View Full Version : Bloodiest Console War?
Gunstarhero
05-14-2003, 09:11 PM
So, where has the biggest battle been fought between game console manufacturers? Is it happening right now, or has it already taken place in the past? I'm gonna begin with systems after the crash, and on up, because I'm not sure pre-crash system wars were as intense. If you think something else, from the pre-crash era, should be added speak up.
edit: ok added the pre-crash rivalry upon request. Duke it out.
Raedon
05-14-2003, 09:38 PM
Genesis with Altered beast! SNES fires back with SMW, Genesis sends in the big guns with Sonic! SNES gets out the Zelda (booya!) Sega pulls out a double hitter Sequel of death with Phantasy Star 2 and Sonic 2! SNES says "F U" And everyone is playing a little Final Fantasy.
Some say Genesis because of MK blood and Gunstar Heros, some say SNES because it lived longer with the DKC series and had the good RPG's (still the bread and butter of the winning console even to this day)
Who knows, I think everyone came out a winner, some of the best games ever created came out of the neo-classical era of VG's.
IntvGene
05-14-2003, 10:01 PM
I'm gonna begin with systems after the crash, and on up, because I'm not sure pre-crash system wars were as intense.
Personally, I think the Atari vs. Coleco vs. Mattel days were just as bad as anything! There were lawsuits flying through the sky, and those 'Expansion' adapters for the Coleco and Intellivision to play 2600 games on their system... and don't forget the Coleco Gemini! That shit never happens anymore! I think the modern stuff is civil compared to that...
Gamereviewgod
05-14-2003, 10:08 PM
I would give anything for another war like Sega vs. Nintendo. So many gret games from that period and each one of them stemming from competition. Right out of the gate we had Final Fight vs. Streets of Rage. Things only got better from there...
Arqueologia_Digital
05-14-2003, 10:47 PM
Yeah, other vote for Sega Vs. Nintendo
MarkM2112
05-15-2003, 10:24 AM
NOTHING can beat the pre-crash war between Atari and Intellivision... NOTHING!!! Back then, they were actually showing head to head comparisons on TV and print ads, and actually bad mouthing the competition! In the other eras, you don't even hear the competition MENTIONED! Nothing was as cut-throat as that era!
Sylentwulf
05-15-2003, 10:45 AM
heh, looks like SNES vs. Genesis is the winner by a mile :) Although I don't think the TG-16 was prominent enough to be included in the war...
RetroYoungen
05-15-2003, 01:37 PM
Sega Does What Ninten-don't.
Nintendo Is What Genis-isn't.
Beautiful, ain't it?
Tally up another vote for SNES vs. Genesis vs. TG-16.
bargora
05-15-2003, 01:45 PM
NOTHING can beat the pre-crash war between Atari and Intellivision... NOTHING!!! Back then, they were actually showing head to head comparisons on TV and print ads, and actually bad mouthing the competition! In the other eras, you don't even hear the competition MENTIONED! Nothing was as cut-throat as that era!
Those were the days. I'd like to see Microsoft hire George Plimpton to do his cultured Englishman shtick on behalf of the Xbox against PS2, but end the commercial by crying out "0wned!"
ManekiNeko
05-15-2003, 01:47 PM
DEFINITELY Sega vs. Nintendo. Nintendo tried to ignore Sega at first, but it eventually got swept up into the mudslinging, publishing "advertorials" which tried to persuade players that system clock speed wasn't important and that all of the Super NES's advantages over the Genesis were. Sega started the fire by ridiculing all of Nintendo's products and claiming that only the Genesis had "blast processing", a bunch of hooey invented not by the designers of the system but by Sega's marketing team.
Of course, there was NEC too, with its Johnny Turbo ads that completely ignored Nintendo and went straight for Sega's throat. Of course, Sega just swatted them away like the pesky insects they were and continued to battle Nintendo for the title of top dog in the video game industry.
JR
Gunstarhero
05-15-2003, 05:23 PM
heh, looks like SNES vs. Genesis is the winner by a mile :) Although I don't think the TG-16 was prominent enough to be included in the war...
I debated that in my mind for a little bit, because I tend to agree with you about the TG-16. However, I felt that someone would surely ask 'why isn't TG-16 on here???" While it was never really a contender here in the states, it did manage to hang around for a few years, atleast until the SNES finally pushed it out completely.
Gunstarhero
05-15-2003, 05:27 PM
Cool, someone voted 3DO vs. Jaguar. I think this is the battle that everyone missed because they didn't really care about it. I don't remember this one getting personal between the two companies though, unlike Sega and Nintendo. Was there a clear cut winner in the 3DO/Jaguar war? Or did both machines fail equally bad?
NE146
05-15-2003, 05:47 PM
I think it should be
2600 vs. Intellivision
-AND-
5200 vs. Colecovision
To me the 5200 one was the bloodiest since that's when I last gave a sh*t ;) (I wanted my 5200 to "win" :P)
anagrama
05-15-2003, 06:34 PM
I'd say the bloodiest is the current PS2/Xbox/Gamecube tussle, purely because of the ever increasing mainstream penetration of videogaming culture, post-Playstation, with more and more money and interests invested than ever before, means that the stakes, and potential losses involved are larger than they ever have been.
However my 'favourite' console war is naturally the Megadrive/SNES 16 bit days, largely because it the only time the principal combatants were on something like an even keel, meaning that the prime victor was the consumer, who witnessed many of the finest videogaming moments ever committed to silicon. Or something.
lionforce
05-15-2003, 07:08 PM
I had to vote for SNES vs Genesis vs TG16 because I wasn't old enough to remember any console wars before Sega vs Nintendo (I was running around in pampers during the atari days), however I have read about those early wars and it seems like the fists did fly. But Sega vs Nintendo got very bad too, the NES dominated, Sega unleashed the Genesis to dominate the NES and Nintendo released the SNES to dominate the Genesis, those two companies fought alot of rounds, ding ding @_@
swlovinist
05-15-2003, 07:09 PM
Ahh....the 16 bit console war has to be the most remembered battle between systems....It was a time when Sega and Nintendo were dishing out great deals to the customers. Lets not forget that the TG-16(although a distant third) was giving a system out for under 50.00!!!!! Now days, although the console war is still fierce, there is no conflict. The playstation, you cannot deny is CRUSHING the competition. Microsoft has proven this with their recent financial statements of loss. Nintendo, although I respect their system, is not doing as well as they want to. Both are struggling to get the 25% of the market while playstation is dominating the market 3 to 1. I think that Gamecube has stepped up to the plate by giving a pack in free with purchase........The pack ins for both Xbox and PS2 can be alot more agressive. Xbox is losing their butt and PS2 doensnt really have to have a pack in
hezeuschrist
05-15-2003, 10:16 PM
PS2 doesn't need a pack in, I can't imagine how many homes in the states don't have a PS2. It's everywhere. They had a solid year over the competition to get a solid foothold of the market, and not only was it solid it was absolute.
SNES vs. Genesis... golden age of gaming, no doubt. When i look back, I hated Genesis. Well, I still do, but it forced some excellent titles by Nintendo which I am very thankful for. Even today with Genesis being so cheap I can't find a reason to get one. If I got one for free I wouldn't know where to store it.
Neonsolid
09-24-2004, 08:52 PM
Gone.
Wavelflack
09-24-2004, 09:45 PM
Sure the systems could. Every Sega system I've purchased fulfilled my expectations. I can't recall an instance of getting home with one and going "Eh.."
If you're looking for dashed expectations, look to Nintendo and Sony consumers. 66 Million PPS? (PS2) Movie quality graphics, "thanks to SGI technology" ("The same company responsible for Jurassic Park!")--N64
Etc.
Strangely enough, the consumers didn't care. Smells like Kryptonite Fog.
Definetly Sega vs. Nintendo. Don't forget Sega was battling on all front. They were even fighting them on the handheld front, trying to prove the Game Gear was superior to the Game Boy because of the color screen.
Neonsolid
09-25-2004, 01:13 AM
Gone.
Wavelflack
09-25-2004, 01:41 AM
And wasn't it? I don't care about battery life (I have a Lynx). Look at all other factors.
Phosphor Dot Fossils
09-25-2004, 10:19 AM
Atari 5200 vs. EveryOneElseWhoWasComingOutWithAModuleThatCouldPla yAtari2600Games. Easy!
Do you guys remember these commercials? Atari was slamming ITSELF! Now that's vicious. LOL
For example, they'd show shots of the by-then-widely-accepted-to-be-subpar 2600 Pac-Man and say "This is Pac-Man on the Colecovision/Intellivision system changer." Switch to 5200 Pac-Man: "But THIS is Pac-Man on the new Atari 5200!" Cut to shots of actors portraying awed consumers!
How crazy is that? They were going off on their own products. NOW you're playing with power - the power of marketing insanity! LOL
Predatorxs
09-25-2004, 12:19 PM
heh, looks like SNES vs. Genesis is the winner by a mile :) Although I don't think the TG-16 was prominent enough to be included in the war...
ditto! TG-16?... it was purely! Sega Vs. Nintendo...
Nintendo won!! dammit!
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suppafly
09-25-2004, 01:15 PM
heh, looks like SNES vs. Genesis is the winner by a mile :) Although I don't think the TG-16 was prominent enough to be included in the war...
I second that
Famidrive-16
09-25-2004, 02:30 PM
Cool, someone voted 3DO vs. Jaguar. I think this is the battle that everyone missed because they didn't really care about it. I don't remember this one getting personal between the two companies though, unlike Sega and Nintendo. Was there a clear cut winner in the 3DO/Jaguar war? Or did both machines fail equally bad?
I guess it depends which one sold more. Although I just remember the whole 94-96 years in a blur with all the dozens of compeiting consoles just going at each other like crazy. Course I was younger then so what do i know, excpet for my old magazines.
It was also pretty ferocious with the N64 and PSX. You'd have a lot more games with the playstation but you'd have Goldeneye and Diddy Kong Racing with the 64. whoo-wee.
VG_Maniac
07-29-2005, 02:30 AM
Super NES vs Sega Genesis. Man, what a battle that was. I was such a Nintendo fanboy back then...and Sega always made me so mad with their commercials that bashed the SNES. :angry: It's so funny to think about those days when Nintendo and Sega were worst enemies...and now Sega makes games for Nintendo. I was just reading my most recent issue of Nintendo Power the other day...and it had an article on the upcoming Shadow the Hedgehog game as well as the Sonic Gems Collection. I was thinking how weird it is to see Sega stuff in a Nintendo magazine after all those years of this: :2gunfire: :rockets:
Jumpman Jr.
07-29-2005, 08:59 AM
SNES vs. Genesis, no doubt about it.
Although I don't think the TurboGrafx was really putting up much of a fight against the two.
It seemed as though (during the times that these consoles were new), you could label your friends as "SNES lovers" or "Genesis lovers."
I loved the SNES, my best friend loved the Genesis. I liked the Genesis and he liked the SNES, but we wouldn't buy them. So, if I wanted to play the Genesis, I'd have to go to his house.