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Malon_Forever
08-25-2008, 01:06 PM
I don't know if this has been noted before, but I noticed that there is some N64 games where the insert in the box that holds the game is removable, and others where it is attached to the box. Was this something that was random, or something that started at a certain time?

Was this like this for the NES or SNES? I don't really know how the boxes were for those systems (beside a few samples I have). Thanks.
Hitman Tyler
08-25-2008, 01:12 PM
not to be mean... but this has be noted.
I think over time it was easier and cheaper to do(attached inserts).
Vectorman0
08-25-2008, 01:15 PM
I don't know if this has been noted before, but I noticed that there is some N64 games where the insert in the box that holds the game is removable, and others where it is attached to the box. Was this something that was random, or something that started at a certain time?

Was this like this for the NES or SNES? I don't really know how the boxes were for those systems (beside a few samples I have). Thanks.


Some time during the N64's lifespan, there was a transition from the removable white trays to the built in trays. I can't tell you when exactly. I also know that there are a few games I have seen with boxes made both ways.
Hitman Tyler
08-25-2008, 01:17 PM
Some time during the N64's lifespan, there was a transition from the removable white trays to the built in trays. I can't tell you when exactly. I also know that there are a few games I have seen with boxes made both ways.

True...
Maybe its like the PS1 Long Boxs, different variants..
Then again, someone knows the answer to this.
Malon_Forever
08-25-2008, 01:55 PM
Some time during the N64's lifespan, there was a transition from the removable white trays to the built in trays. I can't tell you when exactly. I also know that there are a few games I have seen with boxes made both ways.



Is the majority of them the removable or the built ins? (if you have any idea)
Hitman Tyler
08-25-2008, 05:54 PM
Is the majority of them the removable or the built ins? (if you have any idea)

I might be wrong but... I think removable
Malon_Forever
08-26-2008, 04:58 PM
Well, I was thinking about this topic some more, and thought it would be a good idea to make a list. It might be pretty deep if a lot of people contribute. Here is a list of North American N64 boxes (from the boxes I have in my collection) of the ones that are removable (r) and non-removable (nr):

Bomberman Hero.................................(r)
Clayfighter Sculptor's Cut.....................(r)
Excitebike 64......................................(nr)
F-Zero X..............................................(r)
Goldeneye 007.....................................(r)
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine(nr)
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside...............(r)
The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time.....(nr)
The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask.......(nr)
Mortal Kombat 4..................................(r)
Mario Tennis.......................................(nr)
Mario Kart 64......................................(r)
Mario Party.........................................(r)
Mario Golf..........................................(nr)
NFL Blitz 2001...................................(nr)
Nascar '99..........................................(r)
Nightmare Creatures..........................(nr)
Perfect Dark......................................(nr)
Paper Mario.......................................(nr)
Quest 64............................................(r)
Rocket the Robot on Wheels...............(nr)
Space Invaders.................................(nr)
South Park Chef's Luv Shack..............(nr)
Super Mario 64..................................(r)
Tetrisphere....................................... .(r)
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.....................(nr)
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2..................(nr)
WWF No Mercy.................................(nr)
WWF Wrestlemania 2000..................(nr)
Yoshi's Story.....................................(r)

*Note: Mario Kart 64 was Player's Choice verison*

Well, that's all the N64 boxes I have. Any others would be appericiated!
SegaAges
08-26-2008, 05:03 PM
Hmm, I can go through my games sometime and check them. I will be going through them all when I get my collections code done anyway, so I can post on here in the next couple days when I start to go through my games.
theChad
08-26-2008, 05:04 PM
Vigilante 8 (nr)
Starfox 64 (r)

Wish I had more to help you with...
rbudrick
08-26-2008, 05:07 PM
I only noticed this phenomenon for the first time when I set up my game room a couple weeks back. Very strange coincidence to see this thread pop up. Cool idea, and I'm interested to see if any game comes both ways.

-Rob
Vectorman0
08-26-2008, 05:45 PM
I only noticed this phenomenon for the first time when I set up my game room a couple weeks back. Very strange coincidence to see this thread pop up. Cool idea, and I'm interested to see if any game comes both ways.

-Rob

Here is on example:

(Please excuse the poor quality pictures)

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr140/Vectorman0/92262182.jpg


http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr140/Vectorman0/87860806.jpg
Malon_Forever
08-26-2008, 08:05 PM
Here is on example:

(Please excuse the poor quality pictures)

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr140/Vectorman0/92262182.jpg


http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr140/Vectorman0/87860806.jpg

Well, is that due to the "free vehicle" inside the game? I wonder what other ones there are....

Also, I will update a complete list every so often if more people contribute (just combine everyone's into one list). I'll try to add the more boxes I get.
Trevelyan
08-26-2008, 08:54 PM
yeah, would love to see a list. It can be tricky to get the nr's in good shape. I think my Resident Evil 2, Bugs Life & Blues Brothers(maybe on this one) are nr's...some soccer games are nr's & some WWE ones too. All my collection is in storage atm, I cant help too much im afraid. meh

btw, my mario tennis, OOT & Perrfect Dark are removable (PAL)
PixelSmasher
08-27-2008, 11:21 PM
Ya know, no offense guys, but I have to say that whether the cardboard inside the boxes is attached or not has to be the least interesting variant possible for a game. I can't imagine why you'd want a list of which had which, unless you were so desperate for extra N64 stuff to collect that you'd want to get both versions of boxes.

The only thing I can think of that would compare in terms of sheer boringness would be keeping tabs on games that have different UPC numbers, but are otherwise exactly the same.

Art variants, though, are pretty rad. Just my two cents.
scooterb23
08-27-2008, 11:39 PM
Ya know, no offense guys, but I have to say that whether the cardboard inside the boxes is attached or not has to be the least interesting variant possible for a game. I can't imagine why you'd want a list of which had which, unless you were so desperate for extra N64 stuff to collect that you'd want to get both versions of boxes.

The only thing I can think of that would compare in terms of sheer boringness would be keeping tabs on games that have different UPC numbers, but are otherwise exactly the same.

Art variants, though, are pretty rad. Just my two cents.


I couldn't agree more, but there are people out there just insane enough to do it. You just watch.
PixelSmasher
08-27-2008, 11:40 PM
I couldn't agree more, but there are people out there just insane enough to do it. You just watch.

MALON_FOREVER, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! *sob*
Malon_Forever
08-27-2008, 11:55 PM
I just thought it be cool to see a list, and to see if there was a certain time that they changed it completely, or it was just random. It's not like we're going into deep converisons about it. It's just something to talk about...
PixelSmasher
08-28-2008, 12:26 AM
I just thought it be cool to see a list, and to see if there was a certain time that they changed it completely, or it was just random. It's not like we're going into deep converisons about it. It's just something to talk about...

Yeah. We're pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to classic collecting topics. Though, when PS2 becomes considered classic that will open up some more things.
CelticJobber
08-28-2008, 02:13 AM
As a big N64 supporter during its lifespan, I really hated it when they transitioned to the non-removable inserts. Judging by my collection (and from memory) the non-removables came out sometime in mid-late 1998. The most recent release in my collection with a removable tray was WCW Mayhem by EA which came out in fall of 1999, and seems to be a freak occurance as the NR's were pretty much standard at that point.

A few more for your list:

Bio Freaks (r)
Castlevania (nr)
Conker's BFD (nr)
Donkey Kong 64 (nr)
ECW: Hardcore Revolution (nr)
Hybrid Heaven (nr)
Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub Zero (r)
Mystical Ninja 64 (r)
Pokemon Puzzle Leage (nr)
Ridge Racer 64 (nr)
San Francisco Rush (r)
Rush 2 (nr)
San Francisco Rush 2049 (nr)
Star Wars Episode 1 Racer (nr)
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (r)
Turok 2 (nr)
WCW/nWo Revenge (r)
WCW Mayhem (r)
WWF Attitude (nr)
WWF Warzone (r)
Malon_Forever
08-28-2008, 12:38 PM
Here is a list with everyone's help so far. It will be updated from time to time. (updated as of 8/29):


*Note: PC= Player's Choice verison*

1080º snowboarding....................................(n r)
Banjo-Kazooie........................................... ..(nr)
Bio Freaks............................................ ........(r)
Body Harvest........................................... ....(nr)
Bomberman Hero...........................................(r)
Castlevania....................................... ............(nr)
Castlevania Legacy of Darkness.......................(nr)
Clayfighter Sculptor's Cut................................(r)
Conker's BFD............................................... ..(nr)
Donkey Kong 64.............................................(nr )
Doom 64................................................ .........(r)
Duck Dodgers........................................... ......(nr)
Earthworm Jim 3D...........................................(nr)
ECW: Hardcore Revolution................................(nr)
Excitebike 64................................................ ..(nr)
F-1 World Grand Prix.......................................(nr)
F-Zero X................................................. .........(r)
Goldeneye 007............................................... ..(r)
Goldeneye -PC................................................ .(nr)
Harvest Moon 64..............................................(n r)
Hey You Pikachu........................................... ...(nr)
Hybrid Heaven............................................ .....(nr)
Indiana Jones anthe Infernal Machine................(nr)
Jet Force Gemini............................................ ..(nr)
Kirby 64 The Crystal Shards..............................(nr)
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside.............................(r)
(the)Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time.................(nr)
(the)Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (gold cart)(nr)
(the)Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask....................(nr)
Mario Golf.............................................. ..........(nr)
Mario Kart 64-PC...............................................( r)
Mario Party............................................. ..........(r)
Mario Tennis............................................ ........(nr)
Mischief Makers............................................ ....(r)
Micro Machines 64..........................................(both)
Mortal Kombat 4...............................................(r )
Mortal Kombat Mythologies:Sub Zero.................(r)
Mystical Ninja 64..............................................(r )
Nascar '99............................................... ........(r)
NFL Blitz 2001.............................................. ..(nr)
Nightmare Creatures.......................................(n r)
Ogre Battle 64 Person of Lordly Calibur..............(r)
Paper Mario............................................. .......(nr)
Perfect Dark.............................................. ......(nr)
Pokemon Puzzle Leage.....................................(nr)
Pokemon Snap.............................................. ..(nr)
Pilotwings 64................................................ ...(r)
Quest 64................................................ .........(r)
Resident Evil 2................................................( nr)
Ridge Racer 64................................................ (nr)
Rocket the Robot Wheels..................................(nr)
San Franciscosh 2049......................................(nr)
San Franci Rush.............................................. .(r)
San Frasco Rush 2............................................(nr)
ScooDoo Classsic Creep Capers.........................(nr)
Sh Park Chef's Luv Shack..................................(nr)
Space Invaders.......................................... ......(nr)
Starcraft 64................................................ .....(nr)
Starfox 64................................................ ........(r)
Star Fox 64 w/Rumble Pak.................................(r)
Star Wars Episode 1 Racer.................................(nr)
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire......................(r)
Star Wars Rogue Squadron.................................(nr)
Super Mario 64................................................ ..(r)
Super Smash Bros.............................................( nr)
Tetrisphere....................................... .................(r)
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.....................................(nr)
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2..................................(nr)
Turok............................................. ...................(r)
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil........................................(nr)
Vigilante 8................................................. .......(nr)
Waverace 64................................................ ......(r)
Winback........................................... .................(nr)
World Driver Championship.................................(nr)
WWF No Mercy............................................. ......(nr)
WCW/nWo Revenge........................................... .(r)
WCW Mayhem............................................ ........(r)
WWF Attitude.......................................... ..........(nr)
WWF Warzone........................................... .........(r)
WWF Wrestlemania 2000....................................(nr)
Yoshi's Story............................................. .........(r)
NytroSkull7
08-28-2008, 04:09 PM
Pokemon Snap (nr)
Scooby Doo Classsic Creep Capers (nr)
Hey You Pikachu (nr)
Kitsune Sniper
08-28-2008, 04:45 PM
You know, this also happened with GBA games! I have a couple of games that don't have a tray, but instead they have this little cart holder attached to the cardboard box.

I don't see the point of collecting these different boxes as variants. HOWEVER, it is a good idea to make a list of what games came like this just in case it's needed by someone.
Blitzwing256
08-28-2008, 05:59 PM
some of them could be very short run varients and could end up being more valuable to the completist, remeber some of the 5 screw nes games are pretty tough to come by (just try to find a star force I dare you!), not the most exciting variant but still fun to see whats out there.
Trevelyan
08-28-2008, 06:34 PM
ive noticed in trade (& on ebay) that lots of the none removable boxes are squashed & out of shape. im lucky if they are near a good condition CIB, & Id like that at least because im a bored collector
DDCecil
08-28-2008, 11:04 PM
Here's some more for your list:

Banjo-Kazooie (nr)
Doom 64 (r)
Duck Dodgers (nr)
Earthworm Jim 3D (nr)
Goldeneye - Player's Choice (nr)
izarate
08-28-2008, 11:37 PM
1080º snowboarding (nr)
Waverace 64 (r)
Super Smash Bros. (nr)
Star Fox 64 w/Rumble Pak (r)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Collector's Edition (nr)
Pilotwings 64 (r)
Jet Force Gemini (nr)
F-1 World Grand Prix (nr)
Kirby 64 The Crystal Shards (nr)
Star Wars Rogue Squadron (nr)
Castlevania (nr)
Castlevania Legacy of Darkness (nr)
Resident Evil 2 (nr)
World Driver Championship (nr)
Harvest Moon 64 (nr)
Ogre Battle 64 Person of Lordy Caliber (r)
Turok (r)
Body Harvest (nr)
Mischief Makers (r)
Winback (nr)
Starcraft 64 (nr)
Hybrid Heaven (nr)