Saturn Experts.. USB Pads on Ebay- Genuine??

[tmc]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEGA-Saturn-SS-USB-Controller-Joypad-PS3-PC-MAC-black_W0QQitemZ280316072339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVide o_Games_Accessories?hash=item280316072339

Are the saturn usb pads all over ebay genuine? Like the example above.

Were the original one's usb even?

Was thinkng about getting a couple as people rave about the saturn controller for 2d play so much but wanted to check here first.

Thanks.

[Flippy8490]

I think they look legit. I even really examined the pictures and such. Another reason i think its legit is because lots of vintage controllers have been getting the USB conversion lately. For example, THESE (http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?cPath=21)] are awesome. So, I think you should be pretty safe if you were to get one. I hope i helped!

[smork]

The orignal pads aren't USB, but they have released a USB version for the PC(which I own and love).

I'm not sure what they are talking about with "rumble", unless there is a newer revision I don't know about.

[Mobius]

If it's a knockoff, it's very close to the original (but hacked for USB, obviously). The only oddity I saw was that the shoulder buttons are black instead of gray. I've never seen that before.

[Vlcice]

The black shoulder buttons is actually normal for the official USB Saturn pads: http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/CS2-0004.html

[Ed Oscuro]

The orignal pads aren't USB, but they have released a USB version for the PC(which I own and love).

I'm not sure what they are talking about with "rumble", unless there is a newer revision I don't know about.
Wins the thread. I wasn't aware of a "rumble" feature either, which seems suspicious. But the pads definitely do exist, and they also should be somewhat pricey (compared to your average console controller) due to steady demand over the years since release paired with a low production run (although I think there's been a few runs of the product, all quite small though).

[bb_hood]

Well first of all, the seller is in Hong Kong with more than 10 for sale, so that should be a big red-flag to tell you these are probably some kind of knock-off, bootleg or dismantled controllers with the usb port modded on. Were black saturn controllers released in Japan? i thought they only got white ones and we got black ones.
The pictures in the ebay listing do look exactly like genuine US saturn controllers. The buttons look genuine and the texture on the D-pad is just like that normal saturn controllers.

Keep in mind that the picture might not be exactly what you are getting; the seller has 6600 feedback with a percentage of 99.1%. To get a percentage that low you need a shitload of negative/neutral feedbacks which he has.

I would be really shocked to find out that these are 100% produced by sega. But if they work well and are made from genuine sega controller parts, why not get one? I think if one was going to make bunches of these it would be way nicer to use the white sega controllers, they look way cooler.

[Ed Oscuro]

Well first of all, the seller is in Hong Kong with more than 10 for sale, so that should be a big red-flag to tell you these are probably some kind of knock-off,
HK is a corridor for all kinds of gaming goods; some legit, some not. I've gotten a good number of legit items from HK.

[PSony]

The are genuine in that they are made from the same factory/parts that the official pads were made from. The only difference is that these are not approved by SEGA.

There were a few threads about these at shoryuken.com. Someone even took pics of the circuit board and it is identical to the official ones.

[jdawg131]

The are genuine in that they are made from the same factory/parts that the official pads were made from. The only difference is that these are not approved by SEGA.

There were a few threads about these at shoryuken.com. Someone even took pics of the circuit board and it is identical to the official ones.

They are legit. I ordered one around Christmas and it is just like my two Saturn controllers. It is a great controller for emulators and can even be used on a PS3; only for PS1 and PS3 games though as PS2 games require the PS button. They're a great and cheap alternative for SFIV; too bad I already have a pair of Hori RAPs modded with Sanwa buttons and button plugs.

[j_factor]

They're legit, Sega made them, and they even made a white version (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-1i-49-en-70-5w1.html). They were made a few years ago, around the same time as the Saturn PS2 pads.


They are legit. I ordered one around Christmas and it is just like my two Saturn controllers. It is a great controller for emulators and can even be used on a PS3; only for PS1 and PS3 games though as PS2 games require the PS button.

What about those controller converters that let you use a PS2 pad on a PS3? How do those work?

[KEVMAN569]

Do these work on Xbox 360?

[jdawg131]

They're legit, Sega made them, and they even made a white version (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-1i-49-en-70-5w1.html). They were made a few years ago, around the same time as the Saturn PS2 pads.



What about those controller converters that let you use a PS2 pad on a PS3? How do those work?

I have a pair of converters (can't remember which brand off the top of my head), but they work like a charm with my PS2 Hori RAPs. There is no lag what so ever and they even work with Guitar Hero if that's your kind of game; most converters struggle with GH.


Do these work on Xbox 360?

No, they don't work on a 360. The 360 doesn't pick up the required USB drivers like the PS3 does.

[smork]

They're legit, Sega made them, and they even made a white version (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-1i-49-en-70-5w1.html). They were made a few years ago, around the same time as the Saturn PS2 pads.

They even made a silverish/goldish version - which is the one I own. 100% legit, too.

[j_factor]

I have a pair of converters (can't remember which brand off the top of my head), but they work like a charm with my PS2 Hori RAPs. There is no lag what so ever and they even work with Guitar Hero if that's your kind of game; most converters struggle with GH.

What I meant was, is there a PS button on the converter itself?

[gepeto]

It is funny you posted this I ordered this today
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-SEGA-Saturn-SS-Controller-Joypad-for-PC-PS3-Mac_W0QQitemZ370164046139QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_ Games_Accessories?hash=item370164046139&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I found the prices creeping up since sf4. This one had free shipping.

[jdawg131]

What I meant was, is there a PS button on the converter itself?

Yes, there is a PS button on the PS2 > PS3 converter.

[jdawg131]

It is funny you posted this I ordered this today
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-SEGA-Saturn-SS-Controller-Joypad-for-PC-PS3-Mac_W0QQitemZ370164046139QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_ Games_Accessories?hash=item370164046139&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I found the prices creeping up since sf4. This one had free shipping.

I paid $23 shipped just over 2 months ago...

[Vlcice]

The orignal pads aren't USB, but they have released a USB version for the PC(which I own and love).

The white version is great! <3 Mine came with my copy of the Mac version of Puyo Puyo Fever.


I'm not sure what they are talking about with "rumble", unless there is a newer revision I don't know about.

The description seems to be for a completely different controller. It also mentions analogue sticks, which the Saturn pad doesn't have.

[KEVMAN569]

I have a pair of converters (can't remember which brand off the top of my head), but they work like a charm with my PS2 Hori RAPs. There is no lag what so ever and they even work with Guitar Hero if that's your kind of game; most converters struggle with GH.



No, they don't work on a 360. The 360 doesn't pick up the required USB drivers like the PS3 does.

That makes me a sad panda. This is perfect for SF4.

[Sudo]

I'm really considering buying one of these. It'd be great for SF IV and other fighters on PS3, and Genesis/MAME emulation on PC.

[RCM]

I bought two of these which were boxed in December. I compared them to my USB Saturn controller I picked up from Lik Sang a few years and found them to be 100% consistent. If they're truly knockoffs, they're the best I've seen. I don't know if these work with Street Fighter IV, but they do with Super Street Fighter II HD for PS3.

[fahlim003]

I grabbed a single controller off ebay in December too and it's nearly identical to the original USB saturn pads by SLS/Sega pardon the model number. If anything it appears to be a revision or just NOS of the new model that was never sold before.

[jdawg131]

I bought two of these which were boxed in December. I compared them to my USB Saturn controller I picked up from Lik Sang a few years and found them to be 100% consistent. If they're truly knockoffs, they're the best I've seen. I don't know if these work with Street Fighter IV, but they do with Super Street Fighter II HD for PS3.

A did a quick round or two last night using the pad it worked very well. I'm used to using an arcade stick for my 2D fighters, but would have issue using it for VF5 as I'm used to the Saturn pad for Sega fighters (Fighters Megamix, Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter 2).

[Iron Draggon]

I ordered this one just a few days ago myself:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250376506550

I prolly should've ordered two... these went really fast at this price... most sellers are charging 2 - 3 times this much for them... and they'll prolly be even more expensive by the time SF4 comes out for PC... so at least I'm ready for the single player and online experience with one of these... and it's doubtful that I'll ever have a 2nd player to fight with on my system, so I'm prolly alright with just one, but I would like to get another one soon anyway

[PSony]

Here are some threads about this pad: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=163928

[Ed Oscuro]

Hey gang.

I got mine in today, so I fired up a couple games - Spelunky and a few games in ZSNES 1.51 for Win32. Installing the controller in WinXP took literally three seconds - it was recognized and installed in that time. No calibration needed.

I hadn't used a Saturn pad before, so my very first impression was that the pad and the shoulders were kind of stiff, and the buttons sort of rattle about.

I quickly learned how to use it, though; the first time I tried to pull off a "tough" maneuver in Spelunky (jumping off a block and grabbing the one directly above) I did it no problem. The pad doesn't seem much less accurate than using the arrow keys on a keyboard (plus I don't have to worry about accidentally hitting the Windows key or certain key combinations not working, or some other dang thing).

The shoulder buttons take some getting used to (for some reason I hit the left one less accurately than the right) but they seem to "stick" like they're supposed to - which would be a great asset in Operation Logic Bomb, a game where my original SNES pads fail pretty badly.

The box is not the same black/white one and the simple "CONTROL PAD" on the front, SLS logo (SLS is official Sega-Sammy Logistical Services (ttp://www.sls-net.com/home/index.html)), and lack of trademark symbols might not inspire confidence. It's the same controller as seen here (http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=bANZ_PS3_general&thread.id=27949) and in the post above, and while those chaps labeled it a "counterfeit" item, I see no reason to assume such aside from maybe the wierd ABC/XYZ font on the buttons. The fit and finish on this pad (aside from the buttons which rattle if you shake the controller - which you normally shouldn't) is very nice, and it seems to use the same parts as even US Saturn-styled black pads, or the gray pads I've also seen (which is looks the most like).

My seller packed everything in a big bubble mailer, but conscientiously folded the boxes flat and included them as well. The controllers were each wrapped again in bubble, and inside each controller was in its own bag and the cord was twist-tied and bagged as well. I do see a number of very light scratches on the shiny surface of the controller, hardly a deal-breaker when the actual pad feels so solid.

Pushing directly down on the d-pad doesn't let you rock between directions very easily. In the Gamepad Controllers control panel of Windows, this registers as neutral input.

On the whole, it seems like I got a good deal for a good item. I'm pleased.

[PSony]

I own one of these bootleg usb pads, a genuine Saturn model 2 pad, and PS2 Saturn pad, and it doesn't feel/work as well as the real thing.

The dpad feels a bit rough when making circular motions, and is not as mushy as the genuine dpad. The shoulder buttons have a lot of resistance and have a loud, hard click. Definitely not as smooth/easy to press as a genuine Saturn pad. The face buttons are also stiff and have that roughness that cheap knockoffs usually have. The engraved A/B/C/X/Y/Z markings on the buttons aren't as deep and well done as on the real pad. The texture also doesn't feel as smooth.

I have also heard from a lot of people that their dpad broke off on the usb pad, which wouldn't surprise me. You can open it up and replace it with a genuine dpad.

[kedawa]

The funny thing is that I own a knock-off of the american Saturn pad, and it actually works much better than the real thing, even though the build quality isn't very good.

[norkusa]

I was going to order one of these USB Saturn pads but I'm still confused about which are legit Sega pads and which are fakes.

This guy looks like he's selling authentic controllers but I don't know for sure. Can anyone tell?


http://cgi.ebay.com/SEGA-Saturn-SS-USB-Controller-Joypad-for-PC-PS3-Mac-new_W0QQitemZ370192518626QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Vin tageComputing_RL?hash=item5631318

[PSony]

None of them are legit. You would only be able to buy them back in 2004/2005.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

I picked up two USB Saturn pads a while ago and they still work amazing. I've still convinced that they're genuine due to their outstanding quality. If you guys can find the ones I show here, I highly recommend a pickup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbmrpF_bEo

[HappehLemons]

I picked up two USB Saturn pads a while ago and they still work amazing. I've still convinced that they're genuine due to their outstanding quality. If you guys can find the ones I show here, I highly recommend a pickup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbmrpF_bEo

Those are genuine, there's no reason to doubt it.

[Parodius Duh!]

Saturn came out in like 94, WHY would the controllers be usb driven? Not to be a dick but this is a genuinely stupid question and if you took 2 minutes to do a google search you would have your answer. I believe the only official Saturn USB pads were released for the ps2 in Japan only, and they are also available in the regular plug style and will most likely cost you the soul of your first born...... EDIT: This topic is old as shit.



Were black saturn controllers released in Japan? i thought they only got white ones and we got black ones.

Grey, White, Black, Clear Smoke, and Clear blue I can think of off the top of my head were controller colors released in Japan, to correspond with the matching colored systems. The white saturn was first released as a X-Mas exclusive but was so popular they decided to mass produce it. The Hi-Saturn comes with black controllers as well as they were sold individually.

[kedawa]

I believe the only official Saturn USB pads were released for the ps2 in Japan only, and they are also available in the regular plug style and will most likely cost you the soul of your first born......
Sega actually released (or authorized) a USB version for PC/Mac to accompany some puzzle game a year or two before the PS2 pads hit.
AFAIK, the PS2 pads all use the standard controller port.

[HappehLemons]

Saturn came out in like 94, WHY would the controllers be usb driven? Not to be a dick but this is a genuinely stupid question and if you took 2 minutes to do a google search you would have your answer. I believe the only official Saturn USB pads were released for the ps2 in Japan only, and they are also available in the regular plug style and will most likely cost you the soul of your first born......


Not to be a dick, but this a genuinely stupid response and if you took two minutes to do a google search you would of been able to give a correct response.

Even though Saturn came out in 94, back in 2009+ they started officially re-releasing the Saturn controllers, just with a USB port.

[Vlcice]

Sega actually released (or authorized) a USB version for PC/Mac to accompany some puzzle game a year or two before the PS2 pads hit.
AFAIK, the PS2 pads all use the standard controller port.

It was Puyo Puyo Fever. They released Mac and PC ports in 2004 (Mac came first, if I remember right), both with collectors' editions that included a controller. They also sold just the gamepads around the same time. PS2 controllers, and later USB reissues, came after that. (Way before 2009!)