Worst LE Product in terms of value?

[boatofcar]

Has their been a bigger limited edition flop than the Halo 3 bundle with the cat helmet?

[TonyTheTiger]

Are you talking value as in monetary worth or worst value in terms of overpriced for the contents?

If it's the former, I'd say the limited edition of Jade Empire. I love the game but they released the limited edition at the same time for the same price and I'm pretty sure I've seen more of that version anyway which makes the extra-less one 100% pointless.

I don't know about the latter.

[PapaStu]

Well if we wanna get technical the stupidity of Transformers: The Movie: Cybertron Edition (GameStop exclusive LE) probably takes the cake, that or any of the +10 buck you get a bonus dvd with a 20 minute making of on it games (Splinter Cell: DA, CoD2, CoD3 GOTY editions). If we're talking overproduced shit, Perfect Dark Zero. If we're talking big stuffs, I think that the Prey LE was pretty bad, that and once the cuteness wears off for the PipBoy Amazon bonus for Fallout 3 and the full sized Lancer bonus for Gears 2 they are going to be right up there with the Halo 3 Spartan Helmet in WTF did I buy this for. You can't even put it on your cat... I tried. I would have had to cut it up to even try and get either of my cats heads to fit in it and I wasn't willing to trash my helmet to make the cat a Spartan trooper.

[boatofcar]

I guess I meant a LE that there was a lot of hype for and made available at a super expensive price that nobody ended up paying and resulting in the LE being marked down significantly after it was first introduced. Has there been another example of this, or is Halo 3 the only one?

[SpaceHarrier]

that or any of the +10 buck you get a bonus dvd with a 20 minute making of on it games

I'll just pick this thread to complain about the FFXII LE tin box. First off, I practically had to break the discs in half to get them off the spindles (actually never put the game disc back in it). Second, on my copy of the 'bonus DVD' -- one of the DVD links is busted. I think it was the music one. So when you click on it, you get some other interview, and thus can't access it through normal means.

Awesome.

The tin case is still pretty cool, on the outside.

[DigitalSpace]

The Madden 2005 Collector's Edition for the PS2 is up there. Sure, it has a little more bonus material than the "bonus DVD" LE's, but like pretty much every other old sports title out there, you can easily get a copy for a buck or less.

[ProgrammingAce]

i'm going to nominate fable 2 for worst LE letdown of all time...

as for the halo 3 legendary packs, without giving any hard numbers away, the legendary pack stood for slightly less then 10% of the initial production run. As far as i'm aware, halo 3 hasn't had a second print run.

When you look at it that way, the helmet is still fairly rare... it was just stupidly expensive. At that point, it's a matter of scale. They sold a shit-ton of halo 3.

[roushimsx]

i'm going to nominate fable 2 for worst LE letdown of all time...

The original plan for Fable 2's LE was really cool, but good lord have they done a wonderful job of completely destroying the neatness of it in an incredibly short time.Too bad. I feel bad for anyone that actually buys the LE over the normal edition :(

I'd like to nominate Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor Limited Edition. The game was coming out after the massive success of Baldur's Gate II but was supposed to be the first true 3rd edition DnD-based game and it was a follow up to a beloved classic DOS RPG.

So imagine everyone's surprise when it turned out to be a steaming turd. The game constantly cheated on dice rolls, the the gameplay was dull, the story never really went anywhere and if you installed to any location other than the default directory, it'd wipe your C: drive when uninstalling.

Yea.

So the LE came with a typical throwaway DnD novelization of the game and a soundtrack (which was just as unawesome as the game and book) in a great big box for $60+tax. At least the box was cool, I guess?

[geneshifter]

The US Assassin's Creed one blew chunks.

[gepeto]

The US Assassin's Creed one blew chunks.


All man did it ever and I was for warned. The misinfo at first on the altair doll was wacked. Case was just azz oversized and empty a true milking.

RE4 for the gamestop was a big turd in my opinion. There was a big play on words lithograph study guide I almost swore off le's completely on that one.

Prey at least gave you 2 toy soldiers.

[kaedesdisciple]

RE4 for the gamestop was a big turd in my opinion. There was a big play on words lithograph study guide I almost swore off le's completely on that one.



Yup, I'm a big RE fan and I got pretty incensed at that one. The tin is a flimsy piece of trash that has paint scratch off of it the second you touch it.

[Deadman]

I'm all for "unique" or limited stuff, but the Halo 3 debacle has shut me off of LE's probably forever. I waited in line for the honor of paying $129 for that sucker, only to see it stick around long enough to be clearanced for $49?!?! I'm still bitter about it.

I think the main problem with the Halo 3 pack is that while it is technically "limited", the production numbers were just too high. If they had set a number, say 5000 or 10000 and put that on the box, they would have sold much better, but I seem to remember that the numbers on the box were in the 100,000 range or more. Every game is limited - meaning that they won't be produced forever, so making a special edition of something should be just that - Special. And if you buy something for $129, it shouldn't be sitting on shelves at every Best Buy and Gamestop a year later for half that price. That's not limited, and it's not special.

[PentiumMMX]

The worst would probably be the Halo 3 Collector's Edition (A flimsy tin, a bonus DVD of the making of the game, and a price increase of $10. Not worth it, especially since most people wanted Legendary Edition so they could essentially have a paperweight shaped like Master Chief's helmet).

[mailman187666]

I think a good portion of the time, none of the LE bundles are ever really worth it. MGS4 and Oblivion has nice packages and bonus content, but every other LE I ever see seems to be garbage. Some of the PS2 Atlus LEs came with some alright bonus stuff too like the Growlancer games. I pretty much stay away from LEs all together. After MGS3: Subsistence LE and how much that retained its value, I went right for the MGS4 LE and preordered it. Final Fantasy XII LE had I cool case but was far from limited.

[Porksta]

GTA IV has sweet content. As for me, I am an LE whore. If I plan to buy a video game, CD, or movie, it has to be the super badass edition. Thankfully I don't have a 360 so when I do, I can get all the LEs for cheap.

[swlovinist]

LE versions of games = Foil Covers for Comic Books of the 90s

Mostly Flash and very little substance


With that being said, another vote for Perfect Dark Zero, what a lame extra

runner up would definately be Halo LE...a $130 LE bundle that was overproduced with a compliation of all the movies from the HALO games....that has the polish of a youtube video.

I once was collecting LE editions, and found that I could spend more money on actual games that I could play. After all, that is why I got into the hobby in the first place.

[TonyTheTiger]

What's the story on the Fable II limited edition? What was it supposed to be?

[SegaAges]

I am so getting the Halo 3 Legendary Edition now that I can get it for like 50 or 60.

I am waiting on GTA4: SE to go down to 50 or 60 new to get that (I missed it from Target as there are no more in my area that have it). If it is still at a Target near you, please PM me.

[MrSparkle]

there was that damned limited edition of mana khemia with the doll included. Only released in a quantity of about 1000 i believe.

[sisko]

I'd imagine that the Dead Space LE set is going to be up there too:

http://eastore.ea.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=ea&Locale=en_US&ThemeID=718200&Env=BASE&productID=106790800

Even though it *is* truly limited, I fail to see how that stuff is worth anywhere near $150.

[norkusa]

GTA IV has sweet content. As for me, I am an LE whore. If I plan to buy a video game, CD, or movie, it has to be the super badass edition. Thankfully I don't have a 360 so when I do, I can get all the LEs for cheap.


The GTA IV LE is $22.98 at Target right now if you can still find them.

[Oobgarm]

there was that damned limited edition of mana khemia with the doll included. Only released in a quantity of about 1000 i believe.

Not a true LE in the sense we're discussing here. NIS simply tossed a copy of the game together with an imported Japanese figure-with nothing to note that it was a set or anything...just them mentioning it online to get people excited and pre-order.

Capcom's done that in the past with figurines and soundtracks.

[Electric Blue]

I'd imagine that the Dead Space LE set is going to be up there too:

http://eastore.ea.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=ea&Locale=en_US&ThemeID=718200&Env=BASE&productID=106790800

Even though it *is* truly limited, I fail to see how that stuff is worth anywhere near $150.

Yeah, I bit on this LE last week. It's really a gamble more than anything. I'm hoping one of two things happens:

1) The 1000 units sell out before the game is launched. If the game is a hit, I have something that might go up in value.

2) The units don't sell out, so EA adds extras to the pot or drops the price of the pre-order to sane levels.

We'll see I guess. With my love of Survival Horror games, I couldn't pass this up.

[c0ldb33r]

As for the worst, I vote for Halo 3 cat helmet edition. I actually think the cat helmet is pretty neat (although useless). My problems with it are two:

1) The massive price reduction in a relatively short amount of time.

2) Why is the Halo 3 game disc case black?!? This pisses me off to no end. I keep it with my other xbox 360 games and it looks like I've replaced the case with a knockoff. Would it have killed them to put it in a green case?

Although this thread isn't about it, my vote for the best LE is Doom 3 for the xbox - I loved playing the original doom with an xbox controller :)

[le geek]

I once was collecting LE editions, and found that I could spend more money on actual games that I could play. After all, that is why I got into the hobby in the first place.

Yeah sorry. They all suck.

[SegaAges]

The GTA IV LE is $22.98 at Target right now if you can still find them.


WOOT!

Dude, I have been to all of the Targets in my city and none of them have it.

This is sorta on topic, but seriously, anybody have a Target near them with one of these, buy it and I will get it from you (even throw you some bones for gas and , of course, shipping). Make sure it is the 360 one, as I do not own a ps3, hehehe.

But I am completely serious. 22.98, dude, somebody has to have a Target with 1 of those left.

[Deadman]

Earlier, I rambled something that included this:


.... And if you buy something for $129, it shouldn't be sitting on shelves at every Best Buy and Gamestop a year later for half that price. That's not limited, and it's not special.

Well, today I went to GameStop and got the Helmet and packaging of the Legendary Edition FREE! I'll say it again, FREE! Apparently, Gamestop brass are tired of these monsters taking up floor and display space, so the managers were ordered to remove the games themselves from the LE's and to throw away the Helmets and packaging!!

So, as I was standing there, he offered me one, and since I have two kids, he gave me TWO of them!!

Now this for sure has got to make this the worst LE offering ever....

[SegaAges]

Earlier, I rambled something that included this:



Well, today I went to GameStop and got the Helmet and packaging of the Legendary Edition FREE! I'll say it again, FREE! Apparently, Gamestop brass are tired of these monsters taking up floor and display space, so the managers were ordered to remove the games themselves from the LE's and to throw away the Helmets and packaging!!

So, as I was standing there, he offered me one, and since I have two kids, he gave me TWO of them!!

Now this for sure has got to make this the worst LE offering ever....

WOOT!

This rocks for me, maybe. I like to strike when the irons hot, but hopefully I didn't wait too long and now they are throwing them all away, hence I have to get gouged on eBay

[Slate]

I heard from CAG the Halo 3 LEs were being clearanced for $30. Good thing I was never a fan of Halo.

[Ikari Warrior]

The Splinter Cell Double Agent one was pretty bad, ugly boxart that was worse than the regular and a making of Dvd that lasted about 10 minutes.

[jdc]

All of this talk REALLY makes me miss dear old Working Designs. Most would agree that that company kicked the shit out of ANY other when it came to cool packages and value for money paid. No-one else has even come close. I remember that the guy responsible for the gorgeous hardcover instruction books used to post here. I still open up the boxes and admire his work from time to time. The Vanguard Bandits stand alone book is a personal fave.

[roushimsx]

PS3 GTA IV LE isn't on clearance at my Target, only the 360 one is :(

[TonyTheTiger]

All of this talk REALLY makes me miss dear old Working Designs. Most would agree that that company kicked the shit out of ANY other when it came to cool packages and value for money paid. No-one else has even come close. I remember that the guy responsible for the gorgeous hardcover instruction books used to post here. I still open up the boxes and admire his work from time to time. The Vanguard Bandits stand alone book is a personal fave.

Zach Meston?

Working Designs holds a special place in my heart. Victor Ireland didn't always make the best choices when picking games to localize but he did his best with what he had. The Working Designs flair made otherwise mediocre games entertaining.

Unfortunately, the company didn't seem to have the best business sense. It's a shame, really.

[The 1 2 P]

PS3 GTA IV LE isn't on clearance at my Target, only the 360 one is :(

How much is it?

[roushimsx]

How much is it?

$44 at the one I stopped at today. Going to call the other Target that's close by tomorrow to see what they've got.

If I could find the PS3 LE for $44 or less, I'd be all over that shit.

Right about now is when I start feeling sorry for not buying a 360 yet.

[The 1 2 P]

Right about now is when I start feeling sorry for not buying a 360 yet.

Lol. Don't feel too bad though, because most of the best deals at my Targets(Orange Box for $14.98 and Unreal 3 for $19.99) are for PS3 version games.

[Ze_ro]

I guess I meant a LE that there was a lot of hype for and made available at a super expensive price that nobody ended up paying and resulting in the LE being marked down significantly after it was first introduced. Has there been another example of this, or is Halo 3 the only one?
I'd suggest the Two Worlds and Stranglehold LE's. I see them regularly, at the same price as the regular copies. Neither game was very popular or hyped though.

--Zero

[roushimsx]

I'd suggest the Two Worlds and Stranglehold LE's. I see them regularly, at the same price as the regular copies. Neither game was very popular or hyped though.


Oh god, the PS3 Stranglehold LE was a joke. First they hyped it up by saying that it was truly limited because it'd only have a six figure run (...oh god...) and then they hyped up the inclusion of Hard Boiled on the BluRay and sold it like it was going to actually be an HD transfer or some such.

Yea, that didn't pan out.

Thank god it plummeted in price quickly.

[backguard]

I am so getting the Halo 3 Legendary Edition now that I can get it for like 50 or 60.

I am waiting on GTA4: SE to go down to 50 or 60 new to get that (I missed it from Target as there are no more in my area that have it). If it is still at a Target near you, please PM me.

the gtaiv bundle definitely belongs in there....

it was so "limited" that there are still multiple copies at nearly every big box retailer i've seen

[fuchikoma]

Bioshock LE seems to have held its value.

[SegaAges]

The GTA4 Deal is YMMV.

I found a Target that had 1 copy of the game, and it was going for 62 STILL!

[jdc]

@ Tony The Tiger. Yep, it WAS Zach Meston. I couldn't remember his name. Maybe in a perfect world a phoenix might rise from the ashes and a new Working Designs would emerge. I'd truly LOVE to see that happen but I ain't holding my breath.

[kaedesdisciple]

You know, now that I think about it, I never heard about someone coming up with one of those signed LE copies of Devil May Cry 4...

[TonyTheTiger]

It's hard to say. Victor Ireland has been building a new company GaijinWorks (yeah, the name could use some work) but it doesn't seem to be doing much.

In it's heyday, Working Designs was doing something nobody else was. Concepts like collector's editions, high quality packaging, etc. were more or less unheard of. Even grammar checked translations were something special at the time. So WD made a name for itself. But little by little other publishers started doing similar things and were able to do it faster and cheaper. After a while, you can't put up with year+ long delays and prices that are $20+ more than the game sitting beside it. Add in the fact that there was no longer as rich a pool of games waiting to be nabbed by WD (because the original publishers were handling more localizations themselves) and you have a market that no longer has a place for the company.

[Electric Blue]

It's hard to say. Victor Ireland has been building a new company GaijinWorks (yeah, the name could use some work) but it doesn't seem to be doing much.

In it's heyday, Working Designs was doing something nobody else was. Concepts like collector's editions, high quality packaging, etc. were more or less unheard of. Even grammar checked translations were something special at the time. So WD made a name for itself. But little by little other publishers started doing similar things and were able to do it faster and cheaper. After a while, you can't put up with year+ long delays and prices that are $20+ more than the game sitting beside it. Add in the fact that there was no longer as rich a pool of games waiting to be nabbed by WD (because the original publishers were handling more localizations themselves) and you have a market that no longer has a place for the company.

Yep, WD pioneered the "Niche JP game" market that we see continued by Atlus and NIS. We owe a lot to the success of WD's PSX release of Lunar, it really opened the floodgates.

[roushimsx]

The GTA4 Deal is YMMV.

I found a Target that had 1 copy of the game, and it was going for 62 STILL!

Checked two other Targets and they didn't even have the 360 version on clearance :'(

[SegaAges]

I remembered today that I own the Tony Hawk's Proving Grounds Limited Edition. It sucked. it just had a cardboard sleeve over it and a dvd stuffed inside that was in a paper sleeve.

What other 360 games came out in LE form:

From what I know:
Rock Band (LE form = instruments with it)
Tony Hawk's Proving Grounds
GTA 4
Halo 3
Bioshock
Splinter Cell
Perfect Dark
Prey
Rainbow 6 Vegas 2
Mass Effect
Assassin's Creed
Brother's in Arms: Hells Highway
Soul Calibur 4

Is that about it?

And also, which ones are in an abnormally big sized box (i.e. not something that fits on the shelf all to well). I know of gta4, halo, and soul calibur, but what about the others (not counting the random metal tin ones that were store specific

[Queen Of The Felines]

There was also a Smackdown vs. Raw 2007 special edition.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320306346983

[SegaAges]

There was also a Smackdown vs. Raw 2007 special edition.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320306346983
I was trying to forget, thank you for reminding me

hmm, which ones out of these actually come in a box that is way bigger than a dvd case though? Don't count those aluminum gamestop cases.

The only ones I can think of are:
halo 3
rock band
gta4
soul calibur 4

any others super big that are released?

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

Yep, WD pioneered the "Niche JP game" market that we see continued by Atlus and NIS. We owe a lot to the success of WD's PSX release of Lunar, it really opened the floodgates.

In case you or anyone else is interested, Vic has some new sealed games up on eBay right now. Most of them he offers to autograph for you if you want. Don't expect to get them cheap though. Search for all items by gamegenie

JY

[PapaStu]

I was trying to forget, thank you for reminding me

hmm, which ones out of these actually come in a box that is way bigger than a dvd case though? Don't count those aluminum gamestop cases.

The only ones I can think of are:
halo 3
rock band
gta4
soul calibur 4

any others super big that are released?


PREY
Assassins Creed
GTA IV
Bioshock (assuming you've got the outerbox and figure)
Smackdown Vs. Raw 2007

[ProgrammingAce]

The GTA4 Deal is YMMV.

I found a Target that had 1 copy of the game, and it was going for 62 STILL!

I grabbed the last one at a local target today, my regular edition oxidized. $42

[bcks007]

Transformers: The Game (Collector's Edition)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/image/932116.html?box=85524

[The 1 2 P]

I grabbed the last one at a local target today, my regular edition oxidized. $42

I too grabbed the last one at my Target. The last time I was there they didn't have any 360 ones left, but this time they had one left and it was discounted for $44.98.......as it sat right next to the regular less-packed version for full retail at $59.99. That sure was an easy choice. Another limited edition heavily discounted within a mere 6 months of release:).