Some games that didn't do well past their original gen of systems. [Archive]

emceelokey

01-11-2009, 06:18 PM

I was just thinking of how Earthworm Jim hasn't been seen since the PS1 and even that was not really considered a part of legacy of that series since it was a total abortion. I'm just suprised that that franchise hasn't at least been whored out like a Crash Bandicoot or Spyro game. I would still think that the character still has drawing power. Many companies have tried to create other mascots that went nowhere (Dr.Muto, Vexx, Sphinx, Kya, Blinx...) why hasn't anyone tried to put a legit effort into a fairly popular franchise?

Anyway, what are some of the games that were big in it's generation and hasn't faired too well since.

aclbandit

01-11-2009, 06:33 PM

Sonic the Hedgehog. 'nuff said, really... :sob:

skaar

01-11-2009, 06:39 PM

Spyro?

dao2

01-11-2009, 06:51 PM

sonic did good on the dc and decent on the saturn :|

alex the kidd ;p

emceelokey

01-11-2009, 06:59 PM

Sonic the Hedgehog. 'nuff said, really... :sob:

Sonic Unleashed is actually really good, but not only that, Sonic was on the DC and the DS games were pretty decent, plus they whored hat game the hell out and eventhough most of those games sucked, they prbably have been a decent source of income for SEGA.

Gunface

01-11-2009, 07:12 PM

I don't think these did well even in their day, but Aero the Acrobat and Radical Rex come to mind. Tomba! also. And that was a pretty fun game.

Kid Icarus was awesome, but nothing came of it. Could have been a killer series. I know Pit was in the Smash Bros games but I don't think he has appeared in anything else.

emceelokey

01-11-2009, 07:26 PM

Tomba was a good game and I think it has a sequel but I know neither one sold really well but since were talking about cave men type of characters what the hell happened to Bonk? He was definitely a main eventer in his time. Wasn't tere supposed to ba compilation of those TG16 games for the PS2 a while back.

Nionel

01-11-2009, 09:10 PM

Oh, yeah. I loved the first Tomba, that game was great. It's too bad that the game never sold well enough to get a greatest hits release, though I don't think it would've mattered since Whoopee Camp closed shortly after the second game was released.

Whatever happened to Joe and Mac? I liked those games back on the 16-bit consoles, and it got a sequel so it couldn't have sold that badly.

bangtango

01-11-2009, 10:16 PM

You see this a lot with sports games.

The Bases Loaded series continued all the way to the PS1 but it hadn't been relevant since its days on the NES.

A more general example would be Konami basketball games. They struck gold with Double Dribble on NES but every Konami basketball game released since then has been a complete joke.

This won't make me popular but I think the Mega Man series has been a total fraud since the NES days.

Gunface

01-11-2009, 11:26 PM

I'll agree with the Mega Man comment. I don't even think 5 and 6 were that good. It's like they weren't even trying with some of the enemies. Flame Man? Come on, we've already seen Fire Man and Heat Man. Lazy.

I played Mega Man Battle Network though and found it fun. But it's just not Mega Man. I think the series has survived though. I imagine they must be successful since there's like 6 Battle Network games. That has nothing to do with them being good of course.

Tron 2.0

01-11-2009, 11:31 PM

Blaster Master any one ? I mean the original was great on the nes but afther,that each so called update did fall short.

bangtango

01-11-2009, 11:47 PM

I'll agree with the Mega Man comment. I don't even think 5 and 6 were that good. It's like they weren't even trying with some of the enemies. Flame Man? Come on, we've already seen Fire Man and Heat Man. Lazy.

Not to mention the other Mega Man 6 alumni:

Wind Man (aka: Air Man), Blizzard Man (aka: Ice Man) and Plant Man (aka: Wood Man) @_@

Wasn't that also the Mega Man game where Capcom and Nintendo Power ran a contest asking fans to name the robots for them?

If so, I can't imagine what kind of "fan" thought the names Yamato Man or Centaur Man were a great idea. I also can't imagine what Capcom representative agreed with them and decided to use those names.

Of course the NES Mega Man series was on a slippery slope when we saw the introduction of rubbish like Rush the Dog, who simply turned into the same type of special items that we saw in Mega Man 2 anyway.

Gunface

01-11-2009, 11:55 PM

Air Man begat Wind Man who later begat Cloud Man.

I honestly would have been happier with Turd Man or Man Man.

Gunface

01-11-2009, 11:56 PM

Air Man begat Wind Man who later begat Cloud Man.

I honestly would have been happier with Turd Man or Man Man.

What about Battletoads? That sort of just faded away.

Oops, I don't know how that happened.

emceelokey

01-12-2009, 12:26 AM

I would be totally be happy if they just Capcom just started getting sponsors for each boss. Like Slim Jim man and his power is to break walls or beams or something that can lad to new paths, or Spalding Man and his power is that he shoots balls and they bounce vertically so you can now shoot something directly above you.

Eventhough Mega Man hasn't been good since probablly the X trilogy on SNES, I believe that there are over 60 unique Mega Man titles so MM has done pretty well since the NES era.

bangtango

01-12-2009, 01:01 AM

Air Man begat Wind Man who later begat Cloud Man.

I honestly would have been happier with Turd Man or Man Man.

Since the Metal Blade from Mega Man 2 was such an awesome power up, I will admit that I would have been ok with Capcom coming up with "Blade Man" (aka: Metal Man) and passing him off as a brand new robot. Just for a chance to use the Metal Blade again, of course.

You know, if the NES hadn't been discontinued and Capcom did make 2-3 more Mega Man games for it, I bet you $50 they would have screwed up and created robots with names like "Spider Man", "Bat Man", "Aqua Man", "Iron Man" and "Super Man."

When it came to the Mega Man series, Capcom was on autopilot at that point (Mega Man 6) and they probably would have let those names slip through the cracks. Until the names leaked out to the press and the lawsuits rolled in.

I heard a rumor that when "Ninjabread Man" was released, somebody over at Capcom slapped himself on the forehead and said "Why didn't we think of that for a Mega Man game?"

skaar

01-12-2009, 02:02 AM

Star Ocean kinda peaked at #2 for me.

Push Upstairs

01-12-2009, 03:54 AM

StarTropics.

krooper13

01-12-2009, 04:16 AM

Alex Kidd is the best example, Miracle and Shinobi Worlds were awesome, if they'd kept with it who knows with new ideas, Sega might have fared a little better. Also I'm starting to worry Pikmin might go this way.

The 1 2 P

01-12-2009, 05:05 AM

Double Dragon was great on the Nes (1-3), good on the Genesis( 1+5) and Snes(5 and Super Double Dragon) and then had a really horrible entry on the Neo Geo and Playstation in the form of a weak ass fighting game. I'm only counting consoles here but I'd say the series has definitely fizzled out.

ccovell

01-12-2009, 06:29 AM

Wind Man (aka: Air Man), Blizzard Man (aka: Ice Man) and Plant Man (aka: Wood Man) @_@

Wasn't that also the Mega Man game where Capcom and Nintendo Power ran a contest asking fans to name the robots for them?

If so, I can't imagine what kind of "fan" thought the names Yamato Man or Centaur Man were a great idea. I also can't imagine what Capcom representative agreed with them and decided to use those names.

All the Famicom/NES RM/MM games since Rockman 2 have had their robot masters designed through a contest. Capcom conducted it in Japan for all titles, except MM6(?) which had Japanese AND North American entrants. I'm sure the winners were chosen by Capcom of Japan, which explains Yamato man quite easily.

sidnotcrazy

01-12-2009, 07:31 AM

Blaster Master any one ? I mean the original was great on the nes but afther,that each so called update did fall short.

YES! Thank you. Besides the genesis 'port', and the strange foray into the 32-bit era - Blasts Away we haven't seen much of Blaster Master, and a series that would make an excellent retrurn now, well at least that is what I think.

One game, made by R-type creator Irem I would love to see a sequel to is Metal Storm. Anyone remember that game on the NES?

G-Boobie

01-12-2009, 08:03 AM

Turrican. And now with Factor 5 dead and gone, there shall be no more... ever.

I know I'm gonna get Hell for this, but Mortal Kombat has been shady for years, too.

carlcarlson

01-12-2009, 08:37 AM

Toe Jam and Earl. I never played 3 but it didn't look very good and the reviews weren't very favorable.

I was just thinking this weekend that a new 2D Earthworm Jim would be great on the DS. That was my favorite series in the 16-bit generation and I'd love to see it come back.

Frankie_Says_Relax

01-12-2009, 08:49 AM

Kid Icarus

A wildly popular NES game with nary a true sequel to be found.

While it never had any bad sequels to "ruin" its reputation, it certainly never cashed in on its success as a Nintendo "franchise" in the same way that Metroid, Punch-Out or others did over the years.

Hopefully we get something on the Wii as has been teased in recent years.

squirrelnut

01-12-2009, 09:30 AM

I vote for sonic the hedgehog. He ruled in the 16 bit. Barely had any presence in the 32 bit. Was graphically superior but kind of boring on Dreamcast. Now he's just a furry blue babysitter for tails. Why oh why must tails be such a whiny lil brat

jdc

01-12-2009, 09:37 AM

I'd like to see the Crash Bandicoot series go back to the formula of the PSX games. And yeah, Spyro makes me cry. The first three PSX games were SO tight. I have them in that neat little box set. There are actually TOO many awesome mascot-based platformers from the PSX days that have bitten the dust.

Gunface

01-12-2009, 11:04 AM

YES! Thank you. Besides the genesis 'port', and the strange foray into the 32-bit era - Blasts Away we haven't seen much of Blaster Master, and a series that would make an excellent retrurn now, well at least that is what I think.

One game, made by R-type creator Irem I would love to see a sequel to is Metal Storm. Anyone remember that game on the NES?

Yeah Metal Storm was really cool. Interesting gameplay too; reversing gravity to avoid attacks and advance through the level. The game was challenging and the graphics were great for the time.

scooterb23

01-12-2009, 11:43 AM

I have to give a little love to Bubsy. I thoroughly enjoyed the first Bubsy game for the Genesis. And then I emember the excitement I felt when I saw Bubsy 3D on an OPM demo disc...oh my God what a mess that was.

eskobar

01-12-2009, 12:35 PM

I have always dreamed of a Panzer Dragoon Saga sequel, Panzer Orta was very good, but i missed the RPG elements of Saga.

Neutopia and Valis could be good.

I do not know if the low production of this games counts as "didn't do well", but sure they were missed by the core gamer :P

emceelokey

01-12-2009, 08:50 PM

I was looking at Gunface's avitar and it has Karnov on it. I liked that gameand for some reason that was a fairly recgonizeable character, even now but nothing past the NES days unless you want ot include his appearance in Fighters History Dynamite.

And Goddamn TOKI! That was my favorite ape that spit fire out of his mouth.

sidnotcrazy

01-13-2009, 08:48 AM

And Goddamn TOKI! That was my favorite ape that spit fire out of his mouth.

I too am a fan of Toki! Did you ever play the Genny sequel. I haven't, but it has the best title. Toki 2: Going Ape Spit! I have almost bought this game on name alone so many times.

k8track

01-13-2009, 07:01 PM

Kid Icarus was awesome, but nothing came of it. Could have been a killer series. I know Pit was in the Smash Bros games but I don't think he has appeared in anything else.

Kid Icarus

A wildly popular NES game with nary a true sequel to be found.

What about Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters for Gameboy?

swlovinist

01-13-2009, 07:17 PM

How about

Altered Beast-a true achievment back in the day, only to have a medicore sequel on GBA of all things

Toejam and Earl-The Xbox sequel was but a shimmer of what it once was.

Shinobi-The first PS2 one was okay, followed by its sequel that was subpar. but it was not shinobi to me. Give me another 2D one!

bananafish

01-13-2009, 08:09 PM

Wizards and Warriors trilogy on NES ends with a cliffhanger that was never resolved, they should make a part 4 of that series.

Gunface

01-14-2009, 01:19 AM

How about

Altered Beast-a true achievment back in the day, only to have a medicore sequel on GBA of all things

Maybe I'm wrong, but weren't they planning a remake of this? I totally agree though, such a cool game back then. Didn't really stand the test of time though.

Astrosmash

01-14-2009, 01:28 AM

All the Famicom/NES RM/MM games since Rockman 2 have had their robot masters designed through a contest. Capcom conducted it in Japan for all titles, except MM6(?) which had Japanese AND North American entrants. I'm sure the winners were chosen by Capcom of Japan, which explains Yamato man quite easily.

Yup. Wind Man and Knight Man were the two North American Robot Masters from the Nintendo Power contest.

Haoie

01-14-2009, 01:52 AM

I saw this topic and thought 'Sonic'.

And sure enough, the first reply was Sonic!!

What a world.

Sonicwolf

01-14-2009, 02:00 AM

Alex Kidd. I dont even think he even existed past the Master System.

Gunface

01-14-2009, 02:18 AM

Gex didn't make it far. A PS1 title and some other scattered games but I don't think they did very well.

The 1 2 P

01-14-2009, 02:42 AM

Gex didn't make it far. A PS1 title and some other scattered games but I don't think they did very well.

Are you joking? He's been the mascot for Geico for several years now. Sure, he has to share the reigns with a few cave dudes but I bet it pays much more than making video game appearances.

G-Boobie

01-14-2009, 05:04 AM

Are you joking? He's been the mascot for Geico for several years now. Sure, he has to share the reigns with a few cave dudes but I bet it pays much more than making video game appearances.

Nice. :)

sidnotcrazy

01-14-2009, 08:39 AM

GunFace, They did make a remake/sequel to Altered Beast on the GBA. But everyone tells me it terrible. So approach with caution.

Alex Kidd. I dont even think he even existed past the Master System.

I think they did make a Genny version of Alex Kidd called The Enchanted Castle.

Gunface

01-14-2009, 10:26 AM

GunFace, They did make a remake/sequel to Altered Beast on the GBA. But everyone tells me it terrible. So approach with caution.

I thought I heard about a remake for the 360/PS3 at some point. If that did happen, it could be incredible...or awful.

Just thought of another one: Adventures of Lolo. A few for the NES, then nothing.

Vlcice

01-14-2009, 11:08 AM

Just thought of another one: Adventures of Lolo. A few for the NES, then nothing.

If I recall, that was part of a longer Japanese series that started on the MSX. After the Game Boy game, there were another two Japanese Windows releases; the last one was 2000 or so.

emceelokey

01-14-2009, 11:53 PM

Gex didn't make it far. A PS1 title and some other scattered games but I don't think they did very well.

Gex had a couple of games. There was the first one that debuted on the 3DO, which was a 2d side scroller, then I think there were two more that were in 3d. I just remember those because for some reason they decided to include a chick wearing like a black latex body suit on the covers. I never actually played them so I don't know how that chick fit in.

I think there was an Altred BEast for the PS2 in Japan and from what I've read, it's horrible. It's bad like how Golden Axe: Beast Rider is bad.

CelticJobber

01-15-2009, 01:15 AM

I always thought the Streets of Rage series would've carried on with the Saturn but its been dormant since the Genesis days.

Final Fight pretty much died out after part 3 on Super NES, the two 3D versions have been colossal failures.

Donkey Kong Country was a hugely popular series, but Nintendo pretty much dumped it after DK64.

kupomogli

01-15-2009, 04:18 AM

Kid Icarus

A wildly popular NES game with nary a true sequel to be found.

Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters(GB) > Kid Icarus(NES)

There was another title.

Star Tropics

Were there any after the second? I thought the second one was just as good as the original.

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Anyways. As for me. I think the Mana series went downhill after it's first generation of games. There was the GB and SNES games, but after that, all the games were kindof bland in comparison. The GBA remake, one that should have been good, was decent at best.

I'll also list the Dynasty Warriors series. The series is terrible to begin with but it was decent at first. The thing about this series is that it has never progressed past what the second title(or the first Musou title which is the same game) started with and we get every game being exactly the same except for minor changes which does nothing in setting each game apart. I think never making any steps towards progression would equal not doing well in that case.

Now for the Lunar series, I'm not a fan, but there are quite a few fans who somehow enjoy both the first two. However, it's pretty much consistent through most people that the remake on the GBA and then Dragon Song were both terrible. Never played Magic School or heard anything about it, though.

ButtonMasher123

01-15-2009, 02:28 PM

Ristar for the Genesis was a brilliant game. I think its acually better than all of 16 bit Sonic games yet he was never heard from again.

Sega has a history of doing that though where they will either one-off a good game or change it so dramatically for the sequel that they may as well just have done one. With all these new crappy Sonic games, I don't know why they don't bring back their other good games at least one time. Its like they forgot that they did other great things.

Rob2600

01-15-2009, 06:14 PM

Whatever happened to Joe and Mac? I liked those games back on the 16-bit consoles, and it got a sequel so it couldn't have sold that badly.

I really enjoyed Joe & Mac on the SNES. It was one of my favorites and I was shocked that Data East could make a video game that good, after playing so many of its horrendous NES games.

A new 2D Joe & Mac game would be great, especially as a $10 WiiWare title.