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PapaStu
04-18-2009, 03:26 PM
I might try that - thanks. My box has been flaky in the past (I get "cannot read disc" errors on brand new games for example. It's almost like they have to get worked in sadly).

If you're getting that then its the disc drive shitting out. It has problems trying to load stuff and will freeze (especially in heavy load games like Fallout 3). The RRoD was probably a by-product of the drive issues your box is experiencing. (I've had 2 drives shit out on me, that sounds like whats happening to you). Once you see the white screen with the Please insert an Xbox disc in 6 languages the drive is done for and its time to call MS.

Nature Boy
04-20-2009, 10:45 AM
If you're getting that then its the disc drive shitting out. It has problems trying to load stuff and will freeze (especially in heavy load games like Fallout 3). The RRoD was probably a by-product of the drive issues your box is experiencing. (I've had 2 drives shit out on me, that sounds like whats happening to you). Once you see the white screen with the Please insert an Xbox disc in 6 languages the drive is done for and its time to call MS.

Yup, that pretty much describes it. I got that "Xbox Disc" thing a few times with Left 4 Dead - my Xbox kept trying to tell me that it was a DVD I was inserting.

jcalder8
04-20-2009, 02:04 PM
It took about 2 and a half weeks all told but I've got a "brand new" refurbished one from MS and I have to say the whole process was quick and mostly painless, apart from Purolator's stupidity.

YoshiM
04-27-2009, 10:56 PM
Well, I got my 360 back and noticed that it was my machine! Inside was a note stating that it was not repaired because of [insert list of possibilities here]. So I called the 800 and talked to a rep and found that the reason it wasn't repaired was because it was "modified". I explained that it was probably because the case was painted but that I had spoken to someone at the service center before and that it was "all right". Apparently not.

Oh well, I still had fun with the 360. Just a bit miffed at MS for telling me one thing but doing another. Don't know if I'll get another system as I've got the "fear" that it's just going to up and die on me in a short period of time.

I'll be selling a bunch of stuff in the Buying and Selling forums so I'll be including my Xbox 360 stuff on there.

Nature Boy
04-30-2009, 11:34 AM
We all know that the 360 has left many gamers with bad feelings towards Microsoft. The big question is whether those same gamers are going to be first in line with their $500 when Microsoft launches their next console? My money's on the fact that they will be, and Microsoft is most certainly counting on it.

You can definitely put me in the NOT gonna be there day one list.

I love my 360 console - the games, the XBL experience, achievements. But I did not enjoy the experience of waiting for it to break down, once I knew I was headed there.

If there is even a glimmer of possibility that their next console is anything but perfectly reliable I'll stay away, at least until they get it all worked out - possibly for the whole gen if I like what PS4 brings to the table.

Having said that, my warranty claim has gone pretty smoothly and that's to their credit. It took 6 business days for me to receive the shipping box, but only two days after that to get notified (a) they received it, (b) they had fixed (replaced) it, and (c) it was being sent back to me. (a)-(c) was a 2 hour span just this morning.

The bummer is that it's now been almost two full weeks since I was able to play Fallout 3, let alone download the new free update to Left 4 Dead!

NESGamer24
04-30-2009, 12:04 PM
Got my 360 on Launch Day. About 2 Mays later (so about a year and 6 months later) when I got home from college I started getting the red ring of death a lot. So I call up support (this was before they made the announcement about the extended warranty.

The tech support guy tells me "I have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is your warranty expired 3 days ago. The good news is we have a policy that if you call within 7 days of your warranty expiring we will still honor your original warranty."

So I got mine fixed for free and I havent had any problems with the referbished model they sent me and that was a few years ago now. *crossed fingers*

Nature Boy, they were like that with mine as well. Took a few days to get the box but once they recieved it they shipped out a replacement that day. In due time you will be killing mutants and working on your karma.

Nature Boy
05-04-2009, 12:21 PM
MS definitely gets good marks for being fast with the turnaround. I think it's funny that it took 10 business days total before I got it back, and 6 of those were for receiving the shipping box.

I'm also encouraged by how much more *quiet* my replacement box is. My old one sounded like an airplane taking off. This new one I can barely here.

The first thing I did was fire up Fallout 3 again, and sell those "Scrap Metal" pieces I had set aside for Walter for the 60 caps and 37 EXP I was excited about 2.5 weeks ago. Then I turned it off since I'm at work and all, but I had to have closure :)

hellfire
05-06-2009, 05:18 PM
mine broke a few weeks ago

The 1 2 P
05-06-2009, 08:41 PM
If mine ever dies on me I'm going to kill it.

Streetball 21
07-17-2009, 12:46 AM
So I'm going to bump up this thread since it is related to my question. Has anyone gotten refunded for repair costs for the E74 error? I paid for mine back in March, and they had no problems taking my payment. Now for the refund, the website says if you dont receive anything by July 1, 2009, to submit a claim form. There is nowhere on the website where you can do that, unless I'm missing it. So I call today, and they said now I have to wait till the end of July. I did tell the rep that the website clearly says July 1, and they need to change that. I have a feeling they are in no rush to refund my $100.00. So anyone else going thru this crap?

Therealqtip
07-17-2009, 01:58 AM
yeah wish microsoft would stop sucking at shit they do, Come on sony we need you to get better games and better online.

carlcarlson
07-17-2009, 09:46 AM
I got a RRoD of sorts on Sunday. I was playing a game when I got a phonecall. I exited to the dashboard but left the system on while I talked. Apparently the power went out while I was on the phone because when I came back the system was off and my clocks were blinking. When I turned the system back on it immediately went to three red lights and wouldn't show any picture or eject my disk. I turned it off and on a couple times and got the same results. I noticed that the light on the power brick was also red, so I unplugged everything and then set it back up. Now it works.

Was this an actual RRoD or more of a "your system did not shut down properly" error?

Zing
07-17-2009, 11:58 AM
Go outside. Read a book.

This is fucking stupid. If he wanted to go outside or read a book (ignoring the fact that humans are capable of doing these things in addition to playing video games), then he wouldn't have bought a video game console in the first place.

ProgrammingAce
07-17-2009, 12:14 PM
I got a RRoD of sorts on Sunday. I was playing a game when I got a phonecall. I exited to the dashboard but left the system on while I talked. Apparently the power went out while I was on the phone because when I came back the system was off and my clocks were blinking. When I turned the system back on it immediately went to three red lights and wouldn't show any picture or eject my disk. I turned it off and on a couple times and got the same results. I noticed that the light on the power brick was also red, so I unplugged everything and then set it back up. Now it works.

Was this an actual RRoD or more of a "your system did not shut down properly" error?

You had a power surge that tripped the breaker inside the power brick. You should have that thing hooked up to a surge suppressor.

carlcarlson
07-17-2009, 01:10 PM
You had a power surge that tripped the breaker inside the power brick. You should have that thing hooked up to a surge suppressor.

Cool, that's what I figured. The system actually is running through a surge suppressor, but I guess it didn't quite cut it this time.

Leo_A
07-17-2009, 03:01 PM
You had a power surge that tripped the breaker inside the power brick. You should have that thing hooked up to a surge suppressor.

Your employer recommends against doing that.

Frankie_Says_Relax
07-17-2009, 03:16 PM
The sad truth is that "surge protectors" while good, aren't any guarantee that things like this won't happen.

If you had what you described as a power OUTAGE, you likely didn't have a spike or a surge at all, in fact, it was probably the browning of the power either prior to or directly after the "outage" that caused (and typically causes) the most damage.

In my experience brown outs do more damage than black outs and "power supply/regulating" devices like the XBOX360 power brick can be damaged the MOST by "choking" the live power that it's pulling from the wall current.

Unfortunately surge protectors don't help with that ... that would be a job for a Backup Power Supply.

Though, it's good to hear that the 360 power brick can automatically protect against that and can be reset ... but I'd venture to guess that multiple brown outs could permanently choke it out.

The 1 2 P
07-17-2009, 06:27 PM
The sad truth is that "surge protectors" while good, aren't any guarantee that things like this won't happen.

Perhaps but it's better than nothing.

BobaFettHotep
07-17-2009, 07:32 PM
my 360 died yesterday :(

duffmanth
07-17-2009, 08:46 PM
Yet more evidence of what a pile of shit the 360 is!

R.Sakai
09-14-2009, 01:44 PM
My Elite, built in Aug 07, bought in Nov 07, died yesterday.

Has had nowhere near the amount of hours I've put into other consoles that still run to this day. It's always been treated nicely, and well ventilated.

I'm really fucking dissapointed in this thing, for a system that was $550 + $100 wireless adapter, bought for the $10 Space Giraffe, to have not lasted two years even, is really fucking unacceptable.

The 1 2 P
09-14-2009, 08:32 PM
My Elite, built in Aug 07, bought in Nov 07, died yesterday.

Has had nowhere near the amount of hours I've put into other consoles that still run to this day. It's always been treated nicely, and well ventilated.

I'm really fucking dissapointed in this thing, for a system that was $550 + $100 wireless adapter, bought for the $10 Space Giraffe, to have not lasted two years even, is really fucking unacceptable.

That sucks man but atleast Microsoft will fix it for free because it's still under warranty.

Sonicwolf
09-14-2009, 09:48 PM
I cant imagine how hard it will be to find a good working 360 in twenty years. So many just break for no good reason.

Mr Mort
09-14-2009, 09:57 PM
Well, it finally happened. My launch-day 360 finally RROD'ed out of the blue last Saturday. Caught me off guard. Of course it's out of warranty, I checked.

I'm not that bitter about it tho, I knew it was only a matter of time. I had actually bought a backup 360 while back in anticipation. Besides, my new one is so much more quiet than the old one it's ridiculous. You can hardly hear it. The old one roared like a jet engine even with no disc in the tray.

stonecutter
09-15-2009, 02:39 AM
I am pleased to report my third RROD, this time on my Elite with a built date of 2008/1/28

I can say that i wont be supporting the next MS system, they can shove it up their ass. If it wasn't for all the money spent on DLC for RB etc, I would gladly sell all the MS crap and go to PS3, and I despise Sony. I have 2 360 and I am in a vicious cycle of RROD, shame on me for getting into this mess.

Ed Oscuro
09-15-2009, 02:50 AM
I can say that i wont be supporting the next MS system, they can shove it up their ass.
Actually, I'm just waiting for the next system to come out and get (hopefully) rave reliability reviews, and hopefully have BC. Otherwise there's always late-late-LATE model 360s to get and hope will stick around :p

R.Sakai
09-15-2009, 03:14 AM
That sucks man but atleast Microsoft will fix it for free because it's still under warranty.

Yeah, I was a pretty pissed off guy when the first thing I saw when logging in to their support site was a red dot and a "warranty expired", felt much better when I saw the deal about it being 3 years if it red rings, fixed for free.

My biggest worry was what happens to my XBL games. Most everything I've read and heard from guys I know is the license transfers usually work great. I still play my copy of Tempest 2K, and in 14 years, I'm pretty sure I'll still want to play Space Giraffe.

I can't say though, that I wouldn't go for another MS system, since even though my original Xbox was a launch unit that had it's HDD lock after 3 or 4 years, I honestly played that thing into the ground. And my overall experience with the 360 has been a good one. But not even two years into this premium priced "Elite" console and it up and dies hopping into a game of 1 vs 100?, yeaaah, that's inexcusable.

Streetball 21
11-03-2009, 12:24 AM
So here we are in November (my last post about this was around March or April), and no refund for my repair costs yet. After calling in last night, they finally said someone would call me back and after they "verified some info". Apparently November 1, 2009 was the deadline to submit a claim, so I called right on time. Even though I repeatedly tried to submit the claim numerous times months before, I was denied and said it would come in the mail which it never did.

So I get a call tonight saying my refund is in my account immediately. Which it is not, but according to my bank it may take a couple of days to get my refund. I'm still not confident I'm going to see my refund. Sorry to vent, but after being given the run around, and then having to repeat myself 5-6 times to each rep I speak to, its just ridiculous.

Streetball 21
11-04-2009, 09:15 PM
Wow, so in a weird turn of events, I ended up getting my refund this morning. I really believe Microsoft turned me away numerous times throughout the year so I would either forget or miss the deadline, which I almost did. Oh well, its over. I nearly got rid of my XBOX because of this. I just hope I dont have any more issues with Microsoft in the future.

Sniderman
11-05-2009, 05:29 PM
I just hope I dont have any more issues with Microsoft in the future.The fact that you're willing to continue to give money to them after all of this just floors the shit out of me.

Zing
11-16-2009, 01:22 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Gozer
12-29-2009, 10:02 PM
I've had my 360 since Christmas of 07. I just got the RRoD.

It was bound to happen at some point I suppose.

GameBoyGeek
12-29-2009, 10:14 PM
I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return to forth/with to your place of origin or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension.

Ya know its a sad state in gaming where when you go to buy a system of any kind you already know ahead of time that its gonna break down and that there is pretty much nothing you can do to stop it from happening....Its total bull shit and didnt always used to be like that. Ive had my NES for 22 years and it still works with only needing to replace the pin connector which i did about 8 years ago.

The 1 2 P
12-31-2009, 04:39 PM
Ya know its a sad state in gaming where when you go to buy a system of any kind you already know ahead of time that its gonna break down and that there is pretty much nothing you can do to stop it from happening....Its total bull shit and didnt always used to be like that.

I agree. Thats why I waited so long to get a Jasper chip 360. I've been on XBL for several years(with my original Xbox) and some of my friends who took the early plunge learned the hard way that getting the first batch of a new system isn't always a good idea.


Ive had my NES for 22 years and it still works with only needing to replace the pin connector which i did about 8 years ago.

Actually, out of my 20+ systems, my original Nes is the only one that ever broke down. I even have a GB pocket and Game Gear that still work.

Oobgarm
01-11-2010, 09:32 PM
Bought my Resident Evil 5 Elite on launch day.

Three days ago, it decided that it wouldn't read discs. No errors or anything, it would just say "open tray" on the dashboard. Tried a bunch of different games in it, no luck. A call to Xbox support told me that it needed a repair, and the guy told me I could process it online(which I was OK with since his English was awful). I was gonna wait till Monday toprint out a shipping label at work since I have no printer at home. The next day, I tried it again and it started working somehow.

Over the course of the next couple days, the game would stutter when people would come online, especially noticeable in games like Forza 3. It seemed like online lag. Just shrugged it off, at least the console still worked.

Go to power it up today, and all I get is the light in the center, no outer rings and controllers won't sync. No picture on the screen. So I just sent off for the coffin, and I'm displeased. Almost decided to sell all my 360 stuff off but I've spent so much on XBLA titles and have 1.5 years of paid Live service, I couldn't do it.

So now, we wait. Good thing I had 2 MONTHS left on my warranty.

megasdkirby
01-11-2010, 09:34 PM
So now, we wait. Good thing I had 2 MONTHS left on my warranty.

That's good to hear.

Will you demand to get the same unit back, or would you prefer a new refurb?

I would request the same console, though. Could care less if the innards change, just as long it had the same casing.

kupomogli
01-11-2010, 09:53 PM
So now, we wait. Good thing I had 2 MONTHS left on my warranty.

What happens when you get the new 360 back and somewhere after two months from now the new 360 dies? That's what I was afraid of and just sold my console early. If you want a 360, I'd suggest once you get the new one back, sell it off since it's still working then pick up a new arcade unit and keep your same hdd.

Oobgarm
01-11-2010, 10:02 PM
That's good to hear.

Will you demand to get the same unit back, or would you prefer a new refurb?

I would request the same console, though. Could care less if the innards change, just as long it had the same casing.

Yeah, I'll be sure to get at least the red casing back. It was one of the reasons I bought it in the first place.


What happens when you get the new 360 back and somewhere after two months from now the new 360 dies? That's what I was afraid of and just sold my console early. If you want a 360, I'd suggest once you get the new one back, sell it off since it's still working then pick up a new arcade unit and keep your same hdd.

Well I have 90 days from that point so I think I'd just go through the process again. I don't want to sell off my LE console, too much money spent on it as is.

duffmanth
01-12-2010, 04:05 PM
What happens when you get the new 360 back and somewhere after two months from now the new 360 dies? That's what I was afraid of and just sold my console early. If you want a 360, I'd suggest once you get the new one back, sell it off since it's still working then pick up a new arcade unit and keep your same hdd.

Why people continue with the hassle of constantly replacing this piece of shit system is completely mind boggling to me?! They must either love the thing or have unlimited patience? If it fucked up on me more than once, that would be where I would draw the line. It's not right when someone who plunks down $300 on a 360 has to worry about not if, but when the thing will die on them.

Oobgarm
01-12-2010, 11:06 PM
If you've spent a good amount of money on XBLA stuff and games, why let it all go to waste and get maybe 30% back on selling the physical media? I considered it but realized it wasn't a good idea. Just because you're pissed off doesn't mean everyone should share your viewpoint.

stonecutter
01-12-2010, 11:45 PM
Agreed Oobgarm. I had the same considerations and didn't for the same reason. I thought of how much it would cost to get going on a PS3 as well, which I don't have, the cost of that and replacing what I have, or want to replace on XBOX was just too much.

s1lence
01-13-2010, 09:37 AM
Agreed Oobgarm. I had the same considerations and didn't for the same reason. I thought of how much it would cost to get going on a PS3 as well, which I don't have, the cost of that and replacing what I have, or want to replace on XBOX was just too much.

Exactly the reason why I put up with it.....though I think I'm a bit more deep in the the 360 then most.

PapaStu
01-13-2010, 12:04 PM
Exactly the reason why I put up with it.....though I think I'm a bit more deep in the the 360 then most.


Ya think? Mr. 179,629 gs. :P

Shadow Kisuragi
01-13-2010, 12:36 PM
Ya think? Mr. 179,629 gs. :P

Meh. 179k is nothing. I've had friends restart accounts after reaching 200k and they've almost passed me up again at 121k. He's not devoted to the console - he's devoted to the gamerscore system. Xbox Live Anywhere would make him a walking zombie :)

I also agree on DLC being a reason not to ditch the console. Although, you can always sell the profile with all of the licenses and try to make some of it back, but you'll never make anywhere near what it's worth back.

PapaStu
01-13-2010, 03:33 PM
Meh. 179k is nothing. I've had friends restart accounts after reaching 200k and they've almost passed me up again at 121k. He's not devoted to the console - he's devoted to the gamerscore system. Xbox Live Anywhere would make him a walking zombie :)



Actually not true. s1lence there is quite devoted to the sytem in general. He's got more 360 games than I do PS2 games (450+), not to mention PAL, NTSC-J systems and additional US 360's hooked up around his house.

megasdkirby
01-13-2010, 03:41 PM
If you've spent a good amount of money on XBLA stuff and games, why let it all go to waste and get maybe 30% back on selling the physical media? I considered it but realized it wasn't a good idea. Just because you're pissed off doesn't mean everyone should share your viewpoint.

I would not get rid of it, but I would not give it the same level or priority that I used to.

I would get the PS3 and still retain the Xbox 360. We (most of us) are collectors anyway, so owning the console is part of what we like to do (collect).

With another console, I would just prioritize that console over the previous one that gave me problems. For instance, if a game I want comes out on both, I would get it on the console I know would be most "stable". Exclusives are another issue, as each will have it's own fantastic exclusives that I would get anyway.

A similar event happened to me with the Dreamcast many years ago. It was still fairly new when it died on me in the middle of playing Grandia II. It left a very sour taste in my mouth (the overall experience) and even though I did not hate the console (kept purchasing games afterwards), the priority I had for it dissipated with time. I would get the games that were available as multiplatform on the competitors system (usually the PSOne, even if it was graphically inferior) because I knew it was stable (at least for me, as I've never had a PSOne console die on me). But exclusives, like Illbleed and Skies of Arcadia (at the time) I would get for the Dreamcast. And I would still love playing the console.

From that point onward, I would get the most "stable" platform first. I would get the most games for that console and the exclusives on the other consoles. Sure, having more consoles equates wasting more money, but it's a hobby I know many of us enjoy.

The 1 2 P
01-13-2010, 07:00 PM
Bought my Resident Evil 5 Elite on launch day.

Three days ago, it decided that it wouldn't read discs. No errors or anything, it would just say "open tray" on the dashboard. Tried a bunch of different games in it, no luck. A call to Xbox support told me that it needed a repair, and the guy told me I could process it online(which I was OK with since his English was awful). I was gonna wait till Monday toprint out a shipping label at work since I have no printer at home. The next day, I tried it again and it started working somehow.

Over the course of the next couple days, the game would stutter when people would come online, especially noticeable in games like Forza 3. It seemed like online lag. Just shrugged it off, at least the console still worked.

Go to power it up today, and all I get is the light in the center, no outer rings and controllers won't sync. No picture on the screen. So I just sent off for the coffin, and I'm displeased. Almost decided to sell all my 360 stuff off but I've spent so much on XBLA titles and have 1.5 years of paid Live service, I couldn't do it.

So now, we wait. Good thing I had 2 MONTHS left on my warranty.

Was it a Jasper chip 360?

Oobgarm
01-13-2010, 09:59 PM
It was manufactured January 2009, if that helps. I honestly have no idea.

s1lence
01-13-2010, 11:25 PM
Meh. 179k is nothing. I've had friends restart accounts after reaching 200k and they've almost passed me up again at 121k. He's not devoted to the console - he's devoted to the gamerscore system. Xbox Live Anywhere would make him a walking zombie :)

I also agree on DLC being a reason not to ditch the console. Although, you can always sell the profile with all of the licenses and try to make some of it back, but you'll never make anywhere near what it's worth back.

No, I'm quite devoted. I track all the releases, every region. Catalog each one and obtain the title in question. I own 6 systems, 4 us, 1 japanese and 1 PAL system.

200k IS a big deal. Why would some one "restart" an account unless they cheated/hexed/glitched/gamesaved etc etc etc.

Yes I like gamerscore, but I really am into the 360.

swlovinist
01-13-2010, 11:37 PM
I agree. Thats why I waited so long to get a Jasper chip 360. I've been on XBL for several years(with my original Xbox) and some of my friends who took the early plunge learned the hard way that getting the first batch of a new system isn't always a good idea.

Ironically enough, I have a "first batch" system(won and received it two days prior to launch) and it still works fine(minus HDMI cable slot). I feel for all those who have had to replace their system.

megasdkirby
01-14-2010, 07:19 AM
Question I need to ask, as it seems to be something I've been noticing with dead Xbox 360's.

How many hours a day, in a row, is the console being played? If it's, for example, six hours a day, at what intervals? Three hours in a row? Two hours in a row?

I am asking because I notice that friends that have X360's but play no longer than an hour and a half, then rest for over an hour (cool down the system) has had their console last years...many even still having their original launch unit. Others that play frequently, leave the console on hours at a time, at some point die out (usually in less than a year).

Yes, I've seen flukes (like that new X360 that RROD right out of the box when I did the exchange for the customer), but this is not the norm.

Because if it's due to heavy use, I will more inclined in getting an X360 sooner, since I am a person that does not use the console for more an two hours at a time. After that, I complete turn off the console, making sure there is no electricity flow in the system (unplug it).

Oobgarm
01-14-2010, 08:25 AM
Mine saw sporadic use. Couple hours a day at most, maybe a couple days at a time.

s1lence
01-14-2010, 08:50 AM
Question I need to ask, as it seems to be something I've been noticing with dead Xbox 360's.

How many hours a day, in a row, is the console being played? If it's, for example, six hours a day, at what intervals? Three hours in a row? Two hours in a row?

I am asking because I notice that friends that have X360's but play no longer than an hour and a half, then rest for over an hour (cool down the system) has had their console last years...many even still having their original launch unit. Others that play frequently, leave the console on hours at a time, at some point die out (usually in less than a year).

Yes, I've seen flukes (like that new X360 that RROD right out of the box when I did the exchange for the customer), but this is not the norm.

Because if it's due to heavy use, I will more inclined in getting an X360 sooner, since I am a person that does not use the console for more an two hours at a time. After that, I complete turn off the console, making sure there is no electricity flow in the system (unplug it).

Some of my systems like my PAL system I only use a couple of hours a month, unless I'm really working on a specific title. My US systems will sit on for hours and hours and they still keep going. I don't unplug them either when they are not in use. I do have them in a open stand so they get good air flow. I have only had ONE system RRoD on me and ONE E74 on me. The E74 error happened to me almost 2 years ago on a system that was a month old. I have had one that was pulled off of a shelf by a 2 year old and most recently I had one that wouldn't load a retail game, XBLA works fine on it so I still use it.

stonecutter
01-14-2010, 09:33 AM
I have had 3 systems RROD on me, my systems get good use. Played every day, not uncommon to have sessions of 4+ hrs, and as high as 8 hrs. Often these extended sessions are not broken up. It may consist of my son playing x hrs and then me playing after him etc, but it does get lots of use.

megasdkirby
01-14-2010, 09:45 AM
I have only had ONE system RRoD on me and ONE E74 on me. The E74 error happened to me almost 2 years ago on a system that was a month old.

Yes, but did that particular unit (E74 unit) given heavy play during that period? For example, was it played for hours straight? Three hours in a row? Four hours in a row?

What about the RROD unit? Was it played heavily? Lot's of use? Nonstop use?

Oobgarm, you mentioned it had sporadic use. Usually, how many hours in a row would you play it when you did? Two hours at once? Three hours in a row?

s1lence
01-14-2010, 10:47 AM
Both the ones I had fail had heavy use. The RR0D system had VERY heavy use, basically non-stop especially when I was unemployeed.

Oobgarm
01-14-2010, 12:44 PM
Maybe 2 hours at a time tops. The only times it saw more use than that is when Modern Warfare 2 and Forza 3 came out, then it was played/turned on for 4+ hours at a time on weekends.

Vectorman0
01-14-2010, 12:53 PM
I have been under the impression that the widespread RROD issue caused by solder cracking is more likely to occur the more times your system is cycled from being on and fully heated up to cooled down to normal.

duffmanth
01-14-2010, 07:33 PM
I think it's possible that given how popular Xbox Live is, that would increase play time among most gamers and might contribute to some heavily played 360's crapping out.

megasdkirby
01-14-2010, 07:42 PM
I have been under the impression that the widespread RROD issue caused by solder cracking is more likely to occur the more times your system is cycled from being on and fully heated up to cooled down to normal.

There is that possibility, but also if heat is not being eliminated correctly from the system (due to any reason), this heat accumulates, increasing the temperature inside the unit. This heat can be so much that it starts melting the solder.

Case example: my friends PS3 60GB model. He was playing Uncharted 2 for a few hours, then after he finished, he immediately started playing a BluRay, and an hour later, the console turned itself off. When he turned it back up, he got the YLOD, which is basically similar to the RROD.

suckerpunch5
02-13-2010, 10:10 PM
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

My Halo 3 Limited Edition console! How could you leave me like this? All alone, and with so much gaming still out there. I should have seen it coming, I suppose. Bioshock 2 just came out. Yeah, we had some good times with Halo 3, but then things got a little rocky when Halo Wars came out.

Looking back, it was probably my fault. Maybe my comparisons to Dune 2000 weren't as funny as I thought they were. I dunno. We tried it, sure, but we never could recapture the magic. Did I spend a lot of time with the original Bioshock? Yeah. Of course. But who didn't? It just seemed so exciting the first time, and, I dunno. . . I kept playing. Ok, yes, I kept playing, but can you blame me? Its not like it was serious. Just a fling, while I waited for ODST.

I don't even know why I'm posting this. Moral support? Someone to tell me its not my fault? Maybe. Maybe not. In retrospect, I see more clearly though. Everything I wanted, I had. You let me get the Battlestar Gallactica premium theme. Nothing hardcore, just a few high def renders of vipers. All very tastefull. And you laughed when I changed my motto to "The cake is a lie." But I always came back. We had an understanding.

So where did we go wrong? You must have seen the look in my eye when I brought up Bioshock 2 last weekend. You knew it was more than trivial fascination. As the picture comes into clear focus, I realize I'm the villan. You didn't die. I killed you. The worst part is, I'd give anything to have you back. My Xbox 360, loved in life, and desperately cherrished in death.

The 1 2 P
02-14-2010, 03:09 AM
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

My Halo 3 Limited Edition console! How could you leave me like this? All alone, and with so much gaming still out there. I should have seen it coming, I suppose. Bioshock 2 just came out. Yeah, we had some good times with Halo 3, but then things got a little rocky when Halo Wars came out.

Looking back, it was probably my fault. Maybe my comparisons to Dune 2000 weren't as funny as I thought they were. I dunno. We tried it, sure, but we never could recapture the magic. Did I spend a lot of time with the original Bioshock? Yeah. Of course. But who didn't? It just seemed so exciting the first time, and, I dunno. . . I kept playing. Ok, yes, I kept playing, but can you blame me? Its not like it was serious. Just a fling, while I waited for ODST.

I don't even know why I'm posting this. Moral support? Someone to tell me its not my fault? Maybe. Maybe not. In retrospect, I see more clearly though. Everything I wanted, I had. You let me get the Battlestar Gallactica premium theme. Nothing hardcore, just a few high def renders of vipers. All very tastefull. And you laughed when I changed my motto to "The cake is a lie." But I always came back. We had an understanding.

So where did we go wrong? You must have seen the look in my eye when I brought up Bioshock 2 last weekend. You knew it was more than trivial fascination. As the picture comes into clear focus, I realize I'm the villan. You didn't die. I killed you. The worst part is, I'd give anything to have you back. My Xbox 360, loved in life, and desperately cherrished in death.

I know you are talking about your 360 but it sounds more like your ex-girlfriend:sob:

Sniderman
02-14-2010, 01:58 PM
Earlier I posted:


I just hope I dont have any more issues with Microsoft in the future.

The fact that you're willing to continue to give money to them after all of this just floors the shit out of me.

And now I shall post:


The worst part is, I'd give anything to have you back.

The fact that you're willing to continue to give money to them after all of this just floors the shit out of me.

megasdkirby
02-14-2010, 02:11 PM
Earlier I posted:



The fact that you're willing to continue to give money to them after all of this just floors the shit out of me.

And now I shall post:



The fact that you're willing to continue to give money to them after all of this just floors the shit out of me.

Can't agree enough.

First time, pure coincidence.

Second time, I'm getting annoyed and thinking something is up.

Third time, I will send the console to hell and get something else.

I'm not saying that the Xbox 360 is bad, because it's definitely not, but really? Why continue to promote a company by purchasing their items if said occurrence will continue? Many will defend their stand by stating it's "an investment", but truth be told, wouldn't they prefer something that is both enjoyable and that lasts?

primalmaster
02-14-2010, 07:37 PM
Still have a 360 from launch that works just fin if you install game to the hdd, else it gives read errors from time to time. but got elite for hdmi and bigger hdd.

LiquidPolicenaut
02-14-2010, 09:15 PM
My second 360 is on its last legs but I have a question for everyone: my system was giving me the 3 RROD yesterday and then today it booted up fine. I played Rock Band for like 5 songs worth, it froze, rebooted it, it gave me the digital vertical lines, then RROD again. Point is, its not consistently giving me the RROD but its most definitely dying/dead. Can I send it now to Microsoft or wait until its RROD are more consistent? I just don't want to send it to them and, somehow, the RROD don't show up and they tell me to pay :(