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TurboGenesis
10-04-2008, 04:00 PM
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videogameking26
10-04-2008, 04:13 PM
I guess there is the towel trick which you wrapped your 360 console tighty in towels and wait for it to overheat, it should go 3ROD or that is what I heard..would never try it myself but heard others that did, if that dosen't work just keep it on for an ex amount of hours and it might go red rings on you.

UK Collector
10-04-2008, 04:18 PM
Sledgehammer. Should work.

TheRealist50
10-04-2008, 04:20 PM
yeah I agree with the towel trick. Or wrap it up in some sort of heat retaining cloth/blanket to cause it to overheat and die.

Poofta!
10-04-2008, 04:27 PM
you dont think MS has lost enough cash on this without pissants like you trying to rip them off? the console works, has for 3 years. be happy asshat.

coreys429
10-04-2008, 04:42 PM
you dont think MS has lost enough cash on this without pissants like you trying to rip them off? the console works, has for 3 years. be happy asshat.

I agree. If it has lasted 3 years no problems why ruin a good thing? There are people out there that can fix it if it goes haywire.

s1lence
10-04-2008, 04:52 PM
Putting it a poorly vented place or blocking the exhaust port.

I kinda agree though, your system works fine and it may continue to not fail if it hasn't by now so why do it?

otaku
10-04-2008, 05:01 PM
Mine made it a year then died its been about a year or two since then and now the disc drive is messed up so keep in mind you may run into other problems besides RROD this thing truly is a POS

Nick
10-04-2008, 05:48 PM
I got it!

I got a sexy RROD after trying to set the factory default settings or something. *googling what I did* Hmm..it looks like it resets HDD stuff too...maybe remove it before you do this...However, I tried this without removing HDD and nothing happened BUT I got a "pop" noise and a really sweet RROD. Basically its - Hold Y on your controller while powering up your 360.

walrusmonger
10-04-2008, 06:22 PM
I would highly suggest keeping your system and not wasting your time trying to deal with MS.


Reasons why:

1. your system works, and has been working. unless you're having any issues you didn't mention, you have a solid machine.

2. you will be without a 360 for at least 1.5 to 2 weeks, my brother spent over a month and a half waiting for his replacement. this is not the time to do this, all of the great fall games are coming out.

3. you will get a refurbished system back, which can very well end up being less reliable than your current one.

4. the price has dropped to $200 for a core system right? worst case you just buy a new one and get a brand new warranty.

5. people that play the system ususally end up getting something far worse in retaliation down the road. I'm not a religious man by any means, but I do believe in a karma system, and this is not the way to keep things on your side.

Anyway, good luck- the best way is to probably wrap it up and leave it in an enclosed space.

chicnstu
10-04-2008, 06:31 PM
I do believe in a karma system, and this is not the way to keep things on your side.

Microsoft made the idiotic choice of producing a problematic system so bad karma to them, in my opinion it's what they deserve. There is a very high possibility that his system will fail soon so I don't see the problem with him forcing it to fail before it fails after his warranty expires.

gepeto
10-04-2008, 06:59 PM
What happens if it breaks but not the rrod?

walrusmonger
10-04-2008, 07:27 PM
Microsoft made the idiotic choice of producing a problematic system so bad karma to them, in my opinion it's what they deserve. There is a very high possibility that his system will fail soon so I don't see the problem with him forcing it to fail before it fails after his warranty expires.

Microsoft did what they could in order to get their system out as cheaply as possible to hit the marketplace before everyone else. In turn they changed exactly what a console's online experience should be, and have benefited gamers as a whole.

The PS2 had similar hardware failure problems, except Sony didn't offer nearly as generous of a coverage plan as MS did.

If his system has been working great for 3 years, and he puts a decent amount of use on it, I'm sure he will be fine for another couple of years. If he breaks his system and gets a refurb, the refurb will have what... 90 days on it? After that, guess what- he's out of luck! I would rather have my own broken system instead of someone elses refurbished broken system. I know they don't give you another 3 years on the refurb system.

icbrkr
10-04-2008, 07:30 PM
Does it have to RROD? I mean, my system RRoD's for at least a month before it actually died for the last time. You can just 'say' it RRoD'd a few times...

Berserker
10-04-2008, 07:46 PM
Microsoft made the idiotic choice of producing a problematic system so bad karma to them, in my opinion it's what they deserve. There is a very high possibility that his system will fail soon so I don't see the problem with him forcing it to fail before it fails after his warranty expires.

Microsoft extended the warranty to 3 years for customers who have problematic systems. It's a backwards solution, but they've chosen to foot the large bill involved in such a decision to maintain customer loyalty. If someone who has a system that works perfectly for 3 years tries to break their console on purpose in order to take advantage of this, that's patently dishonest, and talk of Microsoft deserving "bad karma" for something that didn't even affect them is merely justifying opportunism.

chicnstu
10-04-2008, 07:49 PM
Microsoft did what they could in order to get their system out as cheaply as possible to hit the marketplace before everyone else. In turn they changed exactly what a console's online experience should be, and have benefited gamers as a whole.

The PS2 had similar hardware failure problems, except Sony didn't offer nearly as generous of a coverage plan as MS did.

Ok, let's look at it as balance:

Microsoft made a faulty system (-1)---->Three years later they start fixing them, nice thing to do (+1) = (0).

If his system if faulty and since Microsoft didn't put a good warranty time on it I think he deserves to have it fixed if it breaks down, whether it does automatically or is intentionally caused by TurboGenesis. It's what microsoft deserves and should do to get away from being at -1.

I don't know about everyone else but having great online features isn't going to change my mind about their mistake...or pay for the $200 for a new one if it stops working after the warranty expires.



If his system has been working great for 3 years, and he puts a decent amount of use on it, I'm sure he will be fine for another couple of years. If he breaks his system and gets a refurb, the refurb will have what... 90 days on it? After that, guess what- he's out of luck! I would rather have my own broken system instead of someone elses refurbished broken system. I know they don't give you another 3 years on the refurb system.

At least a refurbished console (if I've been reading things correctly) will be fixed the way the system should have been made when it was first launched, meaning less of a chance of having problems than a three year old system.


What happens if it breaks but not the rrod

Then it's not Microsoft's fault and the owner should be able to tell if it was a RROD failure (red rings).

walrusmonger
10-04-2008, 08:16 PM
Ok, let's look at it as balance:

Microsoft made a faulty system (-1)---->Three years later they start fixing them, nice thing to do (+1) = (0).

If his system if faulty and since Microsoft didn't put a good warranty time on it I think he deserves to have it fixed if it breaks down, whether it does automatically or is intentionally caused by TurboGenesis. It's what microsoft deserves and should do to get away from being at -1.

I don't know about everyone else but having great online features isn't going to change my mind about their mistake...or pay for the $200 for a new one if it stops working after the warranty expires.


MS stared the repair program in July 2007, so thats about a year and a half after it launched. Because they exended the warranty to 3 years this means people should intentionally break their system to make MS repair their console? It's there for people that need it, and most people wont need it- there is not a 100% defect rate in the original model 360! I know many people who are on -original- systems, and a few who have needed to get their system replaced. If your system works, and you have put good amounts of time on it, you probably have a *good* system- it's not like a ticking time bomb waiting for your warranty to run out.

By your logic, because most drivers pay for car insurance they should all get into accidents to make sure they get the true value out of their policy?

geneshifter
10-04-2008, 08:40 PM
you dont think MS has lost enough cash on this without pissants like you trying to rip them off? the console works, has for 3 years. be happy asshat.

Shoot, I say let's all, even those that just bought one, do the towel trick tonight and spike the number of repairs for MS just out of spite!

Leo_A
10-04-2008, 08:55 PM
I don't have a clue why you'd do this. You'll get back someone else's repaired console, with who knows what damage just lurking under the surface or how much abuse it's sufferred.

You don't know if the person dropped it once and damaged things that are just waiting to now break, that was repaired just to fix whatever immediate problem it had (Such as the 3 red rings error). Or get someone's console whose disc drive is in its final days due to playing so many DVD's over the past few years, that was repaired to fix some other problem and is now waiting to be sent off to replace the next guy's 360.

If you've taken care of it and its been error free, why basically exchange it for something from a unknown source that's been broken and had to be repaired. MS neither has the time or the ability to guage how much life is left in every component of the 360 you'll get. They fix the immediate problem and move on, shipping it out to the next person that required warranty service with a replacement serial number on the label.

You'll likely not be receiving your console back, even if the serial numbers match. Nor will you be receiving a new console even if the date on the label indicates its very recent, that from the sounds of it is just something they apply to serviced 360's now to indicate when it was last worked on.

TurboGenesis
10-04-2008, 09:00 PM
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MR.TI994A
10-04-2008, 09:40 PM
TurboGenesis, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

By analogy...

My health insurance runs out at the end of month, so I thought I'd expose myself to contagious diseases so I can be treated now rather than later in case I catch any of them after my coverage expires.

It also brings to memory, one of my favorite Looney Tunes shorts, "Rabbit Seasoning"...

Bugs Bunny: Would you like to shoot me now or wait 'til you get home?
Daffy Duck: Shoot him now! Shoot him now!
Bugs Bunny: You keep outta this! He doesn't have to shoot you now!
Daffy Duck: He does SO have to shoot me now!
[to Elmer]
Daffy Duck: I demand that you shoot me now!

PapaStu
10-04-2008, 09:50 PM
What happens if it breaks but not the rrod?

It depends on if you got the extended warranty or not. I got the extended warranty, and my disc drive died, just at a year (it died right before xmas, I got it the previous Xmas) and if I didn't have the warranty I would have been out of luck.



Everyone needs to lay off each other here, i've seen people doing other nefarious things who've gotten less flack. I don't personally think that he should RRoD his system, but thats just my opinion. There are better and more meaningful ways to tell someone you disagree with them than to stoop to cursing and name calling. Everyone has now been warned.

Turbo, your launch system is still going strong, and if you've put a decent amount of hours into it, i'd venture a guess that its probably going to be just fine. Sounds like you were one of the lucky ones. I've got a refurb system, that makes horrible screechy noises now with many discs as it spins them in the trays and i'm still not sure that its going to stay working and happy in the coming future. It sounds like you've already made up your mind that you want to kill it. The easiest way is to really overheat it and kill the air circulation. People have said how to do that.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

TheRealist50
10-04-2008, 09:52 PM
my 360 died a little over a year from when I got it...I get a new one and it dies within a month...If you want to take that risk then it doesn't matter what any of us say. Its your choice, do what you want. But the point is, If it ain't broke don't fix it. I gave you a tip on how to dispose of it but I wouldn't recommend it. We can't twist your arm into doing something you don't want. If you feel this is the right choice then go for it.

Singapura
10-04-2008, 09:52 PM
What the fuck are you attack on me when you are not know me?

He doesn't have to know you to determine that you're a back covering sombrero. Actually what you're proposing is more criminal then modding or piracy. It's downright fraud. You seem the kind of guy that sets his house on fire because he thinks he paid enough insurance. It's true that Microsoft designed the 360 badly. They decided to put a remedy in place to help the victims. Trying to defraud them by intentionally RROD-ing is stealing and can put you in jail :smash:

By the way, Microsoft could even sue this forum for allowing this thread.

Leo_A
10-04-2008, 09:56 PM
I am not like to be call name and make fun of… I have suffer these torment because I am a different culture my whole life Fuck off because I ask question on how I can get my console in for repair before I am loose money.

For those who offer suggestions, I give Thanks to you…


Stop whining, I doubt a single person in here knew you were a immigrant or an alien until you screwed up every other word with that last post. How come you could type with your first post, and not now? They're offering unbiased views on what you're trying to do, none of us could care about your ethnic background or whatever you were trying to imply by intentionally screwing that last post up.

Anyways, I'm out before I say something the moderators won't appreciate. :)

slip81
10-04-2008, 09:56 PM
What the fuck are you attack on me when you are not know me?

I post this thread because I have hear for long time that Xbox 360 are all failure with RRoD due to poor design and they offer warranty to save from PR disaster when console are have failure.

I regret that I have many issue going on during credit crunch and am look at how to use service they offer for console that they are make in poor design. I fear that I will see failure of the RRoD AFTER November and will have to get repair out of pockets. I know of no one but myself who are have to have there machine serviced. I am call the lucky one as my console is never fail. I have two 360, one USA and one Asia, both are build in 2005 and both are run well with no problem. I am already have to look for local repair for Japanese console if it is to ever RRoD because Microsoft may not send back Japan console so I take that risk out of my pocketbook.

I am not like to be call name and make fun of… I have suffer these torment because I am a different culture my whole life Fuck off because I ask question on how I can get my console in for repair before I am loose money.

For those who offer suggestions, I give Thanks to you…

making console fail easy so even cave man do it can.

TheRealist50
10-04-2008, 09:58 PM
He doesn't have to know you to determine that you're a back covering sombrero. Actually what you're proposing is more criminal then modding or piracy. It's downright fraud. You seem the kind of guy that sets his house on fire because he thinks he paid enough insurance. It's true that Microsoft designed the 360 badly. They decided to put a remedy in place to help the victims. Trying to defraud them by intentionally RROD-ing is stealing and can put you in jail :smash:

By the way, Microsoft could even sue this forum for allowing this thread.

Yah know...Its legal to mod your console here in Canada :)

TurboGenesis
10-04-2008, 10:24 PM
Thread has gone to far.
LOCK Request.

E Nice
10-04-2008, 10:56 PM
...because I am "look to scam Microsoft" but the way you people are call names to me, be unkind and come about high brow is show who the people of questionable character truly are.

I think the saying was the pot calling the kettle black.

TheRealist50
10-04-2008, 10:58 PM
It is nice how everyone attack me.

I post question and get shit on.
Why are people feel they are better than me?

I was not well aware that this was a subject of taboo. Because I start thread about a subject I am now put up for this ridicule and made fun of?

I am rare poster because I have hard time to communicate proper and when I do I am laugh at.

People in this forum are horrible people. You are shit on me because I am "look to scam Microsoft" but the way you people are call names to me, be unkind and come about high brow is show who the people of questionable character truly are. Lack of respect and compassion to fellow man is far worse than a fellow who is looking for idea on service of product

Thread has gone to far.
LOCK Request.

nobody is laughing at you, nobody is making fun of you or where your from or how you speak. Its just about what you wanted to do. I realized you never intended to scam microsoft but it came off like you were trying too, even though that wasn't your intention.

People should have told you a little nicer that what your doing is wrong, but that wasn't the case.

theChad
10-04-2008, 11:07 PM
The towel trick can be used to fix your console as well as break it from what I've heard from a couple friends who've tried it. My cousin got RRoD, used the towel trick and his 360 was alive again for another month or two, then it went again, so he did the trick and got it back for a while longer. I know he eventually sent it in, so I'm not sure how long this went on for.

boatofcar
10-04-2008, 11:31 PM
So you ask for advice on how to commit fraud and you get offended by people calling you out on it, and you play the race card? Boy oh boy....

walrusmonger
10-04-2008, 11:47 PM
It is nice how everyone attack me.

I post question and get shit on.
Why are people feel they are better than me?

I was not well aware that this was a subject of taboo. Because I start thread about a subject I am now put up for this ridicule and made fun of?

I am rare poster because I have hard time to communicate proper and when I do I am laugh at.

People in this forum are horrible people. You are shit on me because I am "look to scam Microsoft" but the way you people are call names to me, be unkind and come about high brow is show who the people of questionable character truly are. Lack of respect and compassion to fellow man is far worse than a fellow who is looking for idea on service of product

Thread has gone to far.
LOCK Request.

I tried to help you, and nobody knew you were not a native speaker since your first post was not written poorly. You are digging yourself deeper, if you want this thread to stop you should just stop responding since you're going to trigger more responses by making all these excuses.

Apollo
10-04-2008, 11:55 PM
So you ask for advice on how to commit fraud and you get offended by people calling you out on it, and you play the race card? Boy oh boy....

It's like some sort of contest! Oh boy!

PapaStu
10-05-2008, 01:57 AM
And this thread has hit its RRoD and has been sent in for locking.

**lockerooni**