Sega 32x World Series Baseball more sought-after than Spiderman?

[fishsandwich]

When did a baseball game replace Spiderman: Web of Fire (last 32x game released in USA) for most expensive NTSC 32x game? Weren't these cheap as potting soil a while back?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260349224218


Spiderman has been going for around $90 lately for a complete copy.

[The Shawn]

I dunno, I picked up my Spiderman (CIB) for like $3 at a flea market. It took me longer to track down a copy of Pifall CIB for a reasonable price...

[koster]

A seller on Amazon has a factory-sealed 32X World Series Baseball (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000HDKU00) for $149. IMHO, a factory-sealed 32X Spider-Man: Web of Fire would sell for more than that...

[MASTERWEEDO]

I got the baseball one a while ago for not very much off ebay. I think I might get rid of mine soon if this trend continues

[FlufflePuff]

I bought my complete copy a year ago for $25 bucks and my complete Spiderman for $80. Gotta say I like the trend. Pitfall was the third hardest for me to find. I still dont have a box/instructions for Blackthorne, but I would imagine that would increase in value too if interest in the 32x is somehow going up.

[chrisbid]

the general trend in ebay and amazon is down, with the economy tanking, if anyone is looking to maximize their profit then do not wait, list now

i picked up a loose WSB for 32x for cheap, the guy that sold it didnt believe any sports game was worth a lot of money. he sold it cheap on principle, even though i told him it was hard to find

[Daft Punk]

Last time I checked it looked like the system was going up a bit also.

[swlovinist]

Complete boxed 32X US collection here, and that dang WSB was the last game I needed for the set. I think the thing with the game is that it does not get alot of attention due to being a decade plus old sports title. Getting that game has been a pain for awhile, even when I completed my set several years ago.

[Press_Start]

Looks like the same price-pumping practices from the same kind of pompous pigs. Set up proxy auctions and (with second account) buy at ridiculous price to fool the suckers (rich, desperate, stupid, or whatever) in believing its gone up in price and unnecessarily deal out in a sultan's fortune. Seen done the same way for the Sega Cd and Turbo Grafx. My advice is to take Ebay prices like a grain of salt cause as Necro from PCEngineFx puts it, these buyers have more dollars than sense.

[mobiusclimber]

Looks like the same price-pumping practices from the same kind of pompous pigs. Set up proxy auctions and (with second account) buy at ridiculous price....

That theory doesn't really make a lot of sense considering how much Ebay fees are. So what are they doing after that? Filing unpaid item claims and making new accounts? What a lot of hassle just to try to drive the price up on something!

[Press_Start]

That theory doesn't really make a lot of sense considering how much Ebay fees are. So what are they doing after that? Filing unpaid item claims and making new accounts? What a lot of hassle just to try to drive the price up on something!

It does when a supposedly uncommon/rare $5-10 games start "selling" for 10-20 times the regular price. And presto...instant profit. Ebay fees are a mute point when you know how to get effective discounts and returns are huge. Look at Snatcher for the Sega CD. Until two years ago, it was selling below $50, then suddenly started selling 2-3x times then every copy under the sun was bought up. Soon that, sellers began restocking them for even higher price. It's the same old pattern. Ridiculous high priced auctions, followed by sudden buyoff, then emergence of same products for even higher price. Rince, lather, repeat. If you've been tracking Turbo sales over the last few months like I have, you'll see the same pattern emerging.

[bangtango]

Just a hunch.........

I'd guess WSB for 32X gets such a good price because it is less likely to be sold than Spiderman. Everybody knows that 32X Spiderman is worth something so you are always seeing somebody list it. I'm sure there are people (who don't necessarily visit this site) who might pick up a copy of WSB or are sitting on it now and aren't aware it sells for a good price. Thus it doesn't get listed often. Which means when it does get listed, all of the people who filled the other holes in their 32X collection before WSB are now chasing these auctions.

[fishsandwich]

I sold a complete minty copy a few months back on Ebay for $112. I assure you there was no shrill bidding. I was shocked when I saw what it ended at.

[Baloo]

The thing is, cart only WSB wouldn't go for that. Spiderman goes for $70-100 cart only, WSB only goes for $50 or less cart only.

Spiderman is worth way more than World Series Baseball.

[megasdkirby]

It does when a supposedly uncommon/rare $5-10 games start "selling" for 10-20 times the regular price. And presto...instant profit. Ebay fees are a mute point when you know how to get effective discounts and returns are huge. Look at Snatcher for the Sega CD. Until two years ago, it was selling below $50, then suddenly started selling 2-3x times then every copy under the sun was bought up. Soon that, sellers began restocking them for even higher price. It's the same old pattern. Ridiculous high priced auctions, followed by sudden buyoff, then emergence of same products for even higher price. Rince, lather, repeat. If you've been tracking Turbo sales over the last few months like I have, you'll see the same pattern emerging.

Agreed 1,000%!!!

Another example I've seen is Montezuma's Revenge (SMS) for $75! WHY!? It usually goes for no more than $25, yet on occassions it has hiked to close to $75!

Also recently, I saw what I call "buyer desesperation" on two different accounts: Evolution Pocket for NGPC (UK version) and Castlevania Legends (GB). On the first example, one copy went for $150+, then the second copy went for $60+, and the final copy went for...$160! What!? On the second example, a previous copy went for $60 MINT CIB, while a copy yesterday went for...over $100!

I don't understand buyers. I just think people are desperate and pay whatever amount for the game they are after.

[Kevincal]

I was curiously watching a complete World Series Baseball that ended yesterday at about $50.

[Rickstilwell1]

Yeah don't forget that many buyers who have lots of disposable income will buy a game for whatever price it is listed at if there are only a couple of copies available when they are looking.

I used to do that when I didn't have to pay rent every month and I was trying to get all the games I had sold before back into my collection. So I bought a $30 Ninja Gaiden III for NES and a $30 CIB Big Nose Freaks Out for NES (only copy listed at the time). I could have probably found both of them cheaper if I had waited and had Game Crazy search for them because back then they still carried NES games.

[Press_Start]

I sold a complete minty copy a few months back on Ebay for $112. I assure you there was no shrill bidding. I was shocked when I saw what it ended at.

Seller doesn't necessarily need to be in on it. Actually, all they have to do is keep outbidding and pump up the price. The faster it rises, the more money they pocket for their copy. Even if the cons paid a ridiculous price, they always resell for a higher ridiculous price (double or more @_@) knowing there are potential buyers (a.k.a. lobotomized rich monkeys) desperate enough to flip a king's ransom. This delusional phenomenon has run rampant one time too many on the turbo scene. Anyone watching the boxed Magical Chase auction on Ebay knows what I'm talking about.

[Iron Draggon]

only if you don't have it and you know how rare it is... otherwise it's just another sports game... why else would anyone pay that much for a copy?

[T2KFreeker]

32-X stuff is getting rarer because people didn't take care of the stuff when they had it. The system was never taken seriously and there were several people out there that just chucked it. Try finding a 32-X with all of the cables these days. If you find someone that has taken care of it, then you are lucky these days. It's like walking into Game Stop and seeing all of those loose discs and DS games. Nobody keeps anything anymore and that's why these things are so rare. Most gamers don't take care of the stuff the way that they should because consoles are transitional until the new one comes out.

[kgenthe]

I've been working on completing my 32x collection for the past year. I am only missing Spider-Man, WSB, and Night Trap.

I have seen far more copies of Spider-Man than WSB pop up on eBay.

I missed out on a complete Night Trap and Blackthorne that both went for $15. I forgot when it ended and never bid =/

Not sure if WSB is a trend or is actually becoming more rare.

[scooby105]

WSB has always been a bit hard to find. Two or three years back someone here picked one up on eBay and sold the manual to me (all that I was missing and he needed the box I think). I picked up most of my 32X stuff years ago and I was suprised how much WSB sold for. I think the complete game was over $50 several years ago, but don't quote me on that.

I agree with the point that 32X stuff wasn't taken care of very well. The combination of the system not doing well along with the cardboard boxes for most of the games was not a winning combo.

[grolt]

The 32X is a weird system to collect for, since it has such a small library of games it looks like an easy set to crack, but well over half the games command a pretty solid price, and a few even better than that. Those prices on WSB are getting pretty hefty, though. I bought a sealed copy during Christmas 2007 for $17.75; didn't think much of it...

[retrocollectorguy]

sounds like its some overhyped crap. I wouldnt even pay $2 for it.

[Baloo]

sounds like its some overhyped crap. I wouldnt even pay $2 for it.

World Series Baseball isn't really all that special for the 32x, in fact it's almost indistinguishable from WSB '95 on Genesis. Even the site claims that.

Spiderman is at least an original game.

[swlovinist]

I agree that prices on ebay are very subjective. Sega, after being bottom of the barrel in prices for over a decade, seems to be attracting collectors. Whenever this happens, the value goes up. Now dont get me wrong, there will always be folks on evilbay trying to ramp up the value of a game...but this game is rare and is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

[Baloo]

To be honest, I think it's because the AVGN made the Sega CD and 32x's presence known to the rest of the semi-casual retro community. Now the prices of everything has been jacked up on there.

[swlovinist]

To be honest, I think it's because the AVGN made the Sega CD and 32x's presence known to the rest of the semi-casual retro community. Now the prices of everything has been jacked up on there.


I think that it is much bigger than that. I think what it is is that people hit their mid to late 20s and get nostalgic about what games they had as a kid. They start collecting games and wolla, you have an entire generation of people remembering and wanting to play the same games.

Atari and Nintendo have really hit their stride with retro collectors.

Next I see Sega taking off.

[Press_Start]

I agree that prices on ebay are very subjective. Sega, after being bottom of the barrel in prices for over a decade, seems to be attracting collectors. Whenever this happens, the value goes up. Now dont get me wrong, there will always be folks on evilbay trying to ramp up the value of a game...but this game is rare and is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

Strongly disagree. That's saying if I buy WSB for $500 (heaven forbid), then everyone else should pay no less. It's that sort of logic resellers and pump cons relied on to hyper-inflate beyond imagination.

The internet age is a wonderful thing but it has come to the point where our actions (directly or indirectly) can potentially and significantly impact the world around us. The case with Ebay is store owners constantly base their value on what's selling. So, why should I fork over extra bills cause some cashhog in his mom's basement wants a king's ransom or some lobotomized rich monkey paid too much?

I understand rare games are hard to come by but there's a difference between appreciation gradually over time and pumped pure :bullshit:

[savageone]

So does this mean Championship Soccer '94 (Sega CD) is going to become worth something? I still consider it the single most rare officially released Sega CD title outside of perhaps the Dragon's Lair Demo CD.