NES titles with NES-joint-01 search...

[Immutable]

Long time, no post!

Lately, I have been looking for some of the first NES titles with the NES-joint-01 converter. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any at my local flea market, so if anyone is willing to sell/trade a NES game with the converter board inside, let me know.

I'm looking for the following (possible) titles:

Mike Tyson's Punch-out (just a rumor?)
10-Yard Fight
Baseball
Clu Clu Land
Golf
Ice Climber
Kung Fu
Mach Rider
Super Mario Bros.
Tennis
Wild Gunman

I have a couple duplicate titles I'm willing to trade or sell:

Gyromite
Hogan's Alley
Pinball
Excitebike

Let me know if you are interested.

[InsaneDavid]

One left (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119504). Also a premade converter for a little more, my last one of those as well. No trades, you'll probably NEVER find anyone that will trade you one-for-one on these cartridges (converter rich for normal).

[Roger_Wilco]

I have Super Mario Bros. and gyromite that has the converter and I might trade with you but you have to offer better or more then what is shown. If your interested, make an another offer. By the way if your gyromite has 5 screws in the back then it has the converter chip.

[Immutable]

Thanks for the feeback, guys. I guess my search will continue.

By the way, Dave, would you say that $30 is the top price for them now? I was able to sell them for $20 about 3 years ago. If they are that rare, then I can understand the price jump.

Also, Roger, all the converter games have the five screws in the back. Thanks for the advice. :)

[Ryaan1234]

By the way if your gyromite has 5 screws in the back then it has the converter chip.

I don't think that's entirely true. All of the games with the convertors will have 5 screws, but I don't think that all 5-screw versions of those games have the convertor. I bought a 5-screw "flat-top" Gyromite just a week ago just to take it home and find out that it had no convertor. That's the 2nd 5-screw Gyromite that I've bought that doesn't have a convertor.

[Immutable]

Hmm, I know one could use a scale to detemine its weight. The converters weigh over three ounces; the regular carts weigh a bit under three ounces.

..however, I just found a link in regards to this.

http://thewarpzone.classicgaming.gamespy.com/famadapt.html

[InsaneDavid]

If your interested, make an another offer. By the way if your gyromite has 5 screws in the back then it has the converter chip.

PLEASE don't spread false information. There are plenty of five screw games, including tons of Gyromite, that don't have converters inside.


By the way, Dave, would you say that $30 is the top price for them now? I was able to sell them for $20 about 3 years ago. If they are that rare, then I can understand the price jump.

Yes, $20.00 - $30.00 is about where I'd place the high value. The deal you linked at The Warp Zone is correct, but only partially, there are other criteria that must be met but that's one of the big ones.

Somewhat recent thread about this (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120787).

[The Manimal]

If there's 5 screws and the cart ALSO seems slightly heavier..it's probably in there.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

If there's 5 screws and the cart ALSO seems slightly heavier..it's probably in there.

You'd be surprised.

I went through about 20-30 copies of Gyromite in the past year and only two 5-screw models had converters in them ... and numerous times I THOUGHT that one felt heavier than another only to open them up and find that there was no converter to be found.

Also, a majority of the "telling" signs about the labels (TM marks and color variations) proved to not reveal a converter.

[Tupin]

The ultimate way to tell if it has a converter in it is if the pins at the bottom are off-center.

[InsaneDavid]

The ultimate way to tell if it has a converter in it is if the pins at the bottom are off-center.

In addition to other criteria which must be met first. I have many cartridges that have the manufacturing tabs on the connectors to one side that don't have converters. But again, yes, that's the most important thing once you cover the basics.

[MachineGex]

In addition to other criteria which must be met first. I have many cartridges that have the manufacturing tabs on the connectors to one side that don't have converters. But again, yes, that's the most important thing once you cover the basics.

If you knew this, why didnt you just say it from the start?

[InsaneDavid]

If you knew this, why didnt you just say it from the start?

R-E-S-E-A-R-C-H, find out what it means to me.

I know a lot of stuff I don't got spewing out everywhere, I have enough of a reputation as a now-it-all as it is. Besides, figuring this stuff out for yourself, or at least having an idea about it and exploring such, is how you learn this hobby inside out - from the technical side anyway.

When I do have the time to properly document things I usually make long tutorials about them, examples are all over my site...

JVC X'Eye cartridge region switch mod.
JVC X'Eye CD drive lid close pinswitch repair.
A long editorial about converters in NES cartridges (still need to add the part about the connectors, but the article is constantly being updated with new information, as are all the things I write).
Two year restoration log of a 30+ year old Pachinko machine (10+ e-mails a week going over repairs with people restoring their machines)

Granted I am way behind with a lot of stuff but I moved recently.

[MarioMania]

Any Pic's under the Cart..Not just a drawing

[Blitzwing256]

Long time, no post!

Lately, I have been looking for some of the first NES titles with the NES-joint-01 converter. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any at my local flea market, so if anyone is willing to sell/trade a NES game with the converter board inside, let me know.

I'm looking for the following (possible) titles:

Mike Tyson's Punch-out (just a rumor?)
10-Yard Fight
Baseball
Clu Clu Land
Golf
Ice Climber
Kung Fu
Mach Rider
Super Mario Bros.
Tennis
Wild Gunman

I have a couple duplicate titles I'm willing to trade or sell:

Gyromite
Hogan's Alley
Pinball
Excitebike

Let me know if you are interested.


hmm i've never heard of smb or punchout having the converter, i'd think punchout to be highly unlikely as it came out some time later (and isn't the japanaese version a bit different with a differnt title screen?)
and kung fu definately not as it was called Spartan X in japan.

[theChad]

Yeah, I think there would be an issue with using something like SMB where you actually have some text other than the character's name...

[Tupin]

In addition to other criteria which must be met first. I have many cartridges that have the manufacturing tabs on the connectors to one side that don't have converters. But again, yes, that's the most important thing once you cover the basics.
Me too, but all of the ones I have encountered have the obvious signs of NOT having a converter in them. (Two tabs at top, three screws and security bits)

Besides that, the pin set is split into two parts, unlike first-generation Nintendo made titles where there is no space. An example I can think of right now is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Arcade Game.

[InsaneDavid]

Me too, but all of the ones I have encountered have the obvious signs of NOT having a converter in them. (Two tabs at top, three screws and security bits)

Which would be counted as criteria which must be met first. :)

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I just found one at the DP store this week!

(I always carry my mini flathead screwdriver with me when I visit.)

[mrmark0673]

Which would be counted as criteria which must be met first. :)

Why make it sound complicated?

5 screws and pins that are off center, you have a converter. Also, ALL Stack-Up carts have converters in them, so you can probably snag one of those for less than $20 easy enough. The games that are confirmed to have a converter are:

1942
Clu Clu Land
Donkey Kong Jr.
Duck Hunt
Elevator Action
Excitebike
Golf
Gumshoe
Gyromite
Hogan's Alley
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
Pinball
Raid on Bungeling Bay
Rygar
Soccer
Stack Up
Tennis
Urban Champion
Wizards and Warriors
Wrecking Crew

I personally wouldn't pay more than $15 for one, hope this helps!

[theChad]

Stack-up for $20? Please direct me to your sources.

[Tupin]

Seriously, I haven't seen a LOOSE Stack-Up cost less than $30 ANYWHERE.

I haven't seen many titles around here that have the characteristics of having a converter in them, I'll look harder even though I have one of those ribbon-style converters just because it would be nice to have.

[ooXxXoo]

R-E-S-E-A-R-C-H, find out what it means to me.

I know a lot of stuff I don't got spewing out everywhere, I have enough of a reputation as a now-it-all as it is. Besides, figuring this stuff out for yourself, or at least having an idea about it and exploring such, is how you learn this hobby inside out - from the technical side anyway.

When I do have the time to properly document things I usually make long tutorials about them, examples are all over my site...

JVC X'Eye cartridge region switch mod.
JVC X'Eye CD drive lid close pinswitch repair.
A long editorial about converters in NES cartridges (still need to add the part about the connectors, but the article is constantly being updated with new information, as are all the things I write).
Two year restoration log of a 30+ year old Pachinko machine (10+ e-mails a week going over repairs with people restoring their machines)

Granted I am way behind with a lot of stuff but I moved recently.

Big Deal, The Sega regions mods including the JVC X'Eye have been around since the internal Asics were invented, that you decided to write about it is totally different... Besides, I constantly get X'eye systems from customers to mod with the same mistake location to place and built-in the switch that you did, for me to fix.....All of this thanks to your tutorial.....Maybe you would want to keep things clean next time...

Anyone with little technical knowledge, will find out when there's a problem with a switch, Don't really need to be a genius for that....

ARROGANCE is never good....



.

[InsaneDavid]

Big Deal, The Sega regions mods including the JVC X'Eye have been around since the internal Asics were invented, that you decided to write it is totally different... Besides, I constantly get X'eye systems from customers to mod with the same mistake location to place and built-in the switch that you did for me to fix.....All of this thanks to your tutorial.....Maybe you would want to keep things clean next time...

Anyone with little technical knowledge, will find out when there's a problem with a switch, Don't really need to be a genius for that....

Dude, why do you follow me around these forums and flame everything I post, attacking my work and my character? What the hell did I ever do to you?

You seem to forget the key point of video games - to be fun. No, rather you have to constantly trash everything I post that is remotely technical in nature and thensome. You'd be surprised how many people don't know how to change the battery in their Saturn or that the only thing preventing a SNES from playing SFC cartridges is a pair of tabs. Excuse me for providing information, and that's all it is, information. Never have I said "this is the way it's done" - I have always stuck to "this is how I do it, if you do it the same be prepared to make changes along the way and do so at your own risk - but this should give you an idea, it's pretty interesting, huh?" That's R&D my friend, and I always toss mine right out there in public for others to learn from, both my mistakes and successes.

As for your comment about how people are screwing up their systems by placing the JVC X'Eye region switch where I put mine (in the way of one of the lid fins), I spell out the mistake in that very same tutorial...

"Personally I wanted to keep the switch close to the RCA jacks on the back of the system, however this caused a problem. Since I had never physically seen a US/JPN switch on an X'Eye I didn't have any preconception of what the ideal location for the switch would be, so I just put it where I wanted. Later when I went to put the top shell back on I realized that it wouldn't fit. The left fin (when oriented above the console) on the bottom of the CD lid, on the top shell, sat right where the switch I installed is. Not wanting to move the switch, I came up with a solution in modifying the lid fin. Basically I just cut it down."

...I worked around my mistake and there are no problems. If anything it shows to use more caution than I did at that point but also what to do if someone makes the same error.

I'm sorry, so very sorry for hoping to and trying to enhance and expand other's understanding of this amazing industry. God, how dare I, right? I mean, it's not like I'm funding my ski resort in Switzerland with the money I make doing this. Oh wait, I make none. What an awful waste of my time then, pitty me, please? I must be such a loser to contribute to the community because I enjoy it, rather than hide in the shadows and toss out a cryptic post or flame every now and again. Shame on me.

[mrmark0673]

Stack-up for $20? Please direct me to your sources.

The source is the Nintendo age price guide that is based EXCLUSIVELY off of EBay sales which prices the game to sell last month on EBay at an average of $19 per cart. The kicker? That is $1 more than it was the previous month.

It won't take too much work to find one under $20.

For example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-NES-Game-Stack-Up_W0QQitemZ180281528682QQihZ008QQcategoryZ139973Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-NES-Stack-Up-game_W0QQitemZ250289238365QQihZ015QQcategoryZ13997 3QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[MachineGex]

Here is one that sold for $9, including shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=300251177125

I looked for a couple of years and the only ones I have found have been in Gyromite carts. I have found 3 of them with converters out of 40-50 gyromites(over the last 3 years). I would estimate that 1 in 20 gyromites have a converter, maybe slightly higher(like 1 in 15).

[InsaneDavid]

What's really amazing is that every one of those Gyromite cartridges, converter or not, originally had a complete R.O.B. and Gyromite setup. Gyro pieces should be littering game stores at that rate.

[Tupin]

What's really amazing is that every one of those Gyromite cartridges, converter or not, originally had a complete R.O.B. and Gyromite setup. Gyro pieces should be littering game stores at that rate.
What stinks is that they aren't.

Nintendo didn't care about ROB, they got rid of him as soon as retailers started stocking NES's on a continual basis. The fact that only two games work with it is a testament to that fact.

Also, that guy that got Stack-Up for $9 with shipping is LUCKY.

[mrmark0673]

What's really amazing is that every one of those Gyromite cartridges, converter or not, originally had a complete R.O.B. and Gyromite setup. Gyro pieces should be littering game stores at that rate.

Why call out people for giving misinformation if you're going to do the same thing a few posts later? Gyromite was sold in the deluxe set with ROB, sold in a "Big Box" with ROB, or sold in a small box WITHOUT ROB.

As for the "lucky" $9 sale, what about the other auctions I posted? If you pay more than $20 for Stack-up loose, you paid too much.

[InsaneDavid]

Why call out people for giving misinformation if you're going to do the same thing a few posts later? Gyromite was sold in the deluxe set with ROB, sold in a "Big Box" with ROB, or sold in a small box WITHOUT ROB.

From what I've always seen the small standard full retail packaging was included in the larger sets.

[Immutable]

Why make it sound complicated?

5 screws and pins that are off center, you have a converter. Also, ALL Stack-Up carts have converters in them, so you can probably snag one of those for less than $20 easy enough. The games that are confirmed to have a converter are:

1942
Clu Clu Land
Donkey Kong Jr.
Duck Hunt
Elevator Action
Excitebike
Golf
Gumshoe
Gyromite
Hogan's Alley
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
Pinball
Raid on Bungeling Bay
Rygar
Soccer
Stack Up
Tennis
Urban Champion
Wizards and Warriors
Wrecking Crew

I personally wouldn't pay more than $15 for one, hope this helps!

Are you sure about 1942, Rygar, Raid on Bungling Bay, and Wizards and Warriors? They weren't made by Nintendo.

[mrmark0673]

From what I've always seen the small standard full retail packaging was included in the larger sets.

I was convinced otherwise until reading this, but you may very well be right.

As for the confirmed carts with fami converters, that list is supposed to consist of 100% confirmed carts with converters only. I didn't compile it so unfortunately I can't say for sure.

[InsaneDavid]

I was convinced otherwise until reading this, but you may very well be right.

As for the confirmed carts with fami converters, that list is supposed to consist of 100% confirmed carts with converters only. I didn't compile it so unfortunately I can't say for sure.

I'd be shocked at Nintendo's stupidity if they released Gyromite standalone since you couldn't get R.O.B. standalone (unless I'm wrong about that) but they have done stranger things during their history. From what I understand there were two ways to get R.O.B.: the Deluxe Set and the Gyro Set. The Deluxe Set was the NES bundle with the system, controllers, Zapper, R.O.B. and Gyromite and Duck Hunt. I know the games in the Deluxe Set were full retail boxed copies of Duck Hunt and Gyromite rather than loose cartridges. I've never seen the full inside packaging for the Gyro Set but if I recall correctly the outer box looks like a GIANT Gyromite box which housed a complete (Gyromite setup) R.O.B. and a full retail box Gyromite.

Personally I've only found converters in Gyromite, Hogan's Alley and Pinball. (all StackUp's will have them as well, I just don't see the point in destroying an uncommon game) I could have sworn I pulled one out of a Duck Hunt at one point but since I don't have a picture of it (or a loose Famicom Duck Hunt board) I doubt it happened. That's not to say all those above won't possibly have converters. If someone does find one of those oddball games that has a board in it, please post a picture!

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120300965433

Here's a non-R.O.B. set with no standard box.

This set strikes me as downright bizarre. Was R.O.B. EVER available WITHOUT those parts??

[Blitzwing256]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120300965433

Here's a non-R.O.B. set with no standard box.

This set strikes me as downright bizarre. Was R.O.B. EVER available WITHOUT those parts??

yup rob was available as just rob, a pretty rare piece to find, a forum member here found 2 sealed ones about a year ago, i've only ever seen one other set (my friend had that and the big box gyromite when he was younger) sadly he threw the box out about a month before he gave me the games/pieces! (bastard!)

and just for other refrence stackup was ONLY avialable in the us in the big box.

[Astrosmash]

I could have sworn I pulled one out of a Duck Hunt at one point but since I don't have a picture of it (or a loose Famicom Duck Hunt board) I doubt it happened. That's not to say all those above won't possibly have converters. If someone does find one of those oddball games that has a board in it, please post a picture!

I don't have a picture at the moment - if I have time tomorrow I'll see if I can get one then - but I can confirm Duck Hunt's existence with converters as I own a cart with one myself. (That said, I haven't taken it out - the adapter I actually use came from, big surprise, a Gyromite cart.)

[InsaneDavid]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120300965433

Here's a non-R.O.B. set with no standard box.

This set strikes me as downright bizarre. Was R.O.B. EVER available WITHOUT those parts??


yup rob was available as just rob, a pretty rare piece to find, a forum member here found 2 sealed ones about a year ago, i've only ever seen one other set (my friend had that and the big box gyromite when he was younger) sadly he threw the box out about a month before he gave me the games/pieces! (bastard!)

and just for other refrence stackup was ONLY avialable in the us in the big box.

Well damn, very interesting. The rarity must be through the roof on both of those arrangements. If anything then that says that for every copy of Gyromite there should at least be a full set of Gyromite parts sans R.O.B. out there. I take it that auction that Frankie linked to should prove Gyromite was never released in the small retail box alone? Thanks guys!


Any Pic's under the Cart..Not just a drawing

Here, again, I need to update my page but I have the graphic already...

http://www.classicplastic.net/digitalpress/editorials-davidnesconvert009.jpg

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/nes/peripherals/images/rob.jpg

Here's a R.O.B. with what I guess is a solo-R.O.B. retail box, though it's multi-lingual, so this may be Canadian?

And what's with the Mattell branding on the box?

[Cornelius]

And what's with the Mattell branding on the box?
If I recall correctly, early on Nintendo partnered with Mattel for distribution and marketing, as they didn't feel like they knew how to penetrate the US market on their own. Or was it Worlds of Wonder they partnered with? I don't remember for sure, but that's my bet guess.

[y-bot]

I just sold a very early boxed NES with R.O.B. that was NOT a "Deluxe Set". I think everything was the same besides the marking on the box. The Gyromite had a converter but Duck Hunt did not. The serial number on the console was 11,000 something.

y-bot

[MachineGex]

I thought Mattel was the nintendo distributor for Europe. Or was it S. America? I have so many cobwebs in my head, I am lucky to remember how to get home at the end of the day.

BTW...David, nice picture. That should help a lot of people. I was lucky enough to find a store that had dozens of Gyromites and only a few had convertors. For those who have actively searched for converters, do you agree with the 1-20 (or slightly higher 1-15) figure for gyromites? Meaning on average, for every 20 gyromites you check, just one will have a converter.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I thought Mattel was the nintendo distributor for Europe. Or was it S. America? I have so many cobwebs in my head, I am lucky to remember how to get home at the end of the day.

BTW...David, nice picture. That should help a lot of people. I was lucky enough to find a store that had dozens of Gyromites and only a few had convertors. For those who have actively searched for converters, do you agree with the 1-20 (or slightly higher 1-15) figure for gyromites? Meaning on average, for every 20 gyromites you check, just one will have a converter.

I absolutely agree.

In my personal experience, this year, at the DP store I've checked well over 20 and only come away with a few converters.

[Blitzwing256]

I just sold a very early boxed NES with R.O.B. that was NOT a "Deluxe Set". I think everything was the same besides the marking on the box. The Gyromite had a converter but Duck Hunt did not. The serial number on the console was 11,000 something.

y-bot

i'd be very curious to see what that box looked like, did you save the pictures?

[Kitsune Sniper]

I'm pretty sure Mattel distributed games mostly in PAL / Europe regions.

As for that gyromite set, I sold that box (no contents) a while ago. I thought it contained the whole ROB set, guess I was wrong...

[Tupin]

I'm pretty sure Mattel distributed games mostly in PAL / Europe regions.

As for that gyromite set, I sold that box (no contents) a while ago. I thought it contained the whole ROB set, guess I was wrong...

Yes, Mattel distributed in Australia/Europe. Worlds of Wonder distributed it in America up until 1988, and they went out of business almost as soon as Nintendo took over distribution themselves.

Anyway, besides Gyromite, I'm assuming the top two games that have converters in them are Pinball and Hogan's Alley?

[y-bot]

i'd be very curious to see what that box looked like, did you save the pictures?

I didn't take any pictures of it. I just got it the other day and I sold it at PAX for $300. As far as I can tell the box design is the same as the Deluxe Set but it just doesn't say "Deluxe Set". I should have taken pictures but I was in such a rush to get things ready for PAX I just didn't have time. It even had the warning papers on the gyros. It was super clean.

y-bot

[Immutable]

Personally I've only found converters in Gyromite, Hogan's Alley and Pinball. (all StackUp's will have them as well, I just don't see the point in destroying an uncommon game) I could have sworn I pulled one out of a Duck Hunt at one point but since I don't have a picture of it (or a loose Famicom Duck Hunt board) I doubt it happened. That's not to say all those above won't possibly have converters. If someone does find one of those oddball games that has a board in it, please post a picture!

I can do that for Excitebike.

[Immutable]

Here are the pics of Excitebike.

http://www.geocities.com/immutabledude/e.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/immutabledude/e2.jpg

[Tupin]

Can I see a close up of the pins?

From a distance, they just look rectangular.

Guess I'll look for a converter in Excitebike too.

[InsaneDavid]

Thanks Immutable. Now that I think of it I believe I've found one in an Excitebike at one point as well. I made a LOT of converters over the years before I started documenting them.


Can I see a close up of the pins?

From a distance, they just look rectangular.

Guess I'll look for a converter in Excitebike too.

:frustrated:

Take a look at the picture I posted, that's how it is - that's how they all are if they're converters. You have to check ALL early Nintendo releases as any of the early black box Nintendo titles may contain them if all proper criteria are met. How much more information can possibly be given?

[JohnD]

Does anyone have an image of what this converter looks like within the cartridge? I'd love to see what it looks like and I haven't checked my old black box games to see if they have the converter. Thanks.

[y-bot]

Does anyone have an image of what this converter looks like within the cartridge? I'd love to see what it looks like and I haven't checked my old black box games to see if they have the converter. Thanks.

There's a pic on page two of this thread a few posts from the bottom of Excitebike with the converter.

y-bot

[JohnD]

Thanks! I missed that. Now to start checking my old black box games...

[PixelSmasher]

Are these adaptors worth anything on their own to the collector's market?

[Immutable]

PixelSmasher, they're worth more than what they are being sold for in their "game format" (except for Stack-up). The major problem is that eBay is not allowing them to be sold on their site because they are Japanese to US game converters. I never quite understood why this was such a big deal since Nintendo is heavily focusing on the Wii and the DS.

[Tupin]

PixelSmasher, they're worth more than what they are being sold for in their "game format" (except for Stack-up). The major problem is that eBay is not allowing them to be sold on their site because they are Japanese to US game converters. I never quite understood why this was such a big deal since Nintendo is heavily focusing on the Wii and the DS.
Just like them deleting whenever there is a prototype for sale that isn't like $5000.

Also, I found one in a copy of Hogan's Alley. Doesn't seem you can actually put the game directly onto the circuitry unless you break off the screw holes or disassemble the game, which is hard to do since it has no screws.

[Immutable]

Just like them deleting whenever there is a prototype for sale that isn't like $5000.

Also, I found one in a copy of Hogan's Alley. Doesn't seem you can actually put the game directly onto the circuitry unless you break off the screw holes or disassemble the game, which is hard to do since it has no screws.

Yeah, I wish there was another auction site that would allow them.

Hogan's Alley is a common one with it, but I have yet to find one in Urban Champion...

[Tupin]

Yeah, I wish there was another auction site that would allow them.

Hogan's Alley is a common one with it, but I have yet to find one in Urban Champion...
Neither have I.

I also think that Yahoo Auctions let people trade prototypes before they closed their American site. Craigslist and obviously Chase the Chuckwagon all allow the sale of protos.

I could understand if it was a prototype of an Operating system, but we're talking about twenty year old games that no one outside of a small group care about.

[darkslime]

Could someone explain to me what a converter cart is?

Sorry for sounding like a n00b, but I am.

[InsaneDavid]

Also, I found one in a copy of Hogan's Alley. Doesn't seem you can actually put the game directly onto the circuitry unless you break off the screw holes or disassemble the game, which is hard to do since it has no screws.

You have to file down the passthrough so that a Famicom cartridge will fit on it. Again, there's a LOT more to it than just finding a converter, a lot of work has to be done - which is why my pre-made converters were always popular.


Could someone explain to me what a converter cart is?

Sorry for sounding like a n00b, but I am.

Read my editorial (http://www.classicplastic.net/dvgi/editorials-davidnesconvert.html).

[Immutable]

Cool page, Dave! It's in my favorites.

By the way, if you want to use the pic of Excitebike, feel free.

Also, I saw the Famicom rom for Pinball. That thing is huge compared to the ones I found. I have Pinball rom chips that are the same size as Gyromite's.

[InsaneDavid]

Cool page, Dave! It's in my favorites.

By the way, if you want to use the pic of Excitebike, feel free.

Also, I saw the Famicom rom for Pinball. That thing is huge compared to the ones I found. I have Pinball rom chips that are the same size as Gyromite's.

Yeah, it's pretty common in electronic design to constantly attempt to make things have fewer components as technology advances which in turn makes products cheaper to produce. Some of the games have a bunch of big IC's while others will have fewer (more efficient design) components and others will have gloptops instead.

[BIGMIKE]

woohoo just found one in excitebike myself...........

[Immutable]

woohoo just found one in excitebike myself...........

Nice find, BigMike!

...now if I can only find it in Clu Clu Land, Ice Climber, or Urban Champion...

[BIGMIKE]

thanks immutable. was just looking at the thread to see what other games i might have to check and see. had a gyro and checked when i got it but wasn't in there. that was about a year ago and just let it go. is there a tuturial for what to do once a person finds a converter?

[Immutable]

See InsaneDavid's link above for his editorial.

If you don't want to take his route, you can just take the adapter out alone. Then flip the black piece 180, put the JP cart on the top so that the back of it is facing the same side as the "Nintendo" labeled side of the adapter, and place it in the top loading NES so that the back side of the JP cart faces you. If you have a front loading NES, make sure the front of the JP cart is facing down.

[theChad]

See InsaneDavid's link above for his editorial.

If you don't want to take his route, you can just take the adapter out alone. Then flip the black piece 180, put the JP cart on the top so that the back of it is facing the same side as the "Nintendo" labeled side of the adapter, and place it in the top loading NES so that the back side of the JP cart faces you. If you have a front loading NES, make sure the front of the JP cart is facing down.

Like you see in David's tutorial though, the converter needs to be ground, filed, or sanded down in order to fit. I sanded mine by hand just by laying a piece of sandpaper flat on the table and rubbing the converter back and forth on it and it didn't really take too long, so I wouldn't worry about messing with an angle grinder or anything too fancy.