I bought a used 360 with an opened case, how can I tell if its modded?

[Xian042]

I want to play Live, but Im afraid that if it was modded MS will detect it and ban me.

Suggestions?

[ProgrammingAce]

take it on live and see if it's banned. If it is, take it back.

I wouldn't accept an opened 360 anyway, lord knows what the previous owner did inside there. Just 'cause it's not banned now doesn't mean it won't be banned in the future.

[Xian042]

take it on live and see if it's banned. If it is, take it back.

I wouldn't accept an opened 360 anyway, lord knows what the previous owner did inside there. Just 'cause it's not banned now doesn't mean it won't be banned in the future.

The deal is pretty much done, no taking it back. I traded something for it I didnt want, and was worth much less to me than even a sketchy 360. Thanks for the advice.

[c0ldb33r]

I traded something for it I didnt want, and was worth much less to me than even a sketchy 360.
Okkkkaaaayyyyyy...

I gotta ask - what did you trade for it?

[Xian042]

Okkkkaaaayyyyyy...

I gotta ask - what did you trade for it?

a magnadoodle

[Sabz5150]

a magnadoodle

Wow dude, you got shafted. LOL

[ProgrammingAce]

Ffs...

[CDiablo]

Only Idea I have is to DL a bootleg and see if it works......
I just modded my backup XBOX360(I know its bad but I really want to play 4 Player Gears with my friends and dont want to buy another copy) and I have done some research on the subject. Modded systems themselves will not be detected and banned(I actually updated my system to the NXE after I modded it), but if you are playing a non patched game online you can get banned I believe.

[ProgrammingAce]

I just modded my backup XBOX360(I know its bad but I really want to play 4 Player Gears with my friends and dont want to buy another copy) and I have done some research on the subject. Modded systems themselves will not be detected and banned(I actually updated my system to the NXE after I modded it), but if you are playing a non patched game online you can get banned I believe.

Hahahaha... Not quite.

Way to go admitting pirating games though. I tossed your username into google and saw your xbox live tag was also CDiablo, so i had the pleasure of reporting it for modding.

If i wanted to be a real prick i'd figure out your Internet provider and report you to them for piracy. Lesson of the day folks? Don't admit to illegal activities on public forums.

[c0ldb33r]

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[Joe West]

fire it up, there should be a menu & it will tell you.......

[CDiablo]

Hahahaha... Not quite.

Way to go admitting pirating games though. I tossed your username into google and saw your xbox live tag was also CDiablo, so i had the pleasure of reporting it for modding.

If i wanted to be a real prick i'd figure out your Internet provider and report you to them for piracy. Lesson of the day folks? Don't admit to illegal activities on public forums.

Im pretty sure it is legal to own a backup of the games you own(which I did with my genuine copy of GOW2).....but I wont get into it. I'll be waiting by my door with my knife.....the only friend that hasent turned its back on me. Now Im off to look up my enemies XBL tags to report them for modding.

[CDiablo]

fire it up, there should be a menu & it will tell you.......

I dont think it does.......Im pretty sure the whole deal is supposed to be not recognized by the hardware. As I said earlier Im almost sure that modded systems will get banned if you play a bootleg on XBL. Honestly there are forums that are all ablut modding that may have the answers, google will do ya good.

[DonMarco]

Ways MS could check to see if you're playing a modded system:

1. The BIOS of the DVD drive and mobo is checked to make sure it hasn't been tampered with
2. The game DVD is legit, not burned.
3. The OS is patched and up to date.

I'm sure there's more, now that you can install games to the HDD.

However! There's always a chance that it was something innocent, like the DVD drive was replaced. Or it was really, really dusty inside. If you weren't explicitly told it was a modded system (which raises the resell value) there's a chance the seller didn't know one way or another.

I'd say burn a game and see if the system plays it. If it doesn't detect it, take it online and see what happens. If it does play it, flip in on Craigslist and destroy the DVD you burned, you awful criminal scum, you.

[nate1749]

Or he could have got the 3 rings of death and sent it in to a 3rd party to have it fixed like me (since Microsoft fixes don't work for long and take forever).

Is it possible to just ask the guy?

Nate

[Vinnysdad]

Hahahaha... Not quite.

Way to go admitting pirating games though. I tossed your username into google and saw your xbox live tag was also CDiablo, so i had the pleasure of reporting it for modding.

If i wanted to be a real prick i'd figure out your Internet provider and report you to them for piracy. Lesson of the day folks? Don't admit to illegal activities on public forums.



Why would you even bother doing this? You get satisfaction by acting like the internet police?

[unbroken]

edit*

nvm

[ProgrammingAce]

Why would you even bother doing this? You get satisfaction by acting like the internet police?

Why would someone admit modding a modern system for the sole purpose of illegally pirating games? When you're going to be that stupid about it, i'm going to report it.

While it is legal to have a "backup" copy of a game, it isn't legal to use the backup and the primary copy at the same time, which is what CDiablo is doing.

[mailman187666]

Why would someone admit modding a modern system for the sole purpose of illegally pirating games? When you're going to be that stupid about it, i'm going to report it.

While it is legal to have a "backup" copy of a game, it isn't legal to use the backup and the primary copy at the same time, which is what CDiablo is doing.

I think he is basically asking what you think you'd gain by reporting him for that when he has done nothing to offend you in any way. Its like ratting out your neighbor if you see him hiding in his tool shed smoking a joint. Its not hurting anybody, its not gonna make your life easier, its just going to make another regular person's (who means no harm) life harder. We're all supposed to be friends here at DP even if we disagree with some of each other's actions or thought. If I went around reporting people for doing certain things all the time, I'd either have no friends, get my ass kicked, or both.

[demen999]

^^ Yeah I agree. That was a somewhat jerk move there. Nothing to gain or lose by it, yet still did it.

"Just 'cause it's not banned now doesn't mean it won't be banned in the future."
I thought if Microsoft banned your system once, your banned for life?

I wouldnt have traded/bought a open 360 anyways :p

[Porksta]

I think he is basically asking what you think you'd gain by reporting him for that when he has done nothing to offend you in any way. Its like ratting out your neighbor if you see him hiding in his tool shed smoking a joint. Its not hurting anybody, its not gonna make your life easier, its just going to make another regular person's (who means no harm) life harder. We're all supposed to be friends here at DP even if we disagree with some of each other's actions or thought. If I went around reporting people for doing certain things all the time, I'd either have no friends, get my ass kicked, or both.

The thing is, that guy bought the weed. There is a difference between purchasing an illegal product legally (if that makes any sense), and downright stealing. Stealing does hurt people.

[skaar]

Hahahaha... Not quite.

Way to go admitting pirating games though. I tossed your username into google and saw your xbox live tag was also CDiablo, so i had the pleasure of reporting it for modding.

If i wanted to be a real prick i'd figure out your Internet provider and report you to them for piracy. Lesson of the day folks? Don't admit to illegal activities on public forums.

Dude, wtf kind of dick move is that to pull? He made one comment about it on a forum and you decided to fuck over some random stranger who was doing you no harm for shits and giggles?

Are you going to report anyone with a SNES copier too? Any friends who run XMBC on a modded Xbox?

Bad form. I hope karma bites you in the ass.

[c0ldb33r]

Any friends who run XMBC on a modded Xbox?
Hey now let's not go nuts. I love XBMC.

[geneshifter]

Dude, I would never had bought an opened system. That was your first mistake.

Also, please don't pirate games. I know you said you own GoW2 and having a copy is legal but please don't be one of those idiots out there downloading and burning "backups". That just isn't cool.

[megasdkirby]

Hey now let's not go nuts. I love XBMC.

Heck yeah! Love to see my vids on it! :)

[mailman187666]

The thing is, that guy bought the weed. There is a difference between purchasing an illegal product legally (if that makes any sense), and downright stealing. Stealing does hurt people.

I agree with what you are saying, and is a point well made. I was just using that as a quick example of something similar that you could relate to it. Technically we aren't supposed to discuss roms, emulators, modding, pirating on DP anyway, which is understandable. The best thing to do (in my opinion only) is to inform our fellow gamers/collectors that what they are talking about is illegal and suggest to them they keep that kind of information off the boards and keep it to themselves. Maybe even say "hey bud, you should edit that last post you made." I'm sure we've now learned that we have hall monitors around here who will be more willing to screw us than to inform or help us.

if it were somebody re-sealing games and selling them as brand new/sealed, or making NWC repro carts and selling them as authentic, I think that would be a different story, because any one of us could be the victim of that sort of behavior.

[skaar]

I still want a SNES copier :D

[Xian042]

Dude, I would never had bought an opened system. That was your first mistake.

Also, please don't pirate games. I know you said you own GoW2 and having a copy is legal but please don't be one of those idiots out there downloading and burning "backups". That just isn't cool.

sheesh,

ok lets make it clear that I, the started of this thread, is NOT the guy that said he is modding his system.

anyway, just trust me I feel I got a good deal on it, modded or not.

and in my opinion, the mod report was harsh.

[geneshifter]

sheesh,

ok lets make it clear that I, the started of this thread, is NOT the guy that said he is modding his system.

anyway, just trust me I feel I got a good deal on it, modded or not.

and in my opinion, the mod report was harsh.

Woops, my apologies. I was addressing both of you and didn't make myself clear.

[norkusa]

I still want a SNES copier :D


REPORTED

[geneshifter]

REPORTED

HAHA, this is getting to be like the Minority Report. Tin foil hats: ON.

[demen999]

narkusa...

[titanzguard]

Hahahaha... Not quite.

Way to go admitting pirating games though. I tossed your username into google and saw your xbox live tag was also CDiablo, so i had the pleasure of reporting it for modding.

If i wanted to be a real prick i'd figure out your Internet provider and report you to them for piracy. Lesson of the day folks? Don't admit to illegal activities on public forums.

Real dick move. All he was doing was trying to help the dude out and this is how you repay a fellow DPer. WoW, arent you so cool? Dont you have anything better to do? I swear some people have no lives at all!

[Sabz5150]

Hey now let's not go nuts. I love XBMC.

So you admit to having a machine that can be used to perform illegal acts?

Slippery slope.

[demen999]

What is this xbmc you all speak of? Some media connec to computers like orb?

[Gameguy]

Just curious, is it illegal to own prototypes? Don't they belong to the company that was producing the game? They get taken by employees and wind up for sale, but aren't they supposed to be company property? Is dumping them illegal? Or does it depend if a person gets permission to do so, or buys the rights? Are some reproduction cartridges illegal? Are hacks of some games illegal too?

A prototype version of Sonic 2 was stolen from a New York Toy Show in 1992, I'm guessing it's illegal to own that, or possessing the ROM that was dumped and made available.

[ProgrammingAce]

Just curious, is it illegal to own prototypes? Don't they belong to the company that was producing the game? They get taken by employees and wind up for sale, but aren't they supposed to be company property? Is dumping them illegal? Or does it depend if a person gets permission to do so, or buys the rights? Are some reproduction cartridges illegal? Are hacks of some games illegal too?

A prototype version of Sonic 2 was stolen from a New York Toy Show in 1992, I'm guessing it's illegal to own that, or possessing the ROM that was dumped and made available.

It depends on the situation. Many protos come from companies who's assets were sold at auction. It's probably legal to own those. Proto games that come from magazines and reviewers is also kind of murky. It may be possession of stolen property, depending on how it was licensed. Since the licenses aren't public, it's hard to say it'd be prosecuted. The contracts are considered a trade secret, so it's hard to get in trouble if you're not privy to that information.

As for dev kits, those are all stolen merchandise unless they were taken from a company who went out of business (such as Acclaim). Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo legally had so long to claim the devices before they were sold at auction. Since they were legally sold, the owners cannot be prosecuted.

If you're concerned about the legal ramifications, you should probably talk to a lawyer. None of this has ever really been tested in court.

[Cobra Commander]

So you admit to having a machine that can be used to perform illegal acts?

Slippery slope.
I admit to it. I also admit to owning a screwdriver which could be potentially used to stab someone in the face.

Slippery slope indeed.

[eskobar]

Why people are always shitty ????

No matter what side are you on, if you support piracy you attack people ... if you don't, you attack them too !!

We all think different and we must respect our opinions, if "ProgrammingAce" is affected directly about piracy you should respect how he tries to stop illegal acts.

And if you are some damn pirate, live with it or just change; the piracy issues are very clear, but do not try to defend an illegal act just because "many on this forum do it" or because "DPers are more responsible about it" ...:grrr:

[carlcarlson]

Why people are always shitty ????

Quote of the month in my book.

[dendawg]

if "ProgrammingAce" is affected directly about piracy you should respect how he tries to stop illegal acts.

We should respect a whiny little douche who narcs for the hell of it? Nuh-uh. Not in this lifetime.

[Sabz5150]

I admit to it. I also admit to owning a screwdriver which could be potentially used to stab someone in the face.

Slippery slope indeed.

Ah, but you are not circumventing a copy protection method by using a screwdriver in a way not prescribed by the manufacturer of said screwdriver. With the modded 360, you are.

"to “circumvent a technological measure” means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner"

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00001201----000-.html

Welcome to the 21st Century.

[kedawa]

I'm glad we don't have these absurd laws in Canada.

[ProgrammingAce]

I'm glad we don't have these absurd laws in Canada.

No, you guys decided to pay a tax on every blank CD instead... That really wouldn't swing well with me either.

[kedawa]

The funny thing is, it applies only to CDs, and not DVDs, because it's the music lobby that has our gov't in their pocket, and not videogame or movie trade groups.

I don't know anyone who still burns music CDs anyway, but it does suck that people have to pay a levy to the big labels when they buy them.
It's an unfair and illogical law that was drawn up entirely by a private interest group and got passed quietly and without public consultation. Business as usual for Canadian politics, I'm afraid.

[Gameguy]

No, you guys decided to pay a tax on every blank CD instead... That really wouldn't swing well with me either.
It's not a tax, it's a levy(slight difference). I'm not sure if the site I've posted is currently up to date, so some things might have been changed(I think the levy has been increased since then).
http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml#is_it_a_tax

An interesting few points are listed under "Can I legally copy music CDs for my friends?"


1. If someone steals a commercial CD, steals a blank CD-R, and then copies the commercial CD onto the CD-R, they are a thief, but they have not infringed copyright.
2. You can legally lend a commercial CD to a friend, give him a blank CD-R, let him use your computer, and help him burn the CD-R which he can keep for his own private use.
3. You can legally copy a commercial CD , keep the copy, and give your friend the original.
4. You cannot legally make the copy yourself and give your friend the copy.
5. Your friends Alice and Benoit really like the new commercial CD you just purchased. Alice borrows it and makes a copy for her own use. She then passes the commercial CD on to Benoit, who makes a copy for his own use. Benoit gives the commercial CD back to you. This is all perfectly legal.
6. However, if Alice had copied the commercial CD, given it back to you, and passed her copy on to Benoit to make a copy for his own use, then copyright would have "probably" been infringed. There is some doubt here because Alice's original intent is important. In the strictest terms, her copy was no longer just for her private use. Pretty strange considering that the end result of examples 5 and 6 are exactly the same!


Thanks for explaining a bit about the prototypes, I was curious about those. I don't own any prototypes or any reproductions, but just in case I ever come across any I wanted to know what I should do with them(legally). There were a few repro hacks that look interesting, including Zelda: Outlands. I know Nintendo still has the rights to Zelda and re-releases it every so often, I wasn't sure what their take on the hacks were/are.

I don't pirate games, I don't even have a CD burner so I couldn't if I wanted to. Plus my PC is too old to play current PC games, there's a bunch I would buy if I could run them. I have used emulators to try out old games, and games I've come across and liked I looked for and bought. I wouldn't have thought to buy them if I hadn't tried them out. I haven't used any emulators lately though, playing with the keyboard isn't as good as a controller.

[Nature Boy]

Was it stupid to talk about modding a console? That's questionable really. After all, according to you, you can mod a console for 'legit' reasons:


I'm perfectly fine with modding your console to play imports

It was definitely stupid to admit copying a just released game so that he didn't have to pay for a second copy. That's piracy, and it's against the law no matter how people try to justify it.

But even that alone really left you no reason to report the dude. Unless of course you work for MS or something and it's your job.

I'm assuming you don't, though, and decided to report him because of this:


modding your system is what allows the fucktards on xbox live to cheat.

Where did the guy say he used it to cheat on Live? Did you just assume because he's a modder that he would? What if he also wanted to run imports on that second machine only? I mean *jeez* man, you didn't even ask. You came across as someone who just ran off like a 4 year old and tattled to mommy because you're pretty sure he had his hand on *your* side of the toy room.

The last thing in the world I want is for these forums to become a place where you can't discuss things freely. Piracy on modern systems is definitely frowned upon (I recall users in the past being warned to limit the discussion to older systems for sure). But lets let the Mods do their job and let the conversation flow where it will.

Totally feel free to call the guy out on something, but don't be an ass and start taking things into your own hands. I don't think anybody wants that.

[ProgrammingAce]

But even that alone really left you no reason to report the dude. Unless of course you work for MS or something and it's your job.

Let's just say i have a launch team console for a reason... Making an "extra copy" of a game takes money directly out of my pocket.

If someone deprives my company of cash through piracy, then brags about it right in front of me, why shouldn't i report it? I even have a 1-800 number on my ID badge to report piracy and have to go to training each year on how and what i should report. I signed a document last month that said if i witness piracy and don't report it, i will be immediately terminated.




Where did the guy say he used it to cheat on Live? Did you just assume because he's a modder that he would? What if he also wanted to run imports on that second machine only?

You can't run imports on a modded 360. The *only* purpose of a modded 360 is to play burned games.

[Nature Boy]

I even have a 1-800 number on my ID badge to report piracy and have to go to training each year on how and what i should report. I signed a document last month that said if i witness piracy and don't report it, i will be immediately terminated.

That's the type of thing I would have mentioned if I had decided to advertise the fact I had busted the guy. Not the gory details, but your situation.

It does a *much* better job of proving how stupid it is to talk about piracy in a public forum than seeing and thinking some random faceless dude report you to authorities.

(Let's face it - you can't exactly believe *everything* people say about what they have/haven't/will do on a public forum such as this - it's too anonymous).


You can't run imports on a modded 360. The *only* purpose of a modded 360 is to play burned games.

That actually surprises me more than a little (I was under the impression that all hacks removed region locks or whatever they use to prevent importing). But it doesn't really matter anyway - you've totally explained yourself in my eyes.

If it does become possible to mod a 360 to play imports, would you do it?

[Gameguy]

Let's just say i have a launch team console for a reason... Making an "extra copy" of a game takes money directly out of my pocket.

If someone deprives my company of cash through piracy, then brags about it right in front of me, why shouldn't i report it? I even have a 1-800 number on my ID badge to report piracy and have to go to training each year on how and what i should report. I signed a document last month that said if i witness piracy and don't report it, i will be immediately terminated.

If you do report someone, just don't publicly post that you're reporting them. The only way to catch someone is if they admit it. :)

I do remember buying some old PC games that specifically recommended that I back up the game onto other floppies and play those, while keeping the original disks safe. Other games specifically said not to copy anything. I never bothered to back them up but I was a bit confused why different companies said different things(I am kind of worried about floppy disks going bad though). I'm aware that the poster said he backed up the game to play both at the same time, I'm not confusing what he said with making archival backups. I am surprised why anyone would bother to have multiple consoles for current systems, just buy one.

If all I'm buying is the license to use a game for personal use(rather than paying for a physical copy), if the game disk gets damaged does that mean that I'm entitled to get a replacement from the company for free since I've paid for a license rather than the physical copy?

[c0ldb33r]

deleted - I misread the post

[ProgrammingAce]

If all I'm buying is the license to use a game for personal use(rather than paying for a physical copy), if the game disk gets damaged does that mean that I'm entitled to get a replacement from the company for free since I've paid for a license rather than the physical copy?

No, because you're purchasing the license to use *that* copy, not a license to play the game.

It sucks, and i don't agree with it, but that's what it is.

For some obvious reasons, companies are afraid to test EULA's in court. In many cases, they're not sure if the concept will hold up in a trial. Which pretty much tells me that it's a bad idea to begin with.

[c0ldb33r]

Programming Ace, would you "had to" have reported him if he simply wanted to flash his 360's DVD-rom drive? If he didn't mention playing burned games?

I understand that you think youre the internet police and seem to get shits and giggles for acting tough, but you're still stunt doesn't impress anyone.


The *only* purpose of a modded 360 is to play burned games.
Not true. Theres also simply the fact that it can be done. My original xbox is modded, yet I dont have a single ripped off xbox game. It is simply modded because (1) it was fun to do, and (2) I can install my legally purchased games to the HDD and saved the DVD-Rom laser. Same thing with my PS2, its modded and yet theres no piracy. The xbox 360 isnt different, just because someone wants to mod their hardware doesnt necessarily make them a crook. Thats simply paranoia on your part.

[ProgrammingAce]

Programming Ace, would you "had to" have reported him if he simply wanted to flash his 360's DVD-rom drive? If he didn't mention playing burned games?

No, he wouldn't have done anything wrong. Hell, if he had just kept his mouth shut, I wouldn't really care.


Not true. Theres also simply the fact that it can be done. My original xbox is modded, yet I dont have a single ripped off xbox game. It is simply modded because (1) it was fun to do, and (2) I can install my legally purchased games to the HDD and saved the DVD-Rom laser. Same thing with my PS2, its modded and yet theres no piracy. The xbox 360 isnt different, just because someone wants to mod their hardware doesnt necessarily make them a crook. Thats simply paranoia on your part.

On the 360, you can save your games to the hard drive without modding. It's one of the new features. Modding a 360 would never have allowed you to save anything to the hard drive. The *only* thing modding a 360 lets you do is play burned games.

Matter of fact, playing burned games on the 360 will wear your laser out faster.

As for modding your console for the educational factor, feel free. I own a modded 360. I just don't pirate games, and i certainly don't admit to it on a public forum.

[c0ldb33r]

Listen I was going to respond back, but I`m afraid that I`ll make some off the cuff remark and get your internet police on my ass.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/84504259_b0a1c7040a.jpg

[skaar]

Actually, I hear you can play PAL releases on a modded NTSC 360 - so you can play imports, kinda. Just burns of them, not originals ;-)

I've known a few people do that that to get achievements from a few different regions' versions of the game - though that sounds like BS to me.

[kainemaxwell]

Wonder if ProgrammingAce got a bonus on his paycheck for reporting that guy and living up to his agreement at work.

[Nature Boy]

The *only* thing modding a 360 lets you do is play burned games.

I still have a problem with the absolute *certainty* of this statement.

I always figured modding a 360 would allow me to copy mp3s and avis directly to the HD. Is that not true? You could certainly do that on a modded Xbox1. And it would be *sweet*

[carlcarlson]

I still have a problem with the absolute *certainty* of this statement.

I always figured modding a 360 would allow me to copy mp3s and avis directly to the HD. Is that not true? You could certainly do that on a modded Xbox1. And it would be *sweet*

Why not use an external usb hard drive?

[mailman187666]

As for modding your console for the educational factor, feel free. I own a modded 360. I just don't pirate games, and i certainly don't admit to it on a public forum.

there you go guys, he gave us permission to mod our systems for educational purposes only. Can I go outside and play with my friends now dad?

[c0ldb33r]

Why not use an external usb hard drive?
Although this isn't the case with me (I've got an unmodded 20GB 360), if I had an elite with a 120 GB drive and only had 20-40 GB full, it would make sense to me to want to take advantage of the remaining empty space.

[Nature Boy]

Why not use an external usb hard drive?

I've tried it, and it does work, but it's not as convenient. I actually prefer streaming. I have a Linux box and a piece of software called "TwonkyMedia" that allows me to stream music and movies to the 360.

That way you don't have to move an external HD back and forth as you modify it.

However I'd still rather be able to put the stuff directly on the HD. That way it's there and I don't have to do anything special to access it. Streaming or using an external HD means ensuring it's on and plugged in and all that. It's convenience.

[carlcarlson]

I have a buddy that went the streaming route as well, but I'm not sure my computer could handle it. Plus the fewer things I need to have on the better. My external drives are very convenient for me, they don't require a power cable or anything so I can just plug them in the front of the system and let it go! I do have to transfer movies now and again, but I can usually just load up 10 or so and that will last me awhile.

Anyway, we're getting off subject here. Wait, what was the original subject?

[s1lence]

Actually, I hear you can play PAL releases on a modded NTSC 360 - so you can play imports, kinda. Just burns of them, not originals ;-)

I've known a few people do that that to get achievements from a few different regions' versions of the game - though that sounds like BS to me.

I have achievements from different regions on my tag as I have different 360s for the different regions. You can just use a memory card or your HDD and swap it between the systems.

[ProgrammingAce]

I still have a problem with the absolute *certainty* of this statement.

I always figured modding a 360 would allow me to copy mp3s and avis directly to the HD. Is that not true? You could certainly do that on a modded Xbox1. And it would be *sweet*

I am absolutely certain. The only mod you can do to a 360, is modify the firmware on the DVD drive so it stops reporting the media type of the disc in the drive. They change the firmware so it reports burned discs as stamped discs.

Modding a 360 doesn't allow you to do anything else but play burned discs. You can't do anything cool like XBMC, you can't run emulators, i'm not kidding when i say the *only* reason to mod a 360 is to play burned discs.

And no, if the game is region locked, changing the region will break the signature on the file and the 360 will not play the disc. So modding the console will not allow you to play region free.