How is the PS3's Blu Ray player?

[shopkins]

I'm getting an HDTV soon, I hope. I was wondering how the Blu Ray player in the PS3 stacks up in terms of features, image clarity and ease of use. If it's adequate I might just go ahead and get a PS3 instead of a standalone unit.

Oh, and do you guys know where one could get a new 60 GB PS3? Or even a used one from a reputable dealer. I want the backward compatibility and built-in Wi Fi if possible.

[Cornelius]

As the first Blu-ray players rolled out, the best they could do was equal the PS3 for image quality, etc. Most weren't as good, and they all cost ~twice as much. Prices have come down on the players, but I still have only read of really expensive ones being better than the PS3. If you are a gamer at all and you are getting a Blu-ray player, there is really nothing to consider as the PS3 is by far your best choice. Hell, I still don't think it makes sense to buy anything else even if all you want is to play Blu-rays. Even a total non-gamer might find uses for it like streaming video, downloading movies to watch, or even just watching movie previews. One last benefit is that any Blu-ray firmware updates can be done easier w/ the PS3. Okay, end of commercial.

I love mine. I play games on it some, but it gets used a movie player more often.

I'd say your best bet for getting a 60GB model is to watch your Craigslist if you have an active one. I'm surprised how often they are for sale around here, though people tend to know what they are worth. I've seen some (and bought a couple of them) for good prices with nice extras. Finding a new one will be all but impossible at this point unless you go to eBay and pay a premium.

[diskoboy]

According to the AVSforums, it's still one of the (if not THE) best Blu-Ray player on the market.

Supposedly, Pioneer has one coming out that's supposed to be slightly better, but will run about $1200.

[shopkins]

Thanks, guys. That definitely sounds like the way to go. Hey, I have a cabinet full of PSX and PS2 games I want to eventually get around to. If by some chance I manage to snag a 60gb PS3, how could I expect them to look on an HDTV?

[Trebuken]

Speculation is that standalone players will be under $200 for Black Friday, possiblt $149 in an attempt to put one in every home...

Also you should be aware that the PS3 can deliver an sudio experience with the newest HD audio formats. The HDTV is not enough any more you need a decent receiver and at least 5.1 surround...the audio can be as amazing as the image...

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

It's certainly the only Blu-Ray player that you can play Warhawk on.

[dao2]

Thanks, guys. That definitely sounds like the way to go. Hey, I have a cabinet full of PSX and PS2 games I want to eventually get around to. If by some chance I manage to snag a 60gb PS3, how could I expect them to look on an HDTV?

it upscales them supposedly, dunno bout that but they play just fine. Gotta realize though since ur tv is probably much bigger then they were back then they're gonna be pixely (least the ps1 games)

[roushimsx]

Criterion (http://www.criterion.com/asp/) uses a PS3 as their reference bluray player (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10016208-1.html), which I think says something for its quality. They also use a cheap HDMI cable, which only further drives the nail in the coffin for the argument that monster cables (and similar) are marked up to ridiculously bullshit levels.

Awesome, awesome BD player...as long as you also buy the remote. Don't even think of trying to use the SIXAXIS controller. Fire up a PS2 and watch a DVD using the PS2 controller as a remote. Observe how much of a nuisance it is. It's just like that...IN HIGH DEFINITION.

[Half Japanese]

Criterion (http://www.criterion.com/asp/) uses a PS3 as their reference bluray player (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10016208-1.html), which I think says something for its quality. They also use a cheap HDMI cable, which only further drives the nail in the coffin for the argument that monster cables (and similar) are marked up to ridiculously bullshit levels.

Awesome, awesome BD player...as long as you also buy the remote. Don't even think of trying to use the SIXAXIS controller. Fire up a PS2 and watch a DVD using the PS2 controller as a remote. Observe how much of a nuisance it is. It's just like that...IN HIGH DEFINITION.

It's really not that bad, or at least I think the buttons are laid out sensibly (shoulder buttons as chapter forward/backward and seek makes sense), but obviously it isn't a dream scenario when a remote is available. I'll probably continue to use the controller out of spite however, since my Logitech remote is IR and isn't compatible with Bluetooth. I haven't whittled down to one remote to add another.

[digitalpress]

I don't have anything to compare it to, and I'm pretty new to HDTV on the whole, but I can say that the Blu-Ray discs are absoluely beautiful and the PS3 (I have the old 60GB) does a really good job of upscaling DVD's as well (this I can compare with my Samsung NUON DVD player).

As for the remote... well, I didn't have any issue with the PS3 controller as a remote, but I eventually got a standard-style remote and use that now. I find that the PS3 controller was actually a better remote. The PS3 buttons, which are actually pretty important, are in non-intuitive spots on the new remote.

And as Frankie said, the only Blu-Ray player that plays Warhawk. Also the only one that plays Metal Gear Solid IV.

[Lucifersam1]

Like some others said, I have no other point of reference, but the quality looks awesome on my LCD. I primarily got it at as bluray player that I could also play games on. You can just beat the one-two knockout of high def movies and awesome looking games (and backwards compatibility). The Wifi works great, once you configure it and your router so it does not steal your laptops IP address and cause a conflict. There is some good documentation out there on how to fix that though. I am wondering though, do the new 80GB have backwards compat still? If so, why the hunt for the 60?


p.s. The sound quality on movies and games absolutely rocks if you have a nice surround sound system.


I'm getting an HDTV soon, I hope. I was wondering how the Blu Ray player in the PS3 stacks up in terms of features, image clarity and ease of use. If it's adequate I might just go ahead and get a PS3 instead of a standalone unit.

Oh, and do you guys know where one could get a new 60 GB PS3? Or even a used one from a reputable dealer. I want the backward compatibility and built-in Wi Fi if possible.

[Cornelius]

It is funny to hear people talk about the remote issue. I actually bought the official PS3 remote because I had some store credit at Radio Shack and nothing else to use it on. That was at least two months ago, and it is still in the package. I've had people be impressed that I could use the controller as a remote so well, but pretty much everything just makes sense. I mean, what's the obvious way to pause the movie? On the menu, how do you select something? FF/skip someone already mentioned. Can't really think of anything else I've used, but for those at least, your hands will do them automatically without thinking if you've ever played a ps1 or ps2.

[roushimsx]

I'll probably continue to use the controller out of spite however, since my Logitech remote is IR and isn't compatible with Bluetooth.

Can't you get a cheap and simple USB dongle that'll get your universal IR remotes working with the PS3?

[shopkins]

Like some others said, I have no other point of reference, but the quality looks awesome on my LCD. I primarily got it at as bluray player that I could also play games on. You can just beat the one-two knockout of high def movies and awesome looking games (and backwards compatibility). The Wifi works great, once you configure it and your router so it does not steal your laptops IP address and cause a conflict. There is some good documentation out there on how to fix that though. I am wondering though, do the new 80GB have backwards compat still? If so, why the hunt for the 60?


p.s. The sound quality on movies and games absolutely rocks if you have a nice surround sound system.

Is there a way to keep this from happening just with access to the PS3 and the laptop? I don't actually have access to the router because my landlord lets me leech off his Wifi.

[poloplayr]

I've loved my PS3 as a bluray player.... using it on my HD projector with amazing results...and probably one of the best features is the super easy firmware updates (BD Live, etc) which could be a pain on standalones...

[Clownzilla]

It's certainly the only Blu-Ray player that you can play Warhawk on.

It is also the only Blu-Ray player that can play Hot Shots Golf: Out Of Bounds.

[nate1749]

Criterion (http://www.criterion.com/asp/) uses a PS3 as their reference bluray player (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10016208-1.html), which I think says something for its quality. They also use a cheap HDMI cable, which only further drives the nail in the coffin for the argument that monster cables (and similar) are marked up to ridiculously bullshit levels.

Awesome, awesome BD player...as long as you also buy the remote. Don't even think of trying to use the SIXAXIS controller. Fire up a PS2 and watch a DVD using the PS2 controller as a remote. Observe how much of a nuisance it is. It's just like that...IN HIGH DEFINITION.

In regards to your HDMI cable comment, I read an article in I believe it was popular mechanics (or science?) where yes they proved that quality is identical for any hdmi capable since it's just digital data so one cables 0's and 1's look the same as a more expensive cables 0's and 1's.

[roushimsx]

In regards to your HDMI cable comment, I read an article in I believe it was popular mechanics (or science?) where yes they proved that quality is identical for any hdmi capable since it's just digital data so one cables 0's and 1's look the same as a more expensive cables 0's and 1's.

Not entirely true. (http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/hdmi-cables.htm)

[nate1749]

Not entirely true. (http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/hdmi-cables.htm)

Ehhh, I'm taking popular science over Blue Jeans Cable.com, but that's just me =) Interesting article though.

[roushimsx]

Ehhh, I'm taking popular science over Blue Jeans Cable.com, but that's just me =) Interesting article though.

Without being able to read the article to see exactly what they said, I'm going to have to just assume that you're remembering what they said slightly incorrectly and that their intention was to tell the reader that for a majority of people, a less expensive cable isn't going to have any drawbacks compared to an expensive cable. There's still degradation in the signal, but on shorter lengths it's not usually a problem. There's always degradation, you just try to limit it as best you can and hope that it stays within tolerances.

Assuming that cable quality and lengths are never issues because "it's all 1s and 0s" would be an incorrect stance, regardless of where you read it from.

[jonjandran]

Not entirely true. (http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/hdmi-cables.htm)

A cable company trying to sell everyone their expensive cables.

Yea let's take their word over the words of the multiple reviewers who have said there is no difference. X_x

[nate1749]

I just don't remember the exact publication (I get about 15 magazines a month), but I remember the article quite well. They took super cheap no name hdmi cables and really expensive ones and tested them and found that they delivered identical data.

They also sat people down to pick the higher quality cable, no one could do it. That was the gist of the article, just when I'm quoting a source I like to say exactly what it was and when rather than 'i read somewhere,' but in this case I'm fuzzy (given the similar name of the publications). Both my HDMI cables are cheap ones so I can't speak from personal experience.

As for the OP, I've only had the sony 3 for a day (just for blu ray) and it runs completely quiet which is what I was worried about (since the 360 sounds like a jet). It's a BIG system though so make sure you have room in your entertainment center, but yeah so far no complaints.

Nate

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Can't you get a cheap and simple USB dongle that'll get your universal IR remotes working with the PS3?

Yes you can.


I have the PS3 hooked up to a 46 inch Sony 1080p TV, and Blu-ray movies look gramazing. Right now the PS3 is the best way to go, as far a Blu-ray players go. Many others in this thread have attested to this, and have given good links to support their claims.

[NayusDante]

I personally use my PS3 as my main DVD player, and the controller is intuitive enough. Blu-Ray is a neat technology, but I honestly don't really care about it. Yes, it looks better than DVD. No, I don't think it's worth an extra $10-15 over the price of the same movie on DVD. Once it's widely accepted and prices go down to DVD-level, I'll say "hmm, this is a nice step up in technology," but until then, I don't mind a little macroblocking.

Opinions aside, I have some genuine concerns about using the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player. Everyone's heard about or experienced the DVD-reading problems on the PS2, what if we see that again? Will playing DVDs on your PS3 make it go kaput exponentially faster? I have the Holy Grail 60gb model, and would hate to have to replace it with a stripped revision model. PS3 DVD playback is my favorite out of everything else I've used, including standalone players, XBMC, Xbox 360, PS2, and even my HTPC running Vista Media Center, so it's going to see heavy DVD usage over the next few years.

[Lucifersam1]

Unfortunately, I do not think so. The way it was shown (and the way I had to do it) was to forward a bunch of ports to the PS3 address. Just check one thing on your laptop, make sure you are using DHCP and not a static IP. If you use a static IP and the PS3 is set for DHCP then it will definitely try to get the IP of the laptop. From my experience, linksys routes can be set to DHCP and will still allow access to nodes that have a static IP setup.


Is there a way to keep this from happening just with access to the PS3 and the laptop? I don't actually have access to the router because my landlord lets me leech off his Wifi.

In regards to what some people were saying about the remote, I always use it unless I am just playing MP3's. I bought the remote when I bought the PS3 and think it is great!