The Street Fighter IV thread

[SurfKahuna]

I won Round 1 of the GameStop tournament at the Avondale location. If anyone ever wants to play me, I'm "SurfKahuna" on live. Add me! ;)

[smork]

Just picked this up last night. Very difficult to find in stock! I finally asked someone at the third store I went to - they had a few, but behind the counter. They tried to get me to buy the arcade stick as well -- which, while cool, is probably not substantially better than the DOA 360 stick I already have.

Or is it??

[Damaramu]

Did you buy the CE or the regular edition?

[G-Boobie]

Just picked this up last night. Very difficult to find in stock! I finally asked someone at the third store I went to - they had a few, but behind the counter. They tried to get me to buy the arcade stick as well -- which, while cool, is probably not substantially better than the DOA 360 stick I already have.

Or is it??

Unless it's the tournament edition, it's trouble.

Check out the thread about defects and manufacturing issues in the tech talk forum at SRK(I'd link to it, but the server is currently down). Here's a link (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172875)to the news story on 1UP where Mad Catz addresses the problem.

On the other hand, they were going for over a hundred bucks on Ebay last week, so if you want to make some quick cash...

[smork]

Unless it's the tournament edition, it's trouble.

Check out the thread about defects and manufacturing issues in the tech talk forum at SRK(I'd link to it, but the server is currently down). Here's a link (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172875)to the news story on 1UP where Mad Catz addresses the problem.

I'm in Japan, so it's the Hori, not the Mad Catz stick. You can see it here:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-dd-77-c-49-en-15-street+fighter-70-36al-43-bn.html

It looks identical to the DOA stick except the face label.


Did you buy the CE or the regular edition?

AFAIK there's only one edition in Japan. I only saw one advertised - but since it's difficult to get in the stores there could be other versions.

[realdeal]

ok now who hear feels like they a expert with street fighter i feel like i can beat anybody haha ....this cool to see other people enjoying the game i need to calm down jk cheers http://photosnag.com/img/3012/y09w0131xdtc/82(2).gif

[XYXZYZ]

Yippee, the female characters' alt outfit package is up now. Let's go SHOPPING for a new DRESS!! Squeeeeeeeee!

[Cobra Commander]

Last night I fought a very proficient Ryu player. He was GOOD. I was Zangief. I beat his ass by spamming the shit out of his cyclone attack. I know that guy was pissed.

[Nirvana]

Seth honestly is not that bad. I can beat the game on the hardest difficulty with Cammy. Against Seth, you just have to be patient. You can't outright attack him. However, he does so much that he leaves himself open a lot more than you think. His Dhalsim punch, his sonic booms, and that weird move that vacuums you towards him are all great times to jump fierce into a combo.

Have any of you guys tried the trials yet? I'm having a really difficult time with Cammy's second hard trial. I can't even land that medium punch after a light kick consistently.

(Edit: I absolutely love the MadCatz Gamepads. I managed to snatch a Ken and Ryu. It's so easy to do half circles and quartercircles with them.)

[Wolfrider31]

Seth honestly is not that bad. I can beat the game on the hardest difficulty with Cammy. Against Seth, you just have to be patient. You can't outright attack him. However, he does so much that he leaves himself open a lot more than you think. His Dhalsim punch, his sonic booms, and that weird move that vacuums you towards him are all great times to jump fierce into a combo.

Have any of you guys tried the trials yet? I'm having a really difficult time with Cammy's second hard trial. I can't even land that medium punch after a light kick consistently.

(Edit: I absolutely love the MadCatz Gamepads. I managed to snatch a Ken and Ryu. It's so easy to do half circles and quartercircles with them.)

The trials are frustrating. There are lots of weird timing issues with the 360 pad - I'll probably try them out again when I grab one of the fight pads.

[c0ldb33r]

I was Zangief. I beat his ass by spamming the shit out of his cyclone attack. I know that guy was pissed.
arrrggghhhh. I hate people like you! :mad:

[MarioMania]

Will Capcom do a PSP version of this Game??

[Nirvana]

Will Capcom do a PSP version of this Game??

I don't think so, at least anytime soon. There's really too much to handle o_O

[Arcade_Ness]

Yippee, the female characters' alt outfit package is up now. Let's go SHOPPING for a new DRESS!! Squeeeeeeeee!

Bah I need new outfits NOW! Too bad us PS3 players have to wait until Thursday. I've been trying to get better at using Rose. Her Ultra = Shamwow!

[c0ldb33r]

Her Ultra = Shamwow!
Oh my God, I'm going to do a temporary thread derailment here, but it's worth it.

I was at a Zellers store last week (it's a Canadian chain like Walmart) and I noticed they had Shamwows for sale. They had a DVD of that commercial playing on a TV, signs up saying AS SEEN ON TV, etc... I went over to look at the box because these things just amaze me.

Then it happens. I notice a female employee standing next to a spill. She's young. She's pretty. She looks confused and concerned. The spill is a puddle of blue liquid by her feet. The puddle is about a foot in diameter. She's waiting for someone to come clean it up - I guess she's standing there to be sure that no one slips and falls.

I grab the box of Shamwows, rip open the package and yell I WILL DEAL WITH THIS! I run over and quickly soak up the blue liquid just by laying the shamwow on top of the puddle. It immediately soaks into the shamwow. I twist the shamwow out and all the liquid runs out into a near by bucket. The floor is immediately clean and safe for other customers. The shamwow? It's perfect. It's dry. Somehow despite the blue colour of the liquid, the shamwow is still golden in colour.

The female employee is ecstatic. She's beside herself. She gives me a huge kiss and tells me that if I want, I can have her. Right there on the floor. A huge crowd emerges out of nowhere and they're cheering and chanting SHAMWOW, SHAMWOW, SHAMWOW, SHAMWOW. Then suddenly they start chanting for me to give a speech.

I addressed the crowd, "Don't thank me. I didn't do anything. Thank the Shamwow. The Shamwow did everything. This little piece of cloth has more sucking power than a hooker using a vaccuum. How can you tell that it's good? It's from Germany. You know that they make good stuff". The crowd erupted into cheers and applause.

Then I woke up. I stopped daydreaming. The employee was still standing by the puddle. I put the Shamwow box down and walked away towards the electronics department. On my way I passed another Zellers employee carrying a mop who I imagine was going to wipe up that spill.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/th_shamwow.jpg (http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/?action=view&current=shamwow.jpg)

[Nirvana]

Bah I need new outfits NOW! Too bad us PS3 players have to wait until Thursday. I've been trying to get better at using Rose. Her Ultra = Shamwow!

I actually faced a pretty good Rose online yesterday. I hate facing characters you normally don't see people use. Not sure what to expect from them o_O

[Cobra Commander]

arrrggghhhh. I hate people like you! :mad:
Heh. Well to be fair, I don't own the game and I'm sure I won't for a long time. I only fought online that one time to get the easy ahceivement. Now that Street Fighter is out of my system, I can go back to the NES where I belong.

[CosmicMonkey]

Will Capcom do a PSP version of this Game??

Gazing into my Crystal Ball whilst wearing my magical Psychic Y-Fronts........

I honestly think we will see SFIV in some form on the PSP. It's certainly a powerful little machine and Sony really needs killer titles for it. The recent announcements of Assassins Creed, Rock Band, Little Big Planet, Motorstorm and Resistance: Retribution are great news. SFIV would really be the icing on the cake.

Obviously it won't be an exact port of the arcade/home versions, but I still think the machine could handle a pretty good looking version of the game with all the gameplay intact. I certainly think there would be less characters included though. I don't reckon it'd be billed as a direct port, maybe something like SFIV: Compact Edition.

[Wolfrider31]

Cue bitter rant warning.

I played my last match in SFIV today. I'm done. I went from loving this game the first time I played it with a group of friends to despising it after playing for a week. And before anyone asks: Yes, I suck at it, and that's not the reason I hate it.

To start, I'm a huge fan of Virtua Fighter and I play 5 online a fair bit. My win loss ratio is about 50-50 but I started playing the game around 3 and got my ass handed to me by each game until I slowly started to understand the system. I mention this because I want people to realize that putting "work" into learning a fighting game is not something I'm opposed too.

But this? I tried to stay with it, really. I kept expecting there to be something more to this game, something deeper that I could latch on to and go, "Ooooh, I see what this game is about now." But nope. That moment never came. I went through the game unlocking all the characters (all the time wondering why the game was forcing me to play cheaply against boss Seth instead of actually teaching me the game) and then did the challenge modes and then hopped into online play.

Here's a run down of my online experience:

1) Select player.
2) Opponent selects a) Ryu, b) Ken, c) Sagat.
3) Enter Match
4) Opponent runs to one side of the screen.
5) Opponent spams fireball attack.
6) Rinse/repeat.

This is 95% of my matches. I won't go into why I think it's cheap (just to avoid people claiming that IV is perfectly balanced - it's not) or why I think the game doesn't provide you with near enough options for dealing with that kind of play (one move per character to potentially get you out of that situation is not balance) but my gripe is this: Why should I spend 60 dollars on a game when almost all the matches I play are going to look exactly the same?

And why, when I have it set to "same skill" does it throw me against opponents that have the same BP as those at the top of the leaderboards? What's it using to measure skill?

But that's just the tip of the iceberg for me. The controls are awful. No. Stop. Don't tell me that that's what I should expect when playing on the 360. No. Stop. Don't tell me that it plays fine with the fightstick or the fightpad. Why, after spending 60 bucks on a game should I be forced to shell out another 40 - 100 so the game actually works?

And I'm not an SF n00b either. Third Strike? That was a GREAT fighting game. Why? Because no matter what your opponent did, you could deal with it. It had depth, complexity, and was balanced as all get out.

This? This is a complete mess. Not that I'm attacking those of you who are legitimately a fan of the game - if you see something in it that I can't then fine by me. But honestly, I think IV has a way's to go before it can match up with Smash Brothers, let alone Virtua Fighter and Third Strike.

/Rant over.

[DiabolicalAdvocate]

I agree that the game isn't balanced. It's too easy to exploit certain characters with projectiles.

I main with Cammy, Guile is my secondary, and I'm trying to learn Viper, though she may be a lost cause. I feel like 75-80% of my matches are against Ken, and they play out in very similar ways. No striking of any kind, just fireballs and uppercuts. Ken is far too easy to use, and everyone knows this, so they use him to up their BP.

I'm not quite as frustrated as you are yet, but I'm headed in that direction.

[Mayhem]

I've not had many fireball spammers at all (although plenty of Ken and Ryu players) but I've just delivered the beats on them when I've encountered them. Personally many people I know are just doing Player matches either with randoms (better selection of characters usually cos BP don't matter) or friends. I'm just delving into Ranked occasionally to try and get the 10-in-a-row achievement but I don't think I'll be using it that often myself; Player matches have been where it's at for me so far.

As for Ken himself, there are reasons he's tiered way below Ryu and especially Sagat; his recovery time sucks compared to them for starters. Exploit it. Fake him into dragon punch and nail his arse, every... single... time.

[G-Boobie]

I understand the pain of dealing with shoto spammers, but there are ways around it for every character even if you exclude jumping in safely.

Bison has his head stomp, Honda has the Sumo Splash (in three different flavors!), Blanka has his river run slide and cowards crouch, Vega can wall jump, Gouken has his ridiculous half-screen punch thing, Viper has a high jump and her seismic toss, etc. etc. etc.

Then there are teleports, and the best possible way of dealing with fireball spam when facing shoto protos: EX specials. They might get you with an EX fireball, but if you switch your advance up enough, you can see it coming. My favorite tactic is to use Balrog and headbutt my way across the screen until I get a couple super meter bars filled up. Then it's EX dash straight/dash upper all day, linked into a super or ultra. That's one seriously dead Ken, and never mind the hadoukens and DPs.

So far, I think the game is actually pretty balanced, although there are obviously a couple of characters that stand taller than everyone else... Just like in every Street Fighter game ever. It's like that in any fighting game, actually. Perfect balance is a myth.

Someone will figure out a sure fire way of avoiding Sagat's fireball trap soon and he'll fall a spot in the tier list. An El Fuerte player will figure out how to exploit some throw of his and loop it over and over, and he'll rise a tier. It's impossible to know for sure where the balance is yet: it's only been out for, what, six months in the arcade, and two weeks on console?

[c0ldb33r]

This thread got me thinking... I don't think I've yet encountered a Roofus player online.

Has anyone else? How was it?

[Icarus Moonsight]

Oh my God, I'm going to do a temporary thread derailment here, but it's worth it.

I was at a Zellers store last week (it's a Canadian chain like Walmart) and I noticed they had Shamwows for sale. They had a DVD of that commercial playing on a TV, signs up saying AS SEEN ON TV, etc... I went over to look at the box because these things just amaze me.

Then it happens. I notice a female employee standing next to a spill. She's young. She's pretty. She looks confused and concerned. The spill is a puddle of blue liquid by her feet. The puddle is about a foot in diameter. She's waiting for someone to come clean it up - I guess she's standing there to be sure that no one slips and falls.

I grab the box of Shamwows, rip open the package and yell I WILL DEAL WITH THIS! I run over and quickly soak up the blue liquid just by laying the shamwow on top of the puddle. It immediately soaks into the shamwow. I twist the shamwow out and all the liquid runs out into a near by bucket. The floor is immediately clean and safe for other customers. The shamwow? It's perfect. It's dry. Somehow despite the blue colour of the liquid, the shamwow is still golden in colour.

The female employee is ecstatic. She's beside herself. She gives me a huge kiss and tells me that if I want, I can have her. Right there on the floor. A huge crowd emerges out of nowhere and they're cheering and chanting SHAMWOW, SHAMWOW, SHAMWOW, SHAMWOW. Then suddenly they start chanting for me to give a speech.

I addressed the crowd, "Don't thank me. I didn't do anything. Thank the Shamwow. The Shamwow did everything. This little piece of cloth has more sucking power than a hooker using a vaccuum. How can you tell that it's good? It's from Germany. You know that they make good stuff". The crowd erupted into cheers and applause.

Then I woke up. I stopped daydreaming. The employee was still standing by the puddle. I put the Shamwow box down and walked away towards the electronics department. On my way I passed another Zellers employee carrying a mop who I imagine was going to wipe up that spill.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/th_shamwow.jpg (http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/?action=view&current=shamwow.jpg)

Before you snapped out of it you should have told her, "You're gonna love my nuts!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0cgQkT4ScQ

Dancemix!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xOA82k2IK4

[Vinnysdad]

This thread got me thinking... I don't think I've yet encountered a Roofus player online.

Has anyone else? How was it?


I have. The guy knew how to use Roofus and pull off all his moves but the character seems weak and all the moves were easy to dodge or block. I beat him with Guile my new favorite character.

[Daft Punk]

This thread got me thinking... I don't think I've yet encountered a Roofus player online.

Has anyone else? How was it?

I have , they are usually just do a bunch of cheap throws over and over.

[ubersaurus]

I have , they are usually just do a bunch of cheap throws over and over.

You know, you have equal access to throws too. They aren't that hard to reverse, either, especially if you know it's coming.

[ubersaurus]

Cue bitter rant warning.

I played my last match in SFIV today. I'm done. I went from loving this game the first time I played it with a group of friends to despising it after playing for a week. And before anyone asks: Yes, I suck at it, and that's not the reason I hate it.

To start, I'm a huge fan of Virtua Fighter and I play 5 online a fair bit. My win loss ratio is about 50-50 but I started playing the game around 3 and got my ass handed to me by each game until I slowly started to understand the system. I mention this because I want people to realize that putting "work" into learning a fighting game is not something I'm opposed too.

But this? I tried to stay with it, really. I kept expecting there to be something more to this game, something deeper that I could latch on to and go, "Ooooh, I see what this game is about now." But nope. That moment never came. I went through the game unlocking all the characters (all the time wondering why the game was forcing me to play cheaply against boss Seth instead of actually teaching me the game) and then did the challenge modes and then hopped into online play.

Here's a run down of my online experience:

1) Select player.
2) Opponent selects a) Ryu, b) Ken, c) Sagat.
3) Enter Match
4) Opponent runs to one side of the screen.
5) Opponent spams fireball attack.
6) Rinse/repeat.

This is 95% of my matches. I won't go into why I think it's cheap (just to avoid people claiming that IV is perfectly balanced - it's not) or why I think the game doesn't provide you with near enough options for dealing with that kind of play (one move per character to potentially get you out of that situation is not balance) but my gripe is this: Why should I spend 60 dollars on a game when almost all the matches I play are going to look exactly the same?

And why, when I have it set to "same skill" does it throw me against opponents that have the same BP as those at the top of the leaderboards? What's it using to measure skill?

But that's just the tip of the iceberg for me. The controls are awful. No. Stop. Don't tell me that that's what I should expect when playing on the 360. No. Stop. Don't tell me that it plays fine with the fightstick or the fightpad. Why, after spending 60 bucks on a game should I be forced to shell out another 40 - 100 so the game actually works?

And I'm not an SF n00b either. Third Strike? That was a GREAT fighting game. Why? Because no matter what your opponent did, you could deal with it. It had depth, complexity, and was balanced as all get out.

This? This is a complete mess. Not that I'm attacking those of you who are legitimately a fan of the game - if you see something in it that I can't then fine by me. But honestly, I think IV has a way's to go before it can match up with Smash Brothers, let alone Virtua Fighter and Third Strike.

/Rant over.

3rd Strike was a weak tourney game because you could get out of anything. There was no incentive to attack, and less incentive to use any of the skills learned for every other 2d fighter. No zoning. No trapping. No rushdown, because doing any of these, they could just parry out of it.

If you're seriously having trouble with fireball spam, you need to work on your spacing. you want to jump from a position where they won't be able to anti air you when you're coming in, but close enough that you can encourage them to stop fireballing. That's Street Fighter 101 shit right there. People have been dealing with it since 1991. All it takes is experience and a desire to actually improve.

As for controls, I've played on arcade sticks since 2000 for consoles, and I'm not having any problems. If you don't want to shell out for the controller the game was made for, that's entirely up to you. But I recommend it.

[Daft Punk]

You know, you have equal access to throws too. They aren't that hard to reverse, either, especially if you know it's coming.

I know I just hate using them at all. Im the no block no throw kinda player. Ive learned though on this one you have no choice but to block. I guess I just need to learn how to throw better.

[Famidrive-16]

But honestly, I think IV has a way's to go before it can match up with Smash Brothers

ohhhh man

[c0ldb33r]

...That's Street Fighter 101 shit right there. People have been dealing with it since 1991...
I'd refer everyone to the Street Fighter Anniversary disc that includes a video tutorial on how-to succeed at Street Fighter.

[Nirvana]

Post your win %.

Mine is 66.99%. Not great, but a lot of my losses came from when I was first getting used to all of the stuff. Now I am getting 15 game winning streaks pretty consistently.

[Arcade_Ness]

Yes finally Femme Fatale Pack is on PSN! Get! After a short stint in ranked matches, I decided to switch back to player matches. I don't let losing in this game affect me. I should note I just got the trophy for winning ten matches, and I've played a little bit over a hundred matches. So yeah I'm pretty terrible, but I don't let it detract from having fun. For me I just enjoy the thrill of battle.

After training with Rose for a long time, I came back to Cammy, and I think I've improved with her. I still can't do her aerial cannon dive, or hooligan combo(which is hard to pull off at all and I'm not sure it's worth the effort). Before I quit my last session I was facing a scrub using Chun Li, who didn't know how to use her specials, and kept spamming her lightning kick. I proceeding to beat him down with Cammy and Rose. At some point he must of given up on Chun Li, so he tried to be cheap with Zangief. I lost one round to his cheapness and I was determined to show him the error of his ways. I couldn't get the job done with Rose, as I was caught up in his damn command throws. So I switch to Cammy, used my Ultra when I needed to, and defeated him.

Offtopic I did get a chuckle at the ShamWow story Coldbeer :) I was hoping it was true, because that would've been epic.

[Nirvana]

Yes finally Femme Fatale Pack is on PSN! Get! After a short stint in ranked matches, I decided to switch back to player matches. I don't let losing in this game affect me. I should note I just got the trophy for winning ten matches, and I've played a little bit over a hundred matches. So yeah I'm pretty terrible, but I don't let it detract from having fun. For me I just enjoy the thrill of battle.

After training with Rose for a long time, I came back to Cammy, and I think I've improved with her. I still can't do her aerial cannon dive, or hooligan combo(which is hard to pull off at all and I'm not sure it's worth the effort). Before I quit my last session I was facing a scrub using Chun Li, who didn't know how to use her specials, and kept spamming her lightning kick. I proceeding to beat him down with Cammy and Rose. At some point he must of given up on Chun Li, so he tried to be cheap with Zangief. I lost one round to his cheapness and I was determined to show him the error of his ways. I couldn't get the job done with Rose, as I was caught up in his damn command throws. So I switch to Cammy, used my Ultra when I needed to, and defeated him.

Offtopic I did get a chuckle at the ShamWow story Coldbeer :) I was hoping it was true, because that would've been epic.

Oh dude, it definitely is. People seriously never see it coming if you never use it in the first round. It really throws people off, especially Zangiefs. Once they start spamming the lariat, spiral arrow all day.

[Overbite]

Throws aren't cheap, fireball spamming isnt cheap, doing one move over and over isn't cheap. If you can't avoid it then you're just bad. Don't blame the game for your lack of skill.

[Nirvana]

Throws aren't cheap, fireball spamming isnt cheap, doing one move over and over isn't cheap. If you can't avoid it then you're just bad. Don't blame the game for your lack of skill.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Nothing is cheap about this game.

Well, unless you want the full arcade experience and buy the limited edition arcade stick >_>

[Arcade_Ness]

Too true, you just have to find a way to counter your opponent. I had a Ken who kept doing shoryukens, so I just jumped up and air threw him until he changed his tactics.

[Wolfrider31]

ohhhh man

You know, I think the full sentence there might have changed what I said ... just a little.

Actual line: But honestly, I think IV has a way's to go before it can match up with Smash Brothers, let alone Virtua Fighter and Third Strike.

The "let alone" part that you left out indicates that I clearly think Smash Brothers is at the bottom tier of the fighting game pile. Nice try though.

[jedimind7]

Just got the game a couple hours ago. After a very brief training mode with Ryu I went ahead and did arcade mode on medium. Other than Bison and Zangief giving me minor problems, I was able to get up to Seth pretty easy. First round was nothing. I thought this was going to be a piece of cake and was wondering why I kept hearing so many complaints. I soon found out:(
After 35 attempts(I know because I counted) I just gave up. Other than that the game is pretty damn good.

[Nirvana]

Wooo! Just got my win percentage online to 73%. I am 146-54 with Cammy. I've got about 2000 BP.

[c0ldb33r]

My win percentage is 67%, I've got about 1020 BP.

Two things:

1) I find it absolutely hilarious when fighting female characters with Ryu. After I win, they're laying on the ground, their legs are spread, they're breathing heavily and he says "Can you stand after THAT?". It makes me chuckle every time.

2) One of the challenges (I think it's time challenge #2) says below the description "who is that in the audience?". All four battles take place in the arena witha very busy audience, but I didn't see anything of interest in the audience. Am I missing something?

[ubersaurus]

I know in Japan there was a contest where the winner would be put into an SF4 background; I'm assuming that's what it was referring to. In which case, we may never know who, exactly, that winner was :P

[Nirvana]

2) One of the challenges (I think it's time challenge #2) says below the description "who is that in the audience?". All four battles take place in the arena witha very busy audience, but I didn't see anything of interest in the audience. Am I missing something?

I was wondering what those descriptions on those challenges were.

[parallelprophet]

I'm lovin' my SFIV. I got the PS3 CE. So far, I beat hard mode with Ken on the first day, then I logged 17 hrs w/in 2 days as well as unlocking all Characters except for Gouken and Seth.

As for the "gay" song. It's not so gay. Street Fighter is ultimately a product of the 90's....and that being said, that song is SO NINETIES. Also, it's very arcade-ish. No qualms here. I think it's all a great package.

[gatti]

Just got the game a couple hours ago. After a very brief training mode with Ryu I went ahead and did arcade mode on medium. Other than Bison and Zangief giving me minor problems, I was able to get up to Seth pretty easy. First round was nothing. I thought this was going to be a piece of cake and was wondering why I kept hearing so many complaints. I soon found out:(
After 35 attempts(I know because I counted) I just gave up. Other than that the game is pretty damn good.
I agree! On "medium" the game isn't too hard, but round 2 of Seth is crazy. He's pathetic in round 1. (Corner him and you can keep throwing him) But round two is another story. He's just a bit much. That same day I was still getting use to the new moves and so forth, so maybe I might have better chances now :P

[c0ldb33r]

Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone. I may have misjudged the SF4 anime in its entirety. Destructoid has a post called Weekend Destructainment: Thunder Grope! (http://www.destructoid.com/weekend-destructainment-thunder-grope--123270.phtml) that makes the anime look fantastic. It's Crimson Viper and Cammy fighting. Crimson Viper punches Cammy right in the baby maker than gropes her tits. The whole while Ryu is watching, probably holding a math book in front of pants.

edit: 0:55 of this video will be my new wallpaper :D

[Nirvana]

Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone. I may have misjudged the SF4 anime in its entirety. Destructoid has a post called Weekend Destructainment: Thunder Grope! (http://www.destructoid.com/weekend-destructainment-thunder-grope--123270.phtml) that makes the anime look fantastic. It's Crimson Viper and Cammy fighting. Crimson Viper punches Cammy right in the baby maker than gropes her tits. The whole while Ryu is watching, probably holding a math book in front of pants.

That anime movie was pretty sweet. I liked it. They really made Cammy look weak as hell though. Pretty lame.

Any of you guys see the live action movie? >_>

I saw it. It wasn't that great. But Chris Klein has always been one of my favorite actors because of how bad and ridiculous his acting is, it makes it entertaining to watch.

[Famidrive-16]

The "let alone" part that you left out indicates that I clearly think Smash Brothers is at the bottom tier of the fighting game pile. Nice try though.

even in original context it didnt really seem that way

but still


ohhhh man

[Gamereviewgod]

But round two is another story. He's just a bit much. That same day I was still getting use to the new moves and so forth, so maybe I might have better chances now :P

He's not bad at all. Play defensive. Sit and block. When he throws the low Dhalsim punch, jump in, combo, back out. He only does two moves at a distance; that punch or the sonic boom.

Once his Revenge meter is full, don't do ANYTHING but block. Wait until he comes to you with that mid-kick that turns into Chun-Lis, block, footsweep. As soon as you take to the air with his meter charged he launches the ultra.

Don't use your specials unless they're in a combo. Play very simply, basic fierce shots and light combos you're sure you can hit. I think people overthink Seth. There's no question he's still cheap, and there's nothing you can do if you fall (he'll warp and grab), but this makes him a hell of a lot easier.

[whoisKeel]

I am loving this game! I signed up for live again just to play this online, which is nice, but is everybody having trouble getting into games? I'm always getting unable to play (etc.), and then it has to re-search, but comes back with the same results that I can't connect to...while that songs loops over and over in the background.

What do you guys think of the new characters? I really want to like El Fuerte, but I think he sucks, and I haven't seen anybody play him very well at all. I like Abel, but I feel like he needs another move, or beef up his throwing just a tad. I find it hard to mix it up while playing him. Don't care for Rufus, but C.Viper seems really cool. I need to learn her next. Gouken is badass, has some really sweet juggling combos. Nobody is ever playing him online, but I'm always seeing Akumas. I think they should nerf his ultra raging demon a bit, it's way too easy to do.

Anybody unlock seth yet? I have a weird feeling he is gonna suck, even though he is so crazy as the cpu. Does he play like 1st round seth through the whole match?

[c0ldb33r]

Anybody unlock seth yet? I have a weird feeling he is gonna suck, even though he is so crazy as the cpu.
Seth is okay. I've only played him a few times. I find it weird with him that his Sonic Boom is done with a fireball motion instead of a charging motion.

[Nirvana]

I am loving this game! I signed up for live again just to play this online, which is nice, but is everybody having trouble getting into games? I'm always getting unable to play (etc.), and then it has to re-search, but comes back with the same results that I can't connect to...while that songs loops over and over in the background.

What do you guys think of the new characters? I really want to like El Fuerte, but I think he sucks, and I haven't seen anybody play him very well at all. I like Abel, but I feel like he needs another move, or beef up his throwing just a tad. I find it hard to mix it up while playing him. Don't care for Rufus, but C.Viper seems really cool. I need to learn her next. Gouken is badass, has some really sweet juggling combos. Nobody is ever playing him online, but I'm always seeing Akumas. I think they should nerf his ultra raging demon a bit, it's way too easy to do.

Anybody unlock seth yet? I have a weird feeling he is gonna suck, even though he is so crazy as the cpu. Does he play like 1st round seth through the whole match?

Yeah, getting matches is kind of a hassle, but just keep getting at it. I usually do quick match, and immediately press up then A. For some reason that last person usually works.

As for the new characters...eh. I think out of the 4, Rufus is the most competitive. He has some excellent moves, but I'm not a big fan of his character design. Abel ain't bad either, but I have yet to face a good one. Crimson Viper is a badass, but she is pretty complicated. She seems like she was taken right out of an SNK game. She's weaker and takes more damage, but I definitely think she has potential. Also, I plan on figuring out how to use El Fuerte correctly eventually. I really think he has a lot of potential since his running can possibly get confusing for other people.

As for the Raging Demon being nerfed, I'll have to politely disagree with it being too strong. One thing about it is that you can see it coming from a mile away; once you see that jab coming, you know it's going to happen (at least when facing a player) It doesn't go through fireballs, you have a LOT of time to jump over it (unless you are recovering from a move, in which you probably deserve it o_O ), and you can hit him with a special move if you time it right (Flash kick, Cannon Spike, etc). I love facing Akumas because they take so much damage.

[jedimind7]

What I do is just create my own match. It takes less than 10 seconds for someone to join.

[Dastardly Dylan]

I got the game at NAVA on Saturday (I actually had money) and I managed to buy it. The game changes my life in several different directions.

I'm trying to unlock all the characters right now and until then I'll see everyone online and we can battle it out on my Microsoft Xbox Three Hundred and Sixty Computer Entertainment System.

FIGHT!

[jedimind7]

Ive never really been into fighting games that much being that im not very good but im having so much fun with SFIV. I've been doing decent as well with like winning 53% of my matches. If anyone on here wants to play against me just send me a message on xbox live.

So who do yall like fighting as? I usually roll with Cammy, Rose, and Sakura.

[Nirvana]

I just finished Cammy's 5th Hard Trial today :) God, it was so much easier than her 2nd Trial. That one was just brutal.


Ive never really been into fighting games that much being that im not very good but im having so much fun with SFIV. I've been doing decent as well with like winning 53% of my matches. If anyone on here wants to play against me just send me a message on xbox live.

So who do yall like fighting as? I usually roll with Cammy, Rose, and Sakura.

Cammy since her debut :)

[backguard]

Does anyone have any experience with fighting sticks vs the ps3 controller? are moves easier to pull off? i only have the ps3 controller and have trouble with getting my dudes to do what i ask them to. makes the challenges hard as ___.

[Arcade_Ness]

Cammy, Rose, and Sakura here too. I'd like to pick up learning Chun Li at some point.

[DreamTR]

If anyone wants to play me ( I need to practice up for Round 3 of the GameStop tournament on March 14) send me a message to Dream Theater for XBOX Live and a Friend Request!

[Gamereviewgod]

Anyone know of when MadCatz is putting more pads in stores? They're hitting ridiculous prices on eBay, especially for a corded controller (on the 360 at least).

[Nirvana]

Anyone know of when MadCatz is putting more pads in stores? They're hitting ridiculous prices on eBay, especially for a corded controller (on the 360 at least).

I've heard that stores will be receiving shipments late March/early July. Vague, I know, but I've heard that from Gamestops all around.

[Gamereviewgod]

I've heard that stores will be receiving shipments late March/early July. Vague, I know, but I've heard that from Gamestops all around.

Wow did Madcatz botch this one then. Really could use one, but I'm not paying the $80+ they're going for on eBay, and the $100+ on Amazon.

[whoisKeel]

As for the Raging Demon being nerfed, I'll have to politely disagree with it being too strong. One thing about it is that you can see it coming from a mile away; once you see that jab coming, you know it's going to happen (at least when facing a player) It doesn't go through fireballs, you have a LOT of time to jump over it (unless you are recovering from a move, in which you probably deserve it o_O ), and you can hit him with a special move if you time it right (Flash kick, Cannon Spike, etc). I love facing Akumas because they take so much damage.

See I think that jab is one of the things that makes it so brutal. It is so easy to combo with the quickest hits in the game. If you are seeing Raging Demon from a mile away, they are either doing it from too far away or it is taking them more than 1 try, or you are really that good. Do a crouching medium kick into raging demon or a cross up jump kick into jab/raging demon, and that thing is just brutal. Sure, other characters can ultra combo similar this, but the timing is much, much more intense. I'm OK with the super, but the ultra takes almost 1/2 life on some characters. Too easy to do for the amount of damage IMO, and there's little recover time when you miss. (Haven't tried yet, can you focus attack into raging demon? I bet you can.)

I also think Blanka and Zangief are too strong, but Zangief is one of my favorites, so I won't complain. I think EX hundred slap should be nerfed a bit as well. Balrog seems very good in this game as well, but I don't know him well enough to make any accusations.

I played around some more with El Fuerte, and... He gets little priority on anything other than his throws. His heavy crouch kick is entirely too slow. I think he's a fun character, and most people kick me from game when I win as him :) It's almost like it is more of an insult to win as El Fuerte than Dan. I can't get the timing right on that charge kick move yet...and I usually miss on the dash/fierce suplex thing...I won't give up on him yet, but I don't think he's a serious contender.


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One other thing, has ANYBODY gotten a double KO on live? I have not, and I think a few should have. Also, I got one on arcade mode Seth, and instead of going to round 4 traditionally, and I HAD TO CONTINUE. I thought that was seriously lame. You don't have electrical powers? Lame!

[Nirvana]

See I think that jab is one of the things that makes it so brutal. It is so easy to combo with the quickest hits in the game. If you are seeing Raging Demon from a mile away, they are either doing it from too far away or it is taking them more than 1 try, or you are really that good. Do a crouching medium kick into raging demon or a cross up jump kick into jab/raging demon, and that thing is just brutal. Sure, other characters can ultra combo similar this, but the timing is much, much more intense. I'm OK with the super, but the ultra takes almost 1/2 life on some characters. Too easy to do for the amount of damage IMO, and there's little recover time when you miss. (Haven't tried yet, can you focus attack into raging demon? I bet you can.)

I also think Blanka and Zangief are too strong, but Zangief is one of my favorites, so I won't complain. I think EX hundred slap should be nerfed a bit as well. Balrog seems very good in this game as well, but I don't know him well enough to make any accusations.

I played around some more with El Fuerte, and... He gets little priority on anything other than his throws. His heavy crouch kick is entirely too slow. I think he's a fun character, and most people kick me from game when I win as him :) It's almost like it is more of an insult to win as El Fuerte than Dan. I can't get the timing right on that charge kick move yet...and I usually miss on the dash/fierce suplex thing...I won't give up on him yet, but I don't think he's a serious contender.


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One other thing, has ANYBODY gotten a double KO on live? I have not, and I think a few should have. Also, I got one on arcade mode Seth, and instead of going to round 4 traditionally, and I HAD TO CONTINUE. I thought that was seriously lame. You don't have electrical powers? Lame!

Yeah, those are some good points about Akuma. I dunno, maybe it's just a matchup problem with who you use? I use Cammy, and I make sure to never fight Akuma at a distance. I make him stay on his toes. Usually Akumas like to throw air fireballs , then when you get close they try to trip you or Shoryuken you. I try to mix it up by fighting real close to him, backing off occasionally. Yes, you can focus attack into a Raging Demon, i believe that's one of the challenges. It requires an EX cancel though, so not a lot of Akuma players will use it unless they are cream of the crop.

El Fuerte is super fun to use. I was playing some Player Matches earlier to see if I can get better with him, but I didn't do as well as I'd like. I tried to confuse the opponent by running all over the place but it didn't work out as well. However, this was before I did his normal challenges. I'm a bit more used to his moves now, so I think I will give it another go tonight. I honestly think he can become a viable character.

Double KO? Can't say I've gotten that.

[GnawRadar]

Yeah, those are some good points about Akuma. I dunno, maybe it's just a matchup problem with who you use? I use Cammy, and I make sure to never fight Akuma at a distance. I make him stay on his toes. Usually Akumas like to throw air fireballs , then when you get close they try to trip you or Shoryuken you. I try to mix it up by fighting real close to him, backing off occasionally. Yes, you can focus attack into a Raging Demon, i believe that's one of the challenges. It requires an EX cancel though, so not a lot of Akuma players will use it unless they are cream of the crop.

I just want to clarify, that you don't need to focus cancel after a focus attack into the raging demon. As long as you are quick enough you can successfully pull that off, plus there isn't anything to focus cancel. You can't focus cancel a focus attack, but you do need to start to dash before the attack finishes.

[Nirvana]

I just want to clarify, that you don't need to focus cancel after a focus attack into the raging demon. As long as you are quick enough you can successfully pull that off, plus there isn't anything to focus cancel. You can't focus cancel a focus attack, but you do need to start to dash before the attack finishes.

Oooh. That is actually what I meant; you need to dash first. My bad.

I just noticed this yesterday; Akuma can't get you immediately on the wakeup with a Raging Demon. I faced a couple of them yesterday that tried this, and I was able to jump out of the way even as he was pushing towards my character with the animation.

[Mayhem]

Yeah, many reversals will counter an RD on wake-up it seems, a mate says he managed to spin piledrive Akuma with Zangief when getting up too.

[MarioMania]

I'm seeing on ebay and amazon the Fightpads for 360/PS3 going as high as $80..it's only been a month since the game been out

[G-Boobie]

I'm seeing on ebay and amazon the Fightpads for 360/PS3 going as high as $80..it's only been a month since the game been out

You should see the waiting list on Lizard Lick and Arcade In A Box.

Street Fighter IV brought on the arcade stick apocalypse.

[Trumpman]

I really want some sort of arcade controller, but whether it will be the FightPad or a stick is still unknown. For those that have it, is the Tournament Edition of the MadCatz Stick really worth the $150 it will cost when more are made? Or should I get the lower-quality edition or the Pad instead? Not sure, but I do know one thing - the 360 controller sucks ass.

[c0ldb33r]

I've had this for a few weeks.

A few new comments.

Any unblockable hits are lame. I don't care if I can avoid it, I should be able to block it. It doesn't even make sense from any perspective. Why are most of Ryu's punches blockable, but watch out if you press MK+MP, somehow THAT makes a punch unblockable?!? wtf?

Also, throws are just as lame now as they were on SF2 SO FUCK OFF WITH THROWS THEY ARE SO LAME.

Done!

[Famidrive-16]

Also, throws are just as lame now as they were on SF2 SO FUCK OFF WITH THROWS THEY ARE SO LAME.



hmm yes i'll just stick to zangief's projectiles

[c0ldb33r]

hmm yes i'll just stick to zangief's projectiles
Zangief can suck the fattest part of my ass.

Also, I'm getting sick of fighting Ken and Akuma. It's such a pleasure when I get to fight someone else, even if I get my ass handed to me. Except Zangief. He should be removed. And killed.

Plus, why do I have to always be the first to elect my character? Whenever I play online, the other person won't select their character until I select mine. Screw off with that already!

And why can't I see someone's BP when I go into a match? If I play a ranked match why on earth is there such a huge difference between the BPs of me and my opponent? I'm always fighting someone with like 1000 less or 1000 more. Those battles aren't really much fun for anyone.

AND WHEN IS THE DLC THAT ALLOWS ME TO STOP LISTENING TO THAT GAY CHRISTIAN MUSIC OFF??

Finally, there needs to be an option for when creating your own matches, you should be able to fine tune lots of options. Namely, I should be able to restrict which characters can be used, which moves, no supers, no ultras, no throws, etc.. etc..

edit: Well, I played some more online after this post and am giving up of SF4. No one plays anything but Ken/Ryu/Akuma/etc... They all use annoying throws and those unblockable hits just as you're getting up from being knocked down. They probably think that's quite witty? I don't know. I personally don't think it is as everyone else does it too. That's actually the problem. I know someone will say "you can just do X or Y" and ... yeah, maybe you're right, but I don't feel that I should have to. The people playing this game online are for the most part pricks and they're not worth wasting time on.

If this weren't online, you could say to your buddy to stop playing like such a prick. On the internet that's either not possible or the people wouldn't listen anyway. Playing single player is absolutely unrewarding because of Seth. I wish I had waited until this game was $20.00, as I spent full price on this disaster.

How is HD Remix online? Are the same pricks playing that too?

[G-Boobie]

I've had this for a few weeks.

A few new comments.

Any unblockable hits are lame. I don't care if I can avoid it, I should be able to block it. It doesn't even make sense from any perspective. Why are most of Ryu's punches blockable, but watch out if you press MK+MP, somehow THAT makes a punch unblockable?!? wtf?

Also, throws are just as lame now as they were on SF2 SO FUCK OFF WITH THROWS THEY ARE SO LAME.

Done!

Sigh...

I'd link to the 'You can lead a scrub to water' article, but why bother.

And if you think you're going to avoid throws, overheads, cross ups, and Akuma by switching to HD Remix, boy do you have a surprise coming.

[Phyeir]

Does anyone have any experience with fighting sticks vs the ps3 controller? are moves easier to pull off? i only have the ps3 controller and have trouble with getting my dudes to do what i ask them to. makes the challenges hard as ___.

Invest in a fight stick if you can, because some moves feel impossible without. If anyone can do the charge back, forward, back, forward each time without a fight stick, I'd like to see that. You need one for those moves.