View Full Version : Entex Adventurevision on eBay!
I was trying to keep quiet about this, but sadly my $500 maximum bid has been surpassed. I was hoping I could take this with the bad economy, but guess not. Good luck, rent is due and I only have an extra $500 for now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170288340953&ssPageName=ADME:B:ONA:US:1123
Dark_Sol
12-28-2008, 05:14 AM
not this one again....lol
not this one again....lol
Again?
Dark_Sol
12-28-2008, 06:33 AM
yes, again..
yes, again..
You use the "again" word far too loosely, because the Adventurevision is almost never on eBay.
ryborg
12-28-2008, 05:27 PM
You use the "again" word far too loosely, because the Adventurevision is almost never on eBay.
Yes, again. There was a thread on this exact item a week ago. It's still on the first page of threads in this subforum.
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125841
Rickstilwell1
12-31-2008, 07:15 PM
This guy's reserve is in the thousands. He wants way too much for this. I got him to tell me the reserve. He said he couldn't change it because the item is not his and that's what they asked him to list it for. It didn't even sell.
Gameguy
12-31-2008, 07:32 PM
This guy's reserve is in the thousands. He wants way too much for this. I got him to tell me the reserve. He said he couldn't change it because the item is not his and that's what they asked him to list it for. It didn't even sell.
It's not even his? NEOBLAZE18 is starting to look very suspicious to me, it's almost like it's his system after all. ROFL
There's an Adventure Vision on Ebay here (http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-ADVENTURE-VISION-CONSOLE-GREAT-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ170288340953QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Video_Games?hash=item170288340953&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50)
no its not mine, i know the guy selling it though
no its not my brother and i know for a fact that the seller is a reliable guy,i've known him for years
ryborg
12-31-2008, 09:23 PM
It's not even his? NEOBLAZE18 is starting to look very suspicious to me, it's almost like it's his system after all. ROFL
Who cares whose system it really is? It won't be selling anytime soon for the price he wants.
He relisted it, with a starting price of $875. Should I bite or should I go elseware? Seems a bit high.
Rickstilwell1
01-01-2009, 03:57 PM
I wouldn't pay more than $500 if it doesn't have the box, any manuals or any of the other games. Defender came with the system you know. It's not like all 50,000 of the systems belong to collectors either. If it turned up now, I'm sure it will turn up again.
I think I'm going to wait for another as I need money for rent. I'm trying to ask in the buy/sell forum here to see if anyone will part with theirs.
Have you tried its emulator? The games aren't too great either.
The other thing is, you can see how he dropped the price. If you let this auction go out, maybe he will relist it again even cheaper if it won't sell.
y-bot
01-01-2009, 05:15 PM
I don't think I've ever heard of a decent condition working one selling for around $500. I haven't seen every one that's sold on Ebay but most I've seen were $800+ for a decent one. I sold a loose one with 3 games in 1998 for $2550.
98PaceCar
01-01-2009, 05:38 PM
I wouldn't pay more than $500 if it doesn't have the box, any manuals or any of the other games. Defender came with the system you know. It's not like all 50,000 of the systems belong to collectors either. If it turned up now, I'm sure it will turn up again.
I think I'm going to wait for another as I need money for rent. I'm trying to ask in the buy/sell forum here to see if anyone will part with theirs.
Have you tried its emulator? The games aren't too great either.
The other thing is, you can see how he dropped the price. If you let this auction go out, maybe he will relist it again even cheaper if it won't sell.
You won't get a loose working one for under $900 and will probably be closer to $1200 even with the market down right now. I know where there was a broken one for $500 and that was a pretty decent deal, even broken.
There were only 10,000 of them, not 50,000. There were only 1000 of each of the additional games, so adding them in jacks the price very quickly. Getting a system with all the games will set you back at least $2000 and if you want it boxed, be prepared to pay dearly as the boxes are extremely fragile and rare.
I don't think I've ever heard of a decent condition working one selling for around $500. I haven't seen every one that's sold on Ebay but most I've seen were $800+ for a decent one. I sold a loose one with 3 games in 1998 for $2550.
How much are the games worth? Let's say the system is worth $850 loose. Certainly, three games won't add on an extra $1,700. Either you got lucky and they waaaaaaay overbid, or that was just 1998 being 1998. I think people are waking up that this system is not uber-rare. At least 50,000 were made, it was in major stores, even advertized in magazines. There are systems out there far more rare an unheard of. Today, it doesn't go for much more than $650 loose in great condition.
You won't get a loose working one for under $900 and will probably be closer to $1200 even with the market down right now. I know where there was a broken one for $500 and that was a pretty decent deal, even broken.
There were only 10,000 of them, not 50,000. There were only 1000 of each of the additional games, so adding them in jacks the price very quickly. Getting a system with all the games will set you back at least $2000 and if you want it boxed, be prepared to pay dearly as the boxes are extremely fragile and rare.
Not true, it last sold last week for $640. While his reserve wasn't met, $640 was the high bid. We'll see if he gets $850 for it now.
And the broken one is still for sale on Dallas Craigslist for $500. No bites.
98PaceCar
01-01-2009, 05:58 PM
Not true, it last sold last week for $640. While his reserve wasn't met, $640 was the high bid. We'll see if he gets $850 for it now.
And the broken one is still for sale on Dallas Craigslist for $500. No bites.
There's a big difference between the high bid and what it will actually sell for. Right after Christmas in a down market is probably the worst time possible to sell something like this, so it may go a bit lower than normal. But, a lot of folks won't bid on something until the reserve is hit. So at that point, all bets are off. Someone may get lucky and get a deal on this, but somehow I think the real collectors will come out if it's going that low and the price will be pushed right back where it normally is.
Also realize that a seller with 3 feedback does not instill much confidence in buyers. He might also help his cause if he was using his own auction text, but I can assure you he is not (I'm the author of the text he copied from VGCL).
Can you provide a link showing that it was 50,000 made and not 10,000? Edit: Did a bit of research on this. Looks like wikipedia has struck again. The numbers I found while researching for my review were 10,000. I'd like to know where the 50,000 number came from, but my guess is there is no way of knowing. If it really were 50,000 instead of 10,000, they would be found much more often though.
ryborg
01-01-2009, 07:40 PM
or that was just 1998 being 1998.
Yeah, this. 1998 is relative eons ago in terms of ebay. I could sell worthless junk like loose SMB/DHs for $5 + shipping easy, every time. The market was absurdly inflated then, because buyers who previously didn't have access to games all of a sudden could buy whatever they wanted for a price they chose (not to mention USA's strong economy at the time). After a year or two, around 2000-01, the prices fell back to earth, close to what they are today for most vintage games/systems.
Rickstilwell1
01-01-2009, 08:01 PM
When I first talked to this seller, he said he got it for $500. Then later he said he was selling it for someone else so he couldn't go below what he was asked to sell it for.
Yeah the 50,000 units sold came from some site I couldn't find again when I searched for the emulator and roms. But yeah Wikipedia says it too. Either they got their information from Wikipedia or the information could be right. I hope there were actually 50,000 units and not 10,000. I know on www.ultimateconsoledatabase.com that guy said he was willing to trade his extra car for one of those.
I'm trying to buy one of these, but I don't think I want this one. I would rather buy one from someone on here who is more reliable and well known as a good seller. Anything that has its own screen needs to be guaranteed if being mailed. I ordered a Vectrex once that worked fine before it was shipped. When it got here, magnetism had damaged it. It probably traveled next to an order of large speakers. But that was $100. I can't imagine wasting over $1000 on a situation like that since he doesn't except returns.
I'm hoping there will be someone out there who will part with theirs if I save up enough money toward it.
EDIT: Here's another site saying 50,000 http://www.miniarcade.com/entex/av.htm
and here's the footnote that shows where the information came from
^ Forster, Winnie (2005). The encyclopedia of consoles, handhelds & home computers 1972 - 2005. GAMEPLAN. p. 53. ISBN 3-00-015359-4.
98PaceCar
01-01-2009, 09:07 PM
When I first talked to this seller, he said he got it for $500. Then later he said he was selling it for someone else so he couldn't go below what he was asked to sell it for.
Yeah the 50,000 units sold came from some site I couldn't find again when I searched for the emulator and roms. But yeah Wikipedia says it too. Either they got their information from Wikipedia or the information could be right. I hope there were actually 50,000 units and not 10,000. I know on www.ultimateconsoledatabase.com that guy said he was willing to trade his extra car for one of those.
I'm trying to buy one of these, but I don't think I want this one. I would rather buy one from someone on here who is more reliable and well known as a good seller. Anything that has its own screen needs to be guaranteed if being mailed. I ordered a Vectrex once that worked fine before it was shipped. When it got here, magnetism had damaged it. It probably traveled next to an order of large speakers. But that was $100. I can't imagine wasting over $1000 on a situation like that since he doesn't except returns.
I'm hoping there will be someone out there who will part with theirs if I save up enough money toward it.
EDIT: Here's another site saying 50,000 http://www.miniarcade.com/entex/av.htm
and here's the footnote that shows where the information came from
^ Forster, Winnie (2005). The encyclopedia of consoles, handhelds & home computers 1972 - 2005. GAMEPLAN. p. 53. ISBN 3-00-015359-4.
Honestly, buying from another collector would be the best thing you could do on something like this. They are extremely fragile and it would be a shame to have one destroyed because of poor packing. I'd be hesitant just due to the guys low feedback score and the myriad of stories that already surround this particular auction.
Keep your eyes open, they do show up from time to time. I dont think you will get the deal you are after, but if you are persistant you will find a good one. You might check with the guy that runs www.adventurevision.com . I've dealt with him on a few occasions and he is top notch.
Thanks for the footnote. I think I have that book, so I'll need to check it out a bit further.
y-bot
01-02-2009, 12:23 AM
How much are the games worth? Let's say the system is worth $850 loose. Certainly, three games won't add on an extra $1,700. Either you got lucky and they waaaaaaay overbid, or that was just 1998 being 1998. I think people are waking up that this system is not uber-rare. At least 50,000 were made, it was in major stores, even advertized in magazines. There are systems out there far more rare an unheard of. Today, it doesn't go for much more than $650 loose in great condition.
It was definitely a combination of it being 1998, a crazy buyer ("sspacewalk" for the RGVC old-timers) and the fact that one had been bid up to some crazy price ($10,000 or so I think) by fake bidders a few weeks before I got mine. I still think it's an $800-$1200 item like others have said. The $640 price on that auction doesn't mean anything since the reserve wasn't met. Also if you are going to try and collect all the games I think you are either going to have to wait until someone is selling one with all the games or end up buying multiple systems with games over the years until you get a set. I've never seen anyone buying the games separately. When you finish your US collection and want to buy a ColorVision system let me know. I have a loose console and a few games for sale. I've seen far fewer of them than Adventurevision consoles but nobody knows about it so it's worth a fraction of the price.
y-bot
Rickstilwell1
01-02-2009, 06:05 AM
Thanks for the Adventurevision.com link. The guy there said he wouldn't pay $1000 for it either. He told me I ought to be patient and wait until he points me to a deal.
There's a big difference between the high bid and what it will actually sell for. Right after Christmas in a down market is probably the worst time possible to sell something like this, so it may go a bit lower than normal. But, a lot of folks won't bid on something until the reserve is hit. So at that point, all bets are off. Someone may get lucky and get a deal on this, but somehow I think the real collectors will come out if it's going that low and the price will be pushed right back where it normally is.
Also realize that a seller with 3 feedback does not instill much confidence in buyers. He might also help his cause if he was using his own auction text, but I can assure you he is not (I'm the author of the text he copied from VGCL).
Can you provide a link showing that it was 50,000 made and not 10,000? Edit: Did a bit of research on this. Looks like wikipedia has struck again. The numbers I found while researching for my review were 10,000. I'd like to know where the 50,000 number came from, but my guess is there is no way of knowing. If it really were 50,000 instead of 10,000, they would be found much more often though.
Well, I have seen the 50,000 number quite often on the web, and also in the book The Encyclopedia of Game Machines.
We'll see what it goes for. I may make a bid, I'm undecided right now.
It was definitely a combination of it being 1998, a crazy buyer ("sspacewalk" for the RGVC old-timers) and the fact that one had been bid up to some crazy price ($10,000 or so I think) by fake bidders a few weeks before I got mine. I still think it's an $800-$1200 item like others have said. The $640 price on that auction doesn't mean anything since the reserve wasn't met. Also if you are going to try and collect all the games I think you are either going to have to wait until someone is selling one with all the games or end up buying multiple systems with games over the years until you get a set. I've never seen anyone buying the games separately. When you finish your US collection and want to buy a ColorVision system let me know. I have a loose console and a few games for sale. I've seen far fewer of them than Adventurevision consoles but nobody knows about it so it's worth a fraction of the price.
y-bot
Oh, I know the Colorvision, but I know very few do. It is quite rare, but less expensive because no one knows about it. Just curious, how much are you selling just the console for?
jeffg
01-03-2009, 08:31 PM
that adventure vision on craiglist is in my home town. I will be ticked if he found it at any of the local flea markets or garage sales that I missed out on.
y-bot
01-03-2009, 11:43 PM
Oh, I know the Colorvision, but I know very few do. It is quite rare, but less expensive because no one knows about it. Just curious, how much are you selling just the console for?
I'm asking $400 for the console and 4 games. One game doesn't work and I don't remember which one. Part of the game is missing. The person I bought it from did not disclose this. I believe this is a picture of the console that I own that a previous owner posted online:
http://www.pelikonepeijoonit.net/Romtec-Colorvision.jpg
y-bot
Rickstilwell1
01-09-2009, 02:31 PM
Somebody bought it for $900 something and this time there wasn't a reserve. Like the adventurevison.com guy said, that's kind of a high price for that.
Just hopefully the winning bidder is lucky and it arrives at their place in good condition. One time I bought a Vectrex and it got magnetized in the mail. Now I need to find out how to degauss the screen.
Somebody bought it for $900 something and this time there wasn't a reserve. Like the adventurevison.com guy said, that's kind of a high price for that.
Just hopefully the winning bidder is lucky and it arrives at their place in good condition. One time I bought a Vectrex and it got magnetized in the mail. Now I need to find out how to degauss the screen.
Yeah, $961. I was gonna bid but decided against it. Not worth it IMO.
98PaceCar
01-09-2009, 02:58 PM
Somebody bought it for $900 something and this time there wasn't a reserve. Like the adventurevison.com guy said, that's kind of a high price for that.
Just hopefully the winning bidder is lucky and it arrives at their place in good condition. One time I bought a Vectrex and it got magnetized in the mail. Now I need to find out how to degauss the screen.
There's a way to do it with a soldering gun (not an iron, but the gun style). Google around, but if you can't find it let me know and I'll see if I still have the directions.
The $961 may be a touch high in today's market, but this is a system that will continue to command good money. The demand far outstrips the supply in this case. There's not much more out there (at least if you are talking released US hardware) that's rarer.
There's a way to do it with a soldering gun (not an iron, but the gun style). Google around, but if you can't find it let me know and I'll see if I still have the directions.
The $961 may be a touch high in today's market, but this is a system that will continue to command good money. The demand far outstrips the supply in this case. There's not much more out there (at least if you are talking released US hardware) that's rarer.
Bandai Pippin?
98PaceCar
01-10-2009, 06:35 PM
Bandai Pippin?
Hmmm, it certainly seems possible. I did have a harder time finding a US Pippin than I did Adventurevision. Though it's hard for me to judge as I've kept watching AV sales, but haven't looked at Pippin sales since I got mine.
I will say that the US Pippin is very tough to get. I still need to find some US released software at some point.
Hmmm, it certainly seems possible. I did have a harder time finding a US Pippin than I did Adventurevision. Though it's hard for me to judge as I've kept watching AV sales, but haven't looked at Pippin sales since I got mine.
I will say that the US Pippin is very tough to get. I still need to find some US released software at some point.
You're one of the guys here with the Halcyon, right? I'd put that as far and away the rarest, but I guess that doesn't count because it apparently was never released.
Are you familiar with the Colorvision? That might be rarer, but it wasn't a US system. The Select-A-Game also seems extremely rare.
The problem with the Adventurevision is I am unsure if the sales were 50,000 or 10,000. Doing a search, I see both numbers quoted pretty equally.
Tupin
01-10-2009, 07:20 PM
You're one of the guys here with the Halcyon, right? I'd put that as far and away the rarest, but I guess that doesn't count because it apparently was never released.
Are you familiar with the Colorvision? That might be rarer, but it wasn't a US system. The Select-A-Game also seems extremely rare.
The problem with the Adventurevision is I am unsure if the sales were 50,000 or 10,000. Doing a search, I see both numbers quoted pretty equally.
I always thought the Halcyon WAS released, but since it was so expensive and only had two games, no stores had them.
I always thought the Halcyon WAS released, but since it was so expensive and only had two games, no stores had them.
If not one store carries it, does it count as an official release?
Tupin
01-10-2009, 08:23 PM
If not one store carries it, does it count as an official release?
Yeah, I did hear about it being released only to investors.
Yeah, I did hear about it being released only to investors.
Suppose you weren't an investor, but had the money to buy one in 1985. Could you obtain one?
Tupin
01-10-2009, 09:59 PM
Suppose you weren't an investor, but had the money to buy one in 1985. Could you obtain one?
Probably if you contacted RDI directly.
Buyatari
01-10-2009, 10:22 PM
Probably if you contacted RDI directly.
I'm not sure I'd call that released. But does it really matter? Released or not we all want it !!
98PaceCar
01-10-2009, 10:26 PM
You're one of the guys here with the Halcyon, right? I'd put that as far and away the rarest, but I guess that doesn't count because it apparently was never released.
Are you familiar with the Colorvision? That might be rarer, but it wasn't a US system. The Select-A-Game also seems extremely rare.
The problem with the Adventurevision is I am unsure if the sales were 50,000 or 10,000. Doing a search, I see both numbers quoted pretty equally.
Yea, I have a Halcyon. I think only 2 of us here do, but there may be others that are keeping it quiet. It rates up there with the rarest of the rare, but without a definite answer as to whether it actually sold or not it's hard to count as a part of the US release list. I've heard stories to support both side of the release argument. Regardless, it's cool to own as most folks don't even know it really exists.
I've run across a few folks with the Colorvision and played it at one of the CGE's a few years back. Not too bad to play and definitely obscure. I still need to grab one myself at some point, but I've been focusing on some of the rarer Japanese stuff lately and letting Europe slip a bit.
The Select-A-Game is a weird one. I know it's rare, but I see it on a fairly regular basis. Slightly more often than Adventurevisions. What's rare to find is one that has the battery covers still. Those seem to be like hen's teeth!
Tupin
01-10-2009, 10:28 PM
I'm not sure I'd call that released. But does it really matter? Released or not we all want it !!
d0 yOu WaNT to pLEY...... ThEYAr's KwEsT?
http://www.archive.org/details/Lasersan1985
AI on par with HAL, my foot. LOL