FYI: The King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match is out (PS2, XBLA) [Archive]

heybtbm

03-05-2009, 08:11 PM

The next SNK budget release came out this week. King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8452/kof98.jpg

Not much to add other than I came home to find it in my mailbox (from Amazon). I ordered it months ago. This one was $19.99 as opposed to $14.99 like all the other SNK comps.

FYI: Samurai Shodown Anthology hits next week.

Famidrive-16

03-05-2009, 08:22 PM

no XBLA for a year :(

PapaStu

03-05-2009, 08:26 PM

Did Ignition really publish this?

I'll wait till the Sam Sho collection hits and just get them both then.

Kitsune Sniper

03-05-2009, 08:59 PM

Does the emulation suck as much ass as SNK Arcade Classics and KOF Orochi Saga?

Or did they get someone who knows how to program to do this game?

Arasoi

03-05-2009, 09:36 PM

realdeal

03-05-2009, 09:58 PM

well this doesnt seem that bad though im actually thinking of purchasing it unless somebody can tell me why they think it really suck im going see if i can find out some more information on it

i dont want to waste my money if i dont like it though http://photosnag.com/img/3012/y09w0131xdtc/82(2).gif

Kitsune Sniper

03-05-2009, 09:58 PM

I bought the import of this last year, unlike their sometimes spotty compilations this is a very solid title in terms of controls and everything else.

It really is the Ultimate Edition of KOF98, adding in all the missing characters from KOF 94/95/96/97 as playable including Geese, Goenitz, Orochi, Krauser etc etc.

Extremely good price for that title.

You said the magic word: import.

Let me remind you that SNK P USA decided to ditch the Japanese version of KOF Orochi Saga, which was awesome, instead going to those morons who made Bloodrayne and tell them to rework a perfectly functioning title into crap.

roushimsx

03-05-2009, 10:19 PM

Does the emulation suck as much ass as SNK Arcade Classics and KOF Orochi Saga?

Or did they get someone who knows how to program to do this game?

It's highly unlikely that they'd hire someone to emulate the arcade game on a PS2 rather than use a previously released home port of it. The game was released on the Taito Type-X hardware which is way more powerful than a PS2...it's not just the neo geo version of KoF98.

edit - oh hey, there's a forum (http://forums.ignitionusa.net/showpost.php?p=391&postcount=7) for the game.

Kitsune Sniper

03-05-2009, 10:52 PM

It's highly unlikely that they'd hire someone to emulate the arcade game on a PS2 rather than use a previously released home port of it. The game was released on the Taito Type-X hardware which is way more powerful than a PS2...it's not just the neo geo version of KoF98.

edit - oh hey, there's a forum (http://forums.ignitionusa.net/showpost.php?p=391&postcount=7) for the game.

This is SNK P USA we're talking about. The people in management have no idea what they're doing half the time. I'm surprised they didn't delay this game six more months, like they did with everything else they've released lately. :P

fahlim003

03-06-2009, 12:01 AM

This and SamSho coming out both domestic at the same time? If only I had better mind to spend on these games now with what saving a better idea than spending nowadays.

ubersaurus

03-06-2009, 02:22 AM

Does the emulation suck as much ass as SNK Arcade Classics and KOF Orochi Saga?

Or did they get someone who knows how to program to do this game?

It's hardly an emulation when the PS2 version was in development before the arcade version. For all intents and purposes its the exact same as the JP release, but in english.

Kitsune Sniper

03-06-2009, 02:30 AM

It's hardly an emulation when the PS2 version was in development before the arcade version. For all intents and purposes its the exact same as the JP release, but in english.

K.

Just wanted to make sure I don't waste fifteen bucks on a game that's not worth a penny. I've been burned once already.

careerbellman

03-06-2009, 03:54 AM

Icarus Moonsight

03-06-2009, 09:02 AM

Got my copy Wednesday. I'll be playing it this weekend. Bonus Disk? I wasn't expecting that for a budget release. 98 Ultimate Match and XII extras on the bonus disk... interesting.

Also, I thought that this was an update to Dream Match... Not really KoF 98, though the original Neo Geo version is on the disk. I'll compare the original rom version included to 98 on Orochi Saga and see what's up.

Vlcice

03-06-2009, 10:42 AM

Icarus, do you mean Dream Match 1999 for the DC? That was a direct port of '98 with arranged music and 3D backgrounds. There weren't any gameplay changes in that. This has new backgrounds and arranged music (not sure if using older arrangements or if it's new) along with substantial new game changes and new characters. The original '98 should be the same as on Orochi Saga, aside from probably using a different emulator.

Kitsune: like other people have mentioned, since this isn't using an emulator there hopefully shouldn't be any issues with the gameplay. The issue before has always been the fact that the NA versions of the compilations were redone with a different emulator. I'm pretty sure Terminal Reality hasn't even touched this one.

PapaStu: Yes, Ignition has picked up North American publishing duties for SNK's games starting with Metal Slug 7. They had already been doing the PAL releases for several years now.

My copy's on the way in the mail; the stores nearby didn't get it in, sadly. I've been really looking forward to giving it a shot. If I'm lucky, it'll get here today.

ubersaurus

03-06-2009, 11:38 AM

Icarus, do you mean Dream Match 1999 for the DC? That was a direct port of '98 with arranged music and 3D backgrounds. There weren't any gameplay changes in that. This has new backgrounds and arranged music (not sure if using older arrangements or if it's new) along with substantial new game changes and new characters. The original '98 should be the same as on Orochi Saga, aside from probably using a different emulator.

Actually, there were gameplay changes, but they weren't noticeable unless you get into the combo system...a lot of them from the neo don't work on DC, and vice versa.

If the JP version was any indication, the arranged music is the old arrangements, though the backgrounds are new.

As far as the changes are concerned, they're fantastic. Practically everyone is a competition viable character in UM, which is an improvement on old 98. I suggest giving the Sports Team a try...Brian and Heavy D in particular got beefed up.

Vlcice

03-06-2009, 12:09 PM

Intereseting, I hadn't played enough of DM1999 to realize there were differences from the Neo version like that. Were they intentional changes, or results of inaccuracies in the physics system like the DC KOF2000?

Kitsune Sniper

03-06-2009, 01:26 PM

Kitsune: like other people have mentioned, since this isn't using an emulator there hopefully shouldn't be any issues with the gameplay. The issue before has always been the fact that the NA versions of the compilations were redone with a different emulator. I'm pretty sure Terminal Reality hasn't even touched this one.

Actually, the AOF, Fatal Fury and World Heroes compilations are the same as the Japanese ones as far as I can tell (G1M2 made those). SNK Arcade Classics, KOF Orochi and Metal Slug Anthology were made by Terminal Reality.

heybtbm

03-06-2009, 02:30 PM

SNK Arcade Classics, KOF Orochi and Metal Slug Anthology were made by Terminal Reality.

Was there something wrong with Metal Slug Anthology (specifically the PS2 version)? I'm far from a Neo Geo expert...but I thought the games played just fine.

MarioMania

03-06-2009, 03:59 PM

I called Game Crazy about Sham Showdown Ant on the PS2..coming out on the 28th, So I'm putting $5 down on Monday

Kitsune Sniper

03-06-2009, 05:05 PM

Was there something wrong with Metal Slug Anthology (specifically the PS2 version)? I'm far from a Neo Geo expert...but I thought the games played just fine.

They have a very slight button lag. You get used to it, but it's there.

Also, they have loading screens. It's not that bad when you think of it... but considering what G1M2's done with the other collections, it's pretty much inexcusable. :p

snes_collector

03-06-2009, 05:12 PM

Are any stores actually getting these games in or is it like online only? I still haven't been able to locate a copy of Orochi Saga.

swlovinist

03-06-2009, 09:16 PM

Are any stores actually getting these games in or is it like online only? I still haven't been able to locate a copy of Orochi Saga.

They are in the Northwest everywhere. It might be one of those regional things where places get a ton, and others places get squat.

I have seen all the SNK comps here that are out. I have not checked locally for the KOF 98 one.

snes_collector

03-07-2009, 08:10 AM

I guess so, what stores are you finding them at?

03-07-2009, 07:20 PM

Censored blood?

Another US released fucked.

swlovinist

03-07-2009, 07:55 PM

I guess so, what stores are you finding them at?

Fred Meyer

snes_collector

03-08-2009, 08:19 AM

Ah, I don't have those around here. I did find a copy of Orochi Saga yesterday, didn't have this new one though.

c0ldb33r

03-08-2009, 10:53 AM

Awesome. I hadn't heard anything about Sam Sho Anthology, so I thought it got canned.

It's great to hear otherwise. So it'll be out at the end of this month? Does it include any bonus content?

Famidrive-16

06-30-2009, 04:05 AM

Bump, but this game is supposedly out on XBLA this Wed for 800 points.

Kroogah

07-01-2009, 08:23 AM

Indeed, it's on XBLA right now, downloading as I type this. And I just finished posting in the Garou thread, too. Add Holger Czukay for more Neo Geo XBL goodness.

Famidrive-16

07-01-2009, 11:57 PM

Woooooooooooow.

They barely translated this game at all. Win quotes are in japanese, as is the menu if you choose Ultimate mode.

That is both really funny and kinda dissapointing.

Also this doesn't have the 3D backgrounds the PS2 version has, it might've been space limitations or something (it was already about 200 MB as it was)

Otherwise it's pretty good. People are reporting online problems like Garou but I had few problems with that game's online and none so far with this one. I only played ten different matches though, I'll get a better playthrough tommorow.

Eternal Tune

07-02-2009, 10:46 AM

I think a Shingo KIIIIIIICK is in order.

PapaStu

07-02-2009, 12:54 PM

Woooooooooooow.

Also this doesn't have the 3D backgrounds the PS2 version has, it might've been space limitations or something (it was already about 200 MB as it was)

Size restrictions no longer exist. There have been a few games now with 1GB sized downloads for straight XBLA games (Watchmen, NCAA Final Four). Most likely they were just rushing it out and MS didn't care about the lack of menu localization.

Vlcice

07-02-2009, 05:44 PM

Size restrictions no longer exist. There have been a few games now with 1GB sized downloads for straight XBLA games (Watchmen, NCAA Final Four). Most likely they were just rushing it out and MS didn't care about the lack of menu localization.

Not actually true! According to Gamasutra (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22637), there is still a size limit of 350MB. Microsoft is willing to consider larger games on a case-by-case basis, but publishers have to apply and there's no guarantee they'll get more than 350MB.

MegaDrive20XX

07-02-2009, 05:58 PM

Are any stores actually getting these games in or is it like online only? I still haven't been able to locate a copy of Orochi Saga.

I keep finding copies at Sam's Club over here.

Famidrive-16

07-03-2009, 02:21 AM

Kitsune Sniper

07-03-2009, 10:13 AM

I wish my connection was more friendly with Mexico. Most of the players I've seen online are from that area and I lag like hell with them.

Although it wasn't as bad as this guy I played from Australia, damn, I couldn't do anything at all.

The game is going to be wildly popular down here. KOF is the country's favorite fighting game series. ;)