Marvel vs Capcom 2 - XBLA / PSN

[CosmicMonkey]

Capcom FTW! (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/13/esrb-rates-marvel-vs-capcom-2-for-ps3-xbox-360/) Hopefully it'll be out for Xmas.

Come on Capcom, now release a Power Stone Collection on PSN.

[mnkysuit]

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[Poofta!]

its its 10$ or less, i'll buy it. not a penny more.

on a side note, having been part of xbl since its inception, (and 6months w/ psn), this will be the first game i could justify buying and owning.

[heybtbm]

I'm all for great games being introduced to new audiences...but I don't see me buying this. Mainly because there's nothing wrong with my Dreamcast version. I might be swayed by online play, but I seriously doubt it's going to happen.

[CosmicMonkey]

If you're using a CRT telly, then you probably are better sticking with the Dreamcast version. However, if you're on an LCD/Plasma then the PSN/XBLA is the way to go. The PS3 will spit the signal out at either 720p or 1080p, and depending on what your telly's native resolution is, this will result in hardly any lag, or non at all. If if you're running a DC via VGA box into your LCD, there will be scaling and lag involved.

I'd also imagine that there will be online vs. and ranking and the such.

And of course there's the advantage of only having to have the one box set-up under the telly.

[Darren870]

I have a feeling this wont be online. Remember the reason this wasn't on xbox live for the original xbox? It was because Capcom had lost its rights to the Marvel Franchise and Marvel said if online play was added it would be considered a "new" game and they could sue them for illegal use of there characters...

Doesn't Activision own the Marvel rights now?

I don't see this having online play...then again I could be wrong and maybe something was worked out.

[Sosage]

I can't imagine anyone being into this game and yet acting so blah about this release, especially if online is involved. You either don't play this game very much or you have a massive real life player base to play with (or you're trying to act cool...which you aren't...because we're all talking about the video games).

If GGPO code is implemented...GFG every other version.

[Nebagram]

Egh, I'm unfortunately reminded of all the furore that surrounded Soul Calibur's XBLA debut... fortunately Capcom have a good track record when it comes to updating their classic fighters so I have a good feeling about this one.

[roushimsx]

I'm not much of a fan of the game, but I think that it's neat that they're finally rereleasing it for people that don't feel like taking it in the ass at Gamestop or eBay.

[evil_genius]

Love this game and am definitely going to be buying it on XBLA.

[The 1 2 P]

So does this mean that I can no longer get $80-100 for my copies on ebay? As for online play, it's possible. Sega kept saying Virtual Fighter would never be taking online because of lag and look what happened with VF5(gotta have a 360 if you want the cooler version). Although they goofed with Soul Calibur, theres still a chance this will have online Vs, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Arcade_Ness]

I'll wait and see on this one. If it has online play and other extras than, hell yeah. I got my PS2 copy from Gamecrazy for like 20-30(my memory is foggy).

[G-Boobie]

I'm not much of a fan of the game, but I think that it's neat that they're finally rereleasing it for people that don't feel like taking it in the ass at Gamestop or eBay.

Amen, and pass the arcade stick.

My Dreamcast copy died a couple years or so ago, and I've never been able to justify picking it up again. If I could download that sucka directly to my PS3 and play my friends on the couch again, I'd spend twenty bucks(especially considering that the Dreamcast looks like crap on my HDTV).

I don't really care about online play. I'm not nearly good enough at MvC2 to avoid being heckled after getting anonymously stomped for the fiftieth time online.

[GrandAmChandler]

If it's $10 and has smooth online play, this is mine.

[ubersaurus]

I can't imagine anyone being into this game and yet acting so blah about this release, especially if online is involved. You either don't play this game very much or you have a massive real life player base to play with (or you're trying to act cool...which you aren't...because we're all talking about the video games).

If GGPO code is implemented...GFG every other version.

If it has online, then it'll have GGPO. Capcom's already said that they're licensing the algorithm for all post HD Remix fighting game projects. I guess after having trouble copying it for that game, they just decided to license the actual algorithm out.

It'd be pretty cool if it got rereleased. Tournamentwise, I think every organizer is ready to retire the Dreamcast in favor of the current gen machines.

[roushimsx]

If it has online, then it'll have GGPO. Capcom's already said that they're licensing the algorithm for all post HD Remix fighting game projects.

I think I just peed a little bit.

[DreamTR]

I think it will be PS2 for PSN.

I think it will be XBox version for XBox 360

I am sure it will lag. Every fighting game has some degree of lag. If you don't think they do, you don't have enough experience playing offline/arcade.

AS good as GGPO is, it masks lag differently with frame drops so you pick your poison when you play. I'd rather have Xbox Live myself (trading slight lag instead of Frame Drops) over GGPO, but you'll see what I'm talking about if you play it enough.

Slight button delay > Magic characters warping to other parts of the screen or moves appearing right in front of you randomly.

GGPO is best if you are within a US state of someone, as is Xbox Live. Anything after that, and fighting games are brutally different.

[ubersaurus]

I think it will be PS2 for PSN.

I think it will be XBox version for XBox 360

I am sure it will lag. Every fighting game has some degree of lag. If you don't think they do, you don't have enough experience playing offline/arcade.

AS good as GGPO is, it masks lag differently with frame drops so you pick your poison when you play. I'd rather have Xbox Live myself (trading slight lag instead of Frame Drops) over GGPO, but you'll see what I'm talking about if you play it enough.

Slight button delay > Magic characters warping to other parts of the screen or moves appearing right in front of you randomly.

GGPO is best if you are within a US state of someone, as is Xbox Live. Anything after that, and fighting games are brutally different.

I don't know. Given how different the PS2 and Xbox architectures are compared to the PS3 and 360, wouldn't it make more sense to just port over the Dreamcast or NAOMI versions? I mean, if it's going to be a pain in the ass anyway...

[flywheels]

Since I'm downsizing my game collection I'm hoping this "news" turns out to be true. I want on-line play, but I'll take it w/o it as well. Otherwise I'll be forced to track down the Xbox version to tide me over.

[Overbite]

IT'S MAHVEL BAYBEE!!

Capcom recently got the rights to Marvel back so I hope this means MvC3 is a possibility.

FUCK THE KNICKS!

[shopkins]

Awesome. My brother destroyed my Dreamcast copy years ago. He's destroyed, lost or had stolen most of the game I've lent him over the years, actually, but I still love him and never held it against him. But it would be great to get to play it again without having my wallet raped on Ebay or at game stores. I will never be good enough at fighting games to be competitive online, so that's not a major consideration for me.

[Captain Wrong]

No online = no sale
Port of PS2/Xbox version = no sale
> $10 = no sale

[roushimsx]

I think it will be PS2 for PSN.

Don't think that's possible considering the lack of PS2 compatibility in 40 and modern 80gb PS3s.

[G-Boobie]

I think it will be PS2 for PSN.

I think it will be XBox version for XBox 360
.

Yer wrong, son. Neither the 360 or PS3 have chip architectures anything like their predecessors. As you're no doubt aware, there's no integrated hardware backwards compatibility for Xbox games on 360. This is why only select Xbox games run on the 360 through software emulation. Only the 20, 60, and 80gig PS3's can run PS2 games through either hardware or software BC, so that's a bust too.

It'll be the Dreamcast or Naomi version like Ubersaurus already mentioned. They've already gotten DC emulation to work on the 360(Soul Calibur) already, so that's that for 360 owners. As for PS3, I'm sure it'll be the same. It's cheaper to port one set of code to two platforms than it is to port two different sets of code to two platforms.

[Nirvana]

I really need to buy a controller designed for fighting games for the 360. I'm not too keen on the 360's Dpad.

[MarioMania]

Would the value of the PS2 & Xbox versions go down in price

[heybtbm]

Would the value of the PS2 & Xbox versions go down in price


Based on the going Ebay price of every other re-released XBLA and PSN game so far, yes.

Regardless of this news, I've suspected for awhile now that MvC2 has hit a plateau. The high price has more to do with Gamestop's consistently insane trade in value (still ~$50) than the low supply/high demand factors that usually drive these things.

[The 1 2 P]

The high price has more to do with Gamestop's consistently insane trade in value (still ~$50)

Since when has Gamestop giving $50 for anything, let alone this game? The last time my Gamestop advertised trade-in value for this game it was $30, but I'm going to guess you mean $50 store credit as opposed to cash in hand. And even that wouldn't be true of the Xbox version because that sells in Gamestop for $59.99.

[heybtbm]

Achievements are revealed...

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/marvel-vs-capcom-2/achievements/

[kaedesdisciple]

Looks like it's time to sell while the price is still good. Haven't played the game in years anyway.

[The 1 2 P]

Achievements are revealed...

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/marvel-vs-capcom-2/achievements/

A friend on another site just told me about this but all those online achievements seems alittle rough for the casual player.


Looks like it's time to sell while the price is still good. Haven't played the game in years anyway.

Although that should be how it is, I'm not so sure if the prices will just flatline right away, if this year at all. They should definitely lower though.

[CosmicMonkey]

So is this official now then; I haven't seen any announcement? Link to more details, release date and price anyone please?

[Neil Koch]

Nothing official's been released yet. But with the achievements being revealed, and the game getting a ESRB rating, I think it's pretty safe to say the game will be coming out.

Current rumors have it being available in summer (July) and being $20.

[Dastardly Dylan]

Yes We Can

Change Is Good!

[CosmicMonkey]

So if this is Naomi emulation, then there really is no reason for Capcom not to release all the great games for that platform on Live/PSN: Power Stone 1 & 2, Capcom vs SNK Pro & 2 and even Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper.

Hell, there's no reason why AkSys and Type Moon can't bring us online-play versions of Guilty Gear XX and Melty Blood: ACT Cadenza.

[kupomogli]

A friend on another site just told me about this but all those online achievements seems alittle rough for the casual player.

I dunno. Looks incredibly easy to me. The only ones I'd see people having trouble on is "defeat opponent in 15 seconds," "perform a 100 hit combo," "perform a 200 hit combo."

Unlike Street Fighter 4 where the challenge mode, I think I could end up doing, but is extremely hard(where it gets to the point that defense and offense of enemy characters are higher, and they start to play atleast twice as good than the AI on arcade hardest.)

Anyways. I don't like MvC because of how unbalanced it is, but also the fact that it's data and not an actual copy. But. I was still considering it because it's a fighter that I'm decent at with online compatibility. That $20 price tag immediately turned my attention away. It's not worth the bs $100+ price tag much less one for $20. $9.99 and online would have been sold me and became my first PSN title.

[jcalder8]

I don't think it was cause the price to fall. It hasn't happened with any other releases. SOTN still commands a premium and that has been out for awhile now.

Also 20 is about 10 too much for my taste, I'll be passing for sure. If you could buy a physical copy of it I'd pay 30 though.

[Overbite]

I'd pay $20. I don't have a physical copy and I love mvc2

[The 1 2 P]

It's not worth the bs $100+ price tag much less one for $20. $9.99 and online would have been sold me and became my first PSN title.


Also 20 is about 10 too much for my taste, I'll be passing for sure. If you could buy a physical copy of it I'd pay 30 though.

Well, for $20 you only get a digital copy but you also get online multiplayer(something those $70-$120 copies on ebay don't have). $15 would have been nice but $20 isn't that bad considering how much it sells for elsewhere.

[GrandAmChandler]

$20 XBLA games can go to hell.

[Matt-El]

For Marvel Vs Capcom 2, I would willingly pay 20 bucks.

[SegaAges]

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My thoughts exactly. If it supports live, I will pwn some faces with Guile. He was my guy of choice in that game

[norkusa]

I don't see how MvC2 could be $20. SF2HD Remix is $15 and was an entirely new game built from scratch. MvC2 sounds like it'll just be a straight port of the existing game with online multiplayer thrown in. At most, it should be $10.

I'd love to see Capcom bundle MvC2 along with the other 2 Street Fighter games (and maybe SF Puzzle Fighter 2 too) into a single retail disc, kinda like what Namco did their Live Arcade games. I bet that would sell like hotcakes.

[jcalder8]

Well, for $20 you only get a digital copy but you also get online multiplayer(something those $70-$120 copies on ebay don't have). $15 would have been nice but $20 isn't that bad considering how much it sells for elsewhere.
I agree that if you're into online multiplayer it could be worth the money.

But to justify the price because of how much it sells for other places is dangerous.

What if Nintendo released NWC for the VC and charge 300 for it because of how much an actually copy costs. I know that's an extreme example but it's still the kind of thing that could happen.

[The 1 2 P]

I agree that if you're into online multiplayer it could be worth the money.

But to justify the price because of how much it sells for other places is dangerous.

What if Nintendo released NWC for the VC and charge 300 for it because of how much an actually copy costs. I know that's an extreme example but it's still the kind of thing that could happen.

I hope Nintendo does that. They'll get the hint when nobody downloads it, lol. I understand what you're saying though. I would love for this to be priced at $10 too but with the added multiplayer, achievements and leader boards, I can see Microsoft trying to squeeze more out of us. The only reason I'm getting it is because this chic on my friends list said she was going to own me in it:angel:

This is suppose to be coming to the PSN too. So I'm wondering if Sony prices their version cheaper would Microsoft follow suit. It would really just be one more thing for people to complain about but I'd like to see them both priced the same.

[Lothars]

$20 XBLA games can go to hell.


For Marvel Vs Capcom 2, I would willingly pay 20 bucks.

I agree with both of you but I will buy Marvel vs Capcom for 20 but I would prefer 15.

We Will see.

[CosmicMonkey]

http://www.tu4ar.com/

Potential MvC2 website? Oh well, we'll know in six days.

Source: Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/21/possible-marvel-vs-capcom-2-teaser-site-countdown/)

[Draven]

So does anyone think it will make its way to the Wii's Virtual Console?

[The 1 2 P]

So does anyone think it will make its way to the Wii's Virtual Console?

It should considering the installed base of the Wii, but I somehow doubt it.

[ThoughtBomb]

Yeah this is all nice and everything but uh, is it out yet? And if not when, dammit?!?!

[CosmicMonkey]

http://www.pringles.co.uk/images/range/base/prawncocktail_on.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QHaBlLBVAJk/RkEjHwBDo_I/AAAAAAAAAG0/_ha0ZkpTqQI/s320/curlyQmoustache.bmp

Take You 4 a Ride (http://www.tu4ar.com/) is up and running, the countdown has finished.

The game is based on the Dreamcast version. Online play, HD upscaling, widescreen support and custom sound tracks. Oh, and there's a demo out on PSN this week too.

More info at the Capcom Unity blog (http://www.capcom-unity.com/sven/blog/2009/04/27/wheres_yo_curleh_mustache_yes_mvc2_is_real).

[Xian042]

some more tidbits here:

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/976/976793p1.html


I"m pumped for this. I know its not the most technically respected Capcom brawler, but it was pure fanservice. I'm getting this for an intense geek-gasm!

[CosmicMonkey]

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9066/a5fffd925a1d940d347bed3.jpg

Turns out the PSN demo will be up this Thursday (30th) in the US and shortly after in Europe.

[Princess-Isabela]

it was bound to happen,
picking it first day it's available.

[Kitsune Sniper]

custom sound tracks

FUCKING THANK YOU

Now the game can have a PROPER soundtrack!

[Damaramu]

Hmm...doesn't look too shabby to me: http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/142/14269805/imgs_1.html

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9089/marvelvscapcomnextgenru.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelvscapcomnextgenru.jpg)

[heybtbm]

I still can't think of a reason that warrants picking this up again. My old Dreamcast version will do just fine.

Anyway, it's cool that Capcom and Marvel were able to work this out. I guess they both realized that releasing a XBLA/PSN version was basically like printing money.

[CosmicMonkey]

Hopefully Capcom and SNK can work together just as well to get Capcom vs SNK Pro or 2 released.

I'll be interested to see these graphical filters in action.

[Arcade_Ness]

I'm very tempted to pick this up, if only for online. I already have the game on my PS2 anyways. Too bad I don't have a PS2-PS3 controller converter for my custom arcade stick yet.

[The 1 2 P]

So 1200 Microsoft points($14.99) is the final price. Not bad considering thats only $5 more than what most people wanted this game to cost. I'm definitely picking it up.

[kupomogli]

Probably 14.99 for PSN as well then, right?

[ThoughtBomb]

This is really all I have to say at this point. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW6uQ8tt6_Y)

[CosmicMonkey]

There's some pictures of the different graphical filters over on the Capcom Unity blog (http://www.capcom-unity.com/jimmyrey/blog/2009/04/27/so_now_i_can_talk_about_the_gameits_mahvel_baby).

Joystiq have gone one better though, and made a lovely comparison image. I have to say, I think Capcom have done really well with the filters.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/04/strider0428092.jpg

[The 1 2 P]

Probably 14.99 for PSN as well then, right?

Most likely.....unless Sony wants to one up Microsoft.

[CosmicMonkey]

The reason this isn't coming to the Wii is because Capcom don't have the rights to sell the game at retail (download only) and the file size is waaaay too big for WiiWare.

[Poofta!]

http://www.tu4ar.com/

Potential MvC2 website? Oh well, we'll know in six days.

Source: Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/21/possible-marvel-vs-capcom-2-teaser-site-countdown/)

is it me or did ryu completely beat the shit out of wolverine in that trailer? make sense since its capcom's game hehe


Most likely.....unless Sony wants to one up Microsoft.

its up to capcom to decide the price. and while sony/MS have some influence to convince developers what to charge, it really only matters to no-name developers, who have no choice but to listen. there is no way in hell either company would dictate what capcom would charge for this particular game.

besides, if you think a 5$ difference in a downloadable game will convince someone to go out and spend 300-500$ for a different console.... well i have this handsome bridge here to sell you...



The reason this isn't coming to the Wii is because Capcom don't have the rights to sell the game at retail (download only) and the file size is waaaay too big for WiiWare.

this is a shame. i would gladly pay 30-35$ for a retail disk of this game.



my dilemma now is which version should i buy? 360 or ps3. i have the SFIV TE stick for 360, but somehow feel that the ps3 has longer shelf life in terms of downloadable content. i see my xbla games being useless once the servers go down. if i had a TE stick for ps3 i would switch over. i hear there will be a MvsC2 arcade stick coming out though, is this true? anyone have any word on this?

[Lothars]

Probably 14.99 for PSN as well then, right?

Correct, I will be buying this on both Xbox and PSN especially since my Dreamcast copy is missing, I suspect they w
ill be releasing this in either june or july.

I can't wait for this, I hope they also rerelease Marvel vs Capcom 1 as well.

[Damaramu]

In case no one posted these or what have you, here are gameplay clips (mandatory commercial before clip warning):

Clip 1 (http://g4tv.com/thepile/hdvideos/38035/Marvel-vs-Capcom-2-New-Age-of-Heroes-Gameplay-Clip-1.html)

Clip 2 (http://g4tv.com/thepile/hdvideos/38036/Marvel-vs-Capcom-2-New-Age-of-Heroes-Gameplay-Clip-2.html)

[Gabriel]

Tried the demo.

It looks a bit better than the PS2 version played through my PS3, but not a whole lot better.

Control doesn't feel as good on the demo as the PS2 version. In fact, neither I nor my friend could get the most basic Chun Li's lightning kick off short of turning turbo fire on.

Meh. It was about what I expected. The demo reminded that I don't find it all that great to begin with. I'm thinking I'll just stick with my PS2 disc. I'm not seeing much improvement, and online play for this one doesn't appeal to me.

[ubersaurus]

Tried the demo.

It looks a bit better than the PS2 version played through my PS3, but not a whole lot better.

Control doesn't feel as good on the demo as the PS2 version. In fact, neither I nor my friend could get the most basic Chun Li's lightning kick off short of turning turbo fire on.

Meh. It was about what I expected. The demo reminded that I don't find it all that great to begin with. I'm thinking I'll just stick with my PS2 disc. I'm not seeing much improvement, and online play for this one doesn't appeal to me.

That's about right, though. Chun li's lightning kicks were nearly impossible to get off in arcade/dreamcast marvel 2.

[Razo00]

Tried the demo.

It looks a bit better than the PS2 version played through my PS3, but not a whole lot better.

Control doesn't feel as good on the demo as the PS2 version. In fact, neither I nor my friend could get the most basic Chun Li's lightning kick off short of turning turbo fire on.

Meh. It was about what I expected. The demo reminded that I don't find it all that great to begin with. I'm thinking I'll just stick with my PS2 disc. I'm not seeing much improvement, and online play for this one doesn't appeal to me.

I was not to pleased with the demo myself, but give it time. I said the same thing about SSF2 Hd remix's beta and that turned out ok. Is it me or do the characters look smaller in hd?

[MarioMania]

Is Capcom paying Marvel or something..

I'm glad it's coming out :)

[The 1 2 P]

I really wish this was a time-exclusive demo but it doesn't look like thats going to happen:(

[kupomogli]

I don't usually pay for just data, but I'm having second thoughts. Maybe I might pick the game up. The main thing I remember about the game is that it has four buttons instead of six, which is pretty stupid. Why, and is it just the PS2 version(the only version I've played?)

Anyways, who's getting this for the PS3.

[ThoughtBomb]

Anyways, who's getting this for the PS3.

I dnl'd the demo and although it reminded me that this game is more about who can get a special off quicker/crazy explosive button mashing fights more than skill, I'm still gonna get it since I'm a fan and am not paying $75 for a disc that I can't play online.