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c0ldb33r
02-03-2009, 11:06 AM
I got this link via email today:

http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news/2008/pikmin_and_mario_power_tennis_powered_up_and_ready _for_wii_11212.html


Fun and challenging gameplay will delight a whole new generation, while some additional features will excite existing Mario Power Tennis and Pikmin fans.

Apparently you can use the wiimote to control the re-released Pikmin and Mario Tennis. Provided the price point is reasonable, this is a wonderful way to breathe new life into older games. BTW, sorry if this is a repost, I searched but didn't find anything.

Bojay1997
02-03-2009, 11:16 AM
I got this link via email today:

http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news/2008/pikmin_and_mario_power_tennis_powered_up_and_ready _for_wii_11212.html



Apparently you can use the wiimote to control the re-released Pikmin and Mario Tennis. Provided the price point is reasonable, this is a wonderful way to breathe new life into older games. BTW, sorry if this is a repost, I searched but didn't find anything.

The price point is $30, but based on the reviews of the Japanese versions, they may not be worth repurchasing if you already own them. The Wii controls don't necessarily improve some games, although I understand Pikmin is more fun with the ability to use the Wiimote.

CosmicMonkey
02-03-2009, 11:17 AM
I believe that Metroid Prime 1 & 2 are also getting the same treatment. Which is great if you like the control system in Prime 3, I suppose.

zektor
02-03-2009, 11:49 AM
They used "NEW PLAY CONTROL!" ten times in that article. How about "NEW GAMES!" instead?

8-bitNesMan
02-03-2009, 12:24 PM
They used "NEW PLAY CONTROL!" ten times in that article. How about "NEW GAMES!" instead?

Or more good VC releases. Or if you're going to keep rehashing old titles how about VC games with online play?

Nionel
02-03-2009, 01:12 PM
Mario Tennis has been selling well in Japan, despite what the reviews are saying. DK Jungle Beat and Pikmin are also available there, with the two Metroid Prime games, Chibi Robo, and Pikmin 2 coming later this year.

Maybe Nintendo thinks that re-releasing popular GC games will help attract "core" gamers to the Wii, though I would think that any "core" gamer that already owns these games isn't going to bother buying them again just for a Wii Remote control scheme, though some games like Jungle Beat do have additional content that has been added to the game. Personally, I'd prefer to see new games released, instead of a port of a game I've already played.

Neil Koch
02-03-2009, 01:14 PM
$30 is too high. The "new play control" would be a good gimmick for downloadable games. Have them be about $15 and it would be a much more attractive purchase. But then the Wii would have to have some sort of real storage solution.

swlovinist
02-03-2009, 02:05 PM
Nintendo will probably sell enough of these slightly modified games to make it worthwile for them. It is kind of frustrating to see them drag their heels on new game stuff.

fishsandwich
02-03-2009, 02:12 PM
I didn't see this addressed (sorry if it was):

Will these wii-enhanced games play on a Gamecube? (without the wii control, of course)

Bojay1997
02-03-2009, 02:27 PM
I didn't see this addressed (sorry if it was):

Will these wii-enhanced games play on a Gamecube? (without the wii control, of course)

They will not unfortunately.

Rob2600
02-03-2009, 03:00 PM
Mario Tennis has been selling well in Japan, despite what the reviews are saying. DK Jungle Beat and Pikmin are also available there, with the two Metroid Prime games, Chibi Robo, and Pikmin 2 coming later this year.

This is good news for me because I missed out on Pikmin, Chibi Robo, and DK Jungle Beat last generation. I think the $30 price is great too, especially considering these are highly-rated games...although $20 would be even better. :)

TheGam3r
02-03-2009, 04:52 PM
My dad says this is a great idead>Hope they redo Super smash bros melee and wave race blue storm

Rob2600
02-03-2009, 05:08 PM
Hope they redo Super smash bros melee and wave race blue storm

I'd love a Wii Wheel updated version of Burnout 2, but that will never happen.


Regarding Wave Race, Wii Sports Resort will include a MotionPlus-enhanced jet ski racing game. That's as close as we're going to get for now.

Garry Silljo
02-03-2009, 05:09 PM
My dad says this is a great idead>Hope they redo Super smash bros melee and wave race blue storm

I doubt they would do melee, since Brawl is out. Fire Emblam would work well, Odama maybe too.

The 1 2 P
02-03-2009, 05:59 PM
This reminds me of Microsoft rereleasing XBox originals via Xbox live at a price point of more than what you'd pay in stores. My opinion for Microsoft and Nintendo is that, if you are going to try and make money off of old titles, atleast add something new to the mix. Like another poster said, add online play to all the old games. That would atleast give people a reason to buy them again.

roushimsx
02-03-2009, 06:10 PM
This reminds me of Microsoft rereleasing XBox originals via Xbox live at a price point of more than what you'd pay in stores.

Only for some of the games, and even then the pricing scheme was generally fair. The games that were more expensive were just because they were part of the "best of Platinum Hits" line or something similar, or people were comparing the prices to used copies (which is apples to oranges). They did a pretty slam up job of promoting niche titles that never really found the attention that they deserved, too.

As far as these wii rereleases go, I'm all about a release of Metroid Prime that doesn't play like shit. The original control scheme was awful and restrictive.

Rob2600
02-03-2009, 06:19 PM
My opinion for Microsoft and Nintendo is that, if you are going to try and make money off of old titles, atleast add something new to the mix.

Nintendo is: updated controls. Whether or not that's a good thing, I'll have to wait and see.

Leo_A
02-03-2009, 08:25 PM
Not to mention widescreen and progressive scan support for the titles that didn't have that previousily.

They're doing plenty to justify selling these at that price point. If you guys want it cheap, buy the original GameCube versions.

crazyjackcsa
02-03-2009, 08:47 PM
I wonder if old saves will work? If be great if they did. I got stuck in the first two Primes due to a control scheme that frankly, I just couldn't cope with when it got too hectic.

Leo_A
02-03-2009, 09:40 PM
I'm sure they won't, these are Wii titles, not GameCube titles.

BydoEmpire
02-03-2009, 09:44 PM
I loved Mario Power Tennis, but I never played it as much as I wanted (too many other games around the same time). I'd definitely pick it up with Wii controls for $30. Wii Sports Tennis has one of the better uses of motion controls, so I'm pretty confident Nintendo can make Mario Tennis work well. I won't rebuy Pikmin, although I did enjoy it and would absolutely recommend the game.

c0ldb33r
02-03-2009, 09:47 PM
I've got the cube version of Pikmin 2 (which I've never played). I'll check out some reviews and if the wii version is decent then I might pick that up.

8-bitNesMan
03-23-2009, 10:16 AM
Bumping this for news that I found out yesterday. You CANNOT use a Gamecube controller with these Gamecube ports. I went to Gamestop and was going to buy Pikmin (the Cube version) used for $24.99. Both copies they had were badly scratched so I passed. I then thought about picking up this "NEW AND IMPROVED!" Pikmin thinking logically that I would be able to use a Cube controller on the Wii to play it. Wrong! I'm not going to get bent out of shape over it, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Anyone else agree?

The 1 2 P
03-23-2009, 11:07 AM
I then thought about picking up this "NEW AND IMPROVED!" Pikmin thinking logically that I would be able to use a Cube controller on the Wii to play it. Wrong! I'm not going to get bent out of shape over it, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Anyone else agree?

Well since the whole point of them rereleashing these games is so that they can tout the "new play control" then they obviously want people to play actually using the new controls. This is nothing new, as Sony did this same thing with Lair by forcing everyone to use the motion sensing controls for it(instead of just the analog sticks) so that they could tout their new PS3 motion sensing controller set up.

I personally wish they'd give the buyers the choice of what set-up to use but I also see why they wouldn't in this situation.

c0ldb33r
03-23-2009, 05:38 PM
Well since the whole point of them rereleashing these games is so that they can tout the "new play control" then they obviously want people to play actually using the new controls.
Really? that's bullshit. I'm all for the new controls, just make it an option.

8-bitNesMan
03-24-2009, 08:11 AM
Really? that's bullshit. I'm all for the new controls, just make it an option.

My sentiments exactly!

Press_Start
03-24-2009, 11:40 AM
Throwing my two cents in, there are two things that haven't been addressed as to why Nintendo did this.

1. The games are targeted towards their new core audience as the Wii has sold more than double than its predecessor. "Re-releasing" these games exposes them to much larger audience compared to the Gamecube era. As a result, Nintendo may get more revenue in return for their NWC games.

And the $30 price tag does help. GameStop sells Pikmin and Mario Tennis for $25 and $30 respectively. Ebay is a "cheaper" alternative for $10-15 each (also assuming you find this kind of pricing in independent game stores, IF any are available). Remember, playing these games requires the Gamecube controller, assuming most Wii owners don't have it. Adding another $10-15, the total amounts to $20-25, compared to $30 really isn't much of a bargain especially as I'm judging used to new.


Really? that's bullshit. I'm all for the new controls, just make it an option.

I agree, yet for a die-hard Nintendo fan, either you already bought Pikmin/Mario Tennis when it came out for the Gamecube or bought the Wii then got the games later with Gamecube controller. From my standpoint, Nintendo wanted to give what their audience missed out on.

2. Few months back, it was announced Gamestop made billions in profit and good percentage contributed to used game sales. Game companies were in uproar how easily GS turned a buck and started demanding payment for 2nd-hand transactions. With fat chance that happening, companies resorted to "re-releasing" their recent titles as a way to stick it to GS.

Actually, this point is more relevant to Capcom porting RE1 to the Wii than it is with Nintendo. The idea isn't too far-fetched when its been years since their release date, nowadays either you get them factory sealed costing an arm and a leg or used for a reasonable price, which is GS's forte. By bringing Pikmin/Mario Tennis into the mix, Nintendo gave consumers the option for a brand new game. This way, they net themselves cash that would have gone solely to GameStop and customers don't have to worry about conditions or where their games have been.

Sonicwolf
03-24-2009, 01:36 PM
I really hope Rogue Squadron 2 and 3 get this NPC treatment.