering how long it took me to scan them in, I suspect their scanners haven't had enough sleep lately :)

[Sauron2k3]

That's a nice story, but there's a little 'inspiration' to it than that. Back in January I sent scans of most of the Atari Age magazines to AA, with the understanding that they would be put online for everyone to use. A few days ago I read the thread (mentioned above) where Albert states they're finally going to put them online, and that he's also is planning on selling CDs of them. I make it quite clear that I did not want him selling copies of them, and I ask him to post that if anyone wanted them to contact me (I even offered them back in January, and directed him to my post - http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18740). Needless to say, my request was ignored.

FWIW, Albert had been telling me for the longest time that he had planned on putting scans up, and had even told me he was working on putting them up once that thread he linked to on AA had started, well before the ones on DP went up.


At this same time, I was making some copies for a few people - one being Joe. He offered to put them online, and within 2 weeks of getting them, did so. 2 days after they go up on DP, AA has their section up. :roll:

Keep rolling your eyes, but it doesn't change facts. I can't tell you what took Albert so long to put them up, although I know he's been busy with a LOT of shit and probably forgot up until recently. However, read above if you're still confused about what exactly inspired him to finally put them up.


Actually 2 magazines and 3 newsletters ;)

Yet another way to shit on Albert's post. Nice.


My scans are the same resolution (that I'm offering on CD). And considering how long it took me to scan them in, I suspect their scanners haven't had enough sleep lately :)

Mine is better than yours! So there! :P

[digitalpress]

Keep it friendly, gentlemen.

By the way, Scott, it didn't take me two WEEKS. You left the CD's here at NJ classic on May 3rd, I noticed them under a pile of beer bottles on the 5th, and by the 6th everything was online.

Mad. Skillz.

[Tempest]

Can't we all just get along? Sigh... :(

Tempest

[stonic]

FWIW, Albert had been telling me for the longest time that he had planned on putting scans up, and had even told me he was working on putting them up once that thread he linked to on AA had started, well before the ones on DP went up.

Um, I already pointed that out (he had originally planned to do that back as early as January). All I'm saying is it's clear that thread wasn't the only motivational factor. People can form their own opinions about it, now that they know the whole story.



Keep rolling your eyes, but it doesn't change facts. I can't tell you what took Albert so long to put them up, although I know he's been busy with a LOT of shit and probably forgot up until recently.

Too busy designing cute AA holiday logos perhaps? :roll:
Everyone is busy with other things.


Yet another way to shit on Albert's post. Nice.

No, just setting the facts straight. A 4 page or so newsletter is not a magazine.


Mine is better than yours! So there! :P

Now that's how you put someone's post down :roll: (<- this one's just for you :D )


Joe: you're right, it was less than a week (!). I was thinking when I made the CDs, which was the week before that.

[Tempest]

Alright break it up, break it up... Do we have to turn this into a sniping match? I can gurantee you that Albert wanted to put up these magazines a long time ago but got sidetracked onto other things as we were discussing this last year. This wasn't a spontaneous "DP has it so we have to have it too" kind of thing. Can't two websites co-exist without having to be at war with each other? :smash: It doesn't have to be an Us vs. Them kind of thing (although that was a really cool game)...


Too busy designing cute AA holiday logos perhaps?

Sounds like someone's jealous... ;)

Tempest

[AtariAge]

That's a nice story, but there's a little 'inspiration' to it than that. Back in January I sent scans of most of the Atari Age magazines to AA, with the understanding that they would be put online for everyone to use. A few days ago I read the thread (mentioned above) where Albert states they're finally going to put them online, and that he's also is planning on selling CDs of them. I make it quite clear that I did not want him selling copies of them, and I ask him to post that if anyone wanted them to contact me (I even offered them back in January, and directed him to my post - http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18740). Needless to say, my request was ignored.

Obviously you have an axe to grind with AtariAge, or you never would have asked me to not "sell" the CDs, which I was going to send to people for $5, which includes shipping (and I will still do this, and it will include *ALL* the magazines in our archive, not just Atari Age). You are implying that I was trying to make a profit from your work, which I clearly explained in an email to you that I was not. After I got your second email, where you re-iterated that I was *NOT* to make copies of the CDs and send them to anyone, I decided I'd rather work with people who are a little less self-serving, and it also turns out that I had higher-resolution scans from someone else. Also, Curt Vendel offered to send me high-resolution scans of Atari Age, since he had scanned them for his website.


At this same time, I was making some copies for a few people - one being Joe. He offered to put them online, and within 2 weeks of getting them, did so. 2 days after they go up on DP, AA has their section up. :roll:

It was only one day after, and if you think A) that I was able to put that entire section up in a single day and that B) it was solely a response to the fact that the magazines were now on DP, you are very sadly mistaken.


My scans are the same resolution (that I'm offering on CD). And considering how long it took me to scan them in, I suspect their scanners haven't had enough sleep lately :)

Your scans are not at the same resolution, they are at about 100dpi, which results in an image size of about 835 x 1075. The high-res images we put on AtariAge for people to download are 200dpi (as I stated in a post above), which results in a typical resolution of about 1700 x 2200 per page.

..Al

[digitalpress]

Is any of this really THAT important to warrant this kind of debate? They're just pictures on the internet, fellas.

Life is too short. I'd recommend grabbing a beer and getting a breath of fresh air. This is petty and not worth this much of your time.

[Tempest]

Is any of this really THAT important to warrant this kind of debate? They're just pictures on the internet, fellas.

Life is too short. I'd recommend grabbing a beer and getting a breath of fresh air. This is petty and not worth this much of your time.

I second that.


Tempest

[stonic]

Obviously you have an axe to grind with AtariAge, or you never would have asked me to not "sell" the CDs, which I was going to send to people for $5, which includes shipping (and I will still do this, and it will include *ALL* the magazines in our archive, not just Atari Age). You are implying that I was trying to make a profit from your work, which I clearly explained in an email to you that I was not.

Yeah, I do, since I had previously offered to make copies for anyone if they wanted them, but rather than remind people of that, you decided to step in and take credit for offering them (after sitting on them for 4 months). I don't care if you planned on giving them away - it was the principle of it. It's not always about making $ you know (or maybe you don't....).


After I got your second email, where you re-iterated that I was *NOT* to make copies of the CDs and send them to anyone, I decided I'd rather work with people who are a little less self-serving.

*I'm* self-serving? You mean like putting my logo on other people's work?


It was only one day after, and if you think A) that I was able to put that entire section up in a single day and that B) it was solely a response to the fact that the magazines were now on DP, you are very sadly mistaken.

I will again restate that I don't think DP being the first to do it was the only reason, but competition can be a very powerful movitator sometimes, right? ;)



Your scans are not at the same resolution, they are at about 100dpi, which results in an image size of about 835 x 1075. The high-res images we put on AtariAge for people to download are 200dpi (as I stated in a post above), which results in a typical resolution of about 1700 x 2200 per page.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're wrong. The pics online were resampled to be smaller, so that it was feasible for people to d/l them, but the originals are 200dpi (with each full-page scan averaging 2.5 - 2.7 meg in size).

[ManekiNeko]

Urgh... I can't help but feel partially responsible for this...

JR

[Thomas Jentzsch]

I second that.
Me too!

[NE146]

I like da h0t ch1x :D

[AtariAge]

Yeah, I do, since I had previously offered to make copies for anyone if they wanted them, but rather than remind people of that, you decided to step in and take credit for offering them (after sitting on them for 4 months). I don't care if you planned on giving them away - it was the principle of it. It's not always about making $ you know (or maybe you don't....).

In the thread where I offered to send people CDs, I also said that I had two sets of CDs and wanted to look through them to see which had the best quality scans. I never said that *I* scanned them, and I sure as hell would have given credit when I ultimately put the CD(s) together. Just as I gave credit on each page of scans in the magazine archive we put online. Let's see,

http://www.atariage.com/magazines/atariage.html

"Thanks to Curt Vendel for contributing these scans."

http://www.atariage.com/magazines/activisions.html

"Thanks to Ken Love for contributing these scans."

http://www.atariage.com/magazines/numbthumb.html

"Thanks to Peter Perpetua III for contributing these scans."

and so forth.


*I'm* self-serving? You mean like putting my logo on other people's work?

Oh, I'm sorry if it offends you that the AtariAge logo happens to be at the top of every single page on the site. Is that any different than the DP logo framed around the scans you gave Joe? Now, if you're talking about the GAMES we are selling in our store, yes, our logo is on many (but not all) of those titles. You know, it takes a lot of time and effort to put together new labels and manuals for games, make arrangements with the various homebrew authors to sell them, put a nice store online, and actually produce the carts and ship them out to people. Our logo is on these titles with the blessing of the individual authors, we are not forcing anyone to include it on their title. Funny, you're the only person I've heard complain about our logo on anything, and seeing as you don't buy anything from our store, your complaint doesn't carry a lot of weight.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're wrong. The pics online were resampled to be smaller, so that it was feasible for people to d/l them, but the originals are 200dpi (with each full-page scan averaging 2.5 - 2.7 meg in size).

Sorry Scott, but your ignorance here in terms of file formats and image manipulation is clearly showing. The original files on the CDs are indeed 100dpi. DPI stands for "dots per inch". Here is an example of one of the images directly from your CD:

http://www.atariage.com/temp/scott/scott_frontcover.BMP

Here is a version I converted to jpg, so it can be viewed in a web browser directly (I did not change the image dimensions):

http://www.atariage.com/temp/scott/scott_frontcover.jpg

This image is 847 x 1099 pixels. The original magazines are 8.5" wide. Divide 8.5" into 847 and you get roughly 100 pixels per inch. That would make the images 100dpi, as I stated in my previous post. Now, you may have scanned the images at 200dpi, but the images on your CDs are clearly 100dpi.

Here is an image from the archive of high-res Atari Age scans on our site:

http://www.atariage.com/temp/scott/atariage_vol1num1_01.jpg

This image is 1692 x 2202. Dividing 8.5" into 1692 gets you roughly 200 (199, but each individual image will be off by a touch depending on how they are cropped). This is a 200dpi image.

You may think that each of your full-page scans weighing in at around 2.5MB in size is impressive, but your files are only this size because you saved them in one of the most inefficient image formats: Windows Bitmap format (BMP). The image I linked to above, scott_frontcover.BMP, is 2.64MB in size. Converting this image to another format, such as PNG, results in a file that is 1.89MB, with no loss in image quality. Using JPG, with a minimal amount of compression results in a file 896K, and compressed a bit more (but still very lightly), results in a file 370K in size and one that is difficult to tell apart from the original. You easily could have fit all your scans onto a single CD.

This will be my last message on this subject.

..Al

[Sniderman]

And since that's the last word, I'll ensure it's the last word. This pissing match officially ends here. No Battlezone. No <shimmy>. No nothing. This has become ridiculous.

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