New Sega Genesis collection for 360/PS3

[G-Boobie]

fucks yeah
cant wait 4 dat shit

We missed you, hbkprm!!!

[shopkins]

That's because today was the ship date. Most stores do not get games on the ship date, unless they specifically go to the airport and pick them up. It'll be in stores everywhere tomorrow.

Yep, that's what the Gamestop guy told me, too.

[8-bitNesMan]

so what's the verdict? Worth the 30 clams? One version better than the other?

[FxMercenary]

i just picked it up at best buy! $29.99

[titanzguard]

Hope my Best Buy has it. I am stopping tonight on the way home from work. Ill let you know what I think once I get it.

[FxMercenary]

they still had them in the little work cart, werent even on the shelf yet lol. SNAG!

[MegaDrive20XX]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/Akumajo22/digitpress.jpg

So happy to get it, yet it dawns on me when I got in the car. Thank God I'm not a collector of sealed games! GameStop is crazier with stickers than an 8 year old girl with a notebook! If you happen to be a collector of sealed games, you already know that GameStop is not the best place to buy games.

Ah who cares! I'm playing the crap out this badboy!

[shopkins]

I've been playing the 360 version a bit and like it so far. I'm no expert on emulation but things look fine to me, although I did notice what looked like a half-second graphics glitch in the first level of Comiczone.

The upscaling looks pretty decent on my HDTV. The colors, especially, just pop beautifully. It's not perfectly as crisp with every pixel razor sharp as I would like but it looks alright if you are at a proper viewing distance from your TV. The lack of perfect sharpness is more noticeable on the Master System titles for some reason. I haven't tried it on an SDTV yet.

The smoothing filter, however, is completely useless. It's just ugly and it smooths way too much, so much so that it actually erases details from the backgrounds and the character's faces. There is no unstretched widescreen in here, either. Everything is bordered in the square mode. I can see people playing it in the 16:9 mode anyway, though, considering how often I see people watch 4:3 content stretched on HDTVs.

The borders are actually a little too excessive. You can adjust the screen and give yourself a bigger picture but you kind of have to guess at the correct aspect ratio. I would prefer if they had let me drag a corner and keep it proportional.

The games that I played seemed to play fine. I didn't really have any trouble pulling off any moves. The unlockables aren't that hard to get, either. I thought I was going to have trouble unlocking Phantasy Star because that requires beating the first boss of Sonic 2 with two players, but all that means in practice is plugging another controller in, running to Eggman and then, sometime during the fight, pushing any button on the second controller to make Tails jump or do something. Only one button press is required.

It was really neat to play the arcade Shinobi again. I've played in the arcade, but most of my access to it has been ports. It's interesting but very challenging. Super easy to unlock, too. All you have to do is beat the first level (play up to the horse level) of Shinobi III without continuing.

The other bonus features are a bunch of interviews with developers and I may be wrong about this, but they look like the same ones from the Sega Genesis Collection on PS2.

No, it's not as good as having all the carts, but it's more convenient and it includes the arcade games. I think it's worth the 30 bucks.

Oh, getting it wasn't easy. My boss let us out of work early because there was a bad storm coming, but the sky didn't look that bad to me so I figured I could pop over to Gamestop and get back in time before it hit. Big mistake. When I was in Gamestop the power blinked out for a second just as they were running my debit card. I had to wait several minutes for their computers to restart and in that time the storm hit with full force. I stayed in the store for a while but eventually I saw a lull in the sheeting, sideways wind and rain and tried to make it to my car, but before I could get there the wind picked up again so hard it bent my umbrella out of shape. I got in my car and sat there as the wind buffeted it. Then I drove home and noticed all the downed trees, ruined garages, a street sign that had been uprooted, storage sheds that were destroyed and other damage from the storm. All in all deciding I could beat the storm was not the best decision.

[Animaniac]

Got it at Gamestop today. May have been the last pre-order copy.

Haven't played it yet though. Will do so very very soon.

[Nionel]

GameStop is crazier with stickers than an 8 year old girl with a notebook! If you happen to be a collector of sealed games, you already know that GameStop is not the best place to buy games.

Be glad you aren't buying used, I'm not sure if it's just my local GameStop, they place a sticker on the spine, but instead of putting in on top of the case they put it on the cover art, I about cried the last time I bought something from them.

Anyway, on topic, I can't wait to get this. Sounds like it's gonna be great, thanks for that big post Shopkins, I was curious about how the games would look on an HDTV and how the emulation was.

[heybtbm]

This game is worth it for the arcade version of Shinobi alone.

I haven't played Shinobi in 20 years, but it's just as awesome as I remember. I don't even want to guess on how many quarters I spent on that game back in the day. I can't wait to hook up my new HRAP - EX.

The rest of the games I've played all control great. Not a big fan on the tiny playable screen w/borders, but I guess that's just the reality of playing retro games on a widescreen LCD.

[shopkins]

I've been playing it some more and I have to say the unlockables really add to the package. I had no idea there were so many levels in Space Harrier. The only home version of the arcade version I have was in one of the Shenmue games and I could never figure out how to continue in that. It's definitely not the kind of game someone of my dexterity level has any hope of one-crediting. But this version has continues and I played it all the way to the end.

I unlocked Altered Beast arcade and beat that too. That's a total quarter muncher, at least for me. I had to continue dozens of times. I tried three times and failed to unlock Alien Syndrome, though. You're supposed to get to level three of Alien Storm on one life and I'm just not that good at it. Couldn't even do it on easy mode, although I'll take another crack at it some time because I want to play Arcade Alien Syndrome. The Tengen NES version was one of the games I owned as a kid and I enjoyed it.

I noticed on more momentary graphical glitch while I was playing Sonic the Hedgehog.

[Sonicwolf]

It really grinds my gears that they slap Sonic onto the cover and in the title of this game. I mean, its just a tactic to get sonic fanboys to spam purchase. Its not a Sonic only collection but they still try to display it as such.

[maxlords]

Did anyone get the PS3 version of this? I haven't been able to decide which to get....wanted to know if they're essentially identical or not.

[Sudo]

Did anyone get the PS3 version of this? I haven't been able to decide which to get....wanted to know if they're essentially identical or not.

I haven't played it yet myself, but I've seen people on other boards say the PS3 version is fine. I couldn't see myself playing the 360 version with that horrible D-pad, anyway.

[backguard]

This is one of the best compilations to come along in years. Awesome selection, very well put together, and a smoothing feature that is one of the best I've ever seen. Highly recommended pickup!

[incubus421]

seconded!

[bb_hood]

What system is this for?

[DigitalSpace]

It really grinds my gears that they slap Sonic onto the cover and in the title of this game. I mean, its just a tactic to get sonic fanboys to spam purchase. Its not a Sonic only collection but they still try to display it as such.

Love it or hate it, Sonic's been the mascot of Sega for a long time, and therefore, their most recognizable character. I wouldn't have removed Sonic from the cover, but I would have added a few of Sega's other well-known characters.

[DigitalSpace]

What system is this for?

The 360 and PS3.

Also, there's already a thread about the compilation in progress:
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124166

[Nionel]

Maybe they figured that the game would sell better to the North American audiences with the Sonic branding on the cover because the Sega consoles, at least the Master System, wasn't as popular here in the states as they were in Europe.

Edit: I do think that Europe, in one of those rare occasions, actually got the better box art on this one...

http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/360/24085_sega_megadrive_ultimate_collection.png

[Emuaust]

Maybe they figured that the game would sell better to the North American audiences with the Sonic branding on the cover because the Sega consoles, at least the Master System, wasn't as popular here in the states as they were in Europe.

Edit: I do think that Europe, in one of those rare occasions, actually got the better box art on this one...

http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/360/24085_sega_megadrive_ultimate_collection.png

Awesome I love that quote on the back cover, happy to be a pal gamer I am.

[MrRoboto19XX]

I've really been happy with my purchase thusfar, the selection of games is great. If you look at it, this is a really great selection of some serious gems (Worth the $30 price tag alone is the four Phantasy Stars and two Shining Forces).

However, there are a few here that I hadn't played in some time, and a few that I hadn't at all. These games have given me the best thought processes:

Columns - Was this game ever good? I remember it not seeming that bad back in the Genesis' heyday, and I remember it seeming terrible when the Smashpack came out back in 2000 or so. Now, I attributed the terribleness to the Smashpack's terrible emulation, but I seemed to not realize the root of the problem: The gameplay. I'm sorry, but this just isn't on par with your average "stuff falling into a well" puzzle game. Sure, it's nice when you get a combo going, but in the end it's not as refined as a Tetris, and not as frantic as Puyo-Puyo (or for the sake of this collection, Mean Bean Machine). This achievement will provide a challenge for me partially because I suck at the game, and mainly because of the disdain I seem to have grown for it.

Decap Attack - I don't remember this game at all, but it's not that bad, the thing that sticks to me is it doesn't feel at all like a Sega game. To me, this feels a lot like an early Turbografx game, and for some reason the comparison I keep drawing is of all things J.J. and Jeff. Anyone else feel like this?

E-Swat - When I was a kid, I played this on a friends Master System, and back when I started collecting, this was one of the first harder to find songs I found - much to my dismay, it didn't age well at all. The Genesis version actually seems less arcade-y than its Master System cousin, and more tedious. Can anyone tell me how this stacks up against the arcade version?

and lastly...

Sonic Spinball - Until tonight, I had only played this game once, at the Sears Funtronics when it first came out. I remember it being awesome, and in the following years remember people bashing it relentlessly saying how much it sucked. Well, having played it now I have this much to say - it's not that bad. It's a decent attempt at a pinball game even with a mascot sort of shoehorned in, while it doesn't work as naturally as Kirby's Pinball Land, I think it's a pretty decent game.

Wow, I went on there for a bit, that's memory lane for you I guess. I hadn't played a lot of these games in a long time, mainly due to my not having a Genesis during its heyday, and my refusal to buy Genesis games without their cases. In short, I'm more than happy with my purchase.

Also, it's always nice to get achievements from some classics, instead of these newfangled games these kids play these days!:smash:

[alexkidd2000]

No Toe Jam and Earl really dapens my party. Would have loved some shumps as well.

And no Wonder Boy love is sad. The monsterland game on Genesis is classic. Also a translated number 5 would have been a sweet bonus!

[exit]

Picked this up at Gamestop today and played it for a couple of hours, it was well worth the $30 price tag. Having all the Phantasy Star, Streets of Rage and Shining Force games is really going to keep me busy.

I like how you're able to rate the games, it seems kind of useless, but I guess it would come in hand for quicker access to your favorite games when you change the sort options. Switching some games to 16:9 and messing with the screen a bit helps with some games, but others it doesnt work too well for.

I was kind of disappointed that they had the Arcade Shinobi instead of the SMS version, the same goes for Alien Syndrome (Alien Storm sucks), it would've been nice if they added both versions to the collection just for comparison sakes. Having the Alex Kidd games (or at least Miracle World) in the collection would've been nice as well, Quartet and maybe even the built in SMS maze game would've been nice little additions as well. I guess I can't be too picky, maybe they'll add them in via download content, but that's highly unlikely.

[Drag0nsfyre]

I picked it up too. I have not checked it out though. I think the SFIV gamepad that I preorderd will come in reall handy with this though since I opted to get the 360 version.
Well worth the price indeed as many of you had said. You know if they were to release these all individually on XBL or PSN they would probably charge $10 a pop.

[8-bitNesMan]

I picked it up too. I have not checked it out though. I think the SFIV gamepad that I preorderd will come in reall handy with this though since I opted to get the 360 version.
Well worth the price indeed as many of you had said. You know if they were to release these all individually on XBL or PSN they would probably charge $10 a pop.

Well if previous history is any indication then they would most likely be $5 a pop but that still makes this a good deal. I picked mine up after work yesterday but didn't get a chance to play yet. Let me know how that SFIV pad works for you, I may have to pick one up myself. I'm just happy because I lost Sonic and Streets of Rage 2 due to the loathsome DRM when I transferred all my arcade titles to a new 360. If not for this, it would have been a while before I could have played them again! I'm going to go home and play after work and I will post what I think about it.

[shopkins]

Decap Attack - I don't remember this game at all, but it's not that bad, the thing that sticks to me is it doesn't feel at all like a Sega game. To me, this feels a lot like an early Turbografx game, and for some reason the comparison I keep drawing is of all things J.J. and Jeff. Anyone else feel like this?


Decap Attack is a reworked for American and European audiences version of Magical Hat's Flying Turbo Adventure for the Megadrive, which is the spiritual sequel to the Master System game Psycho Fox. That might be part of why it feels weird to you.

[Drag0nsfyre]

8-BitNesMan:
I think my SFIV pas is "supposed" to be coming around the end of the month ( I have to double check that) so I'll have to wait a bit to check it out. I'll post my impressions though when It finally arrives. :) I may grab a 2'nd one if I run across one at Gamestop if they happen to get some in earlier.

[Mason P.]

Be glad you aren't buying used, I'm not sure if it's just my local GameStop, they place a sticker on the spine, but instead of putting in on top of the case they put it on the cover art, I about cried the last time I bought something from them.


I have talked to the managers at my local Gamestops and asked them to leave the paper backing on the sticker so it doesn't damage the insert. I told them it achieves both goals. You have a protected sticker that won't peel off as easy and it isn't stuck to the paper. It is a win for both people. All the Managers said they will tell their staff to do it the way i suggested. :)

[Neil Koch]

E-Swat - When I was a kid, I played this on a friends Master System, and back when I started collecting, this was one of the first harder to find songs I found - much to my dismay, it didn't age well at all. The Genesis version actually seems less arcade-y than its Master System cousin, and more tedious. Can anyone tell me how this stacks up against the arcade version?


The Genesis and arcade versions are quite different. The arcade version is more of a straight forward action game (kind of like the Robocop arcade game) and the Genesis version is more of a traditional action/platforming game. The Genesis version is a slow burn to be sure, especially the first two levels where you don't have the robot suit. But if you can stick with the game, it gets quite fun (and tough) as you get further into the game.

[Neil Koch]

I unlocked Altered Beast arcade and beat that too. That's a total quarter muncher, at least for me. I had to continue dozens of times. I tried three times and failed to unlock Alien Syndrome, though. You're supposed to get to level three of Alien Storm on one life and I'm just not that good at it. Couldn't even do it on easy mode, although I'll take another crack at it some time because I want to play Arcade Alien Syndrome. The Tengen NES version was one of the games I owned as a kid and I enjoyed it.


Getting to Mission 3 of Alien Storm isn't hard, I did it my first time playing it. You can set the buttons to rapid fire. Just go a bit slow so you're only fighting 3 aliens max at once and make sure to stand a bit back from them.

How did you get 100,000 points on the first level of Altered Beast? I just played through on Hardest, killed most of the enemies through 3 passes of the stage and still only got 50K.

I like the collection so far, but I wish there was a way just to have black borders in 4:3 mode. The designs look garish and are a bit distracting.

BTW, if you're a trophy/achievement whore, there are lots of them in here and most of them look pretty easy to get.

[shopkins]

Getting to Mission 3 of Alien Storm isn't hard, I did it my first time playing it. You can set the buttons to rapid fire. Just go a bit slow so you're only fighting 3 aliens max at once and make sure to stand a bit back from them.

How did you get 100,000 points on the first level of Altered Beast? I just played through on Hardest, killed most of the enemies through 3 passes of the stage and still only got 50K.

I like the collection so far, but I wish there was a way just to have black borders in 4:3 mode. The designs look garish and are a bit distracting.

BTW, if you're a trophy/achievement whore, there are lots of them in here and most of them look pretty easy to get.

I think you have to beat the boss as the Werewolf. That's what I did anyway and it basically gave me the 100,000 points.

[c0ldb33r]

How did you get 100,000 points on the first level of Altered Beast? I just played through on Hardest, killed most of the enemies through 3 passes of the stage and still only got 50K.
Just become the wolf as quickly as possible. Don't worry about defeating the enemies. If you can get to and beat the boss the first time around then you get a 100,000 bonus.

[shopkins]

I guess that's what I did. I thought the first level was kinda short.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Picked up a copy for PS3 today.

Worth the price of admission for the arcade version of Congo Bongo alone!!

[Neil Koch]

Just become the wolf as quickly as possible. Don't worry about defeating the enemies. If you can get to and beat the boss the first time around then you get a 100,000 bonus.

Thanks man! Always knew I could trust a guy with beer in his name and Ron Jermemy in his avatar to come through with the goods :b


I guess that's what I did. I thought the first level was kinda short.

If you're not in beast form when you meet Neff, the level will continue on until you see him for a third time, at which point you'll have to fight the boss no matter what form you're in. I used to play the game so much -- for a while when it was my only Genny game due to it being the pack-in and me being a fan of the arcade version -- that I would go through the whole game intentionally not getting the power up balls in order to make the levels go longer.


Picked up a copy for PS3 today.

Worth the price of admission for the arcade version of Congo Bongo alone!!

Congo Bongo is damn addicting. I never really played it back in the day, but I had a fun time with it tonight (BTW how random is it that Streets of Rage unlocks it - did some of the same people work on both games?). I think it'd make a great downloadable game with new graphics, online play, and whatnot.

[Graham Mitchell]

i preordered a copy from bestbuy.com. it hasn't arrived yet, and i just got an e-mail saying it's backordered. I'm rather surprised since I didn't expect this to sell out really quickly. And the annoying thing is that I could probably walk into the store tomorrow and just pick it up. Lame.

[8-bitNesMan]

I'm digging it so far. Played it for a little while last nite before I got sleepy and my initial impression is that is one of the better done compilations I have seen thus far. I love the 16:9 mode on my HDTV but as stated above the smoothing is hit or miss. It works wonders on some games but some are better with their original textures intact. I haven't got any achievements or unlocked any bonus games yet but with the weekend here I know what I'll be playing :)

[Solertia]

Glad I saw this thread! Almost forgot when it came out! Thanks for the reminder, just ordered myself a copy!

[c0ldb33r]

I haven't got any achievements or unlocked any bonus games yet but with the weekend here I know what I'll be playing :)
I'm surprised how easy some of them are. Ecco the dolphin, you get an achievement for talking to another dolphin? wtf? that literally can be done in a few seconds. Actually, now that I think about it I'm happy that the Ecco one is so easy. I hate that dolphin. I'm also surprised that some games don't have achievements. AFAIK Streets of Rage 2 doesn't have an achievement.

One thing I don't know is how to get Sonic & Knuckles to act as if another Sonic game is inserted into it. I didn't really spend a lot of time trying to figure it out, but it didn't jump at me. Surely they've made it so it can lock on. That's the whole point of that game!

[demen999]

Damn this is alot of game for 30 bucks. I hope it doesnt have some filter for hd. Wonder what work went into upconverting them?

[ButtonMasher123]

This game is great and all, but I'm kind of pissed about the achievments. I mean this is freakin ridiculous how easy this stuff is. Talk to a dolphin in Ecco, get one chaos emerald in Sonic, obtain the maniaxe mask in Kid Chameleon, wtf is up with that.

Its kind of ironic that the Genesis was known for being a hardcore gamers system back in the day and yet this collection has the easiest achievments seen yet in a 360 game. I guess what gets to me most is there are no achievements except the Mean Bean machine one that require you to acually beat the game. Most of the achievements can be had by just playing one game for more than 10 minutes.

Ranting aside though, this is still the greatest classic gaming collection to ever come out on any system and for that I love it. I'm loving Shinobi Arcade right now, that game rocks.

[Wolfrider31]

This game is great and all, but I'm kind of pissed about the achievments. I mean this is freakin ridiculous how easy this stuff is. Talk to a dolphin in Ecco, get one chaos emerald in Sonic, obtain the maniaxe mask in Kid Chameleon, wtf is up with that.

Its kind of ironic that the Genesis was known for being a hardcore gamers system back in the day and yet this collection has the easiest achievments seen yet in a 360 game. I guess what gets to me most is there are no achievements except the Mean Bean machine one that require you to acually beat the game. Most of the achievements can be had by just playing one game for more than 10 minutes.

Ranting aside though, this is still the greatest classic gaming collection to ever come out on any system and for that I love it. I'm loving Shinobi Arcade right now, that game rocks.

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you on this one. I liked that the unlockables were so easy to get - I hate it when extra content like interviews can't be accessed from the get go - but the achievements themselves are so simple. Beating the first stage in Shinobi III without using a continue? Even without losing a life would be easy but they practically gift-wrapped those 30 points.

[ButtonMasher123]

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you on this one. I liked that the unlockables were so easy to get - I hate it when extra content like interviews can't be accessed from the get go - but the achievements themselves are so simple. Beating the first stage in Shinobi III without using a continue? Even without losing a life would be easy but they practically gift-wrapped those 30 points.

Yeah the Shinobi III achievement was real easy too, but at least it meant I could play Shinobi Arcade right away :)

[skaar]

You can also use save states, which makes most of the achievements about "not dying" pretty well pointless.

I apparently suck ass at Columns though. Didn't get my 40k points on Easy yet.

Also, has Mean Bean machine always been such a bitch? It's just... Mean!

[FxMercenary]

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you on this one. I liked that the unlockables were so easy to get - I hate it when extra content like interviews can't be accessed from the get go - but the achievements themselves are so simple. Beating the first stage in Shinobi III without using a continue? Even without losing a life would be easy but they practically gift-wrapped those 30 points.

i unlocked everything last night lol, easy gamer points combined with a good collection and a low price? This should sell pretty well!

[Nesmaster]

The achievements themselves are really easy, it's a shame they didn't load each game with "in-game" achievements, like Megaman 9 has. Now THAT would have been cool and added a lot more life to these classics! :)

[ButtonMasher123]

i unlocked everything last night lol, easy gamer points combined with a good collection and a low price? This should sell pretty well!

Yup, this will be the achievement whore's game of choice. We are about to have tons of new retro Genesis gamer's coming out the woodwork to get their free 1000 out of 1000 gamer points lol.

[Leo_A]

Lock-on capability isn't implimented, they claimed they'd have to of killed the 9 bonus titles to have had time to do it (bs excuse, obviousily was saved for a potential sequel).

[8-bitNesMan]

Lock-on capability isn't implimented, they claimed they'd have to of killed the 9 bonus titles to have had time to do it (bs excuse, obviousily was saved for a potential sequel).

That is utter FAIL! But given the choice I would rather have more titles I guess...

[PapaStu]

Yup, this will be the achievement whore's game of choice. We are about to have tons of new retro Genesis gamer's coming out the woodwork to get their free 1000 out of 1000 gamer points lol.


I'm sure that this is a quick 1k, but NOTHING is as fast as Avitar. 1k in 5 minutes (from booting of the game, to loading the first level, to achievement popping) can't be beat. I however will cash in on this 1k while I enjoy the rest of the game. Nice bonus if you ask me.

[s1lence]

I'm sure that this is a quick 1k, but NOTHING is as fast as Avitar. 1k in 5 minutes (from booting of the game, to loading the first level, to achievement popping) can't be beat. I however will cash in on this 1k while I enjoy the rest of the game. Nice bonus if you ask me.


Its about a 5-6 hour 1000. Depending on your Mr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine prowess.

Europe is also getting the game, for a separate 1000 points.

[heybtbm]

Its about a 5-6 hour 1000. Depending on your Mr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine prowess.

Yeah, that's the key there. I don't think I'll be finishing that last level anytime soon. No 1000/1000 for me most likely.

[c0ldb33r]

Lock-on capability isn't implimented, they claimed they'd have to of killed the 9 bonus titles to have had time to do it (bs excuse, obviousily was saved for a potential sequel).
Goddamnit that sucks. It isn't rocket science, just create a few extra roms that would be S&K + Sonic 1, S&K + Sonic 2 and S&K + Sonic 3, then we can load either the normal game or one of those other roms via options menu. There. Done. That would take someone all of 5 minutes.

Why is it that when Sega releases collections they can never use the S&K cart properly?!? Have you ever been able to lock on in any of Sega's Sonic collections? I can't recall ever being able to.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/epic_fail-1.jpg

[TheGam3r]

Are Streets Of Rage 1,2,3,Hang-On And wonder boy on it

[MegaDrive20XX]

Still boggles me how they call this the "Ultimate" when Revenge of Shinobi is mentioned and it's not even here.. Yet there's no Shadow Dancer, Hang-on, After Burner 2, Outrun, and c0ldb33r hit it on the nail. I can't play Sonic 2 with Knuckles, yet the game is nice to speak about it.

Did anyone notice the box art mistake on Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine and the PAL MegaDrive cart shown on another game?

[TheGam3r]

Still boggles me how they call this the "Ultimate" when Revenge of Shinobi is mentioned and it's not even here.. Yet there's no Shadow Dancer, Hang-on, After Burner 2, Outrun, and c0ldb33r hit it on the nail. I can't play Sonic 2 with Knuckles, yet the game is nice to speak about it.

WHAT!!!!No Outrun or Revenge of shinobi?

[heybtbm]

WHAT!!!!No Outrun or Revenge of shinobi?

As has been discussed on this forum in the past, Revenge of Shinobi will never be on a future SEGA compilation or VC release. Too many rights issues.

[TheGam3r]

As has been discussed on this forum in the past, Revenge of Shinobi will never be on a future SEGA compilation or VC release. Too many rights issues.

well.My friend eddy will be pissed cause no revenge of shinobi

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

You know, considering that this is a PS3/360 release they probably could have additionally DLC content in the future including patching the lock-on versions of the Sonic games or even additional games in general.

Whether or not they WILL is a mystery ... but when it comes to "fixes" anything is possible in this day and age of DLC and internal storage.

[8-bitNesMan]

well.My friend eddy will be pissed cause no revenge of shinobi

Look out Sega, you've really messed up now!!! :D

[Nionel]

Goddamnit that sucks. It isn't rocket science, just create a few extra roms that would be S&K + Sonic 1, S&K + Sonic 2 and S&K + Sonic 3, then we can load either the normal game or one of those other roms via options menu. There. Done. That would take someone all of 5 minutes.

Not to mention that the Sonic Mega Collection on the GameCube had the lock-on games, so we know they have roms for those games, and those roms can't take up that much space.

It's a bit of a let down that the lock-on games aren't present, but there are still enough good titles on this disc to warrant a pickup for me.

[Zap!]

Still boggles me how they call this the "Ultimate" when Revenge of Shinobi is mentioned and it's not even here.. Yet there's no Shadow Dancer, Hang-on, After Burner 2, Outrun, and c0ldb33r hit it on the nail. I can't play Sonic 2 with Knuckles, yet the game is nice to speak about it.

Did anyone notice the box art mistake on Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine and the PAL MegaDrive cart shown on another game?

Calling it a Genesis collection is a bit misleading, because there are a few non-Genesis games on there. They need to have three seperate Sega collections. One Genesis, one arcade, and one SMS.

[Zap!]

Be glad you aren't buying used, I'm not sure if it's just my local GameStop, they place a sticker on the spine, but instead of putting in on top of the case they put it on the cover art, I about cried the last time I bought something from them.

Anyway, on topic, I can't wait to get this. Sounds like it's gonna be great, thanks for that big post Shopkins, I was curious about how the games would look on an HDTV and how the emulation was.

I bought three used PS2 games there the other day, and was able to peel off the stickers (which was on the inside) completely, without ripping the art.

[Neil Koch]

Did anyone notice the box art mistake on Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine and the PAL MegaDrive cart shown on another game?

It also has Genesis cover art for Golden Axe III, and that game never came out in the US. It looks like a really bad Photoshop job.

[c0ldb33r]

There's an interesting article at seganerds about how easy it would have been for Sega to add lock-on to the S&K roms. According to them, it would only take the following code:


“Hey Sega, want to figure out how to lock on the Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles ROMs without storing an extra 4MB ROM image? Here’s how!

/* Super amazing lock-on ROM functionality!
* This would take Sega over 9,000 hours to write,
* but any half-decent programmer could do it in 5 minutes! */

unsigned char ROM[0×400000]; // 4 MB ROM buffer.
FILE *sk = f open(”sonic_and_knuckles.bin”, “rb”); // open the Sonic & Knuckles ROM
fread(&ROM[0], 1, 0×200000, sk);
fclose(sk);
FILE *s3 = f open(”sonic_3.bin”, “rb”); // open the Sonic 3 ROM
fread(&ROM[0×200000], 1, 0×200000, sk);
fclose(s3);

source: http://www.seganerds.com/2009/02/10/psa-sonic-3k-missing-from-ultimate-genesis-collection/#more-8189

It's just a pissoff.

[Leo_A]

Obviousily it's just a excuse without any validity. I imagine its so now they can market their next Genesis compilation as having Knuckles in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles, leaving some classic Sonic titles to use as a selling point in it, without appearing to the average consumer like they're just rehashing what's already been done.


As has been discussed on this forum in the past, Revenge of Shinobi will never be on a future SEGA compilation or VC release. Too many rights issues.

Ignore him, he loves to always make absolute claims like this without any basis.

Considering that Sega has reworked the game several times over the years and has rereleased it in semi recent history, I wouldn't be shocked to see them do so again.

[MegaDrive20XX]

It also has Genesis cover art for Golden Axe III, and that game never came out in the US. It looks like a really bad Photoshop job.

Yeah that was embarrassing. I also noticed they used the exact same interviews from the Sega Genesis Collection from PS2. (i.e. The creator of Altered Beast)

[MegaDrive20XX]

Calling it a Genesis collection is a bit misleading, because there are a few non-Genesis games on there. They need to have three seperate Sega collections. One Genesis, one arcade, and one SMS.

True, it should have been called "The Sega Classic Collection".

[incubus421]

it's 29.99 people!
instead of noting and picking every little flaw apart...enjoy it for what it is!
a solid genesis compilation with many games included being hard to find and/or expensive (manily looking at Phantasy Star and Shining Force here)

[c0ldb33r]

it's 29.99 people! instead of noting and picking every little flaw apart...enjoy it for what it is!
You've got a point, but don't forget that it's 30 bucks for games that cost them next to nothing to produce. Just program an emulator for the system, print a manual and cover and BAM, they're done. They didn't even give us new interviews, they're the exact same interviews as their prior genesis collection (PS2/PSP). To me it's a shame because it is an incredibly solid package at a great price and with just a few small tweaks it could have been perfect.

[DragonMaster Sam]

Interesting set of games, to say the least. I already have most of them on the Virtual Console, the Sega Genesis Collection on the PS2, and SoR2 on XBox Live. Might have to do some thinking.

[swlovinist]

It also has Genesis cover art for Golden Axe III, and that game never came out in the US. It looks like a really bad Photoshop job.

It actually was available through the sega Channel in the US. Not in physical cart form though.

[NayusDante]

I'm gonna pick this one up later today. Should I go 360 or PS3, considering that I don't see what's wrong with the 360's D-Pad? Does the 360 have the cool save-state system with the cartridge icons like the PS3 does? Any differences between the two? Do either have added rumble feature?