Sonic for the master system US

[asbury6647]

Need your alls help. Did this come out for master system in the US? I cant find any box art on it at all.

[Valhalla]

Yeah, i beleive it did, but as far as I know the only difference between the US and Euro packaging is a sticker on the US version.

[asbury6647]

I just cant find it anywhere. Where the other games like that, that only had a US sticker on it?

[darkslime]

Yeah, there were other games like that.

You probably can't find it because it goes for a couple hundred dollars.

[zektor]

Sonic and Buster Douglas are the two hardest titles to find (USA) in my opinion. If you keep looking you will find them however. Not for "hundreds", but more like in the hundred dollar range. Alternately, you can pick up the European version of the same SMS game for a few bucks and it will work just fine on your USA SMS console. Same game too...

[swlovinist]

Sonic with the UPC sticker can fetch quite a price complete. Price can very widely, pending on who is going for it. It is near impossible to find. I would personally value the Sonic title at least a couple hundred dollars. Spiderman and Strider are also some games that had the UPC sticker on the back, the only thing that was the difference between the US and UK counterpart. Expect if you ever see one on ebay to have several people bidding on it due to it being so scarce.

[otoko]

Kinda off topic, but isn't it similar to the Game Gear Sonic?

/donotknowbutinquizitive

[swlovinist]

yep, I do believe so

[tomaitheous]

I had a Fist of the North Star game like that for NES. I never took it apart though.

[Press_Start]

Interesting....but something still bothers me. If the only difference between the American and UK covers is the UPC sticker, then the UK box should be blank where the UPC would be? :?

If not, can anyone post pictures or link to a website showing the contrast between these two, just to clarify what going on.

[Blitzwing256]

theres just a very basic upc sticker over the normal upc barcode from the euro-version

[northern_gooner]

I may not be 100% on this but IFRC US MS games had SEGA from Tonka on the back (example http://www.smspower.org/scans/sms/shinobi/both/4?c3lzdGVtPXNtcyZwYXRoPXMvc2hpbm9iaS1ib3RoNC5qcGcm dHlwZT1Cb3RoJndpZHRoPTEwMDAmaGVpZ2h0PTYzMiZzaXplPT E5MyZjb250cmlidXRvcj1Ob3AlMjdzJmNvdW50cnk9dXM=)
Euro versions had Just the Sega logo (example http://www.smspower.org/scans/sms/sonicthehedgehog/both/1?c3lzdGVtPXNtcyZwYXRoPXMvc29uaWN0aGVoZWRnZWhvZy1i b3RoMS5qcGcmdHlwZT1Cb3RoJndpZHRoPTEwMDAmaGVpZ2h0PT YzNiZzaXplPTE5NyZjb250cmlidXRvcj1Ob3AlMjdzJmNvdW50 cnk9dWU=)
This is a link to the site its great for all MS info :
http://www.smspower.org/scans/

[s1lence]

Actually, I believe that the cases are exactly the same. The ONLY difference is the UPC sticker. Probably one of the reasons why many SMS collectors consider the EU Sonic good enough.

[asbury6647]

that shows this different UPC code. On whichever games had a different one. So i can see how the UPC is different on the US versions. Thanks again for everones help.

[Yukio]

Actually, there could be a difference between PAL and NTSC game ROMs. If the scroll is not smooth on a NTSC system, the cartridge probably is for a PAL market ... Not sure about the Sonic cartridge and yes, the game is similar to the SEGA Game Gear one. One thing that is missing from most Sonic games on the SEGA Master System is the SEGA voice, the inertia effect is on the Game Gear (the games are a little harder to play). One thing that is better on the SEGA Game Gear is the demo play that has more than just one stage.

[s1lence]

i haven't noticed that with my PAL carts, since the SMS is region free.

[Yukio]

The SEGA Master System was never region free. The Japanese SEGA Master System/Mark III games used a different size for the cartridges. Most games that were released on America and Europe (along other places) could be "free" exchanged, but some games and music went out of sync because of the different clock cycles. The game play and music could be different too ...

[Yukio]

Did you noticed something weird on the bridge stage? The one with continuous scroll !? The stage with the very nice music!!!

That stage went out of sync ...
Did you noticed that some stages had some problems when you ran? Like a stop in the action.

Other titles.
Some games that were not produced by SEGA are not compatible with early SEGA Master System units. The first batch was reported to be unable to use some tricks or even some "full screen" games. There are even some games that are country locked.
The Master System on the United States was reported to be incompatible with cartridges above 4 megabit (Sonic Blast has 8 megabit).The early editions of the SEGA Master System BIOS has a limit on the megabit counter. Some people even got some ads from the system.

[Press_Start]

I may not be 100% on this but IFRC US MS games had SEGA from Tonka on the back (example http://www.smspower.org/scans/sms/shinobi/both/4?c3lzdGVtPXNtcyZwYXRoPXMvc2hpbm9iaS1ib3RoNC5qcGcm dHlwZT1Cb3RoJndpZHRoPTEwMDAmaGVpZ2h0PTYzMiZzaXplPT E5MyZjb250cmlidXRvcj1Ob3AlMjdzJmNvdW50cnk9dXM=)
Euro versions had Just the Sega logo (example http://www.smspower.org/scans/sms/sonicthehedgehog/both/1?c3lzdGVtPXNtcyZwYXRoPXMvc29uaWN0aGVoZWRnZWhvZy1i b3RoMS5qcGcmdHlwZT1Cb3RoJndpZHRoPTEwMDAmaGVpZ2h0PT YzNiZzaXplPTE5NyZjb250cmlidXRvcj1Ob3AlMjdzJmNvdW50 cnk9dWU=)
This is a link to the site its great for all MS info :
http://www.smspower.org/scans/

Thank you. :)

[alexkidd2000]

The euro games are not PAL. In Canada, which is NTSC just like USA, we had the euro games for the entire life of the SMS. This is also why we had alot of games released at the end of SMS that did not come out in USA.

[alexkidd2000]

Thank you. :)

Man you know what would be super hard to complete is an official Canadian collection. That scan you have a link of, Shinobi, was the release here in Canada. It is a USA release because it only has english. The thing is, alot of the Canadian releases have the multi language Euro box art. Also, we never had ANY blue label SMS carts. So it seems like Canada got a mix of USA and Euro releases. We definitely had games that never came to retail in USA like Cyber Shinobi, Battle Outrun off the top of my head.

[megasdkirby]

Sonic and Buster Douglas are the two hardest titles to find (USA) in my opinion. If you keep looking you will find them however. Not for "hundreds", but more like in the hundred dollar range. Alternately, you can pick up the European version of the same SMS game for a few bucks and it will work just fine on your USA SMS console. Same game too...

Yes, both are the hardest games to find. Right now, I am only missing Sonic (w/UPC) and Spiderman (w/UPC).

To be perfectly honest, I am only interested in the box and insert. Since it's basically the same UK game, I can just switch carts around if I need to do so. But if I can find them with at least the cart, then I can take the UK manual.

But I hate paying high amounts for a simply UPC sticker. It's insane...alas, necessary to do if one wants to obtain a complete US set.

Ironically, I will be posting a copy of James Buster Douglas for sale soon. It's a spare I have, since I obtained one recently from a very awesome guy.

Another game I found tediously hard to find (complete) was Power Strike. I lucked out but it was a pain. Will also sell my spare game (without manual) for sale soon.

Thanks to Scrimble, I was able to pindown which games have UPC stickers:

Golden Axe Warrior
Strider
Spiderman
Sonic

They are all the UK editions, just with a little UPC sticker in the back.

In Sonic's case, one will have to pay plenty of $$$ on a UPC sticker... :(

[Yukio]

They are all the UK editions, just with a little UPC sticker in the back.

In Sonic's case, one will have to pay plenty of $$$ on a UPC sticker... :(


Yes, some people really loves the (*FREE*!?) stickers !!!

[northern_gooner]

Yes, both are the hardest games to find. Right now, I am only missing Sonic (w/UPC) and Spiderman (w/UPC).

Ironically, I will be posting a copy of James Buster Douglas for sale soon. It's a spare I have, since I obtained one recently from a very awesome guy.

:(

When your ready to post this can you give me a shout. I am still after this game. Let me know what your after for it & we can go from there.

P.S. I'm in the UK btw

[megasdkirby]

When your ready to post this can you give me a shout. I am still after this game. Let me know what your after for it & we can go from there.

P.S. I'm in the UK btw

No problem.

It will be in the next few days. Just waiting to have a free day from work so I can prepare everything (like take pictures, host them, have cake, etc). :)

[MarioMania]

I don't get it alot of collecters go nuts with Sonic with the UPC Code

it just a fucking sticker

[megasdkirby]

I don't get it alot of collecters go nuts with Sonic with the UPC Code

it just a fucking sticker

Agreed.

But alas, if you are searching for a complete US set, it has to be done... :(