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alexander4488
09-03-2008, 12:24 AM
Hello. My name is Alexander Badr. I am the Game Dude. Inspired by the Angry Video Game Nerd, I satirically review video games. Please watch my videos and let me know what you think. Thank you.

Episode #1 - Sonic the Hedgehog Review Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc8Obd6qYLo

Episode #1 - Sonic the Hedgehog Review Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WV22o1P50M

Episode #2 - Barbie Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A38zsStjSE4

Episode #3 - Sonic Riders Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHKkjlRrsSQ

Episode #4 - Crash of the Titans Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_11eYaIXcXM

Episode #4 - Crash of the Titans Review Revised - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mcgFT5Hsow

Episode #5 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g6SJhDl4pA

Episode #6 - Spyro The Eternal Night Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCm2Gc58ueY

Episode #7 - TMNT Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgeQtY2cgvk

Episode #8 - The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2cd9GXCQ_c

Episode #9 - Chameleon Twist Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIx6WfG-lCc

Episode #10 - Tail of the Sun Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW6P6HgYUrc

Episode #11 - Kirby Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDhWoltZWOI

Episode #12 - Bill & Ted's Excellent Video Game Adventure Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Co0dLn8vzA

Episode #13 - Alvin & the Chipmunks Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNdDEYT_okA

Episode #14 - Donkey Kong Review Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvHvwh33uRM

Episode #14 - Donkey Kong Review Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAAVDuQ1KQY&feature=player_embedded

Episode #14 - Donkey Kong Review Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrT6yyt94

Episode #15 - Bubsy Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awwCFyHyLJg

Episode #16 - Star Fox Review Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj_LQB9snM0

Episode #16 - Star Fox Review Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51cNqOH6vPc

Episode #17 - Conker Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8B1_BadryI&feature=player_embedded

Episode #18 - Banjo Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0KoFbud9Q0

Episode #19 - Mickey Mousecapade Review Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-EWIDoo_WE

Episode #19 - Mickey Mousecapade Review Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROxh1e4xTQE

Episode #20 - Blinx Review Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USp_o3tlCv8

Episode #20 - Blinx Review Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWKrmwxevHU

NEXT REVIEW - The Cat in the Hat

Kitsune Sniper
09-03-2008, 12:38 AM
All videos are inspired by the Nerd.

... Uh oh. D:

I tried watching your Mario Kart video and it was going fine until you cut to yourself and said something horrifying.

Seriously dude, just do your own thing. Don't be "inspired" by the AVGN (I'm guessing you're inspired by him since you don't seem to be taking cues from the Happy one.) Just do your own thing.

G-Boobie
09-03-2008, 12:52 AM
... Uh oh. D:

I tried watching your Mario Kart video and it was going fine until you cut to yourself and said something horrifying.

Seriously dude, just do your own thing. Don't be "inspired" by the AVGN (I'm guessing you're inspired by him since you don't seem to be taking cues from the Happy one.) Just do your own thing.

Yeah. Kitsune got it.

I don't want to seem rude or dismissive because I can tell your heart is in the right place, but basically you need to seriously look at what you're doing and try to differentiate yourself from the already crowded Retro Game YouTube Reviewer pack. You're going to be lost in the noise.

Just my two cents. I think you have talent and an obvious love of the subject matter, but that isn't enough in the already saturated YouTube scene. Sorry dude.

DigitalSpace
09-03-2008, 01:03 AM
How (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121522) many (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121523) threads (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121524) are you going to start here?

And instead of spamming, why didn't you just bump the thread you made a month ago (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120208)?

bb_hood
09-03-2008, 01:09 AM
Your videos are horrible. Just spend your time doing something else.
Also try reviewing a game that not everyone has already played.
EVERYONE has already played mario kart.

TheRealist50
09-03-2008, 01:15 AM
you have potential man.

InsaneDavid
09-03-2008, 01:19 AM
YOUR GUIDE to all the posts about this same thing!!

Post about this #1 (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121524).

Post about this #2 (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121523).

Post about this #3 (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121522).

Post about this #4 (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120208). This one is the old original post, and where this "discussion" should have stayed and continued.

In other words, dude, we really don't care since all you've done here is spam for the most part.

PapaStu
09-03-2008, 01:45 AM
You've done 4 threads..... you've now got one thread.

Keep it here, or find another place to spam.

Mianrtcv
09-03-2008, 09:55 AM
You've done 4 threads..... you've now got one thread.

Keep it here, or find another place to spam.

4 Threads... Maybe he finds inspiration from Sesame Street's The Count. One thread, two threads...

megasdkirby
09-03-2008, 10:05 AM
Only funny part I found was when he mentioned Wario was humping the car...

You talk too fast, which is VERY annoying.

Your insults don't make any sense.

It lacks depth and originality. It's definitely a blatant ripoff from AVGN. Hell, even HVGN is more interesting to watch.

Daria
09-03-2008, 10:13 AM
Oh god. It's the guy that raises the pitch of his voice at the end of every sentence like questions. Or as previously mentioned in one of those other four threads, haikus. Maybe school will help straighten out that weird speech pattern thing you have going there.

megasdkirby
09-03-2008, 10:15 AM
I can't believe I saw the entire Mario Kart video.

I can do a review too! Just let me write everything in paper and simply read as fast as I can...also throw in a couple of lame jokes and irrational insults to the mix.

DONE!

Berserker
09-03-2008, 10:54 AM
If they suck, it doesn't matter. I don't like them. Maybe you will.

Then why do you keep dumping them here? I agree with Stu that this thread shouldn't be locked at this point, but you'll be tempabanned if you start another one about it.

These forums aren't your own personal advertising board, they're a place to talk about (mostly) video games. So make conversation, make silence, or make tracks.

k8track
09-03-2008, 11:21 AM
I absolutely loathe, abhor, and despise the few AVGN and AVGN-esque videos that I've ever wasted my time watching. I absolutely cannot stand these little teens, tweens, and twentysomethings liberally sprinkling their attempts at "reviews" with their smarmy, snarky comments, quick-cut, MTV-style editing, "clever" graphics and soundbites, and background emo soundtracks. Maybe it's because I'm in my late thirties that I feel so disconnected, but I like to think it's because I have a modicum of taste.

The one AVGN video that really boiled my blood was where he totally ripped on the Atari 5200 (which happens to be my favorite system). What a waste of time. He just spent the entire ten minutes or so showing (via horrible acting) how "difficult" it was to set up and how he wasn't able to play any of the games. One of his points was that the system and the trackball ("bigger than an NES!") were "ginormous". How does that affect the quality of the games? He was also (fake-)perplexed with the cord set-up. And yes, we all know the controllers were notoriously bad, so going the extra mile to find a workaround is the only hurdle to an otherwise excellent system. But his whole purpose was just to defame and rip on it. Yet another younger-generation gamer who just doesn't get it. (Disclaimer--I have nothing against people younger than me... just the aforementioned types of douchebags.)

The video game videos on youtube that I do enjoy are the walkthrough/speed-run solution videos, with straight-up playing and NO talking or cutting away to the person playing it. I get a thrill from watching someone going all the way through the NES Rygar and SMS R-Type and Wonderboy III without taking a single hit.

As for you, Game Dude, you need to change up your game, because, as everyone else here has mentioned, you're merely aping the AVGN, a very poor template to begin with. And it's quite difficult for us to care about you when you clearly don't care about getting to know us and interact with our community--you're only interested in spamming us to promote yourself. Abort mission.

GrandAmChandler
09-03-2008, 11:24 AM
I got through half of it. I had to close the window. Too many profanities. Want to be taken seriously? Stop trying to stand out via shock factor, and make yourself stand out via content in your reviews. I don't understand the fascination with these "shock reviewers" Sure the AVGN was pretty funny the first 7 times, but I prefer more substance, say Zero Punctuation for instance. Not to say Yahtzee isn't vulgar, but he uses it by being coy, rather than blunt.

Things to avoid in video game reviews:

-any vulgar word used excessively. The greatest comics use these words sparingly or not at all.
-any name of any animal (We get it, you said Hippo Urine. Ha. ROFL!) :shameful:
-Phallic references
-Cuts to yourself. No one really cares. Show us more game.
-Bad Timing, Bad Voice (Not to say you can help these things, but if your reviews are hard on the ear, no one is going to pay attention.)

EDIT: K8track beat me to it. Thanks buddy!

-GAC-

slip81
09-03-2008, 11:36 AM
epic fail

RagedGamer
09-03-2008, 11:51 AM
Damn you talk fast. Vids are ok you're off to a good start just stop watching other reviewers for inspiration and start making your own.

MachineGex
09-03-2008, 12:06 PM
Your voice and speech pattern drive me crazy.
After watching a couple of your videos, I am left wondering if you are a robot or alien?

TheRealist50
09-03-2008, 12:11 PM
yeah, try not to swear as much. Someone who swears every other word is not really taken seriously. you can still be funny and not swear and in the end, THAT takes more creativity then just saying "this game is like (insert animal here) shit"

Also, when you constantly say "as the angry video game nerd always says..." or mentioning that your inspired by the AVGN, doesn't help. It just draws attention to the fact that you really are just trying to rip him off.
To be totally honest, AVGN isn't as funny to me anymore. At first he was so funny...now...I'm bored, Its just the same poop jokes over and over again.

Oobgarm
09-03-2008, 12:18 PM
http://www.nataliedee.com/121206/trash-delivered-right-to-your-door.jpg

Except, it's like Youtube is the mailbox, and your reviews are inside. Find a new way to express yourself, cause this one's not working at all.

Kitsune Sniper
09-03-2008, 12:53 PM
RE: The AVGN 2600 video, it's just a joke. He does that on purpose, just watch it as a comedy video - don't take the guy seriously. I actually liked the 2600 video because it was pretty stupid... I found it to be almost a parody of how "modern" gamers would see such a system.

(For the record, I didn't get to play a 2600 back in the day because I was a baby. I started to play on a NES and aren't into the Atari systems but I still respect them, aheh.)


The video game videos on youtube that I do enjoy are the walkthrough/speed-run solution videos, with straight-up playing and NO talking or cutting away to the person playing it. I get a thrill from watching someone going all the way through the NES Rygar and SMS R-Type and Wonderboy III without taking a single hit.

And here I disagree with you. While I LIKE watching these videos, speed runs bore me because they're so -perfect-! I like to watch people play like a normal person would, not as a machine. But that's just me, though.

megasdkirby
09-03-2008, 01:07 PM
RE: The AVGN 2600 video, it's just a joke. He does that on purpose, just watch it as a comedy video - don't take the guy seriously. I actually liked the 2600 video because it was pretty stupid... I found it to be almost a parody of how "modern" gamers would see such a system.

(For the record, I didn't get to play a 2600 back in the day because I was a baby. I started to play on a NES and aren't into the Atari systems but I still respect them, aheh.)

Isn't it the 5200? :)

Anyway, you are right. I never take videos to heart. If I did, I would have hated him for Batman ROTJ. I just laught and think back at the times that happened to me.

Lady Jaye
09-03-2008, 02:03 PM
What k8track and GAC said.

As I've said before, SpoonyOne is one of the few that pulls the game review vlog well because 1. he picks games that no one else covers (Dirty Dancing Official PC game anyone?); 2. he's articulate (ie. he has good vocabulary and he can speak in front of a camera); 3. even though he does the "angry geek" schtick, he doesn't overdo it; 4. and even though he does swear in his reviews, he also uses other words.

www.youtube.com/user/spoonyone

c0ldb33r
09-03-2008, 02:16 PM
Damn Lady Jaye beat me to it. Spoony One is the best. His latest review about 3DO demolition man was FANTASTIC. I also like the fact his video lengths are out of the mainstream. Most others seem to have three to five minute reviews. Spoony's go on for 20 or 30 minutes, and their great throughout. On top of that, unlike a lot of youtube reviewers he actually seems to prepare and put some thought into it.

Someone above mentioned that they don't want to see "cut to the reviewer" scenes. I actually like these. Maybe it's because it's nice putting a face to the voice, or maybe it's because most video game reviewers do not do this and also suck. Not a causation thing, merely a correlation.

edit: Here is a link to spoony's revver account - he actually gets a few cents if someone watches a revver video (instead of youtube from which he gets nothing) - http://www.revver.com/u/SpoonyOne/

Kitsune Sniper
09-03-2008, 02:39 PM
Spoony IS the guy that made me want to go into reviewing stuff. I love his videos... I refuse to watch a few of 'em though, I haven't beaten Fox Hunt or Johnny Mnemonic. :p

Lady Jaye
09-03-2008, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the heads up about his revver account, I'll certainly encourage him. :D

zemmix
09-03-2008, 02:44 PM
By the way, those videos might as well not exist, now that I'm actually in school, so consider their existence to be a bonus.

I think everyone here would be happier if they didn't exist. Bonus? lol

SegaAges
09-03-2008, 02:47 PM
Well an example of video game stuff I like to watch is not speedruns, but stuff where somebody busts their @$$ to do one thing in a game.

There are a bunch of videos from chilastra (the star wars server i play on) where I frapped a bunch of stuff that people did in space.

Basically, I want to watch a video that captures what it is like to play a game. It doesn't need to be from start to finish, but just a good moment in the game, and honestly, those videos are not easy to find.

It is all either people doing stuff perfect, or random people cussing when they play games.

Give me, even if it is small, a memorable moment in the game, that is all I ask for. if the most memorable moment is a bad one, show it, and show why it is so difficult. AVGN is able to do that if you ignore his cussing. Some of the other imitators just cuss alot and think it is awesome.

And as for the funniest comedians not cussing, sorry, I disagree. Richard Prior is a comedic genius and he cusses like crazy. It is all based on the person themselves. Bill Cosby is an excellent comedian, and he would never cuss. Bob Saget cusses like crazy. Robin Williams cusses every once in awhile. There is nothing wrong with cussing as long as your jokes are funny. If your jokes are not funny, being stupid and using cuss words will not help you. A perfect example is Richard Prior. If you edited all of his cuss words with "p.c." words, you would still laugh like crazy. Think about some of these reviews when you do that same thing:
"This game is worse than rhino poop and makes me want to put my head up a elephants bum and smell the poop." Uh, not all that great. Besides, South Park is better with their fart and poop jokes, watch that show if you are looking for that, because, whether you like the show or not, South Park is very good and executing poop and fart jokes.

k8track
09-03-2008, 06:10 PM
RE: The AVGN 2600 video, it's just a joke. He does that on purpose, just watch it as a comedy video - don't take the guy seriously. I actually liked the 2600 video because it was pretty stupid... I found it to be almost a parody of how "modern" gamers would see such a system.

Oh yeah, I knew the 5200 (I think that's what you meant) video was just a joke and not to be taken seriously, but it still enraged me nonetheless; I did not find it at all funny. It just really, really bugged the snot out of me. I found it really... cheap.


(For the record, I didn't get to play a 2600 back in the day because I was a baby. I started to play on a NES and aren't into the Atari systems but I still respect them, aheh.)

Cool. You represent the type of gamer I like; not everyone was born right at the beginning of the video game era, and you gotta start somewhere, and that's cool, especially if you have a high regard and respect for things before your time (for example, I'm obsessed with tons of things that were around decades before I was born). What rubs me the wrong way is when younger people (not all, mind you) automatically thumb their nose at the older systems and games that were around before they were born. Such people regard older games as kitschy at best, or horrible and primitive at worst, because they are outside their frame of reference and experience. As for myself, I personally don't care for most latest-generation games because they are far too lifelike; I want my games to look like video games, not real life. It always makes me cringe when I hear about little kids, having been raised on PS3 and Xbox 360, complaining about the "bad graphics" of older systems.


And here I disagree with you. While I LIKE watching these videos, speed runs bore me because they're so -perfect-! I like to watch people play like a normal person would, not as a machine. But that's just me, though.

Well, actually, we don't disagree all that much; I really just like seeing them played all the way through to learn how to do it and what the later stages look like. I wouldn't mind if they died a few times along the way. I was just sort of amazed at how perfect they did it without dying (then again, they COULD be spliced together from various save states). I know that I would be hit and die a million times myself.

alexander4488
10-13-2008, 03:59 PM
Ignore.

alexander4488
10-13-2008, 04:02 PM
Ignore.

PapaStu
10-13-2008, 04:23 PM
PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD AND REOPEN MY NEW ONE. I had everything organized. The old one is messy and I can't edit the title. I want the new one to stay forever. Not the old one. Close the old one. Reopen the new one. I said I won't make any more. I don't want this one to be the thread that will stay forever. I want the old one. I had everything laid out perfectly, and someone had to close it. I wrote that if any other threads exist, please just close them down. If this doesn't happen, I'll just make another, final one, and leave it at that.


You see, now theres this magical thing called editing. Just go and edit your first post by copy/pasting in the stuff that had been locked in your most recent thread if thats what you want the first post to be. You can also edit the thread title as well if you go into the advanced editing options once you've hit edit on that first post.

Last I looked, this thread already had the title GameDude in it so your fans knew who you were post the previous name change. If you are unable to figure out how to edit the title, I can do so for you. You will however not get another new thread, it is unnecessary.

mnkysuit
10-13-2008, 05:41 PM
Saying "fuck" in every sentence is so hip right now.

Flack
10-13-2008, 05:52 PM
PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD AND REOPEN MY NEW ONE. I had everything organized. The old one is messy and I can't edit the title. I want the new one to stay forever. Not the old one. Close the old one. Reopen the new one. I said I won't make any more. I don't want this one to be the thread that will stay forever. I want the old one. I had everything laid out perfectly, and someone had to close it. I wrote that if any other threads exist, please just close them down. If this doesn't happen, I'll just make another, final one, and leave it at that.

You are perilously close to not "staying here forever." Keep your angry schtick directed toward the (undeserving) games you review and not the staff of this forum, kthx.

alexander4488
10-20-2008, 05:22 AM
Spoonyone is okay, but I don't think he's scripted. I think scripted is a lot harder than non-scripted, because by improvising, you sound more real, but by reading a script, unless you're a very good actor, you sound fake, and that's the main problem I'm having now.

Armake21, Spoonyone, and many others, are good, but they're not scripted, and like they say, "It's worse before it's better." I've skipped the non-scripting to directly focus on scripting. I think scripting is better than non-scripting because it's more professional. So once I master scripting, then I'll be a lot better. I don't know. I'm guessing.

I've been doing this for three months, and I started school one month ago, so I have to suck. Besides, the Nerd himself said the voice acting and editing are good. I bought lighting equipment, and all that stuff, so once I really start learning the good stuff at school (Vancouver Film School), then I hope my work will be a lot more professional.

So far, my goal is to have no 3.5 star rated videos. I have one curse that needs to be revised, and that's the awful Mario Kart review. After that, I must have no 4.0 star rated videos, than no 4.5 star rated videos. They all must have 5 stars each, and I will reach that goal for sure.

AND NO, I don't yell the last word of every sentence. That was just at the beginning. By the way, I changed the tone of my voice for my TMNT review. Check it out, and tell me if I should go back to the yelling or not. Thanks.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytkLfKiEHS8

Nature Boy
10-20-2008, 03:08 PM
I know that I would be hit and die a million times myself.

That's why I too like the speed runs and perfect play-throughs.

If I wanted to watch a video of someone messing up and dying every so often I'll just check out my own Halo 3 videos.

(Lots of "What the *hell* was I thinking when I did *that*?!?" comes out of my mouth when checking those vids out :))

alexander4488
10-20-2008, 06:08 PM
My reviews aren't just montages of deaths. I make sure I point out the important and funny flaws.

walrusmonger
10-20-2008, 06:48 PM
Someone needs to do a review on "angry" reviewers, because the AVGN is great (you either love him or hate him, I love him) and this... is not.

The videos do a good job explaining why the games suck, but your voice is too loud and there is too much swearing.

TheDomesticInstitution
10-20-2008, 07:14 PM
I bought lighting equipment, and all that stuff, so once I really start learning the good stuff at school (Vancouver Film School), then I hope my work will be a lot more professional.




Film school is scam! You'll eventually get sucked into the boring world of corporate A/V. Take my word for it.

I'm also not envisioning your methodology here. So help me understand... You're spending money on film school so you can make youtube videos that rip off other youtube videos? 1000's of people do this everyday, without the aid of any sort of formal film education.

If you want some real advice, I'll give you some for free. Drop out and become an alcoholic.

alexander4488
10-20-2008, 08:26 PM
Someone needs to do a review on "angry" reviewers, because the AVGN is great (you either love him or hate him, I love him) and this... is not.

The videos do a good job explaining why the games suck, but your voice is too loud and there is too much swearing.

My Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles review is my newest one, and my voice is nowhere near loud, and there's barely any swearing. Besides, the Nerd swears a lot, himself. Watch my TMNT video. Do you like that voice better?

alexander4488
10-20-2008, 08:30 PM
Film school is scam! You'll eventually get sucked into the boring world of corporate A/V. Take my word for it.

I'm also not envisioning your methodology here. So help me understand... You're spending money on film school so you can make youtube videos that rip off other youtube videos? 1000's of people do this everyday, without the aid of any sort of formal film education.

If you want some real advice, I'll give you some for free. Drop out and become an alcoholic.

Wow. That was a very dumb reply that you made.
Film school is not a scam. The Nerd went for 5 years, and now he's famous. I won't get sucked into any of that corporate crap, and I will not take your word for it, unless you have facts.

I'm spending money on film school, not to be a rip off, but to be original, and eventually, to be a movie star or something, but that's in the future. Now, I'm reviewing games. You're right. 1,000's do, do this every day without any sort of film education, AND THAT'S WHY THEY SUCK! The Nerd, iRate Gamer, Nostalgia Critic, and Zero Punctuation, and I, may be the only ones that went to school. Once I finish school, I will be famous. Watch.

Drop out and become an alcoholic? That's probably what you did. Man, oh, man, that was a stupid reply.

walrusmonger
10-20-2008, 08:47 PM
My Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles review is my newest one, and my voice is nowhere near loud, and there's barely any swearing. Besides, the Nerd swears a lot, himself. Watch my TMNT video. Do you like that voice better?

Yes, I just watched most of this TMNT right now and you do a better job at keeping the level of your voice to something reasonable to listen to.

The AVGN is funny, and his curses are funny, he is a funny guy. You are cursing like he does, for the hell of it, but it just doesn't work for you. I'm sorry, it just doesn't work.

The videos are just not enjoyable, if you put your stuff out there you will get opinions- so it's nothing personal. Something personal though- you might want to reconsider your goal of going to film school to become a movie star- I don't know you at all, but I'm sure you'd have an easier time if you wanted to go to medical or law school.

If you want to make it in film school (not like I went to film school or anything) then I would hope you do try something original as soon as possible, these curse-filled game reviews are nothing you should be proud of, and certainly not something you could ever think about using in a portfolio.

TheDomesticInstitution
10-20-2008, 09:24 PM
Man, oh, man, that was a stupid reply.

It's obvious that there's a sore lack of Truffaut influences on youtube.

Can you imagine how great the Chocolate Rain video could have been if that dude had went to NYU? I'm really starting to see where you're going with this whole film school/youtube combination.

While you're at it grow a sense of humor. It'd help your videos.

alexander4488
10-21-2008, 12:09 AM
Yes, I just watched most of this TMNT right now and you do a better job at keeping the level of your voice to something reasonable to listen to.

The AVGN is funny, and his curses are funny, he is a funny guy. You are cursing like he does, for the hell of it, but it just doesn't work for you. I'm sorry, it just doesn't work.

The videos are just not enjoyable, if you put your stuff out there you will get opinions- so it's nothing personal. Something personal though- you might want to reconsider your goal of going to film school to become a movie star- I don't know you at all, but I'm sure you'd have an easier time if you wanted to go to medical or law school.

If you want to make it in film school (not like I went to film school or anything) then I would hope you do try something original as soon as possible, these curse-filled game reviews are nothing you should be proud of, and certainly not something you could ever think about using in a portfolio.

Dude. I've been doing this for 3 months. Before three months, I knew absolutely nothing on how to make movies. I didn't even know what video editing looked like, or how to talk into a microphone or anything like that. The Nerd has been making movies since he was three. The Nerd has to be better. If I were most people, I would still be recording a TV screen in the dark, with a crooked camera, yelling and rambling, messing up words, and talking about nonsense, and if that's semi what my videos are now, well then that's because I'm brand new. In fact, I'm so new, there's no reason for you now, to make a funnier video game review. Don't forget, all my videos are scripted, which is a lot harder to do than non-scripted reviews, but if done right, are much nicer.

alexander4488
10-21-2008, 12:09 AM
It's obvious that there's a sore lack of Truffaut influences on youtube.

Can you imagine how great the Chocolate Rain video could have been if that dude had went to NYU? I'm really starting to see where you're going with this whole film school/youtube combination.

While you're at it grow a sense of humor. It'd help your videos.

School is always better. How can it be the opposite?

Zap!
10-21-2008, 01:45 AM
How old are you, Game Dude? I always get hammered for my opinionated views (sometimes rightly so I guess), but I'm gonna state something else that might get me flamed:

I don't think any classic video game reviewer should be under the age of 33, 32 at minimum. I myself am 35, a hardcore classic gamer and former editor of Zap!, and didn't even play video games until 1979. Even at my age, I missed the entire Pong Age. Consider that Break Out was out a full three years before I even played a game. How in the world is someone born in (let's say) 1981 or 1982 *cough*AVGN*cough*IrateGamer*cough* supposed to know their stuff? Simple answer? They don't. What we really need to see is a serious gamer that's 33-40 start making videoes, and I am seriously considering it myself. So far my favorite is The Happy Console Gamer. You can tell he actually played the games in their time.

There, I said it, flame away. :)

DigitalSpace
10-21-2008, 02:16 AM
I'm just going to leave it at this: you're trying too hard.

boatofcar
10-21-2008, 05:48 AM
How old are you, Game Dude? I always get hammered for my opinionated views (sometimes rightly so I guess), but I'm gonna state something else that might get me flamed:

I don't think any classic video game reviewer should be under the age of 33, 32 at minimum. I myself am 35, a hardcore classic gamer and former editor of Zap!, and didn't even play video games until 1979. Even at my age, I missed the entire Pong Age. Consider that Break Out was out a full three years before I even played a game. How in the world is someone born in (let's say) 1981 or 1982 *cough*AVGN*cough*IrateGamer*cough* supposed to know their stuff? Simple answer? They don't. What we really need to see is a serious gamer that's 33-40 start making videoes, and I am seriously considering it myself. So far my favorite is The Happy Console Gamer. You can tell he actually played the games in their time.

There, I said it, flame away. :)

Funny how you just scraped by the cutoff age, isn't it?

By that flawless logic, anyone who reviews Shakespeare should be over the age of 450.

Zap!
10-21-2008, 02:38 PM
Funny how you just scraped by the cutoff age, isn't it?

By that flawless logic, anyone who reviews Shakespeare should be over the age of 450.

The difference is there is no one who is 450, so so every Shakespeare reviewer has no choice but to have missed it the first time around. There are plenty of people left who are over age 32. I'd rather have a classic reviewer that played the classics the first time around, rather than just buying it off eBay and playing it for the first time. The problem with that is 9 times out of 10 the magic will be gone. Playing SMB for the first time today is not the same as playing it for the first time in 1985 like I did.

I will say that there are exceptions. Certain 20 year olds even, if they're hard-core VG historians, can know their stuff and make excellent reviewers. Happy Console Gamer appears under 30, and he is and always was hardcore. But not people like AVGN. There's no way that guy even heard of a Neo-Geo in 1990, let alone owned one.

Kitsune Sniper
10-21-2008, 03:19 PM
"..." But not people like AVGN. There's no way that guy even heard of a Neo-Geo in 1990, let alone owned one.

... Well in his defense, I've played NeoGeo games as early as 1991 - in local arcades. I didn't know what the NeoGeo was until a year later, when I found a four-game MVS system. :p

Frankie_Says_Relax
10-21-2008, 03:30 PM
There's no way that guy even heard of a Neo-Geo in 1990, let alone owned one.

Considering that the system launched in 1990 and was target-marketed in the US through VERY specific retailers and press ads (not to mention a ridiculously prohibitive price), it really shouldn't be a mark against anybody to have NOT owned one in 1990.

That aside, I have no idea where your assumption that James wouldn't have HEARD of a Neo-Geo back then. Even without the internet ... I think most gamers had HEARD of a or played with a Neo-Geo - if not the home system, the arcade unit at their local arcade.

I'll have to ask him if that's the case next time I see him.

alexander4488
10-21-2008, 08:44 PM
How old are you, Game Dude? I always get hammered for my opinionated views (sometimes rightly so I guess), but I'm gonna state something else that might get me flamed:

I don't think any classic video game reviewer should be under the age of 33, 32 at minimum. I myself am 35, a hardcore classic gamer and former editor of Zap!, and didn't even play video games until 1979. Even at my age, I missed the entire Pong Age. Consider that Break Out was out a full three years before I even played a game. How in the world is someone born in (let's say) 1981 or 1982 *cough*AVGN*cough*IrateGamer*cough* supposed to know their stuff? Simple answer? They don't. What we really need to see is a serious gamer that's 33-40 start making videoes, and I am seriously considering it myself. So far my favorite is The Happy Console Gamer. You can tell he actually played the games in their time.

There, I said it, flame away. :)

I am 20. You don't have to be born at the time of the games to know everything about them. AVGN and iRate Gamer know their stuff. If you consider making video game reviews yourself, than definitely go for it, and try your best, but it's a lot harder than it looks.

By the way, I know The Happy Console Gamer. He lives very close to me. Oh, and Mega Man Rob. He's awesome, too.

alexander4488
10-21-2008, 08:48 PM
Don't forget, The Happy Console Gamer is a completely different type of video game reviewer. Comparing him to I, iRate Gamer, and AVGN, is like comparing apples to oranges. There are many types of reviewers out there, that fall into different categories. HCG is more of an improvising, nostalgic, kind of guy, that reviews good games, and what it was like, back in the days. He doesn't really rip into shitty games, like other reviewers, and that's why he's so different. All reviewers are different, but you can only really compare those with similar styles. Never-the-less, I like all video game reviewers, except those that mock others.

I, myself, have been doing this for 3 months. Once I'm done school, I'll be famous.

HYB
10-22-2008, 05:16 AM
/Critique warning/

Just like an art school doesn't make an artist, film school can't guarantee you'll become good at film making. You just have to have that something or work your ass off to become something. I can say that this isn't working for you right now. I find everything you say in your videos go in from the other ear and go out the other one. At times I can hear a bad remark, and I instantly facepalm. You've gotten better, but not very much so.

As honest advice I'd stay stop making videos for youtube for a while. Start filming little clips focusing on one subject at a time (or course variable, if you can explain about bananas seriously so that people like it, you could be improving). Study all kinds of reviewers and filmmakers, try to recognize their style and figure out what makes them awesome. Study filmmaking and all kinds of aspects of it (not just video game reviews, to make it you have to know a wide range of styles, even the nerd does other things). Find your own style, ask for honest opinions and don't throw a shitstorm whenever someone critiques you. Bawwing your eyes out while asking for so called critique (asspats) isnt going to help you one bit. You can always question critique of course, asking why and so on, but do it politely. Remember critique is meant to point out things that by fixing you can become better, so don't mistake it for insults like a 16 year old girl who draws anime.

Also saying you've been doing this for 3 months, and that you've been in film school for only a month is one of the the lamest excuses I've ever heard. Deviantart is full of whiny people like that and they're never going to make it, so stop making useless excuses and focus on making yourself better. Don't get a swelled head thinking you're the shit. Because there's always going to be someone better than you.

Just in my defense I'll say I deal with much more harsh critique on a weekly/daily basis. I'm aspiring to become a concept artist and that's why I don't fuck around making excuses, if there's something that sucks about my art I try to make it better. I deal with professionals at conceptart.org, you should try finding a community where you have peers from the same industry. Focus at school, do extra assignments and stuff like that, it's going to pay off in the long run.

/Critique end/

alexander4488
10-22-2008, 07:50 AM
Thank you for the advice HYB. You are one of the only ones that actually gives very good constructive criticism. I always apply good advice to my work.

By the way, I just revised my Crash of the Titans review. It still needs one more touch up, though. Let me know if you think it's better than the older one. Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJkwMTFODU

TheDomesticInstitution
10-22-2008, 08:37 AM
School is always better. How can it be the opposite?


Sticking feathers[film school] up your butt does not make you a chicken[filmmaker].

I've graduated from film school and have yet to be famous. Fame and education do not go hand in hand.



Thank you for the advice HYB. You are one of the only ones that actually gives very good constructive criticism. I always apply good advice to my work.


That's pretty much what I was saying. But I'm way more of a dick.

HYB
10-22-2008, 02:35 PM
Thank you for the advice HYB. You are one of the only ones that actually gives very good constructive criticism. I always apply good advice to my work.

By the way, I just revised my Crash of the Titans review. It still needs one more touch up, though. Let me know if you think it's better than the older one. Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJkwMTFODU

Honestly, aside from your voice and a few other things, I actually kind of liked it. You threw in some pretty good jokes (fox mccloud=fuck the cloud, oh man that was hilarious, the ballet reference etc). You had some valid points too. I'd suggest you'd try to steer clear from the avgn esque stuff, like trying to come up with long winded insults because that isn't working for you. Tone it down, it was funny enough in the beginning at some points. From a filmmaking point I'm not much help though, I'd still suggest a peer community, like a forum or something. Editing skills and such do come with practice and hard work. Also nice to know my critique IS appriciated because most people throw a huge shitstorm because I'm so angry and negative.

At least I could sit through the whole video this time. Keep it up.


That's pretty much what I was saying. But I'm way more of a dick.

Yeah, I tried to tone my critique down to a civil level. At least I succeeded, usually I'm called mean and a horrible person because my comments are omg so meen my art is perfect etc.

Zap!
10-22-2008, 02:39 PM
Considering that the system launched in 1990 and was target-marketed in the US through VERY specific retailers and press ads (not to mention a ridiculously prohibitive price), it really shouldn't be a mark against anybody to have NOT owned one in 1990.

That aside, I have no idea where your assumption that James wouldn't have HEARD of a Neo-Geo back then. Even without the internet ... I think most gamers had HEARD of a or played with a Neo-Geo - if not the home system, the arcade unit at their local arcade.

I'll have to ask him if that's the case next time I see him.

I donn't hold it against him if he didn't own one in 1990 or 1991. But the hardcore, older gamers, even the broke ones, heard about it through EGM before it was released and watched the story. Did James get 3-6 gaming mags a month in 1990? I did.

Not holding anything against him at all. I love all his videoes and he cracks me up unlike any of the others. I can also clearly see he studied video editing, as he's a master at that.

Zap!
10-22-2008, 02:47 PM
I am 20. You don't have to be born at the time of the games to know everything about them. AVGN and iRate Gamer know their stuff. If you consider making video game reviews yourself, than definitely go for it, and try your best, but it's a lot harder than it looks.

By the way, I know The Happy Console Gamer. He lives very close to me. Oh, and Mega Man Rob. He's awesome, too.

AVGN knows his Nintendo NES mainstream stuff. But even on the NES, did he know what Color Dreams was in 1990? Did he know about the Nintendo/Tengen lawsuit when it happened? When he reviewes older 2600 games, I doubt he pulls them out of his basement. Didn't he also do an episode about the Vectrex? I find it extremely unlikely someone born in 1981 would own such a uique system like that in 1984.

Like I said, there are exceptions. You can be 20 and know the Odyssey II, Fairchild Channel F, and Commodore Vic 20 like the back of your hand. I hope you do.

All in all, you wanna know someone who knows their stuff? I can think of several people here who would be extremely qualified, especially the owner of this board. How about it, Joe? :)

Zap!
10-22-2008, 02:52 PM
Don't forget, The Happy Console Gamer is a completely different type of video game reviewer. Comparing him to I, iRate Gamer, and AVGN, is like comparing apples to oranges. There are many types of reviewers out there, that fall into different categories. HCG is more of an improvising, nostalgic, kind of guy, that reviews good games, and what it was like, back in the days. He doesn't really rip into shitty games, like other reviewers, and that's why he's so different. All reviewers are different, but you can only really compare those with similar styles. Never-the-less, I like all video game reviewers, except those that mock others.

I, myself, have been doing this for 3 months. Once I'm done school, I'll be famous.

When HCG reviews a classic, like Phantasy Star 1, he talks about how he played it for the first time in 1988, and I really like that.

I would like to see him review some crappy games, that might be fun with his knowledge.

I too like most of them, for different reasons. So far, AVGN is the funniest, and has the most professional videos. Irate Gamer is ok, the same type of reviewer. HVGN is pretty funny, decent reviews. HCG is great because he actually played the classics when they were new, which I look for the most. As for you, I will subscribe to your YouTube and check out more videoes. Best of luck.

theChad
10-22-2008, 02:56 PM
cC-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

Lady Jaye
10-22-2008, 03:45 PM
All those AVGN vloggers are unoriginal. They are all trying to be the Seanbaby of the youtube era, and his schtick got old quick. (And if you're too young to know who Seanbaby is, Google his name.)

As for SpooneyOne being unscripted, well, he still usually gives a good thought to what he will do before making his video (ok, maybe not in his latest "Let's Play Phantasmagoria 2" series, but usually, it's obvious that he does have a generally good idea where he's headed to). Otherwise, the length of his videos would vary a lot more than they do.

The Happy Console Gamer has great potential. He's less prepared than Spooney when he makes his videos, though, but you can still tell that he knows what he's talking about.

alexander4488
10-22-2008, 05:44 PM
Honestly, aside from your voice and a few other things, I actually kind of liked it. You threw in some pretty good jokes (fox mccloud=fuck the cloud, oh man that was hilarious, the ballet reference etc). You had some valid points too. I'd suggest you'd try to steer clear from the avgn esque stuff, like trying to come up with long winded insults because that isn't working for you. Tone it down, it was funny enough in the beginning at some points. From a filmmaking point I'm not much help though, I'd still suggest a peer community, like a forum or something. Editing skills and such do come with practice and hard work. Also nice to know my critique IS appriciated because most people throw a huge shitstorm because I'm so angry and negative.

At least I could sit through the whole video this time. Keep it up.



Yeah, I tried to tone my critique down to a civil level. At least I succeeded, usually I'm called mean and a horrible person because my comments are omg so meen my art is perfect etc.

Did you like it better than my old version? Also, what is wrong with my voice? Should I go back to the TMNT voice? Should I go back to the Sonic the Hedgehog voice? Was I too dull? Too angry? And what other things aside, should I fix? Thanks. Tell me as much as you can.

Rob2600
10-22-2008, 09:44 PM
I like the Happy Video Game Nerd's videos. Here's an example:

The Happy Video Game Nerd - Nightshade review (NES) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSdXbmbSlxw)

He's silly at times, but he isn't just trying to be over-the-top funny. His comments are insightful and he genuinely cares about the games he reviews.

Intelligent, in-depth game reviews like his will stand the test of time because they're interesting and helpful. Shallow, gimmicky, vulgar game reviews probably won't (other than the AVGN). Keep that in mind.

alexander4488
10-22-2008, 09:45 PM
Well, I adjusted my revised Crash of the Titans review, because the timing of the mojo scene needed major adjustments. Please check it out once it's finished uploading. I would also like to know if my newer version is better than my older one, and why, so I know how I'm improving. Thanks.

HYB
10-23-2008, 05:49 AM
Did you like it better than my old version? Also, what is wrong with my voice? Should I go back to the TMNT voice? Should I go back to the Sonic the Hedgehog voice? Was I too dull? Too angry? And what other things aside, should I fix? Thanks. Tell me as much as you can.

Your voice echoes when you cut to yourself. Also the rhytmn of your speech is really weird, I think someone else can clarify this better (I think it has been mentioned before) because I'm not a native english speaker and can't explain it. Also I think your voice is a little too angry, like you were shouting half the time. Also try to take your time to speak, you speak a little too fast. Clips of you playing the games would also be nice. Also which version is better, well, the others can give more feedback I guess, some insults were better in the revised version, nice touches like the ballet music, but I liked the simplicity of the old one (like the tinkerbell joke, I liked it better on the old one). I also liked the long explainations of things in the old one, like how crash is strong enough to break a chain blah blah. Anyway, my two cents, now I gotta focus on my art finals instead of hanging out here.

SegaAges
10-23-2008, 12:34 PM
Hmm, so I am at work and can't see these videos, but I started reading the posts, and have to say, whoever thinks that only people of age 30+ should review games is fooling themselves.

I first started playing games when I was around 5 or 6, and I am 26 now. Let's round that up to I started playing when I was 6, which means 20 years of gaming.

Apparently that makes me not qualified. Do I review games? Actually yes. I just don't blog about it.

Pretty much daily I have friends that ask me about games they should or shouldn't play, so I will e-mail them my own review or just give them a review off of the top of my head. Maybe I should find a 30 or 40 year old now so that they can write up a review everytime I need to send one out.

Age means nothing. How you present the information is what counts.

As for the people that just sit there and cuss for their reviews: maybe you should stop reviewing crappy games and review games you like. AVGN does crappy game reviews. Happy Nerd guy reviews games he likes to play.

We don't all like the same games, so reviewing games you love that maybe not everybody else does could help them see why it is such a fun game (I wrote a review of kabuki warriors on x-box for 1 of my friends because it is super fun).

We should either bump and old thread, or start a new one about reviewing games you love (no f'ing avgn stuff).

time for me to search, hurray!

alexander4488
10-26-2008, 03:43 AM
I revised my atrocious Mario Kart review. Tell me if you like it better. I changed the tone of my voice. Better or worse? I also removed the bullshit and untruths.

NEW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qElhBE7B9Wk

OLD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8u1fEKDVME&feature=related

walrusmonger
10-26-2008, 11:22 AM
The voice in your new one was better for the intro, but you cut from topic point to topic point so quickly after that, and it's so short, that it's all over the place.


I rate the original mario kart review a C and the new one a D+.

alexander4488
06-10-2009, 11:24 PM
My Kirby review is nearing completion and will be released shortly.

Oobgarm
06-11-2009, 06:37 AM
oh noooooooooooooooo

alexander4488
06-11-2009, 04:25 PM
Oh yes!!!

Octopod
06-11-2009, 07:48 PM
"Inspired by the nerd" was all I needed to see. AVGN sucked bad enough. I'm not going to watch his imitators.

bangtango
06-11-2009, 08:10 PM
"Inspired by the nerd" was all I needed to see. AVGN sucked bad enough. I'm not going to watch his imitators.

Agree 100%.

If you have genuine directing or acting talent, you can find some other means to make yourself famous outside of YouTube.

It is just as bad as scum who live in their parents basement who throw up a sports blog on the internet, post complete rumors and have their garbage posts be referred to as genuine "news" by ESPN, SI, Fox Sports, etc.

I'm not as old as k8track but I have literally zero respect for people who have achieved a modicum of fame as the direct result of YouTube, reality tv and other venues which are little more than a sham.

alexander4488
06-11-2009, 09:55 PM
Depends if they deserve it like the AVGN but unlike Fred.