Surgical Strike - 32X

[classicgaming]

Hi Guys

My first post :)

Every Rarity list says that Surgical Strike for 32X was never released, but right now, I'm not sure

You can check the following picture:

http://www.classicgaming.com.br/images/surgical_strike.jpg

I guess you can change your rarity database, since it's not a rumor mill anymore

Well, thank's for any additional information

[]'s

[alexkidd2000]

Looks like a bad photoshop job to me....

[classicgaming]

Looks like a bad photoshop job to me....

No. I have this game. But it's loose. That's why I dont have more information.

I didn't have time to test it, but I will this weekend.

[Nightwing]

Um - is that the only disc that you have? Because it says on the disc that you'll need disc one in order to play it...

[classicgaming]

Um - is that the only disc that you have? Because it says on the disc that you'll need disc one in order to play it...

No. I have the "Key Disc 1".
Is the Sega-CD version.

[coreys429]

No. I have the "Key Disc 1".
Is the Sega-CD version.

Then Can we see a picture of that then?

[megasdkirby]

Take a video of yourseld playing the game.

A video where you hold it, show it, place it in unit, etc.

A full description.

Otherwise, it will be hard to believe you.

[classicgaming]

Then Can we see a picture of that then?

Yes. no problem

Here it is:
http://www.classicgaming.com.br/images/surgical_strike_1st.jpg

[classicgaming]

Take a video of yourseld playing the game.

A video where you hold it, show it, place it in unit, etc.

A full description.

Otherwise, it will be hard to believe you.


Well... Ok

Here it is:

http://www.classicgaming.com.br/videos/08082008067.mpg

[Vectorman0]

I think it's a prototype because of the "key disc" text, the poor alignment of the 32X text, and the fact it has never surfaced before. I'm going to move this thread to the Prototype forum.

[Vectorman0]

How about this: Since they were going to give away the 32X version to purchasers of the regular Sega CD version, maybe they wanted to prevent people from getting two games for the price of one and giving one copy away for free to someone else, hence requiring the original disc, "Key Disc 1". Who knows.

Where did to get this disc 2 from? (The first disc looks like a normal retail copy of the regular Sega CD version.)

[c2000]

That MPG doesn't work. Anyway why does the Sega-CD disc look so horribly misaligned? Urgh.

[coreys429]

Why Don't you post it on Youtube?

[Rev. Link]

Why does it say "Sega CD" on disc 1, but say "32X CD" on disc 2?

[DreamTR]

It could be a beta CDr that requires a key disc. Sega CD betas played without problem, but I don't know about 32X CD betas.

[Puff-puff]

Isn't Fahrenheit set up the same way? 1st disc is Sega CD & 2nd is 32X???

Puffy

[c2000]

Isn't Fahrenheit set up the same way? 1st disc is Sega CD & 2nd is 32X???

Puffy


Indeed.

[Cryomancer]

Why does it say "Sega CD" on disc 1, but say "32X CD" on disc 2?

As said above this post, that's how Fahrenheit works, too. Here, I took a pic of my copy:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1038/fahrenheitdiscsfl0.jpg

Sega CD disc Says Disc 1 - Key Disc, 32x disc says Disc 2 - Insert Key Disc 1 First

[DreamTR]

Ok, I solved the mystery. The game WAS released, but it was mail order only.

In the back of the Sega CD Manual for Surgical Strike is a special offer to get a 32X CD version via mail order for $3.75 shipping and handling.

So yes, it was released, but it was mail order only.

[Bojay1997]

Ok, I solved the mystery. The game WAS released, but it was mail order only.

In the back of the Sega CD Manual for Surgical Strike is a special offer to get a 32X CD version via mail order for $3.75 shipping and handling.

So yes, it was released, but it was mail order only.

Actually, I don't believe it was released. Those of us who sent in for the 32X version got a note and a refund back from Sega. As I recall, I either got a coupon for another game or a free game as well. I'll have to go through my stuff to tell for sure what they sent me instead.

[DreamTR]

Bojay, the guy that produced the game said it was completed, and talked about why the disks were mail-order only. (Production issues)

Not sure how many actually got out, but it's obvious that some did...

[Bojay1997]

Bojay, the guy that produced the game said it was completed, and talked about why the disks were mail-order only. (Production issues)

Not sure how many actually got out, but it's obvious that some did...

I've seen his website and I have no doubt that some were pressed (obviously an example is what started this post), but I know as someone who sent in the coupon and shipping and handling immediately after the game was released, Sega did not fill orders. If you have evidence that anyone actually got one mail order, I would love to see it.

[Vectorman0]

Of course, I can't find the website now. But when this topic first came up, I did some digging and found another account of someone sending in for it and not getting the 32X offer fulfilled, reaffirming what Bojay says.

[Bojay1997]

Of course, I can't find the website now. But when this topic first came up, I did some digging and found another account of someone sending in for it and not getting the 32X offer fulfilled, reaffirming what Bojay says.

Thanks for the back-up. I went through some of my old stuff today and it looks like they sent me Wirehead as an apology for not sending Surgical Strike. In retrospect, I think I was not happy about this because I already owned Wirehead and liked Surgical Strike better and really wanted a 32X version. I would love to hear from someone at Sega about why they couldn't have sent Surgical Strike out since we now have evidence that it in fact was complete and ready to ship. Maybe they didn't want to extend the support period for the 32X by continuing to release product for it? I don't know.

[Cryomancer]

Yeah, I have always heard that people didn't get any, they would send you another game instead.

[swlovinist]

Confirmed from one of the original programmers....it was released. Well, looks like we have the oober rare one to add to a somewhat easy set to complete previously

[Bojay1997]

Confirmed from one of the original programmers....it was released. Well, looks like we have the oober rare one to add to a somewhat easy set to complete previously

Not to keep beating a dead horse, but the programmer has had this same incorrect information on his website for years now. He may think it was released, but as a number of people have already confirmed, Sega never actually shipped them out to anyone. I got my card in immediately and finally six months later, they sent me a note saying it was cancelled along with a copy of Wirehead for the regular Sega CD. If you do a search on Google, you will find that literally dozens of people got the same note and free game. It has been almost ten years now and frankly, as I have seen time and time again from the incorrect info provided by panelists at CGE, the programmer very rarely has anything to do with distribution and their information about what did and didn't come out or how many of something was made is somewhat suspect. They may be told something is released and they may even have final retail copies of something, but until it is placed in a store or shipped out to a customer, it's not released, just like this game.

[swlovinist]

Well, I am going to believe someone involved with the actual project over a customer who got something in the mail. Not to mention that someone actually found one and posted it here. The programmer personally emailed me by the way. That is proof enough for me.

We can cry all we want, Surgical Strike for the 32X was released in small quantities.

I will try to get some type of production numbers and more info. Thanks, John

[Bojay1997]

Well, I am going to believe someone involved with the actual project over a customer who got something in the mail. Not to mention that someone actually found one and posted it here. The programmer personally emailed me by the way. That is proof enough for me.

We can cry all we want, Surgical Strike for the 32X was released in small quantities.

I will try to get some type of production numbers and more info. Thanks, John

That's absurd. You are accepting absolutely no proof at all as if it's 100% truth. I have no doubt that these were pressed and were probably sitting in a warehouse somewhere. They were not, however, released. The fact that Sega sent out letters to everyone who sent in the card based on multiple accounts all around the web to people who sent in the cards they gave out with the Sega CD version of the game is far more proof than an e-mail from a programmer who would have nothing to do with the distribution of the game. Even discounting this, how would you explain the fact that I also received a copy of Wirehead and the note from Sega in response to my submission of the card?

Perhaps you can ask the programmer what evidence he has that it was released to anyone outside of Sega itself. Until I see some proof, as far as I'm concerned, it was completed and pressed and ready to distribute, but never was. I already put forward one theory about why Sega may have decided not to release it since sending out another 32X game would have extended the period in which they would have to continue to provide warranty support in California. At that point, the 32X and Sega CD were both dead at retail and releasing this would have been pointless.

I'm not crying, I would love this to be true. However, a decade of not seeing this ever pop up and then just a single copy appearing with no packaging leads me to believe this was never released.

[DreamTR]

swlovinist: sorry, bojay is right. The programmer might know they were pressed, but in development, sometimes they don't know jack about their games being released. If it was released even by mail order, there would not be a plethora of gamers with these cards stating they could not get the game, and there would be more than this ONE copy that someone randomly found that got out somehow.

Like I said, you take people that worked on the game's word for it, then the guy I talked to about Sim City for NES still insists that game was released. LOL

[chicnstu]

Every time I see the title of this game I think of this (http://www.serjicalstrike.com/site/).

[swlovinist]

I disagree with you guys, but I guess this is just a matter of who you believe more. At least it shoud be looked into. I will try to get additional info from Tony Van who co produced this project. I get passionate when I feel that I am right. There is enough evidence here to consider it. I just dont get these fourms sometimes.


Comparing the validity of other programmers in the past to this case is not right. This is different. A copy has been found. The co-producer has validated that it was a send away that came out in a very limited fashon. If that does not stand for something, then there is something wrong about how we accept or deny games. It is good enough for me.

[ProgrammingAce]

One pressed copy of a game does not make a release...

The companies who press the discs will sometimes start production before the order is placed in order to fill empty spots in their schedule.

I have a sealed production copy of Half-Life for the dreamcast, nobody is going to claim it was "released".

There have been several dozen games that have gone to production only to be canceled

[DreamTR]

swlovinist: So because 2 Final Fight Guy sealed copies were found at internal Nintendo Canada that are not the Blockbuster versions, that came out too? You realize I was the first person in the thread who thought like you, the game came out if you read back and was mail order, but then bojay and everyone else had those papers from Sega, so that ended that. Just because someone worked on the game said it came out DOES NOT make it true.

Heck, Nintendo thinks game did or did not come out based on their own internal rarity list, and you know how that works these days.

It does not work that way with programmers swlovinist. That is the ONLY disk someone found in 13 years. Programming Ace hit it right on the noggin as well. Just because a retail pressed copy exists does not necessarily mean it came out.

another example: I have a Drac's Night Out PRODUCTION LABEL on a loose game with all the correct information that was sent to the magazine I worked at. Does not mean the game came out either.

[swlovinist]

Another quote from Tony Van

"Surgical Strike 32X was released, just not as its own retail package. The game itself was “duel labeled” (as you can see on my site), but only came with the Sega CD disk, with a coupon to send in to get the 32X CD.

Unfortunately, I don’t have any of the 32X CDs (not even one for me… not sure how that happened.) They exist, but are extremely rare."

We are going to disagree on this one. I feel that there is enough evidence to validate it. I have asked him additional information about the letters sent out to people back in the day about this one. To say that all, some or most people involved with a game project being released as being incorrect is a very big and incorrect assumption. Again, we have evidence of at least one popping up with a production lablel on top of what Tony Van says. That to me is enough, even if it wont deter others onto its release. If other information comes up that otherwise PROOVES that it was not released, then I will stand corrected. To me the evidence is leaning towards a very limited release.

[Lord Thag]

I don't post here much, but I'm going to chime in with swlovinist. If the programmer says it was available via mail order, then chances are it was. Sure it may not have been a boxed, commercial package, but it's still legit, or at least well worth investigating. Limited it may be, but that does not make it less interesting.

After all, if you draw the line at this mail order game, you have to eliminate lots of 'uber rare' games from the lists. For example, 2600 video life was available in tiny quantities only via mail order to purchasers of the extremely rare magicard. 2600 Confrontation was available only via mail order from Answer Software to people who saw it at the expo and knew it existed (all five of them)! If these kinds of games are considered 'part of the canon', so to speak, and included in the lists, then I think there is plenty of evidence here to support the claim for this game. at minimum, it is worth investigating further, for sure.

[ProgrammingAce]

BTW, they don't do print runs of a thousand. Minimum would be a single skid of product, which would be between 3,000 and 3,500 units.

Easiest way to solve the question, find a single person who received the game in the mail from Sega. With all the collectors on the boards here, shouldn't be too hard; even if there were only a thousand made.

[DreamTR]

LordThag: If people actually HAD the game, then maybe it would be believable, but ONE has surfaced in 13 years.

I worked at a video game magazine for 9 years, and I can tell you without a doubt, EVERYONE forgets stuff like that from years ago if it came out or not.

Like I stated before, people that have WORKED on Sim City for NES, and other games for other systems have told me their games came out, but did not. They just don't know. They're not involved in production of the unit. Once the project is completed, it's out of their hands. They don't follow up much about it. Heck, this guy himself does not have one.

Since 1,000 of them exist, I offer a bounty of $500 for one if it pops up. Should not be too hard then, eh?


I mentioned the mail order thing in this thread first when I found my Surgical Strike game. Bojay stated that no one got it, and that made sense since well, no one has had one. WHy 13 years later it is "out" because one person has one if no one else has it?

And let's not forget the most obvious of the whole thing.

The guy who found this. FOund it in BRAZIL.

WOW.

Brazil.

Not even the US.

I rest my case.

[c2000]

Another quote from Tony Van

"Surgical Strike 32X was released, just not as its own retail package. The game itself was “duel labeled” (as you can see on my site), but only came with the Sega CD disk, with a coupon to send in to get the 32X CD.

Unfortunately, I don’t have any of the 32X CDs (not even one for me… not sure how that happened.) They exist, but are extremely rare."

We are going to disagree on this one. I feel that there is enough evidence to validate it. I have asked him additional information about the letters sent out to people back in the day about this one. To say that all, some or most people involved with a game project being released as being incorrect is a very big and incorrect assumption. Again, we have evidence of at least one popping up with a production lablel on top of what Tony Van says. That to me is enough, even if it wont deter others onto its release. If other information comes up that otherwise PROOVES that it was not released, then I will stand corrected. To me the evidence is leaning towards a very limited release.

http://nerdvana.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/03/i-want-to-believe.jpg :p ;)

[swlovinist]

As for the production of 1000, 1000 might have been made, but not necessarilly distributed. Maybe 900 were trashed. Maybe only 100 were mailed out. This raises alot of questions, but the thing to remember is that we need not to get caught up on the production numbers of this one. Possibly only a VERY FEW were mailed out. I think we are missing the point that the 32CD request was not done by thousands of people...the game sold horribly as admitted by Tony. Alot the people that bought it might of not bought it at day one of release.

As for finding it in Brazil, many other NTSC games have been found there. That does not necessarily mean it was not released. We have speculation versus some facts. It is worth investigation more. I believe that there are games out there that can elude even the most hardcore collectors. Not everything is distributed well, salvaged, or saved. What we need is to have someone from Sega to offically comment on this.

[DreamTR]

There's no one from Sega left that would even remember. It's like asking people at Nintendo what games came out. They just go by a list in their database.

Regardless of NTSC games making their way to Brazil, they could have ended up at Tec Toy for all we know, but 0 have been found in the USA. No mail order ones have turned up, nothing over the years, just this one, lone copy. Most NTSC games "found" in Brazil/South America ended up being Atari games mostly, and older computer games.

[vintagegamecrazy]

I'd have to go with the "it exists but wasn't released" boat for this one, it could be another case of the Megadrive Tetris, they were destroyed but a few were saved by employees and that's possible with Surgical Strike. I think an entry to the database would be warranted but only listed in Protos and one of a kinds until more info is found.

[ProgrammingAce]

Wait, i missed the whole Brazil thing...

Are you seriously going to argue that a single copy of a game found in Brazil, a country known for piracy, proves that a title is released?

This ranks right up there with AirRaid...

[Supergun]

I've seen his website and I have no doubt that some were pressed (obviously an example is what started this post), but I know as someone who sent in the coupon and shipping and handling immediately after the game was released, Sega did not fill orders. If you have evidence that anyone actually got one mail order, I would love to see it.


Been following this thread closely as it interests me very much.

Consider this:
In these cases, it really is all about the little details involved in the timeline. When pieced together, they can make a big difference on the outcome.
Let's review:

1.) How soon after the regular Sega CD version was shipped to retail outlets did YOUR local retail outlet receive and display the game?

2.) How soon after the game was available for purchase at the store did YOU actually purchase it?

3.) How soon after you got home and read about the 32X offer did you write a check and physically drop the letter in a mailbox?

4.) What part of the country do you live in...as in per say...how long did it take for your check to arrive and be processed?

Scenario A:
If you lived in some small town in the backwoods of Maine, and your local retail store received the game a week or two after most other major outlets across the country, and you did not really see it on the shelf there until a week or so later, and then you took another week or so before sending in your check, then by the time your letter arrived at Sega in California, and assuming you made no errors on the check and the check cleared the bank in a not so timely matter, then you were pretty much out of luck!

Scenario B:
If you lived in Hayward, California, and you bought the game at the nearest major indoor air conditioned shopping mall immediately as they were unpacking the cases on April 1, 1995 and on your way home from the mall you dropped the letter in the mail with a money order, then guess what, you are among the lucky few!

Simple math my friends. It's all about the timeline.
A few of them did get out before Sega pulled the plug.
That's my opinion.

Also 2 more things if I may?

1.) Can we ask the owner here if he is willing to make a few CDR's for those of us like myself who would love to play the game with superior 32X colors and FMV so we can enjoy the game too? (will gladly pay for this)

2.) Wether a yes or a no to the above, how much are you willing to sell the item for? (can you ebay it or something?)

Thanks,
Billy

[Bojay1997]

Been following this thread closely as it interests me very much.

Consider this:
In these cases, it really is all about the little details involved in the timeline. When pieced together, they can make a big difference on the outcome.
Let's review:

1.) How soon after the regular Sega CD version was shipped to retail outlets did YOUR local retail outlet receive and display the game?

2.) How soon after the game was available for purchase at the store did YOU actually purchase it?

3.) How soon after you got home and read about the 32X offer did you write a check and physically drop the letter in a mailbox?

4.) What part of the country do you live in...as in per say...how long did it take for your check to arrive and be processed?

Scenario A:
If you lived in some small town in the backwoods of Maine, and your local retail store received the game a week or two after most other major outlets across the country, and you did not really see it on the shelf there until a week or so later, and then you took another week or so before sending in your check, then by the time your letter arrived at Sega in California, and assuming you made no errors on the check and the check cleared the bank in a not so timely matter, then you were pretty much out of luck!

Scenario B:
If you lived in Hayward, California, and you bought the game at the nearest major indoor air conditioned shopping mall immediately as they were unpacking the cases on April 1, 1995 and on your way home from the mall you dropped the letter in the mail with a money order, then guess what, you are among the lucky few!

Simple math my friends. It's all about the timeline.
A few of them did get out before Sega pulled the plug.
That's my opinion.

Also 2 more things if I may?

1.) Can we ask the owner here if he is willing to make a few CDR's for those of us like myself who would love to play the game with superior 32X colors and FMV so we can enjoy the game too? (will gladly pay for this)

2.) Wether a yes or a no to the above, how much are you willing to sell the item for? (can you ebay it or something?)

Thanks,
Billy

The problem with your flawed analysis is that there is not even a single report of anyone on the planet receiving this game directly from Sega. If you do a Google search, you will find at least a dozen postings, each from a different person, many going back to 1996 when the game was new, wondering why Sega never sent them anything. Then, some six months after the expiration date of the deadline to send in the cards, there are postings and in my case a personal memory of receiving a box in the mail which contained a factory sealed copy of Wirehead for the Sega CD and a note from Sega saying they would not be sending out Surgical Strike 32X CD because it had been cancelled.

Now there is no reasonable explanation for Sega sending me a completely different game and one that at the time was still selling for near full MSRP when they could have sent me a single disc in a sleeve to fulfill the order. Similarly, there is no reasonable explanation for Sega deciding to lie to me and everyone else who received the substitute game and note if they had in fact shipped some out to people. They would have just sent me the different game or refunded my money and said that they sold out of the game because of such high demand. If it was a problem with not receiving my request in time (which is absurd since I live in Los Angeles and bought the game within a week or two of release at EB Games and then sent the card in a day or two later), they would have just refunded my money and sent me a rejection letter.

Remember, this didn't happen in 1976, this was 1995/1996 when people were actually posting extensively on Usenet newsgroups and there were at least a few video game collecting websites starting to pop up. It's not like they could have easily hidden the fact that some people got the game and some didn't. As such, I absolutely stand by my conclusion that this was never released.

[Supergun]

Remember, this didn't happen in 1976, this was 1995/1996 when people were actually posting extensively on Usenet newsgroups and there were at least a few video game collecting websites starting to pop up. It's not like they could have easily hidden the fact that some people got the game and some didn't. As such, I absolutely stand by my conclusion that this was never released.


I am not neccesarily trying to support or negate the argument of wether or not the game was "released". Released being a term defining that it was either on store shelves and/or available for purchase in some limited fashion. Rather, I am merely pointing to the fact that maybe it was "manufactured", as in they made a run of 1,000 discs of which the vast majority sat in a warehouse until they were eventually thrown away.

Also, there is nothing flawed in my logic. What I said in my original post is 100% sensible and could be applied to any mail order games such as tooth protectors, chase the chuckwagon, video life, etc. The only "flaw" would be if it does not "apply" in THIS particular case as in per example if the game was never manufactured, then obviously no matter how quickly you "re-acted" you simply never had a chance in hell of getting it.

The bottom line is this:
FACT: We have a scan of the item at the beginning of this thread which is of the item in question. We also have a video of the game in action, although I have yet to have success with that link, but let's assume the owner is willing to make a video eventually. Either way, the point is, we have proof of "SOMETHING".

NOW, the ONLY thing in question is what that "proof provided" is actually OF!
We must believe one of the following:

1) The guy is from Brazil which is very far away and a very big bootleg software part of the world and so it is a fake or a mock up.

2) It is indeed the REAL thing, and there are others out there (yes one in 13 years) and maybe a second one in 26 years and hey, it is simply that rare and so start searching!

But if what the guy in Brazil has is indeed the real thing, then we have no choice but to accept that it was MANUFACTURED, even if in a limited production run, and therefore the possibility at the very least EXISTS that others may indeed be out there.

OH and ONE MORE DETAIL:
Buyers had TWO options of WHERE to send in the $3.75 or $4.00 Canadian payments for the game! The other location was in PARIS, ONTARIO CANADA. So this again changes the scope of things in that they could very well be out there, just not very common and not well spoken of.

[SurfKahuna]

Don't worry everyone, I found out what's going on:

http://www.cadeauxcanada.com/32x-surgical-strike,B0000X01AG_i.htm

See? It comes out in 2010. You're all welcome :). HAHAHA. Fail.

[Bojay1997]

I am not neccesarily trying to support or negate the argument of wether or not the game was "released". Released being a term defining that it was either on store shelves and/or available for purchase in some limited fashion. Rather, I am merely pointing to the fact that maybe it was "manufactured", as in they made a run of 1,000 discs of which the vast majority sat in a warehouse until they were eventually thrown away.

Also, there is nothing flawed in my logic. What I said in my original post is 100% sensible and could be applied to any mail order games such as tooth protectors, chase the chuckwagon, video life, etc. The only "flaw" would be if it does not "apply" in THIS particular case as in per example if the game was never manufactured, then obviously no matter how quickly you "re-acted" you simply never had a chance in hell of getting it.

The bottom line is this:
FACT: We have a scan of the item at the beginning of this thread which is of the item in question. We also have a video of the game in action, although I have yet to have success with that link, but let's assume the owner is willing to make a video eventually. Either way, the point is, we have proof of "SOMETHING".

NOW, the ONLY thing in question is what that "proof provided" is actually OF!
We must believe one of the following:

1) The guy is from Brazil which is very far away and a very big bootleg software part of the world and so it is a fake or a mock up.

2) It is indeed the REAL thing, and there are others out there (yes one in 13 years) and maybe a second one in 26 years and hey, it is simply that rare and so start searching!

But if what the guy in Brazil has is indeed the real thing, then we have no choice but to accept that it was MANUFACTURED, even if in a limited production run, and therefore the possibility at the very least EXISTS that others may indeed be out there.

OH and ONE MORE DETAIL:
Buyers had TWO options of WHERE to send in the $3.75 or $4.00 Canadian payments for the game! The other location was in PARIS, ONTARIO CANADA. So this again changes the scope of things in that they could very well be out there, just not very common and not well spoken of.


Are you kidding me? Have you been reading this thread at all or did you even take the time to read what you wrote in your earlier post? Nobody is doubting that what the original poster has is real. Similarly, nobody is doubting that the game was finished and copies may have been manufactured. What is in dispute is whether or not it was released which means either at retail or by mail order. Your whole argument about different addresses and the time line does nothing to support either perspective on the issue. Sometimes, it's better to stay as a lurker if you have absolutely nothing to contribute.

[SurfKahuna]

Ouch.

[Tempest]

I have a hard time believing that this was actually sent out to anybody. Even the rarest of Sega CD games would have had more than one copy appear in thirteen years.

My best guesss is that a batch was pressed, but Sega decided to cancel the whole thing before it was sent out for reasons unknown (I've heard of dumber things). Most were probabaly destroyed, but some probably found their way into the hands of employees which is probably where this lone example came from.

If it had actually been sent out to people, more should have surfaced by now. Heck, I'll give you a clasasic gaming example about something like this. Only 4,000 Intellivision Keyboard Components were sent out to people. Most were later returned to Mattel when the cancelled the project, some were kept however (a very small number, probably less than 500). Even though the Keyboard Component is increadibly rare, there are at least 10-15 out there in collectors hands and that's over 25 years later (lord knows how many were thrown out after 10 or so years). Now just for the sake of argument, let's assume that 1,000 SS's were pressed and given out. How come none have shown up before now? Because it was more than likely never sent out in the first place.

Tempest

[astrofy]

Are you kidding me? Have you been reading this thread at all or did you even take the time to read what you wrote in your earlier post? Nobody is doubting that what the original poster has is real. Similarly, nobody is doubting that the game was finished and copies may have been manufactured. What is in dispute is whether or not it was released which means either at retail or by mail order. Your whole argument about different addresses and the time line does nothing to support either perspective on the issue. Sometimes, it's better to stay as a lurker if you have absolutely nothing to contribute.
The Answer is HERE!
Surgical Strike 32X CD DOES exist！ It was published in Brazil by TecToy！ And the game is in Portuguese！
http://bbs.emu-zone.org/newbbs/attachments/forumid_130/20100823_7743c53f19ba61dd3709JJbFOvMBIG19.jpg
You can also look at here（in Chinese）：
http://bbs.emu-zone.org/newbbs/thread-676587-1-1.html

[Bojay1997]

The Answer is HERE!
Surgical Strike 32X CD DOES exist！It‘s published in Brazil by TecToy！And the game is in Portuguese！
http://bbs.emu-zone.org/newbbs/attachments/forumid_130/20100823_7743c53f19ba61dd3709JJbFOvMBIG19.jpg
You can also look at here（in Chinese）：
http://bbs.emu-zone.org/newbbs/thread-676587-1-1.html

While that's neat, it doesn't really address the issue which was being debated. Nobody doubted that the disc the OP posted was real or that the game was finished. The only doubt was whether it was released in the United States. Clearly, this does nothing to address that issue. Still, it's neat that it's out there in Brazilian form.

[astrofy]

While that's neat, it doesn't really address the issue which was being debated. Nobody doubted that the disc the OP posted was real or that the game was finished. The only doubt was whether it was released in the United States. Clearly, this does nothing to address that issue. Still, it's neat that it's out there in Brazilian form.
Well, I also believe that it was not released in the US.
Just thinking it was really released somewhere on the earth, that's nice.
In fact, NOT a single hardware or software of FC, MD, SFC, PS, DC, PS3, X360, Wii, PSP was ever released in my country: China;)

[Massimiliano]

oh my god !
I didn't even know 32x cd games were available in brasil, so seeing today that another game that was canceled everywhere finished in brasilian stores kills me

[eskobar]

Wouldn't a TECTOY release be pressed in Portuguese or with the TECTOY logo ?


The disc that was scanned looks like a regular North American release .... CLASSICGAMING, where did you get the game ?

[ReBirFh]

Wouldn't a TECTOY release be pressed in Portuguese or with the TECTOY logo ?

No, they wouldn't. Cd-based consoles released by Tec Toy (Sega CD,Saturn and Dreamcast) had the exact same disc as their american counterpart, the only thing they did was translating the manuals and box. Probably they received the Masters and only made the duplication, this game differs from other 32X CD games as it doesn't need the Disc 1 to be inserted first.

I have both a journal from Tec Toy announcing this game and a poster that shows this and Midnight Rider 32X CD, but the latter wasn't found yet.

There are two known brazillians with a copy of Surgical Strike but both are unwilling to replicate them for their own reasons.

Classicgaming had some serious health problems recently but fortunately he is safe now but hasn't been online for some time, as soon as he come back I will try to see if he can grab some screens.


Here is a scan of the Tec Toy Journal (Sega Club)
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn262/Rebirfh/ScanImage001.jpg

[kevro]

No. I have this game. But it's loose. That's why I dont have more information.

I didn't have time to test it, but I will this weekend.

Could you upload this game? It's no ware to be found online : (

This game will never be released commercially , it will most likely be lost forever if some one doesn't upload it. I don't know why the Brazilian owners are having reservations about it either , a copy has a $0 value while the original retains it's rareness value no matter how many "Copies" there are out in the wild. If anything the Value on the original disks will go up due to people actually wanting it again.

[marioxb]

Here's a link to that video, in case people still haven't seen it. So what's the consensus now? Open that Brazilian Mega CD 32X box and inside is the English Sega CD 32X disc (and possibly disc 1 as well)?

http://www.mediafire.com/?8mi6s4sikedrxee

[Bojay1997]

Here's a link to that video, in case people still haven't seen it. So what's the consensus now? Open that Brazilian Mega CD 32X box and inside is the English Sega CD 32X disc (and possibly disc 1 as well)?

http://www.mediafire.com/?8mi6s4sikedrxee

Same as before, it exists but it was never released in the United States.

[DreamTR]

Bringing this back from the dead, I am looking for the Tec Toy release if anyone has it for sale..

[edsongodoy]

We are re-launching 32X Surgical Strike. Details in the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qps2pPJtnsw