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XYXZYZ

11-20-2008, 11:02 AM

I rarely ever see mention of the SG-1000 on these boards, just wondering if anyone has one, were there any fun games on it?

http://homepage1.nifty.com/OGASHIN/SG100_1.JPG

zektor

11-20-2008, 11:07 AM

I have only used it in emulation, but there were quite a few fun games on the system. Ninja Princess comes to mind...which is an arcade port. People will remember this better as "The Ninja" on the Sega Master System. I love this game!

Flicky is another classic for the system. There weren't too many games, but there are definitely some quality titles in there. There was even a steering wheel for it almost like the CV wheel!

Iron Draggon

11-20-2008, 11:25 AM

I wish... I'd love to own all the early Sega systems & games, but the only 8BIT Sega system I own is a Game Gear... I played Phantasy Star on an emu once... I can't afford anymore old hardware yet... it sure would be nice though!

Steve W

11-20-2008, 12:47 PM

I've got a Telegames DINA Colecovision/SG-1000 clone, but I don't have any SG-1000 carts to try out on it. And the classic game events I've been to never have any for sale.

mailman187666

11-20-2008, 12:55 PM

I just looked up some stuff about the games and there is one called Dragon Wang. I looked up on ebay to see how much games go for on there, but I couldn't find anything.

Iron Draggon

11-20-2008, 01:03 PM

I just looked up some stuff about the games and there is one called Dragon Wang. I looked up on ebay to see how much games go for on there, but I couldn't find anything.

Dragon Wang? are you serious? LOL

MrSparkle

11-20-2008, 04:12 PM

i was THIS close to winning one on ebay along with an sg 1000 mark 3 and this cool wireless video broadcast system lost them all at the last second. Im pretty sure the sega emulator gens will run roms of it which will be the easiest way to check it out. ive never actually seen an sg-1000 cart in the wild which would have been a problem if i HAD won that system infact i havent seen one on ebay, digitpress forums or brick and mortar, or chase the chuckwagon though honestly i dont check very frequently. Its a pretty expensive system to get into given its age. Though the outer casing is really cool and space agey, much sexier external syling than the wood grained competitors of its day IMHO.

fishsandwich

11-20-2008, 04:56 PM

I've got a Telegames DINA Colecovision/SG-1000 clone, but I don't have any SG-1000 carts to try out on it. And the classic game events I've been to never have any for sale.

I have one of these, too. I got "Congo Bongo" off ebay to try it out. It sure as heck isn't the arcade version but it's reasonable fun.

Pete Rittwage

11-20-2008, 05:30 PM

I wouldn't think you'd ever see carts for this in the wild in the US, as it was never released in North America.

TheRealist50

11-20-2008, 05:50 PM

I would love to own one of these. To be totally honest I never actually seen one in person or on the internet anywhere.

icbrkr

11-20-2008, 07:13 PM

I've got the Dina 2 in 1 as well and only one game - Lode Runner. Not a bad game to test it out with.

Steve W

11-20-2008, 11:04 PM

I have one of these, too. I got "Congo Bongo" off ebay to try it out. It sure as heck isn't the arcade version but it's reasonable fun.
But to be fair, there aren't a whole lot of truly faithful Congo Bongo ports out there. I think the Commodore 64 version was good, but can't think of any others that didn't suck.

blue lander

11-21-2008, 11:28 AM

I've got an SG-1000 mk2, it's pretty cool. By far and away my favorite game for it is Girl's Garden. You play as a little girl and pretty much just run around collecting flowers so your boyfriend will love you or something like that. It might sound lame, but it's a lot of fun and it's the first game Yuji Naka ever wrote.

MrSparkle

11-21-2008, 11:54 AM

But to be fair, there aren't a whole lot of truly faithful Congo Bongo ports out there. I think the Commodore 64 version was good, but can't think of any others that didn't suck.

I liked the Intellivision version myself lol. I know that's not really something anyone else will agree with.

SegaAges

11-21-2008, 12:12 PM

I have always wanted to get one. I have been trying to collect sega systems, and that is the last home console, that I know of, that I don't own.

Those suck to find. Anybody who gets an opportunity to get one, get it, even if you don't want it, because I know that even if you don't want it, somebody else will. *points to himself

hahaha

Tempest

11-21-2008, 01:10 PM

I've been looking for one (or an SC-3000) for years now, but they're always too expensive. I have a few carts and cards that I'd love to try out on it including Solomans Key and Pop Flamer (a mouse with a falme thrower!).

Tempest

PingvinBlueJeans

11-21-2008, 05:54 PM

There weren't too many games, but there are definitely some quality titles in there. There was even a steering wheel for it almost like the CV wheel!
There are some quality titles, but the system really isn't that great. From a technical standpoint, it's a poor man's ColecoVision, but the game library is pretty weak. Given the time period that the system was released, you'd expect lots of classic Sega arcade titles (Carnival, Zaxxon, etc.)...but in truth, very few of those games made it to the system. It's fun to collect for due to the high number of obscure games that were not released on other consoles, but a lot of them aren't much fun to play...either because they just plain suck or because of poor programming (see my comments on Pop Flamer below).

And yes, the system and games are quite hard to find due to them selling in very low volumes to begin with.

Dragon Wang? are you serious? LOL
Yes, it was the precursor to Kung-Fu Kid on the Mark III/Master System.

I would love to own one of these. To be totally honest I never actually seen one in person or on the internet anywhere.
Most people haven't. For that reason, I've thought about bringing my Mark III and some games to NAVA one of these days, just so people can try it out. I might do it this month...we'll see.

I've been looking for one (or an SC-3000) for years now, but they're always too expensive. I have a few carts and cards that I'd love to try out on it including Solomans Key and Pop Flamer (a mouse with a falme thrower!).
An SC-3000 is going to be mighty hard to come by.

Soloman's Key is actually a Mark III/Master System title...it won't play on an original SG-1000.

Pop Flamer was an obscure Jaleco arcade game...the SG-1000 version plays a bit differently than the arcade version and might actually be fun if not for the awful collision detection.

Tempest

11-21-2008, 06:00 PM

Ahh you're right SK is a Mark III title. Is there an adapter to play Mark III titles on the SMS?

Tempest

Marriott_Guy

11-21-2008, 06:09 PM

I agree with the previous posts - the system is pretty cool, but the overall library is relatively weak. I have the SG-1000 MK1 & MK2. Graphically, this is nothing to write home about. I basically picked up both for their place in history (MK1 specifically). The Dina 2-in-1 (Telegames Personal Arcade) does a fair job of of playing SG-1000 games, but there are quite a few that are not compatible.

PingvinBlueJeans

11-21-2008, 06:10 PM

Ahh you're right SK is a Mark III title. Is there an adapter to play Mark III titles on the SMS?

Unfortunately, no. You can play American and European SMS cartridges on a Japanese unit (via adapter), but not the reverse. Additionally, US/Euro Sega cards play just fine on a Japanese unit.

Japanese games of any kind will not play on an American or European system (regional lockout via different BIOS).

Greg2600

11-21-2008, 06:20 PM

I saw a number of listings on ebay recently from the same seller of individual games, which were fairly cheap. These were sega mark-III imports though. Is there any compatibility between the SG-1000/3000, Mark III, and Master System? Also, was the SG-1000 PAL or NTSC?

PingvinBlueJeans

11-21-2008, 06:40 PM

Is there any compatibility between the SG-1000/3000, Mark III, and Master System?
The original SG-1000 and Mark II play only SG-1000 games. The SC-3000 was a computer version of the SG-1000 that will play SG-1000 game titles and computer programs designed specifically for it. (The SC-3000 was to the SG-1000 what the ADAM computer was to the ColecoVision).

The Sega Mark III plays all SG-1000 games plus games specifically programmed for the Mark III and SMS. The (Japanese)* Master System is an upgraded version of the Mark III (additional sound chip) which plays all 8-bit Sega titles (later Mark III/SMS titles will have improved sound due to the FM chip).

All this refers to the Japanese systems, of course...see my previous post for compatibilty between regions.

*= The American Master System is actually a Mark III (no FM sound chip). Confused yet?

Also, was the SG-1000 PAL or NTSC?
All of these were Japanese systems, thus NTSC.

Tempest

11-21-2008, 07:17 PM

Sounds like what I really need is a Japanese SMS with a card catcher. The Japanese SMS plays SC-1000 titles like the Mark III right?

Tempest

PingvinBlueJeans

11-21-2008, 07:36 PM

Sounds like what I really need is a Japanese SMS with a card catcher. The Japanese SMS plays SC-1000 titles like the Mark III right?

Yes, a Japanese SMS will play basically everything (minus the SC-3000 programs) and is probably your best bet. It doesn't look as cool as the Mark III (IMO) and it's not compatible with the Sega keyboard, but those setbacks (if one considers them as such) are offset by the improved sound capabilities of the FM sound chip. Regardless, you don't need a card catcher...both the Mark III and Master System have one built in. They also both have composite A/V output, whereas the earlier systems had RF out only.

PentiumMMX

11-21-2008, 07:59 PM

Dragon Wang? are you serious? LOL

It does exist. It's really hard, too

Greg2600

11-22-2008, 03:05 PM

grolt

11-22-2008, 07:55 PM

Thanks for the clear explanation Ping, wish yours was what is written on Wikipedia. That is quite cool that SEGA kept the same 8-bit compatibility from one generation to the next, like the Atari computers. Hmmm......a Japanese Master System......
I recently bought a Japanese Master System with the SMS Power! Gender Adapter (see here (http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8714)) and it's really the be all, end all SMS console. It has rapid fire built in, the 3D glasses adapter built in (you don't have to plug it into the card slot any longer), you can play SG-1000 and Mark III games on it, and the gender adapter lets you play not only all the western games from Europe/Brazil/North America, but you can play all of them with the FM sound enabled. Some scores that were incredibly grating with the regular chip (Kenseiden) suddenly sound beautiful in FM. There are about 20 games that were never released in Japan that also had FM support, so if you want to hear games like Altered Beast or California Games in glorious FM, the Japanese Master System and Gender Adapter is the only way to do it.

There are a ton of great Japanese exclusive Mark III games that really make the system worth owning. The games that support the paddle controller (Alex Kidd: BMX Trials, Galactic Protector, Woody Pop) really are a blast to play. Rygar, never released on the SMS in the States thanks to Nintendo's third-party stranglehold, is really awesome, too.

I haven't gotten into the SG-1000 very much, but it's something I plan on doing. I have a few games for it, and actually have quite a bit of fun with Safari Hunting.

Tempest

11-22-2008, 08:31 PM

Hmm... Now I just need to find a Japanese SMS. They pop up on ebay now and then but they're always ungodly expensive with shipping.

Tempest

XYXZYZ

11-22-2008, 08:37 PM

Well, here are a couple of opportunities for you collectors who don't mind paying a fortune on those Y!J bidding services.

http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m61546307

http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n70287378

vintagegamecrazy

03-12-2009, 12:59 AM

coinheaven

03-12-2009, 07:19 AM

i have ported a few of these games to the SMS. here is qbert:

http://www.chasethechuckwagon.com/item.cgi?show_item=0000072506

i have also done james bond, lode runner, congo bongo, guzzler and safari race. maybe ill try that dragon wang game next:

http://www.smspower.org/scans/sgsc/dragonwang/both/1?c3lzdGVtPXNnc2MmcGF0aD1kL2RyYWdvbndhbmctYm90aDEu anBnJnR5cGU9Qm90aCZ3aWR0aD02OTgmaGVpZ2h0PTEwMDAmc2 l6ZT0xMzQmY29udHJpYnV0b3I9YW5hZ3JhbWEmY291bnRyeT1q cA==

Pezcore343

03-12-2009, 10:33 AM

There are a bunch of SG-1000 games on eBay at the moment for pretty cheap if anyone was interested. I saw both cartridge and card formats but no systems.

Greg2600

03-12-2009, 07:42 PM

I would advise checking youtube for videos of the games beforehand. There were several SG-1000 games where I said to myself, hmm, then saw them on youtube, and said, um no.

slapdash

03-12-2009, 10:04 PM

I'd been looking for one of the systems for YEARS with no luck, so when one showed up on eBay, even though it was for a lot more than I wanted to spend, I hit BIN and put $500 on my credit card, ouchies. They DO show up a little more often this decade, but you're more likely to see the Mk II or the SC-3000.

Ed Oscuro

03-12-2009, 10:34 PM

In response to the original question of whether I have an SG-1000:

Yes and no.

I have a SC-3000 (I'd like to get a SC3000H with a proper keyboard instead of chiclet keys), and I have an adaptor to play Sega Card games on it, but I still need to find out what sort of power supply it uses. Lawrence said he'd get me one since I had no way of finding out what power it used, but I haven't gotten back with him yet (money always being tight - I should write him this weekend).

I don't know of any reason, besides price, why a person should get a SG-1000 over a SC-3000; I believe (perhaps I'm wrong) that the Mark III (JPN equivalent of the SMS) plays the cartridge games, and the SC-3000 has at least one joystick port in the side. You also have the ability to get some kind of memory expansion or disk module with the SC-3000.

A well-known Australian retailer sold the SC-3000 locally; I had a sort of naive hope that I'd find one during my short vacation there - no luck of course, and I wouldn't have been able to afford it even if I had, and then there's the voltage and picture format discrepancies; a no go all around.

Card format games I have (all complete in a very unusual package:
H.E.R.O.
ZOOM 909
Sokoban

Cartridge:
Borderline (it's also in MAME, not much of a classic)
maybe some baseball game (?)

I really should get rid of Sokoban and maybe even H.E.R.O. (it's not a bad game - in fact it's the best port of this game, but I didn't enjoy it too much) and instead get Adventure Island and Ninja Princess - maybe also Girl's Garden and some other stuff.

ZOOM 909 is a fun enough game, although I don't think it has all the scenes of the arcade game. It does have a very cool spaceship on the package which sort of looks like a flying Xbox, however, seen through the window of a fighter spacecraft with the pilot's hands and futuristic chiclet control panel in the foreground ;)

Steve W

03-12-2009, 11:43 PM

Does anyone here have any experience with Dina repair? mine powers on and displays haze but I cant get any video to display properly. Any help would be great since I'd love to get SG1000 games for my collection.

Did you put it on channel 13? If I recall, it needed to be on that channel. And mine was fuzzy too. Like it's been said before, it's a cool little machine for collecting purposes, but it's not a Colecovision replacement.

PingvinBlueJeans

03-14-2009, 11:24 PM

Ed Oscuro

03-15-2009, 06:28 AM

There's some fun accessories for the SG / SC series, for example, a card carrying case with this text printed on the front:

CARD HOLDER TYPE-1 C-1001
GAME SOFT WARE……
NOW JUST A CARD!
TRULY A FAST OF
IT KIND IN THE
WORLD!!

I recently bought a Japanese Master System with the SMS Power! Gender Adapter (see here (http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8714)) and it's really the be all, end all SMS console.
Thanks for that link, I'll have to check this out. Might toss the SC-3000 on eBay eventually and go that route, which I always wanted to anyway :3