RGB on SNES?

[Nico87]

Is this possible? At the moment I'm using the AV-cable that came with the console and I've connected it to a PS2 scart cable, and that works just fine, but I think it's safe to say that RGB is better than SCART. Anyway, is it possible to get RGB on SNES?

[izarate]

Is this possible? At the moment I'm using the AV-cable that came with the console and I've connected it to a PS2 scart cable, and that works just fine, but I think it's safe to say that RGB is better than SCART. Anyway, is it possible to get RGB on SNES?

Wait, do you mean RGB or YPrPb? Reading your message, I think that you're confusing the terms. SCART isn't a video format, it's a video connector, like coaxial, BNC and such. RGB is a video format like composite, S-Video, YPrPb, etc.

In case you actually mean RGB, yes, the SNES can do it, you just need an RGB SCART (European standard) or RGB 21 pin Gameport (Japanese standard) cable and a TV set that supports RGB.

SNES RGB SCART cable:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-24-77-1-49-en-15-snes+rgb-70-64.html

Take in mind that the 21 pin Japanese Gameport connector is physically similar to the SCART connector but the internal pinout is different.


If you mean YPrPb (usually called "component") then no, the SNES can't do it. You'll need an external RGB to component transcoder, NOT adapter.

Aptus1
http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/multi.php?mycode=apt1

CSY-2100
http://www.cypress.com.tw/product.php?PId=2264&CId=007&CName=Video%20Processors&SR=0

[Nico87]

Great! Bought one of those from Play Asia. Just hope it works.

[Trebuken]

I think you need the original model SNES as well.

[duo_r]

bought my RGB SNES cable from ebay for like $9 shipped, and I use it with a similar box to the CSY one that was linked. SNES looks amazing in component video (transcoded from RGB).

[drewman21]

I have mine setup with a Jrok 4 and the component works great. The SNES 2 does need some work to get the RGB lines and s-video output working but it is do-able.

[XianXi]

Not much of a difference between s-video and component on the SNES to justify the price diff on the mods.

[duo_r]

Not true, I had a Monster S-video cable and I can tell a significant between that and Component video.


Not much of a difference between s-video and component on the SNES to justify the price diff on the mods.

[XianXi]

Monster s-video cable is pointless. Where did you get the s-video from?

[duo_r]

I had a cheapie s-video cable that actually looked worse than standard composite, and then got the Monster S-video cable from ebay pretty cheap. I am confident the Monster S-video cable is the highest Svideo quality on SNES you can get, so I think I have a good opinion on how it compares to Component video.



Monster s-video cable is pointless. Where did you get the s-video from?

[XianXi]

I was talking about the s-video signal not the cable. Did you get the signal straight from the SNES board or from an external encoder?

[duo_r]

oh sorry, misunderstood you. The original US SNES has S-video built in the AV port, you just need the correct cable.

The SNES2 is a different story however, much more difficult:

http://www.gamesx.com/rgbadd/snes2svid.htm

[XianXi]

Now I understand why your s-video was crappy from the other cable. A lot of the cheap "s-video" cables actually use a converted composite signal with a s-video hook up. This is why the monster cable was better. The better brand cables actually use the correct pins for s-video.

On my SNES I just ended up modding mine and fitting s-video port since it's hard to tell which cables actually use the s-video pins. Unfortunately when I ordered one I got the converted composite cable. Just pure yuck.

These are the actual pictures I got, I seemed to have deleted he SNES pics but this is the same cable on the N64. Notice the checkboard display.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4876/svid1ga3.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2108/svid2lf6.jpg

[duo_r]

cool, yeah what i learned now is if you get one of the crappy S-video cables, you can easily modify it to correct wiring. You can also do this if you have extra Composite SNES cables to spare. I might do a posting on it sometime.

[GaijinPunch]

Now I understand why your s-video was crappy from the other cable.

That's b/c it's S-Video. There is simply too much signal loss for it to look good (once you've seen it in RGB). I've used an XRGB2 in 15khz mode (passthru) which loses little, if any of the signal. I assume RGB->Component w/ a JRok would be comparable.

[duo_r]

actually it wasn't because it was S-video, it was because it was a poorly made S-video cable. I am not kidding, it looked worse than the standard composite cable. I paid dirt cheap price on ebay, but I got what I paid for. After I obtained the Monster Video Cable, I saw a noticeable improvement over composite Video. But after having that for several years and getting so many new systems with hi def video output, that no longer cut it. The transition to RGB > Component has finally paid off, and I can notice a difference.

All this and I used to be totally content with Nintendo on a RF switchbox in the 80's.....man the times have changed.


That's b/c it's S-Video. There is simply too much signal loss for it to look good (once you've seen it in RGB). I've used an XRGB2 in 15khz mode (passthru) which loses little, if any of the signal. I assume RGB->Component w/ a JRok would be comparable.

[ccovell]

[edit] never mind...

Um.... go RGB!