PSP-4000 and PSP2 Coming Soon

[The 1 2 P]

Reports of both of these systems have been coming in although there hasn't been an official announcement made yet by Sony: http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/report-sony-to-release-psp4000-in-09-psp2-to-follow/

Like the artical says, the PSP-4000 is most likely being made to fight off the new DSi that releases here next year. As for the PSP2, I hope they make more games for it than the first one.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Notes to Sony:


Ditch the Vertical Resolution Line LCD screen found in the 3000 model.
Sure, it's sharper and brighter ... but the movement artifacts aren't pretty.

2 Analog Sticks in both the PSP 4000 and the PSP 2 please. Thank you.

[TonyTheTiger]

Assuming that a PSP-4000 would not have software that doesn't work on earlier models, how will a second analog work? Now on a PSP2 that's a must.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Assuming that a PSP-4000 would not have software that doesn't work on earlier models, how will a second analog work? Now on a PSP2 that's a must.

As many many hardware modifiers have already done, it could be assignable to the X, Square, Triangle and Circle buttons with some type of software handled dead-space between them.

It would be more of a pseudo digital stick mapped out to buttons ... but in a more appropriate place.

There are plenty of MAME cabinets that use joysticks that are just mapped out to keyboard keys with the fakey-analog timing handled by the software.

I'm sure Sony could do it if they wanted to. (They probably won't on the PSP-4000, but a guy can dream!)

[neuropolitique]

As many many hardware modifiers have already done, it could be assignable to the X, Square, Triangle and Circle buttons with some type of software handled dead-space between them.

It would be more of a pseudo digital stick mapped out to buttons ... but in a more appropriate place.

There are plenty of MAME cabinets that use joysticks that are just mapped out to keyboard keys with the fakey-analog timing handled by the software.

I'm sure Sony could do it if they wanted to. (They probably won't on the PSP-4000, but a guy can dream!)

fuck you make my brain hurt.

[RyanMurf]

fuck you make my brain hurt.

Haha its not all that complicated just read line by line and im sure you will understand :)

[Leo_A]

I highly doubt a second analog stick would work with preexisting titles. They'd have to be patched (Does this ever happen to PSP games? I've never downloaded anything ingame, just firmware updates).

But there's no reason future PSP titles couldn't take advantage of it, with the option being able to be turned on in a options screen or automatically be enabled if it detected it was running on a PSP-4000.

[SpaceHarrier]

I doubt I'll be purchasing any of the X000 model PSPs, one is enough. The PSP2 could be enticing though...hmmm: BLUMD??? Maybe?? I mean, c'mon! That would be cool. Probably really really expensive, but it's Sony, right?

[Hitman Tyler]

Oh come on Sony! How many models do you need to put out? I am trying to decide which to buy, I am leading towards a 2000 though.
Also a 2nd analog in my mind is not worth it, I kinda like the psp the way it is. I would like a touch screen but I know it's kinda impossible but beggars can't be choosers also

[GrandAmChandler]

fuck you make my brain hurt.

I agree, leave the controls the way they are.

[kedawa]

A second analog stick would be nice for PS1 emulation, but so would R2/3 and L2/3 buttons.
I don't see it happening.

[CosmicMonkey]

I'm sure that there will eventually be a 4000 series PSP, but it'll be just the same feature-wise as the current 3000 series. Maybe Sony will sneak in a screen fix, but it'll just be one final cost saving model with less components, and a reduced production cost. If it becomes cheap enough/technically feasible, they could possibly build-in the GPS unit or even the camera but that's all the current PSP spec would allow for.

As for the inevitable PSP2, I'm hoping that design wise it'll be somewhere between the Pandora and this lovely fan-made render:

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/2281/hotpsprenderea6.jpg

Whatever we end up with, I'm sure it will be a very nice looking product and will feature enhanced PSP/PS3 connectivity. I'm wondering if it will feature a touch/multi-touch display, and I'm sure Sony will find a reason to include one (if only to compete with iPhone/iPod). I also think that PSP2 will be the one that Sony add full mobile phone functions to. I mean, most of the hardware is already there, just add a SIM slot and away you go.

As for the games, I'm really hoping it will be the end of UMD. The question is: will Sony go for download-only games? All new Sony published games for the PSP are available as download from the PS Store, so they're definitely testing the water. And following the blatant hacking and piracy that plagued the current PSP, Sony are obviously going to go for the most secure method of distribution.

People are already loving WiiWare/PSN/Live!, and all iPhone/iPod games are only available digitally. It'll be interesting to see how Brazil gets on with the Zeebo too, if anyone actually buys one. Give it a couple more years and the whole concept will be much more widely accepted. Much as some of you guys hate the idea of not having box/manual/disc, digital downloads really are the future.

[Leo_A]

That thing looks horrible, lets hope their plans don't include anything like that.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY1wM-YexC4

I'm really surprised that nobody has seen a modified PSP with a 2nd analog installed.

Fast forward to about 1:00 and you can see it in action. Works fine mapped to the buttons ... if sony added firmware code to flesh out the functionality they really wouldn't have to "patch" anything.

[DeputyMoniker]

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/2281/hotpsprenderea6.jpg


I'd rather they just make a good handheld. Skip all the "extra" features. And can you imagine having to play a game on that rendering? You'd have to attach it to a chest harness so the weight distribution wouldn't hurt your wrists...the controls are way too far down the base. It looks good though.

[kedawa]

Agreed. The original DS was bad enough ergonomically, and that thing looks 10x worse.

[CosmicMonkey]

I'd rather they just make a good handheld. Skip all the "extra" features.

Oh, I agree. But the only company now that makes pure games consoles is Nintendo. Going by Sony's MO, and the evolving multimedia capabilities of the PSX, PS3 and PSP, we know the PSP2 is going to be Sony's attempt at an über-handheld/smartphone.


And can you imagine having to play a game on that rendering? You'd have to attach it to a chest harness so the weight distribution wouldn't hurt your wrists...the controls are way too far down the base. It looks good though.

I'm sure it would be appalling to play, but I really like the overall concept. I'll be interested to compare it to the final product.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Oh, I agree. But the only company now that makes pure games consoles is Nintendo...

Wait, the Wii with it's growing selection of non-gaming related "channels" (Weather, News, Internet, Photo, Chat, etc.) and the DSi with it's two cameras, SD card slot and music playback features are PURE game consoles?

Maybe you meant until very recently Nintendo was the only company making pure gaming devices.

[The 1 2 P]

That thing looks horrible.

Sure does. It looks more like a portable dvd player than a game machine.

[CosmicMonkey]

Well, the new PSP rumors certainly keep on coming. It seems that UMD really is out and the system will be available with either 8GB or 16GB of internal flash memory. Currently there seem to be a couple of names floating around, of which PSP Go! is one. So maybe a built-in Go!Cam? It'd certainly make sense. The rumors also point to a complete redesign with a sliding form factor. Which leads nicely to another artist's impression:

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4515/114i.jpg

1up article (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173959)

[kupomogli]

I think they should just have the PSP2 keep the same look as the current slim models and add touch screen support. Please keep UMDs because I will not get the system if the games are only downloadable.

For larger games, they could create multi disc UMD games or even dual layered UMD on the PSP2. The PSP cases are easily sized to fit a couple of discs. Another good feature of retaining the UMD drive but enhancing it is backwards compatibility. It could be used as a selling point(plus all my PSP games on one system,) especially to the point that people may end up thinking Sony might remove backwards compatibility like they did with the PS3.

[Poofta!]

Well, the new PSP rumors certainly keep on coming. It seems that UMD really is out and the system will be available with either 8GB or 16GB of internal flash memory. Currently there seem to be a couple of names floating around, of which PSP Go! is one. So maybe a built-in Go!Cam? It'd certainly make sense. The rumors also point to a complete redesign with a sliding form factor. Which leads nicely to another artist's impression:

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4515/114i.jpg

1up article (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173959)

that render looks even more painful to play than the other. no way in hell is this gonna happen, and if it does, consider me out.


I think they should just have the PSP2 keep the same look as the current slim models and add touch screen support. Please keep UMDs because I will not get the system if the games are only downloadable.

For larger games, they could create multi disc UMD games or even dual layered UMD on the PSP2. The PSP cases are easily sized to fit a couple of discs. Another good feature of retaining the UMD drive but enhancing it is backwards compatibility. It could be used as a selling point(plus all my PSP games on one system,) especially to the point that people may end up thinking Sony might remove backwards compatibility like they did with the PS3.

unfortunately the UMD media is dead. always was. no way will 2+ disk games coming out. forget about it and start getting used to the notion. however all is not lost. it seems sony has adopted the premise of selling you the box+manual in retail w/ a code to download the full game. this is how Patapon2 will be distributed. honestly i am up for this. us collectors still get shelf candy and lack of media keeps costs lower. plus i prefer to be able to copy/dupe my media anyway via PCs. i dumped every UMD i had (over 50 games) so i dont even touch those. might as well not existed in that form.

plus dont forget UMD drive = moving parts. greater battery drain, a lot higher manufacturing cost and overall makes the console a lot more fragile. let it die ;)

[sebastiankirchoff]

Wow, this thread reminds me of the day that I got my PSP, exactley 4 years ago. I was literally begging for one, and managed to persuade my parents to get me one for my birthday. Was excited for maybe a month, but got bored and have only used it for maybe 20 hours since then. I should have asked for the DS, because I was severely dissapointed with the PSP. Its not a bad system by any means, its just that there aren't as many good games as the DS.

But I digress.

I think that if they added a second analog stick, faster loading times and more good games, the PSP2 can be a success. Screw PSP-4000, Sony needs to move on and make a new, far superior product.

[Poofta!]

Wow, this thread reminds me of the day that I got my PSP, exactley 4 years ago. I was literally begging for one, and managed to persuade my parents to get me one for my birthday. Was excited for maybe a month, but got bored and have only used it for maybe 20 hours since then. I should have asked for the DS, because I was severely dissapointed with the PSP. Its not a bad system by any means, its just that there aren't as many good games as the DS.

But I digress.

I think that if they added a second analog stick, faster loading times and more good games, the PSP2 can be a success. Screw PSP-4000, Sony needs to move on and make a new, far superior product.

oh yeah? well i think the psp is worlds ahead of the ds. of course 50% of this reasoning is because i can emulate on it!

ps: i have a ds too

[dairugger]

I just dont get people being disappointed with the psp, i take mine everywhere and game on it constantly. I do have a ds, and its a great system, but i love being able to emulate all my favorite games of yore, plus play greats like ultimate gng, megaman powered up, megaman x, final fantasy 1 & 2 & tactics, legend of heroes, god of war, and so much more. plus it plays all my psx games, portable lunar 1 & 2 for the win!

and i like the umd format, but im weird like that, i love the little discs. little dvd's on the go!
while i do wish it had two analogs, ive never had a problem adjusting to the controls of any console.

[ShinobiMan]

Its not a bad system by any means, its just that there aren't as many good games as the DS.

I've always thought the same of all gaming consoles that fail to win me over. It all comes down to the games.

Seabass is right, screw the PSP-4000. Move onto bigger and better things. It'll be interesting if Sony can pull a PSP2 off, what with the relative failure of the PS3.

[kupomogli]

What I don't get is that the majority of games on the PSP are atleast playable, instead of the majority of the DS being shoveware. So the system doesn't have as many games as the DS does. It atleast has more good games than the DS.

How many games are you really going to own for the system? I'd say for both the PSP and DS, pick the ones you're going to like and skip the rest. Even though the PSP has fewer games than the DS, there's been more games that I enjoy.

I love my DS, because it does have alot of good games and it's better than the PS360 and by far better than than it's own console brethren, but the PSP is just an overall better system, even without the emulation. The fact that the PSP can emulate consoles from the Atari to the PSX and GBA perfectly(aside from issues on some SNES and a couple GBA games not running full speed) makes the system itself my favorite of all time.

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About the UMD being dead. Why? It's just like any other specialized format for a specific system. Yes, load times are there, but like I've said many times in other threads, there are games that have extremely minimal load times. I always bring up Brave Story since that has the least load times of any game on the system, loading even faster than some DS games at certain points. The GTA games only take about three seconds of loading when switching areas or starting missions and after missions are completed it just gives you your reward with no loading.

It really just depends on how the game is developed.

With multidisc UMD titles, we can finally see FF7 with all those FMVs we know they're going to add into the game. I'd actually want to see a PSP FF7 with the graphics that Crisis Core had. Not a huge FF7 fan, but it's a good game. Even if it's the only multidisc UMD game.

[mnbren05]

I love my PSP best way to kill time waiting for classes at college. (especially the three hour breaks here and there) I buy up umd's like crazy and love the ultra portability. Heck I have played 14 full seasons of madden 09 on my PSP and I'm still going strong. I have no desire to dump my darth vader psp and I do not like he idea of it being replaced, but I suppose digital is the wave of the future.

[Nature Boy]

that render looks even more painful to play than the other.

I actually think it looks pretty cool. I can see where you might think it'd be awkward to play though. Personally I'd give it a shot - I love my PSP

[heybtbm]

I just want to be able to play my PSP games after my launch day PSP finally dies. The battery only lasts for 2 hours max at this point and needs to be constantly plugged in, so it could be argued that my PSP is already dead.

[norkusa]

I just want to be able to play my PSP games after my launch day PSP finally dies. The battery only lasts for 2 hours max at this point and needs to be constantly plugged in, so it could be argued that my PSP is already dead.

You sure it's not the battery that's dying?

[heybtbm]

You sure it's not the battery that's dying?

Yeah, it's definitely the battery. My post was probably unclear.

[kupomogli]

Here is a good substitute for UMDs.

Everyone knows how Sony loves their proprietary source of media and I think a UMD only holds 1.7GB. Well, Sony could still keep their proprietary source, we larger sizes for games, and load times would be cartridge like.

Memory Stick Pro Duo anyone?

From all the rumors, Sony is going to include a 16GB harddrive. There could also be the Memory Stick Pro Duo drive which could be a combo drive(such as DVD/DVD-R drives on PC's.) When inserting a PSP2 game, the system could recognize it as the game format, while inserting a normal Memory Stick Pro Duo, it recognizes it as a memory format. One slot for the games and one for the memory stick or even two slots that are combo would also be cool.

So what do you guys think. We still will actually get physical copies paired in addition to low load times. I think this is the way Sony should go if they remove UMD.

[FxMercenary]

i just bought a psp 3000 a month ago, now this? How does one keep up with the modern games along with collecting classic games?

[maxlords]

Here's a question. I run a PSP-1000 and I have around 25 or so UMD based games. If I get a PSP-4000 and it doesn't have a UMD drive...how the hell am I going to play all the games I have on it? Are they gonna offer a conversion thing where you DL the UMD games from PSP to PSP with a cable or something? Or are us physical media people just screwed?

[duo_r]

I don't see how the PSP4000 is going to drop UMD support, there is just no way they could do that. That would be like creating an entire new system, so instead they would just go to the PSP2. Dropping UMD isn't like dropping the GBA slot on the DSi. However, I am hearing that Sony does want to do digital distribution and encouraging developers to go in that direction (with the existing PSP). I need to get a 16gb stick....soon.


Here's a question. I run a PSP-1000 and I have around 25 or so UMD based games. If I get a PSP-4000 and it doesn't have a UMD drive...how the hell am I going to play all the games I have on it? Are they gonna offer a conversion thing where you DL the UMD games from PSP to PSP with a cable or something? Or are us physical media people just screwed?

[otaku]

I've enjoyed the psp as much as I have the DS and its a far better machine overall with all its many uses. I'll consider getting a 4000 after having owned the original and the 2000 kinda dislike that they're getting rid of umds though but oh well at least I don't own a bunch of them (none atm actually) and as for the ds shovelware comment its the same with the wii they catch the mainstreams attention and bingo tons of sales of systems and even crappy games!

[walrusmonger]

I have owned a Japanese 1000 (Japanese launch @ the rape price of $600 to get it early... stupid mistake), a US 1000 (when I didn't want to lose the firmware), a Japanese (MGS camo), US 2000 (vader), and now a US 3000 (to play Resistance).

I will *not* be buying another unit, I'm already on PSP #5.

[duo_r]

I must not be up to speed on things. A PSP3000 is required to play resistance?


I have owned a Japanese 1000 (Japanese launch @ the rape price of $600 to get it early... stupid mistake), a US 1000 (when I didn't want to lose the firmware), a Japanese (MGS camo), US 2000 (vader), and now a US 3000 (to play Resistance).

I will *not* be buying another unit, I'm already on PSP #5.

[Leo_A]

No, I don't even think you need the 3000 to utilize the tv/out and DS3 control options for it.

If you've wasted that much money on 5 PSP's, I've got 5 bucks here that says you'll be buying everyone they ever put out. lol

[walrusmonger]

No, I don't even think you need the 3000 to utilize the tv/out and DS3 control options for it.

If you've wasted that much money on 5 PSP's, I've got 5 bucks here that says you'll be buying everyone they ever put out. lol

Nah, I sold my PSP and bought a 3000 so I could play Resistance- I didn't have a PSP at the time.

I am fortunate enough that I didn't lose much selling the PSPs, the only one I took at hit on was the first one, but that was a stupid purchase in the first place.

[kupomogli]

No, I don't even think you need the 3000 to utilize the tv/out and DS3 control options for it.

If you've wasted that much money on 5 PSP's, I've got 5 bucks here that says you'll be buying everyone they ever put out. lol

I'll take that bet. Means he has to buy the Crisis Core PSP, Dissidia PSP, Gundam vs Gundam PSP, etc.

You can owe me.

I own three PSP systems. My original phat(UMD drive stopped working,) a mint green, and a white Vader. I'm glad I ended up picking up the slims because they're better in every way. The control on the phat for some reason you had to press hard down when doing down right, also the X button while didn't break, was lower than the other buttons and it felt like you weren't really pressing on it. After using the phat sometime afterward getting the slims, I don't know why I didn't get a slim sooner as the smaller size and still good design makes them far better(if the phat never died I never would have picked up either slim.)

[Poofta!]

Here is a good substitute for UMDs.

Everyone knows how Sony loves their proprietary source of media and I think a UMD only holds 1.7GB. Well, Sony could still keep their proprietary source, we larger sizes for games, and load times would be cartridge like.

Memory Stick Pro Duo anyone?

From all the rumors, Sony is going to include a 16GB harddrive. There could also be the Memory Stick Pro Duo drive which could be a combo drive(such as DVD/DVD-R drives on PC's.) When inserting a PSP2 game, the system could recognize it as the game format, while inserting a normal Memory Stick Pro Duo, it recognizes it as a memory format. One slot for the games and one for the memory stick or even two slots that are combo would also be cool.

So what do you guys think. We still will actually get physical copies paired in addition to low load times. I think this is the way Sony should go if they remove UMD.

honestly i couldnt understand half of that... are you proposing a dvd drive on the psp? either way you are missing the point. all optical media = bad for portable. moving parts = bad. there will be nothing of the sort in whatever sony puts out next. it is a drain on the battery, expensive to make and makes the thing much heavier and more fragile; all things you DO NOT want in a portable. also, it will not be a HARD DRIVE, but a Solid State Disk (similar to a flash drive).



Here's a question. I run a PSP-1000 and I have around 25 or so UMD based games. If I get a PSP-4000 and it doesn't have a UMD drive...how the hell am I going to play all the games I have on it? Are they gonna offer a conversion thing where you DL the UMD games from PSP to PSP with a cable or something? Or are us physical media people just screwed?

yes this is most likely what will happen, you will be able to rip your UMDs from a ps3 or pc through your current psp, officially. you can already do that unnoffically if you have a custom firmware psp. i dump any UMD i want to play to my memory card right on the psp (without even hooking it up to anything, rips the entire game to my 16gb mem card).

[Leo_A]

Not a prayer of that happening, you could just share games or rent PSP games and rip them. It doesn't make a shred of sense beyond being wishful thinking (Though I hope I'm wrong and usually am when I say such things :)).

[CosmicMonkey]

yes this is most likely what will happen, you will be able to rip your UMDs from a ps3 or pc through your current psp, officially. you can already do that unnoffically if you have a custom firmware psp. i dump any UMD i want to play to my memory card right on the psp (without even hooking it up to anything, rips the entire game to my 16gb mem card).

I really don't think that will happen. A PSP-USB cable would open up a huge can of worms and Sony will never allow for it.

Anyway, more possible evidence of a new digital content only PSP has arisen from a Joystiq article (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/04/capcom-preparing-to-release-between-20-and-40-ps1-and-psp-titles/). Capcom have announced they will be releasing between 20 and 40 PSone/PSP titles on the PlayStation Network over the coming months. They'll even allow you to vote on what games you want to see over on Capcom Unity (http://www.capcom-unity.com/).

Capcom are obviously readying themselves for a massive PSP software presence on PSN. The company seems to have happily taken to Live/PSN for Xbox and PS3 games so it's understandable they're readying themselves to be at the forefront of downloadable content for the new PSP.

[kupomogli]

honestly i couldnt understand half of that... are you proposing a dvd drive on the psp? either way you are missing the point. all optical media = bad for portable. moving parts = bad. there will be nothing of the sort in whatever sony puts out next. it is a drain on the battery, expensive to make and makes the thing much heavier and more fragile; all things you DO NOT want in a portable. also, it will not be a HARD DRIVE, but a Solid State Disk (similar to a flash drive).

No. I was saying turning the Sony proprietary cartridge type format, the Memory Stick Pro Duo, as the games media format. I was only saying that like a DVD/DVD-R combo player on a CD, the slot that uses the Memory Stick Pro Duo could load both the game format and it could also load as a form of memory, depending on which stick you put in. So having the ability to switch cards to play a game or use it as a multimedia device with mp3s, avi, mpeg, etc.

[duo_r]

I think the memory stick pro duo for games is an awesome idea. Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen.

[kupomogli]

Here's an example, though I did leave out the obvious and important things. Name of the game, logo(Square Enix,) and instead of Sony there'd be some sortof Playstation symbol. But what if they opted not to have the name of the game on the card because the box already has the name of the game and put a picture on each card that represents the game?

Another thing is that 2GB and 4GB cards can be bought for nothing now days, so developers could create the game and then if it won't fit on a specific size card, then move up to the next, or maybe they could say 4GB would be there limit and go for that goal.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/kupomogli/ff7psp2.jpg

[ProgrammingAce]

For those of you who absolutely love the PSP and play it all the time, how many UMD games have you *bought* new at the standard pricing between $30 and $40?

[duo_r]

like 3 maybe. The rest I all got used or on sales.

[kupomogli]

I've bought four imports at the price of 60 each, more than the standard 30/40. Gundam Battle Royale, Gundam Battle Chronicles, Gundam Battle Universe, and Macross Ace Frontier.

Games I bought at release that were 39.99. Prinny Can I Really Be the Hero, Crisis Core, Midnight Club LA Remix, Tales of the World Radiant Mythology, Brave Story, Wild ARMs XF, Star Ocean First Departure, Star Ocean and Second Evolution.

Games I bought at release that were 29.99. Mega Man Maverick Hunter X, Dracula X Chronicles, Mega Man Powered Up, Wipeout Pulse, Jeanne D Arc, and Silent Hill Origins.

I may have picked up others at 29.99 or 39.99 but those are the ones I picked up at release. There were alot of games I didn't pick up because I wanted price to drop because I had others or because those were ones I didn't want to pay full price for. There were also others that I really didn't think of picking up at the time or that I didn't know were as good as they are.

Games like Driver 76, Gurumin, Riviera, Yggdra Union, God of War, Street Fighter Alpha 3, GTALCS, GTAVCS, Power Stone Collection, Valkyrie Profile and Field Commander are just a few of those that I picked up after release(though other than VP that was 39.99, and SFA3 for 9.99, not sure what everything else was.) If a friend of mine never told me about Gurumin I would have missed out on one of the best PSP(although PC port) titles out there. Same friend also told me about Field Command which is pretty awesome too(sure it's a ripoff of Advance Wars but it does it just as good.)

[kupomogli]

wtf? *disregard.* Somehow editing the post added a reply.

[duo_r]

if you count imports then probably like 6 for me. I bought the PC Engine Best collection games (3).

[ProgrammingAce]

In the interest of fairness, i own something like 25 PSP games, probably 15 of them were bought at full price.

The point i was trying to make was that people think games on the PSP are great until they see the $40 price tag, then they just pirate the hell out of them. Then go on message boards and complain when people bash the PSP...

[kupomogli]

I haven't really seen people who pirate PSP games try and defend the system. It always seems to me they bash Sony because the newest updated firmware will end up getting hacked by Dark Alex or team Noobz or "insert other random person here" and that they don't pay for their games.

Either that, or other people bashing the PSP because it doesn't have as many games as the DS. They end up using the excuse that they pirate the games only because it's a dead system. All the games coming out lately shows the system is anything but dead yet they'll probably use the same excuse.

I altogether own 42 or 43 PSP games though(ones that I bought at release were listed above.) I'm only at 30+ games for my DS.

[maxlords]

For those of you who absolutely love the PSP and play it all the time, how many UMD games have you *bought* new at the standard pricing between $30 and $40?

I'd say about 30 of the 40 or so I've bought were purchased at full retail price. I've kept about 25 of those 40 titles. I WILL buy more UMD based media at full retail. I will not however buy digital-only media at full retail...ever.

[CosmicMonkey]

Patapon 2 released as a PSN exclusive for $19.99 (http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/umd-less-patapon-2-officially-released-for-psp-another-brick-in/).

C'mon Sony, I really think that the cat has been let out of the bag. Just hurry up and announce this new PSP and show us some pictures of the new form factor.

[Sonicwolf]

I dont think, even with a psp2, that sony could easily dethrone the DS. It would have to be one hell of a special system for that to happen.

[Leo_A]

They have a pretty healthy chunk of the pie with 50 million PSP's sold, so I doubt they're interested in doing anything more than continuing to grow that number. Regardless of how many DS's there are, the PSP has been nothing but a success in terms of its install base. The closest anyone before this ever got to Nintendo before was about 10 million Game Gears, so I'm sure Sony views this as a success.

As for how much I've paid for PSP games, I've never spent more than $20 on one.

[kupomogli]

The PSP Go looks like crap. Supposedly this was in the most recent Qore video.

http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/131772/psp-go-box-01.jpg?411080

[chicnstu]

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZNYFtyaIbs&annotation_id=annotation_658167&feature=iv) the video.

I didn't watch the whole video, but I read that it has 16 GB of internal memory, how much do you guys think this will cost?

[joshnickerson]

In the video it was refered to as a "Premium" product, so I don't think it's gonna be any less than the current PSP, Chicnstu.

I don't like the idea of only supporting downloadable content, but I'd be even more worried about that sliding screen... when do you think we're gonna start seeing those things snapping off? (Of course, Sony would quickly respond that the screen breaking off is a "feature" (http://news.spong.com/article/8260/Sony_Boss_Unrepentant_as_PSP_Build_Quality_Issues_ Flare)...)

[kupomogli]

Hopefully the concept of PSP Go is that all games will come as physical copies but also have digital downloads for every game as well. That way those who like digital can purchase them that way and those who like to own physical copies can purchase them that way.

Of course the PSP Go will have more battery life due to not having moving parts, but it'll also not have the ability to actually "own" games. A 16GB included flash memory is a pretty smart idea as well, because if they happen to start the system at the same price the current PSP is at, 179.99, then it'll definitely be worth the price and I'm sure most people would see it that way.

The thing with the PSP Go is that since Sony is offering the games as downloadable titles only, it probably wouldn't matter if the system is hacked. The reason for this is that there is no disc drive for the system to fake running iso files. I think as long as Sony keeps the same security that the PSN has for PS3(downloading a game under one user account name and it's unplayable unless under that name) then it'd look like that there won't be pirating as rampant as it is on the original PSP.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Does anyone know if that thing can take Memory Sticks?

If it can, then hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooo piracy!

[CDiablo]

Does anyone know if that thing can take Memory Sticks?

If it can, then hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooo piracy!

Yeah, it takes a new format called micro pro duo, I believe, some new sony proprietary format. On topic fuck sony if you can only get games for this via digital download.

[swlovinist]

Sony needs to quit evolving a system that has not lived up to expectations.

Making a variant of a system that has less functions is just plain stupid.

Here is the reasons why this version of the PSP will probably fail

1. No UMD drive. This means that the games that people see on shelves cannot play on the unit. I dont see game stores pushing this version either. Without having the ability to play "used games" on the unit, then consider this a bust

2. Not a big enough evolution. Same probs that everyone has been stating. One analog stick. If you are going to make a "better" version of the PSP, then at least give it an upgrade to control.

3. Price??? You know that this version is going to be at least $150 out the door, if not more. If it is not going to be cheaper, and offer less of games, why should I buy it?

Sony made this version for two reasons: 1. To stop piracy, and to 2. Make a system in which cuts out used games.

I predict this an epic fail. Now that my PSP go bash is ended, I am going to play on my PS2 and remember when Sony did things right :)

[kedawa]

I'm really interested in compact handhelds, but this thing really doesn't look all that appealing. If I can buy a busted one the week after they come out and repair it on the cheap, I might consider getting one.
I'd rather get a Dingoo A320 or a Wiz if I want to be deal with flash memory cards and downloading content.

[parallaxscroll]

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/psp2thoughts-mar10.jpg

This mock-up of PSP2 looks so much better than PSP Go, IMO.

[Ed Oscuro]

I'd say about 30 of the 40 or so I've bought were purchased at full retail price. I've kept about 25 of those 40 titles. I WILL buy more UMD based media at full retail. I will not however buy digital-only media at full retail...ever.
I didn't know you were keen on getting out of gaming in the next couple of years, maxlords... ;)

Anyhow, I'm watching this. It's interesting. The PSP doesn't really seem positioned to provide the sort of stuff I'm looking for though - I had my fill of lo-fi third person shooters and stuff on the PSX and GameCube already.

It'll be interesting to see how they will deal with the existing catalog of UMD games, since people won't have serial #s for those. Whoops! Score one for CD keys as found in PC games, then.

[RPG_Fanatic]

Downloads only, not everyone has access to broadband wifi. I don't think it will sell.

[kedawa]

How many PSP owners don't have broadband, though?

[Sonicwolf]

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/psp2thoughts-mar10.jpg

This mock-up of PSP2 looks so much better than PSP Go, IMO.

I agree. Bigger screen and dual analog sticks. Would have been so much better.

Sony failed us again.

[Leo_A]

While I'm not fond about the current pictures going around, it at least beats that awful concept picture in my opinion. Only thing it has going for it is dual analog sticks.

[Nature Boy]

Downloads only, not everyone has access to broadband wifi. I don't think it will sell.

I think you're dead wrong (it will sell), but you do raise an interesting question: will they limit how large the games can get in order to minimize the download times? Sort of like what MS did with XBLA games.

Actually it's probably less 'will they' limit the size (because they will), it's 'how much will they' limit the size to. UMDs are 1.8 GB after all, and some games *use* that capacity.

[ScourDX]

It will be interesting how Sony will let existing user to transfer their UMD games to PSP Go. If Sony said screw user with UMD and tell them to repurchase their games via PSN, then expect their system to fail.