Saturn games on an HD LCD monitor

[Iron Draggon]

anyone else ever try this yet? my parents just bought me a new 24" HP HD monitor with portrait & landscape display capabilities, that I'm hoping will allow me to play all my Saturn SHMUPS in true arcade fashion someday... the ones that feature arcade screen orientation options should work well on a monitor that can be rotated 90 degrees, shouldn't they? as long as they're made for a monitor that rotates 90 degrees clockwise... otherwise I'm gonna be challenged to play them all upside down... doesn't sound like much fun... so I hope it works out the way I want it to... if so, it's gonna be THE BOMB!

[skaar]

You have a VGA cable for the Saturn?

Keep in mind it'll be stretched out.

[Iron Draggon]

no, but I do have a VGA converter box with RCA connections... so I'm more worried about the monitor's rotation software defeating my purposes... it's supposed to be for letting you rotate web pages, but if there's no way to switch it off, then the arcade modes of all those games are still gonna be displayed at the wrong angle... we'll see whenever I get it all set up... the monitor will be delivered tomorrow, but I dunno how long it's gonna be before I can get my Saturn moved up here to test it... I may have to try it with an emulator before I can try it with the actual hardware, cause I just don't have enough room to have my Saturn and all its games here too yet... I've only got all my handhelds and their games moved up here so far, and all my PC games... but as soon as I can afford to move into a bigger place, I'll move all the rest of my consoles and games up here too... meanwhile, hopefully I'll at least have a Wii here, so maybe I could try it with some WiiWare games, if they ever offer any that feature arcade screen orientations... know of any?

[le geek]

Did they ever make S-video connectors for the saturn? Something like that make be worth tracking down... Also does the TV have a non stretch mode... both of those have helped with a Neo-Geo signal on an HDTV quite a bit...

[chrisbid]

saturn s-video cable are quite common and affordable

for those who can spend a few more dollars, import an RGB Scart cable and invest in a Scart -> Component convertor

its incredible

[Julio III]

saturn s-video cable are quite common and affordable

for those who can spend a few more dollars, import an RGB Scart cable and invest in a Scart -> Component convertor

its incredible

Do you know where to get a scart to component convertor for a reasonable price??

I currently am running my Saturn to a 32" 720P LCD TV using RGB Scart. Some games are beautiful, like Donpachi in TATE mode. But some are horrible. But then I run my PS2 via component and the games which don't run in progressive scan mode (so most of them) look horrible too.

[chrisbid]

Do you know where to get a scart to component convertor for a reasonable price??

I currently am running my Saturn to a 32" 720P LCD TV using RGB Scart. Some games are beautiful, like Donpachi in TATE mode. But some are horrible. But then I run my PS2 via component and the games which don't run in progressive scan mode (so most of them) look horrible too.


there are several on ebay right now for a BIN of 44.95

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-SCART-RGB-to-YUV-Component-Video-Converter-Adapter_W0QQitemZ220333416073QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

keep in mind that it will come with a european AC adapter, you will need to pick up a replacement US adapter


for scart cables go here

http://www.consolegoods.co.uk/



one drawback with the saturn specifically is with only these two parts there is no sound. i got around this by picking up a cheap scart switchbox that includes an A/V out. This killed two birds with one stone for me, as i also picked up scart cables for my genesis, snes, and neo geo at the consolegoods web site

after it was all said and done, i spent a bit over 100 dollars for everything, but the results were well worth it


now im sad there is no rgb solution for the turbo duo that doesnt require modding :(


as for results, i find keeping my television in 4:3 mode (save for the rare game that has widescreen) cleans up the picture quite nicely. but i have a rear projection HDTV, results may differ for LCD, Plasma, or Tube HD sets

[duo_r]

Hey guys, some info for you on RGB to component boxes.


http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6164.msg104002#msg104002

and another post here:

http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3505.msg24167#msg24167

instead of having to buy a box, I modded my Atlona box, but instead of wiring coming out the back, I installed a mini-jack for the stereo output. Here is a snap of that:

Audio jack is right below the green LED:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6954/img0011dj6.jpg

and I also installed a DB9 port so I can also hookup other systems with a custom RGB cable:

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2425/img0013bm4.jpg

Oh and the PC Engine / Duo looks awesome in component. When the system is modded properly, you get an amazing picture.

[Iron Draggon]

OMG, this new monitor does everything that I hoped it would, and then some!

HP w2408h rocks the house!

First off, the bad news, it has NO built-in ports for anything other than VGA, HDMI, and USB, so you'll have to build or buy a box to use it as a TV monitor. HP dropped the ball on that one, but fortunatey a trip to ebay produced a box that allows it to receive analog video and RCA video, as well as providing a TV tuner, DVR, and image capture, all for only $36 shipped from Hong Kong. A more exp[ensive box would provide HDTV and video, but this will do for now. All I need it to display is PC games and Wii games, so HD isn't necessary for me right now, but eventually I'll spend a hundred or two on an HD box.

Anyhow, once you find a box to suit your needs and enhance its potential, a simple checkbox disables this monitor's automatic screen rotation, and you can rotate the display 90 degrees, 180 degrees, or 270 degrees! So you can run every Saturn game that features an arcade mode in true arcade style, and even play all your scrollers in the opposite direction, while upside down!

How cool is that?

Sadly, I still haven't experienced all this glory yet, as my Saturn is currently stored at my parents' address, but as soon as I have a new address with enough space to move the rest of my game stuff in it, I'll be able to run any game in any direction, just with a few clicks! And all for only $400, plus tax and converter box! Yep, a little steep, but totally worth it for the capabilities!

Native resolution is 1920x1200@60hz, and fully capable of HDTV 1080p, so you can adjust it as necessary to suit any need. What more could you want?

The only gripe is the lack of more built-in ports and accessories, but the solutions are as cheap or expensive as you want. An ATI box runs over $200 right now, so it's prolly safe to assume that including those extra ports and accessories would've pushed the cost up to $600, and that wasn't HP's goal with this monitor. Not sure even they know what their goal was with this monitor, but whatever it was, they achieved it! This monitor totally ROCKS!

[duo_r]

there is a RGB to VGA box available for like $30.


OMG, this new monitor does everything that I hoped it would, and then some!

HP w2408h rocks the house!

First off, the bad news, it has NO built-in ports for anything other than VGA, HDMI, and USB, so you'll have to build or buy a box to use it as a TV monitor. HP dropped the ball on that one, but fortunatey a trip to ebay produced a box that allows it to receive analog video and RCA video, as well as providing a TV tuner, DVR, and image capture, all for only $36 shipped from Hong Kong. A more exp[ensive box would provide HDTV and video, but this will do for now. All I need it to display is PC games and Wii games, so HD isn't necessary for me right now, but eventually I'll spend a hundred or two on an HD box.

Anyhow, once you find a box to suit your needs and enhance its potential, a simple checkbox disables this monitor's automatic screen rotation, and you can rotate the display 90 degrees, 180 degrees, or 270 degrees! So you can run every Saturn game that features an arcade mode in true arcade style, and even play all your scrollers in the opposite direction, while upside down!

How cool is that?

Sadly, I still haven't experienced all this glory yet, as my Saturn is currently stored at my parents' address, but as soon as I have a new address with enough space to move the rest of my game stuff in it, I'll be able to run any game in any direction, just with a few clicks! And all for only $400, plus tax and converter box! Yep, a little steep, but totally worth it for the capabilities!

Native resolution is 1920x1200@60hz, and fully capable of HDTV 1080p, so you can adjust it as necessary to suit any need. What more could you want?

The only gripe is the lack of more built-in ports and accessories, but the solutions are as cheap or expensive as you want. An ATI box runs over $200 right now, so it's prolly safe to assume that including those extra ports and accessories would've pushed the cost up to $600, and that wasn't HP's goal with this monitor. Not sure even they know what their goal was with this monitor, but whatever it was, they achieved it! This monitor totally ROCKS!

[StealthLurker]

Nice. As much as love CRTs (via RGB), the convenience of flat panels for TATE is very nice. My old setup on a 24"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/Misc/m24_ikaruga_3.jpg

Since then, I've upgraded my desk mounting arm to support a larger monitor (up to 30 lbs) and picked up a 28" pc monitor (currently looking for a tate-able mount to support a 32"). Can't recommend this type of setup enough for an easy, clean lcd style tate-able setup... JPN xbox360 shmups look great.

To make switching between games and screen sizes even easier, I got a 46" flat panel next to my pc monitor in the computer room. Various consoles all hooked into a DVDO VP50 video processor outputting to 1 hdmi cable. That cable is then fed into a POWERED hdmi splitter. One output goes to the TV and the other output goes to the tate-able monitor. So no matter what system, can play on a "large" hori screen (or rock the dual screens) or play on a vert capable screen all the while having good quality de-interlacing and rescaling of older non hd video game consoles (like import ps2 or saturn shmups) via a dedicated video processor.... I fell in love with options/configurability and PQ of the DVDO VPs, I got additional units on my other HD sets (DVDO VP30+ABT card, DVDO Edge, DVDO iScan HD+)

For older consoles that support RGB (or have been modded to support RGB) I'm running them into an XRGB-2+ outputting to Audio Authority VGA to Component device and finally into the DVDO VP50 for final processing (superior re-scaling to TV's internal scaler along with a multitude of other options). For consoles I have that can only do composite or s-video at best I route them directly into the VP and let it do it's magic.

.