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newcoleco
09-05-2008, 04:36 PM
ColecoVision Unreleased Stuff - Part 1
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-qZ4vBbb-TA
For the next part, I need your help. I'm looking for more unreleased game informations, including scans, roms and exhibition footage. I've already send an email to BlueSkyRanger to have their collaboration to show the unreleased games He-Man Master of the univers.
I know someone here talked about a game named Orbit, please contact me.
OldSchoolGamer
09-05-2008, 05:49 PM
Excellent, I remember that catalog as well seeing that spinner on the original controller! Very cool video.
another thing though, in Canada in Toronto was a store called Consumers Distributing which is gone now, I remember a picture in it that always stuck with me, they sold Colecovision but the picture in the catalog the controller was different in an interesting way, instead of the grey bubble keypad we all know, the keypad appear like a shiny "metallic" look, it was white with black numbers and I THINK the * and # keys were another colour too! I remmebr this vividly because I remember when I got my first Colecovision being a little disappointed that my controllers didn't look as cool. I realize now this picture was probably supplied for publishing before they received the product and was likely just some type of prototype or mock - up but damn I always wanted that other controller LOL!
Well anyway, very interesting video, some stuff I did not now! Thanks for the mention (MaximumRD) I appreciate it! :D
I hope that's a computer-generated voice talking about the "Co-lecko-vision" in that vid.
Good stuff!!!
newcoleco
09-05-2008, 07:23 PM
I hope that's a computer-generated voice talking about the "Co-lecko-vision" in that vid.
Good stuff!!!
Yes, it's a computer generated voice. My real voice is worst than that. lol
Seriously, I don't use my real voice because I prefer to make the computer talk about computer stuff, and my accent is not the best for this kind of video.
If you want to offer your voice to do the narration in my future videos, be my guess.
newcoleco
09-05-2008, 07:28 PM
That would be me.. I interviewed the programmer, Laura Nikolich, about it a few years ago:
http://www.digitpress.com/library/interviews/interview_laura_nikolich.html
The Orbit stuff is at the end.
As for the other material, PM me for more info.
Btw, nice video but a little refinement is needed with those computer voice programs. It's a bit grating to hear "Kalecko" over and over. Sometimes you need to spell a word exactly the way it sounds for it to be pronounced correctly. For example, try "coaleeco" ;)
Thanks for the link, and thank for the text-to-speech tip. I will PM you for sure, right after checking the web page.
The service I used is an online demo computer voice engine by AT&T. They did change a little bit the service, and they not perfect the voice.
newcoleco
09-05-2008, 08:51 PM
It's an inherent flaw with any text-to-voice software. In all fairness, "Coleco" isn't a real word per se, but rather an acronym for 3 seperate words (Conneticut Leather Company). Plus I'm guessing your native language is probably French and you might not know how some words sound in English so I can understand wanting to use a computer voice. I doubt AT&T or anyone else will take the time to program in correct pronunciations for everything, esp since it's easier for the end user to work around it. I noticed a few other words that were spoken emphasizing the wrong syllable but 'Coleco' was by far the biggest offender :)
You guess well. I'm a french canadian, I'm living in Quebec city, and I learned english mostly because of all the friends I meet in the Internet. I admit it, I still need to practice to speak this language which is still a little bit confusing for me.
Talking about weird spoken words by text-to-speech services, I think the word Activision is pronounced in 2 different ways, and I think one way is right. So, these text-to-speech services are unpredictables sometimes.
16bitter
09-06-2008, 11:21 AM
Wow! Great video. I remember seeing a lot of these games in catalogs and magazines, thinking how cool they looked. Shame they never made it out. Dracula seemed like a very interesting one. And I really wanted that expansion module #2. Wasn't it supposed to play games on little tapes or something?
TheRedEye
09-06-2008, 04:06 PM
ColecoVision Unreleased Stuff - Part 1
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-qZ4vBbb-TA
Cool stuff, I'm going to link to it from my site. Question for everyone: are there nice scans of the CES pamphlet featured heavily in this video? I'd like to extract those screenshots into a small gallery.
Wow! Great video. I remember seeing a lot of these games in catalogs and magazines, thinking how cool they looked. Shame they never made it out. Dracula seemed like a very interesting one. And I really wanted that expansion module #2. Wasn't it supposed to play games on little tapes or something?
When I saw those ads in the video I remembered seeing the game pics as well. I was blown away and I had already been such after seeing Donkey Kong. I lusted after a ColecoVision. A local home electronics store went out of business and they put on a HUGE sale, the likes of which I've never seen again. How good was it? Well, after we left my parents told me they saw a ColecoVision for $10. I have never forgiven them. ROFL
OldSchoolGamer
09-06-2008, 11:14 PM
Yes, it's a computer generated voice. My real voice is worst than that. lol
Seriously, I don't use my real voice because I prefer to make the computer talk about computer stuff, and my accent is not the best for this kind of video.
If you want to offer your voice to do the narration in my future videos, be my guess.
It reminds me of the Speech Toy on the AMIGA, damn we had so much fun as kids making the Amiga swear all day! Heck maybe I will use speech toy in an Amiga emulator and try something similiar, I was pretty good at typing the way it would sound proper in the speech output..............
I do like the effect though!
It reminds me of the Speech Toy on the AMIGA, damn we had so much fun as kids making the Amiga swear all day!
Reminds me of SAM, "the Software Automated Mouth for the Commodore 64 computerrrrrr."
newcoleco
09-07-2008, 06:00 AM
I have hi-rez scans of 6 press kits.
How many of these press kit you scanned contains informations about "coming out" ColecoVision games?
newcoleco
09-07-2008, 11:22 AM
I never seen the "trackball" label version. Thanks!
And now I can read the fineprint characters. Very good.
*Actual game screen may show variation from illustration above.
This phrase was at the bottom of many pages.
Someone gives me, yesturday, a picture from an eBay auction years ago, a Coleco standard controller with a spinner. Do someone remember who sell it?
I know I have somewhere the footage of Cabbage Patch Kid Workout, recorded with the cartridge that appears on eBay years ago. I hope I still have it, in one of my backups.
TheRedEye
09-07-2008, 12:23 PM
stonic, can you send me the pages relevant to unreleased games? I've been slowly building a database for the past couple years, and I haven't even started Colecovision yet.
newcoleco
09-07-2008, 05:29 PM
I'm still waiting for answer from BlueSkyRanger.
Do you think Sean Kelly will accept to share his knowledge and footage about the prototypes he did publish and not publish in cartridge format?
newcoleco
09-07-2008, 06:53 PM
Knowing that the circuit board inside the actual Coleco standard controllers has the spinner wheel "place" between the joystick and the keypad, my guess is that picture with controllers having their spinner completly at the bottom of the controller is a previous version.
I remark also the colecovision label with all the colored lines beside, like the vcs emulator module I found in the Electronic games magazine. Very interesting.
I will be happy to put all I've got so far, including my stuff used in the first video, into an ftp account or something similar. But I must have thepossibility to download stuff later when it will be time to make the second video.
doubledownon11
09-08-2008, 11:09 AM
I don't think it would be really worth it to add the spinner wheel to a standard controller. It's only used for SA sports titles, which also need all 4 action buttons. Now it is possible to press 2 number key combinations to achieve the other 2 buttons, but not very gaming friendly.
guitargary75
09-08-2008, 01:46 PM
If you have to use a computer voice, use the one with an English accent.
newcoleco
09-08-2008, 05:31 PM
If you have to use a computer voice, use the one with an English accent.The one with an English accent? I did use one with UK accent for my story about Dac-Man, is it what you refer to?
sniperCCJVQ
09-09-2008, 07:24 AM
Too bad we can't find more information about the canadian Energy Quizz proto.
I still wonder where this one come from
alexkidd2000
09-09-2008, 12:02 PM
I also agree best to use UK accent. American accent does not sound as good with computer voice. I always switch voice to UK on my GPS system.
TheRedEye
09-09-2008, 02:45 PM
Too bad we can't find more information about the canadian Energy Quizz proto.
I still wonder where this one come from
Wow, I just did a few searches on Google, and that thing is like pure mystery. We don't know very much at all, do we? Guy found a game called Energy Quizz in Canada for cheap, sold it to someone in America, and that's about it.
sniperCCJVQ
09-09-2008, 08:52 PM
Wow, I just did a few searches on Google, and that thing is like pure mystery. We don't know very much at all, do we? Guy found a game called Energy Quizz in Canada for cheap, sold it to someone in America, and that's about it.
The last person to ever seen the proto is our good old friend wberdan
newcoleco
09-09-2008, 11:22 PM
I find back a picture of the Cabbage Patch Kid Workout cartridge that came from an eBay auction. But I'm still looking for the footage.
I know that Sean Kelly had many prototypes like Lord of the Dungeon, Power Lord, Pacman, Joust, DigDug, and many others like a Smurf game to be played with an audio tape. And I still have no answer from BlueSkyRangers. Somebody here can help?
Mianrtcv
09-10-2008, 09:09 AM
If you have to use a computer voice, use the one with an English accent.
I was hoping for a Khaikstan accent. Eez nice.
newcoleco
09-10-2008, 10:23 PM
Try contacting Sean via his Ebay ID: skelly-etc
I don't use eBay. I don't have an account... and I received tons of fishing-spam-mails by fake eBay alert system. Why people think I'm using eBay? I let my friends using it.
Any other way to contact Sean Kelly?
newcoleco
09-23-2008, 03:24 PM
Except if I can have footage of these unreleased he-man prototypes presented by BlueSkyRanger during a retro gaming party, or the baranstein bear or smurf game prototype which I think Sean got a rom dump version, I will not be able to complete another 10 minutes video.
TheRedEye
09-23-2008, 07:53 PM
Except if I can have footage of these unreleased he-man prototypes presented by BlueSkyRanger during a retro gaming party, or the baranstein bear or smurf game prototype which I think Sean got a rom dump version, I will not be able to complete another 10 minutes video.
He-Man was at a Classic Gaming Expo also ('99 I think?), I played it for a good half hour or so. Unfortunately I don't think many people were taking photos or video, as I learned yesterday trying to find media for Yogi's Frustration on the Intellivision.
Dee96
09-29-2008, 07:18 AM
http://home.comcast.net/~scottith/Image00001.jpg
The label reads "Trackball" instead of "Roller Controller". O_O Strange proto
newcoleco
09-29-2008, 10:47 AM
I suppose it's a marketing decision to change from Trackball to Roller controller... or maybe the word Trackball was a registered name, like a trademark.
During the weekend, I was surfing the net to find some clues about the two ( 2 ) kid vid games I know there are prototypes versions for the ColecoVision. Well, I didn't find a clue beside the one I already knew from Sean Kelly. I did understand something :
Papa Smurf's Treasure Hunt = Smurfette's Birthday. So, basically, the game project was renamed and versions for the Atari2600 and Intellivision was planned too. I'm sure this information is evident by comparing the presskits made by Coleco for CV, Atari and Intellivision upcoming stuff.
newcoleco
10-04-2008, 10:02 PM
Well, it looks like I have time to make a montage for the second video, but I don't have enough information right now to make it as interresting as the first video.
Until I had answer about some prototypes, I had the idea to ask you if you can find ols magazines with ads about upcoming games for the Colecovision, and reviews about CES for the years 1982-1985. So, if I can't fill the time with footage, I will be able to give informations about unreleased projects with more proof.
Thanks in advance!
newcoleco
10-19-2008, 02:07 PM
Last week, I subscribed to FaceBook, encourage by friends who are using it frequently. I did uploaded there the pictures I've got so far about ColecoVision unreleased stuff, I find it an interesinting way to share the information with eveyrbody because right now I still have not enough material for a 10 minutes video.
After a few days, I've got no more pictures or information about unreleased stuff. I'm building right now an album with the pictures I've got so far. For those who want to be credited for the pictures, it should be appropriate to have your real names.
ColecoVision PressKit 1983
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9017
More unreleased stuff from presskit and other sources (like you)
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9095
If you find even more pictures, or even better hires pictures, please let me know.
newcoleco
11-06-2008, 06:25 PM
Well, I have footage of the Cabbage Patch Kids Workout. Yeah!
I still need more videos like footage of He-Man and Smurf Saves the Day. Otherwise, I will fill up the video with the Atarisoft prototypes PacMan, Joust and DigDug.
newcoleco
11-07-2008, 06:38 PM
I think someone has to already be added as a friend in order to see those links, so you need to let people know what your account name is.
I don't understand, I did check twice and it says that these photo album are visible to everybody, not restricted to facebook friends.
Well, on facebook, I did use my real name.
OldSchoolGamer
11-08-2008, 02:31 AM
I don't understand, I did check twice and it says that these photo album are visible to everybody, not restricted to facebook friends.
Well, on facebook, I did use my real name.
If that is the case I THINK other people still might need to be logged into facebook. I cconform, I am on Facebook and I get THIS message:
This content is currently unavailable
The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page.
Return home (http://www.facebook.com/home.php)
View Rob's Profile (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=783303108)
NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM OF YOU ALBUMS ARE PUBLIC LINKS anybody can use!
TRY THIS! ON THEBOTTOM OF EACH OF YOU ALBUM YOU CAN FIND LINKS LIKE THIS (I USE MINE FORM MAXIMUMRD CLASSIC GAMING AND COMPUTING AS AN EXAMPLE!:
Show people this photo by sending them this public link: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1394898&l=76f28&id=783303108
Greg2600
11-08-2008, 12:12 PM
For photos you are much better off using Flickr. Facebook is a pain in the butt.
geneshifter
11-08-2008, 12:45 PM
This stuff is seriously impressive. Well done sir! I love the ColecoVision!
newcoleco
11-08-2008, 05:59 PM
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9017&l=00c30&id=1186488586
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9095&l=5fc4f&id=1186488586
Sorry for the inconvenient!
PingvinBlueJeans
03-23-2009, 04:53 PM
Except if I can have footage of these unreleased he-man prototypes presented by BlueSkyRanger during a retro gaming party, or the baranstein bear or smurf game prototype which I think Sean got a rom dump version, I will not be able to complete another 10 minutes video.
I'm not sure if you're still working on this, but the ROM images to the Berenstain Bears and Smurfs prototypes you refer to were released early last year...
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113174
newcoleco
03-24-2009, 11:52 AM
I'm not sure if you're still working on this, but the ROM images to the Berenstain Bears and Smurfs prototypes you refer to were released early last year...
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113174thanks for the link. I did get the zip file cvprotos, and I will check it out.
It's true that I did put aside the project of video about unreleased stuff to concentrate on my job hunting, my new coleco devkit and my personal new coleco projects to be released during the next months and next year. However, the video about unreleased stuff will be done eventually, and these rom files will help to add footage, which is more animated than a bunch of pictures.