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Yukio
09-28-2008, 02:04 PM
that you do not need to face?)

[Spoiler alert!!!]

For example, in the SEGA Dragon Crystal game there are enemies that only attack you if you accidentally hit them! In this case their will follow you and try to kill your character.

What are the games that does have characters or enemies that are so powerful than your character or even more powerful than the main character? Some game series does feature powerful characters that could be a challenge, sure into most of those aforementioned games the player have a party of characters to face the single 'opponent'!

I think that this is common into some games series like:
Lufia
Final Fantasy
Dungeons & Dragons

namzep
09-28-2008, 02:09 PM
Don't mess with the chickens in Zelda or they will flock and peck your ass to death.

skaar
09-28-2008, 02:23 PM
I was always amused at the Master Tonberry enemies. Having an attack based on all the damage you've done to all enemies throughout the game called "Everyone's Grudge" was quite awesome.

The enemies that were there to insta-kill or punish you - like the Baron in Bubble Bobble or that happy face from Frenzy ... those were scary.

That being said... RUN COWARD RUN!

Blitzwing256
09-28-2008, 05:02 PM
super hyldlide on genesis (hydlide 3 on famicom) have good and bad charecters roaming the map, the bad ones attack you on sight, but the neutral/good ones will wander about till you stab them brutally (from behind of course) they are usualy stronger then the bad creatures and give better rewards (attacking them lowers your morale, which makes it harder to deal with people in town since you know..you're an evil murderer and all)

SpaceHarrier
09-28-2008, 05:06 PM
Yeah FF is full of those sorts of optional enemies that don't really mean any harm, but if you step on their toes you are dogmeat.

Like Emerald and Ruby Weapon in FFVII. (I love when you would exit the sunken Gelnika(sp?) and Emerald would be parked right above you. Gah!)

Or Omega Weapon in FFVIII...

Final Fantasy XII -- the Elementals! They were neutral until you used ANY kind of magic on the field, then they move in and annhilate you! Also there were various hunters walking around that you can fight or just leave alone.

ryborg
09-28-2008, 09:09 PM
You can't kill almost all of the enemies in Lolo, including those badass pink sword throwing guys with the Cheshire Cat smile. Those things freaked me out when I was a kid.

cyberfluxor
09-28-2008, 09:23 PM
Would you count attacking allies in RTS games? Although you usually can't hostile Neutral or Allied forces you can sometimes attack a base and then it's all out war. In games like Starcraft the computer will just defend against whatever units you use to charge them.

From what I hear there are plenty of NPCs in RPGs across the board that will take you out. None come to mind at the moment.

Tron 2.0
09-28-2008, 09:34 PM
RE for the gc that zombie with the explosive strap on.

Most you can do is avoid if you fire at it then it's game over.

Smashed Brother
09-28-2008, 10:27 PM
In the Elder Scrolls games (Morrowind and Oblivion, to be more specific), neutral/good characters will attack you if you hit them. Of course, if you killed certain 'good' characters, the game would tell you that the story can't continue on, but you can still keep playing. I remember meeting the God, Lord Vivic, in the Morrowind game and pummeling him to his death with nothing more than my bare hands just because I thought that it would be funny.

shopkins
09-29-2008, 08:54 AM
In the Elder Scrolls games (Morrowind and Oblivion, to be more specific), neutral/good characters will attack you if you hit them. Of course, if you killed certain 'good' characters, the game would tell you that the story can't continue on, but you can still keep playing. I remember meeting the God, Lord Vivic, in the Morrowind game and pummeling him to his death with nothing more than my bare hands just because I thought that it would be funny.

I did that too. Actually, I found it easier to beat Vivec to death barehanded because it pretty much takes all the fight out of him. He can only get up for a split second before getting knocked down again because his stamina is gone. Of course, the way I remember it as long as he's used up all his magic he's no big whoop anyway.

In the Ultima games you do not attack Lord British unless you want to get your ass handed to you on a plate. Of course, there are ways to kill him built into most of the games, but the novice adventurer who decides to just walk up and swing a sword at him is in for a nasty surprise.

k8track
09-29-2008, 09:34 AM
Colecovision Frenzy: Do NOT shoot the giant, sleeping Evil Otto. Retribution is insanely swift and deadly.

SegaAges
09-29-2008, 09:58 AM
***SPOILER***

Hmm, perfect example: The Grox from Spore.

There is no way to beat them. They are in the space stage. Seriously, you can't beat them. You can travel from space system to space system, but there are a couple systems you can't get to, but they can get to you, and since you can't get to them, they will continue to build up money and just send waves after waves of dudes after you. They have over 1000 star systems as well, which is retarded.

I am guessing they made these guys impossible to beat so that they could release something cool in an expansion pack (we all know that Maxis loves their expansion packs). Even still, why put the main bad guys in the game and make them unbeatable!

Crystalian
09-29-2008, 12:56 PM
Shopkins; Skull of Mondain for the win, baby!!! :rockets: I never had much trouble taking out Lord British, but winning the game became rather difficult after that point.....

In Final Fantasy 6 the Guardian machine in Vector is unbeatable.

Black plants in Super Mario Bros. 3 are invincible.

Lots of others I can't think of right now.

Arcade_Ness
09-29-2008, 01:10 PM
The Ultimate Chimera from Mother 3 couldn't be attacked, you can only run away from it, and if it caught you it was instant death. CHOMP!

Dangerboy
09-29-2008, 02:23 PM
The barrier guns in Halo 3's multiplayer maps.

One step past, KABOOM ;D

dao2
09-29-2008, 08:51 PM
Not really a hard battle or anything but Elacian was damn hard for a somewhat normal monster ;p Figures the only looper that didn't run away could kick the shit out of u :P (Skies of Arcadia btw)

And the 3 secrets battle (sorry not gonna spoil it :P) at crescent isle (note: have to unlock the 3 secrets to get the battle) was probably the hardest battle in the game.

Astrosmash
09-29-2008, 09:41 PM
One that comes immediately to mind (and hasn't already been mentioned) is Chrono Trigger - since the "random" enemies are visible outside of battle, many of them can be avoided and won't attack unless you touch them.

More recently, Sander Cohen in BioShock is completely optional to fight; in either encounter with him he won't fight you unless you attack or otherwise provoke him first.

Haoie
09-30-2008, 03:01 AM
So is this a list of things that should be avoided or things that are just plain undefeatable?

OMF2097
09-30-2008, 04:44 AM
The Bulletproof car from Spy Hunter can't be shot, but may be slammed into the side of the road.

The old man in The Legend of Zelda that starts throwing fireballs if you attack him once.

Remnant spirits in Silent Hill 4: The Room: You can only use the sword to pin them down, but you can't kill them no matter how hard you try. Run.

Sabz5150
09-30-2008, 09:49 AM
The frog eggs in Izuna will hatch if attacked and the tadpoles that come out of them are EVIL... I have yet to kill one.

Yukio
09-30-2008, 10:25 PM
So is this a list of things that should be avoided or things that are just plain undefeatable?

Some of the beings are both ... In other cases, some characters are not intended to be easily defeatable.

For example, into some 'rogue' like games. The basic objective is to find something and get to the exit of the "floor". Killing things is not even a necessity, finding food (usually bread) and running away (this recovers the hit points of the character) is ...