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retrobenj
03-18-2009, 09:39 AM
what are your favourite dos games???

here is my few

commander keen (series)
crystal caves
police quest
indiana jones and the fate of atlantis
same and max hit the road
duke nukem

big apogee fan :above me:

OMF2097
03-18-2009, 10:01 AM
One Must Fall 2097 and anything made by Dynamix.

NoahsMyBro
03-18-2009, 10:13 AM
Descent

JunkTheMagicDragon
03-18-2009, 10:44 AM
most games i played in the dos era were pirated, freeware, or edugames. they were unheralded, but i had fun with em.

bodyworks voyager - a ship-combat shooter based on the bodyworks education software.

hoyle's card games, vol1 - at least i learned gin rummy.

stunts - god i loved this game. there's still not a modern-day equivalent that has the sheer amount of track customization this one did. this one is still on both my xp and win98 machines.

battle chess - dad tricked me into learning chess with crushed pawns and swallowed queens

mah jongg

star goose - overhead shooter. with a goose. in space.

in later years, i got into the quakes, the dooms, the nukems (wasn't allowed to play violent games when younger) but i did all that using win3 or later. these are teh games i actually played on dos.

retrobenj
03-18-2009, 10:51 AM
[QUOTE=JunkTheMagicDragon;1528294]
battle chess - dad tricked me into learning chess with crushed pawns and swallowed queens
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Battle Chess this was brilliant!! made chess alot more fun! :onfire:

OMF2097
03-18-2009, 10:55 AM
stunts - god i loved this game. there's still not a modern-day equivalent that has the sheer amount of track customization this one did. this one is still on both my xp and win98 machines.


This game deserves a remake.

kaedesdisciple
03-18-2009, 11:58 AM
I grew up on quite a few DOS games, here are some of my favorites in no particular order:

Commander Keen series (3 being my favorite)
Epic Pinball
Duke Nukem series
Quest for Glory Series (IV being my favorite)
Wolfenstein 3d
Doom
X-Wing / TIE Fighter
Wacky Wheels
Whiplash
Sim City
Afterlife (still my all-time favorite sim)
Kroz series
Abuse
Alien Carnage
Jetpack
Champions of Zulula
Executioners (it's so bad, oh so bad, but so funny)

clarkkr79
03-18-2009, 05:56 PM
Totally agree with Stunts. downloaded it less than a year ago to relive the past. Great game. Also typical shooters

Wolfenstein 3d
Doom
Star Wars Dark Forces
Star wars Chess (I think it was like 12 3.5" floppies to install)... don't know why I liked it either to be honest.
Leisure Suit Larry (first couple of installments, amusing)

roushimsx
03-18-2009, 06:43 PM
Don't let me be the first one to mention Crusader: No Remorse and Crusader: No Regret. Good god were those games awesome as sin.

oh hey, Little Big Adventure / Twinsen's Adventure was DOS! That game was magically delicious.

tom
03-18-2009, 07:01 PM
The Fools Errand
Star Saga 1 and 2
Star Fleet 1
El Fish
mostly the ones I still got up on my RoD

GM80
03-18-2009, 07:08 PM
All of Sierra's Quest titles
Cannon Fodder
X-wing
OMF 2097
Rise of the Triad
Battle Chess
Stunts
Star Control 2
LBA2
Wing Commander series
Commander Keen
Jazz Jackrabbit
Jammin'
Stunt Island!!!

The full list is really too big, as that's almost all I played at that time ... but there's a good summary.

Starwander
03-18-2009, 07:24 PM
Gateway of the Savage Frontier
Treasures of the Savage Frontier

Ed Oscuro
03-18-2009, 07:46 PM
I like the various AD&D games, including the ones just mentioned. Haven't played 'em that much though. Heck, I like lots of stuff. Quake and the Heretic / Hexen games are nice.

Sonicwolf
03-18-2009, 07:51 PM
Duke Nukem 3D
3D Pinball

Those were the second and third computer games we got - back in the mid 1990s, excellent ones too. Lots of fun.

boatofcar
03-18-2009, 08:00 PM
I didn't play a lot of DOS games, but the ones I always enjoyed were the Sierra adventure games and Leisure Suit Larry.

Clownzilla
03-18-2009, 09:42 PM
Stunt Island was great fun.

mnbren05
03-18-2009, 09:56 PM
Commander Keen
Also the Sierra Quest Games
Rise of the Triad: Dark Wars (referred to as ROTT)
Terminal Velocity

Arasoi
03-18-2009, 10:26 PM
HACK
Raptor: Call of the Shadows
One Must Fall 2097
Wolfenstein 3D
Doom
Duke Nukem

Ed Oscuro
03-18-2009, 10:30 PM
HACK
NetHack?


what are your favourite dos games???

here is my few

commander keen (series)
crystal caves
police quest
indiana jones and the fate of atlantis
same and max hit the road
duke nukem

big apogee fan :above me:
I find your lack of MAJOR STRYKER disturbing.

Arasoi
03-18-2009, 10:35 PM
NetHack?

Nope, just HACK.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/hack

Ed Oscuro
03-18-2009, 10:38 PM
Confirmed.

I just had to ask cuz I seen all them other shooty twisty corridor games and I think of HACX, and it's spelled all caps too. (For some reason NetHack, the sequel to HACK, is spelled just as I have done). I guess this is one of those moments you can be thankful you aren't so old and decrepit that you can't press the keys right anymore :P~

A Black Falcon
03-19-2009, 12:01 AM
I played lots of DOS games, it was my main gaming platform for many years between when we got our first computer in early 1992 and when we finally got Windows 95 in 1997. Even after that, I played DOS games regularly for years afterwards and still play them once in a while. The only console I had back then was a Game Boy, so I did most of my gaming on PC... so as such, making a list would be pretty hard. :) There would be just so many games to mention...

I mean, I did play some Win3.1 games of course, increasingly so as time passed, but most of the best games (aside from obvious exceptions like Civilization II) were for DOS. I recognize quite a few of the games being mentioned in this thread. Not every single one (never heard of Champions of Zulala...), but many.

First, I have to mention Commander Keen. The Commander Keen games were fantastic, the best in the genre on the PC at the time and not really matched since. It was my favorite game series in the early '90s, no question, and it's still one of the best. While I like Keens 4-6 too, I always liked the original trilogy best. Commander Keen: Invasion of the Vorticons is classic PC gaming at its finest. Episode II: The Earth Explodes! is the weak point, if there is one, but the final part more than makes up for it...

Really though, Commander Keen Episode I: Marooned on Mars! has got to be one of my favorite games ever. I got the shareware well before getting the retail, and though I loved the full game, the first episode made the biggest impression. From the scary Zargs (when one of those things runs at you from offscreen it'd often make me jump...) to the silly Yorps, invisible blocks, darkened areas to explore mixed with bright environments... just amazing stuff. When I first realized that there was a hidden area above the first Pogo Shrine's Pogo Stick, for example, it was so cool... and how about the Red Maze City and the hidden level? Or, for that matter, to go forward, the hidden level in Episode III that gives you the whole Intergalactic Alphabet, so you can go back and translate all those signs? Awesome! :)

... anyway... a list. Hmm... bah, whenever I start one of these, I end up listing like half of the games I own (or like) for the platform. It'll be no different this time, I think. :lol (nope...)

Freeware/Shareware Games (* for titles I actually own the full version of and not just shareware, or + for where the full version is free)
--
+CaveQuest - almost certainly the first 'RPG' I ever played...
*Commander Keen (1-3, 4, and 6; I didn't have 5 until recently)
Major Stryker
*Raptor: Call of the Shadows - the best PC-exclusive shmup there is!
Epic Pinball - I only have ever had the demo Android table, but when I first played this, I was extremely impressed. It was so much better than any pinball game I had seen before...
+Star Goose - I liked this one too...
Math Rescue/Word Rescue - fun, for learning games.
+Llamatron 2112 - The best dual-stick (Robotron-style) shooter ever. The controls aren't as good as in the original Atari ST version, but this one's great anyway... I'm pretty good at this game I think, as I played it a lot. :)
+Castle Adventure - Fantastic game! ASCII art action/adventure game where you explore a castle and beyond. I don't think we ever finished it, but I sure did have a lot of fun with this one... it's really a fantastic game for its time.
SkyRoads (now +) - it's now freeware and I have that, but back then I just had the shareware, which just had a few tracks
*Jetpack - now freeware, but I have the full, disk version.
*Hugo's House of Horrors (and its two sequels -- the first graphic adventures I played... still old favorites of mine, particularly the first one. Short and easy once you know how to beat it, but pretty fun anyway. I have Hugo's House of Horrors and Hugo 3: Jungle of Doom registered, but not Hugo 2: Whodunnit?. The shareware versions are complete, though, so I've beaten that one anyway. We registered the first one because we were stuck and needed the promised hint guide... :)
King Arthur's K.O.R.T. - simple Risk-like TBS, but in medieval Britain. Fun stuff for a quick play. I think the shareware was full... maybe they wanted you to buy an improved version, though, like Hexxagon. Not certain...
Hexxagon - Full game, but they wanted to sell you a followup. This great game is one of the best boardgames of the PC shareware era, play it!
Secret Agent - liked this one quite a bit... only played episode 1, though.
Crystal Caves
Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure
*Duke Nukem II
Realms of Chaos - I'd like to get the full version of this one sometime. Good platformer.
Kroz
+Xerix - I mostly remember this for the intro cutscene... I think it was a full game, though shareware.
+Arcade Volleyball - The classic! This CGA sidescrolling volleyball game was one of the first we had. The computer is so good... great game even so, though!
Jill of the Jungle
Xargon - interesting story, for a game of the time...
*Traffic Department 2192 - One of the first games I played with a truly great, well written story. The gameplay never gets past average, and is very easy to exploit in all but the escort missions, but the great story, with all its many twists and turns across the three episodes, kept me playing. I really, really like this game... the gamplay's fun enough to keep me interested, and the story's great. At the beginning I'd never have guessed the kind of places it would go...
+Galactix - Good opening effort from the guy who went on to make the great Raptor. Play this! Single-screen shooter style, weird controls, but it works...
Tyrian - sure I have the freeware Tyrian 2000, but I've never gotten far in it... great game though, and Raptor's biggest competitor.
Overkill - lesser known Epic shmup. I really, really liked the shareware of this one, I wish I had the full version!
Wolfenstein 3D - Barely got anywhere before getting bored, but this was a pretty innovative, and interesting, game, for sure...
*EGA Trek - destroy those things that totally aren't Romulans and Klingons! :)
*Dark Ages -- Fantastic shareware, but it is disappointing that the full version adds no new graphics, music, weapons, or anything, just two more levels with the exact same art and style as the first one. Still, I loved the first one, so that's not so bad... it's a very interesting, unique platformer with some RPG elements (expandable health, weapons to find, items you must find to progress), soundblaster music (very early for that!), and very nice graphics for the time (wow, waving grass! :D).
Zone 66 - top-down flying shooter where you have to destroy bases. Interesting intro story told with a long cutscene. Great music and graphics. VERY Windows-intolerant, you basically needed a boot disk to make it work, though in these days of DOSBox, that doesn't matter. Really good game, I'd like to play the full game someday. I do have the retail "Levels 3 and 4" pack as well as the (level 1 only) shareware, but not the rest of the game... there were 8 levels I think.
Jazz Jackrabbit - always meant to get this sometime, but somehow never did... it deserves its reputation for being pretty good, I would say.

Retail games
--
Warcraft: Orcs and Humans - my first real RTS... the game that truly made me a Blizzard fan. Archaic now, but it was an amazing game for its time!
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (plus expansion) - this runs too fast on new computers and is best played on Win95 in the WCII BNE, but I have the originals as well of course.
Civilization - I like Civ II more, but this one's a classic of course...
Quest for Glory I: So You Want To Be A Hero (VGA version) - another of my favorite games of all time... have this on disk.
Quest for Glory Collector's Series - Got this a few years back locally for very cheap (this thing's expensive online!). QFGIV in particular is stunningly great, as good as the first one. Play the DOS, not Win3.1, version, it's much better (and fullscreen).
Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle - not my favorite Lucasarts adventure, but it is pretty good for sure.
The Secret of Monkey Island - the original... play it, now!
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis - one of Lucasarts' best ever...
The Dig - an underappreciated classic
Lords of the Realm II -- outstanding game, sort of like the pre-Total War... but with better province management and less fun battles. I liked this game a lot, but it's aged in some ways... particularly combat, which never was the best part of the game to begin with. Note that you need to install the Win95 version to use the expansion pack; only the base game works with DOS.
Heroes of Might & Magic II (and its expansion) - another of the best strategy games ever. Truly outstanding with great gameplay, graphics, sound, music, and design. The game has both Win95 and DOS versions on the disc.
Rayman - way too hard... but it's too good to not list here anyway.
Space Quest V - so funny... frustrating like all Sierra adventures, but it's really funny!
King's Quest VII - the only KQ I've actually beaten... it is also on Win95, but I played the DOS version because it was fullscreen. Pretty good, though not Sierra's best.
Star Wars: Rebel Assault - one of the first CD games we owned, with Day of the Tentacle and Indiana Jones: Fate of Atlantis. I know a lot of people hate it, but I still like this game... I've beaten it several times on both PC and Sega CD, and it's always fun and challenging. Frustrating too, and the controls aren't great (particularly touchy on PC...), and the save system on PC (you only get a password every four levels) is really annoying, but still, I like it. So much of this game's script is so memorable for me... I have a good chunk of it memorized, I think ("What, in the movie C-3PO doesn't say 'are you sure this thing is safe' after the pod launched? Really? But that's how I remember it..." :)). Simple but fun. Oh, the on-foot target-shooting levels are a pain, and level 3 is one of the hardest and most annoying in the whole game.
Star Wars: Rebel Assault 2 - I didn't like it quite as much as the first, but it's still solid fun. Nice FMV!
Star Wars: TIE Fighter (Collector's CD-ROM) - One of the three or four best games ever made, this all-time classic is something everyone should have played. You need a joystick, but it's an absolute must-play, really. Games don't get better than this.
The Lost Vikings - the first Blizzard game I owned... quite fun platform-puzzler with a great sense of humor.
Zork 1 - one of the only text adventures I have really played... good stuff, though!
The Oregon Trail - how couldn't you like this game?
Midnight Rescue - (Super Solvers) English class stuff wasn't my favorite, but the theme and game design is fantastic.
Operation Neptune - (Super Solvers) Math game with sidescrolling underwater submarine shooting! Fantastic game!
EcoQuest: The Search for Cetus - fun for kids, but a bit simplistic for adults... liked it when I was younger, though.
Spectre VR - more famous on the Mac, but it was on PC too
Bumpy - interesting platformer
Hexen - fun medieval Doom-clone
Castles and its expansion The Northern Campaign - The original castle sim. Castles is totally focused on castle-building. You build a castle, defend it as it is built, and then move on to the next one once it is complete. You have to carefully manage (and micromanage) the construction of every single piece of the castle, defend it from attacks, plan your finances, feed and pay your workers, respond to various requests or questions from people... as I've always loved castles, I thought this game was fantastic. I mean, it's a game about castles! How can you get better than that? :) Really though, while the interface is archaic, the game is pretty good, and unique in its total focus on castle-building. Nothing else quite matches that, not even the Stronghold games. The expansion is great, adding a longer, harder campaign and other extras.
Castles II: Siege and Conquest - completely different from the original, this game is pretty much like Lords of the Realm more than anything. Solid game, but disappointing for people like me who wanted something more like the original... though overall, it's another great medieval-themed game.
Unnatural Selection - one of Maxis' more interesting and unique games, this genetic engeneering sim is a pretty good game. It was really hard for me at the time, but once you understand it, it's really engaging. Read that very thick manual!
Screamer 2 - drift racing... fast and very nice looking for the time.
Whiplash - good futuristic-ish racing game
Sid & Al's Incredible Toons - The Incredible Machine, cartoon-style. Fantastic game!
Hardball III (with Major League Players Disk) - my favorite baseball game ever, I loved this game
Descent - I only ever beat like two levels, but always thought it was really impressive.
Betrayal at Krondor - one of the great PC RPGs...
Caesar II - Roman SimCity? Sure, but it was also extremely difficult... I never beat two levels before like last year, despite owning it since it was new. I did like it, but it was just so hard... I saw that 'galley slave' video a lot. Oh well, the game's great anyway.
SimCity - of course
SimCity 2000 - maybe my favorite Maxis game ever... just about perfect.
Lemmings
Micro Machines 2: Turbo Tournament - I've always loved the Micro Machines games, and this one's one of the best!


Demos (retail games that I only played the demo of but want to mention anyway)
--
Worms - Worms 2 was the one that really made it great, but the first was pretty good before that.
Mass Destruction - blow stuff up! :D
Star Fighter - really interesting game, look up some videos of the 3DO version on Youtube...

Hmm, that list is definitely way too long to be helpful at all... oh well. I'm not deleting anything. :)

Trebuken
03-19-2009, 01:01 AM
Many of the above plus:

Darklands
Ultima Games
Magic Candle series
Lands of Lore
Arena
Questron II
Phantasie III
Wizards Crown
Shard of Spring
Demons Winter

Big RPG/SSI fan.

Wing Commander was probably my favorite series...

Jorpho
03-19-2009, 01:20 AM
Gamespy did a pretty nifty article on this subject recently - at least, if you can still call something like this nifty after it's been done a few dozen times.
http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/950/950214p1.html

p_b
03-19-2009, 01:31 AM
Railroad Tycoon!

And Civilization, of course.

zemmix
03-19-2009, 02:24 AM
I was always more of a turn based strategy fan.

A few that pop up in my mind are:
Master of Orion
Civilization
Empire Deluxe
Heroes of Might and Magic II
Machiavelli the Prince

Though there's so many more that I'm just forgetting about.

Ed Oscuro
03-19-2009, 02:32 AM
Gamespy did a pretty nifty article on this subject recently - at least, if you can still call something like this nifty after it's been done a few dozen times.
http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/950/950214p1.html
I see they're just calling them "GameSpy Staff" now. I wonder if it's anybody I know - the last few years have seemed somewhat like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu7PxhwDGqw&feature=related), but anyway.

Hardcore
03-19-2009, 06:35 AM
The Gold Box Games. All of them.
TIE Fighter
F-15 Strike Eagle
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Gunship 2000
Epic Pinball

Solertia
03-19-2009, 08:20 AM
Anything by LucasArts :D

kaedesdisciple
03-19-2009, 08:32 AM
(never heard of Champions of Zulala...)

Champions of Zulula I found on a lark a long time ago. It's certainly not the greatest game by any stretch of the imagination, but I still found it fun. Unfortunately, in all these years I've only been able to track down the shareware version. If anyone knows where I can buy a legit copy or has ever found/cracked a complete copy, please let me know.

murdoc rose
03-19-2009, 11:48 AM
doom!

Ed Oscuro
03-19-2009, 01:23 PM
The Gold Box Games. All of them.
TIE Fighter
F-15 Strike Eagle
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Gunship 2000
Epic Pinball
Nice. You just reminded me to play a few of these games (which I have sitting around). Well, I'm not sure I could get into F-15 SE, but 25th Anniversary is definitely a must.

The original Gunship I have on X68000, probably doesn't hold a candle to playing the sequel on a fast PC though.

Jorpho
03-19-2009, 03:29 PM
but 25th Anniversary is definitely a must.If you don't have the CD-ROM version with voice acting from the original cast, it's not hard to find a download for it.

roushimsx
03-19-2009, 05:25 PM
If you don't have the CD-ROM version with voice acting from the original cast, it's not hard to find a download for it.

I bought a dirt cheap sealed copy back in '07 (i think?). Something like $15 off of ebay or whatever. Totally worth it. Overall I liked it better than Judgment Rites, though Judgment Rites didn't suffer from that horrifically difficult end battle.

Some people I've talked to that had pirated the game in their younger days and didn't have the copy protection have joked about how the ending wasn't all that difficult after so many battles with the pirates. With the copy protection (a map), you can easily see which planet you have to hop to. If you haven't got it then you're stuck hopping between the various planets and hoping you hit the right one; a wrong choice leads to a battle with some pirate vessels.

Maybe after a couple dozen practice battles then the intro and ending would be a hell of a lot easier, sure. God damn was that last fight frustrating.

Judgment Rites had such funky background art. Like, every scene had to have a wonky perspective, so the character sprites never fit in right. Some really neat writing, though.

Ed Oscuro
03-19-2009, 08:14 PM
If you don't have the CD-ROM version with voice acting from the original cast, it's not hard to find a download for it.
I bet I have the 3.5" version. I'll see.

Funny to think that the first "rare" game my folks' house was bought by my dad. Probably the only Trek related thing that's kept up its value too. Edit: Oh wow, those classic VHS tapes of TOS are worth sub-$5 now. Nice!

Overbite
03-19-2009, 08:47 PM
Doom ages like cheese and wine

Ed Oscuro
03-19-2009, 11:03 PM
No DOOM before its time.

Berserker
03-20-2009, 12:42 AM
Man, there's way too many to list. Luckily others have already covered a lot of them, so I'll just list the ones I haven't seen yet:

Blood
Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer
Curse of the Catacombs
Daggerfall
Dungeon Keeper
Ecstatica II
Fantasy General
The Fortress of Dr. Radiaki
Grand Theft Auto (and London 1969)
Life & Death
Magic Carpet
MechWarrior 2
Nitemare-3D
Planetfall
Prince of Persia
Return to Zork
Seven Cities of Gold
Silent Service II
Strife
Wasteland
X-COM: UFO Defense

Ed Oscuro
03-20-2009, 02:00 AM
Nitemare-3D
I hunted down a 3.5" disk on eBay for this game recently. I didn't tear it open though, since it was probably just the shareware (again) and on top of that it was a tear-open sleeve.

I must scan it sometime; it's got some really, really bad cover art.

Onto the game itself, I find myself playing the shareware off and on now and then. For some reason this game grips me while Wolf3D never really did - for one, there seems to be more to do.

Other note: There were at least two major versions of the graphics in the game, with what I think was an old style having "taller" looking characters, a bit sketchy but rather cool, and a "newer" one with more distinct separated colors but also looking rather chunky and silly. The face on the Wikipedia article's screenshots seems to be from the EDIT later version. This page (http://www.classicdosgames.com/interviews/davidpgray.html) seems to have the early version graphics.

Also, the original Hugo trilogy is amazing and I must replay the games sometime. I don't think I got through the second one entirely, however (the mansion / will-inspired whodunit thingamajig with random forest scenes. OOER!)

Berserker
03-20-2009, 03:00 AM
I hunted down a 3.5" disk on eBay for this game recently. I didn't tear it open though, since it was probably just the shareware (again) and on top of that it was a tear-open sleeve.

I must scan it sometime; it's got some really, really bad cover art.

Onto the game itself, I find myself playing the shareware off and on now and then. For some reason this game grips me while Wolf3D never really did - for one, there seems to be more to do.

Other note: There were at least two major versions of the graphics in the game, with what I think was an old style having "taller" looking characters, a bit sketchy but rather cool, and a "newer" one with more distinct separated colors but also looking rather chunky and silly. The face on the Wikipedia article's screenshots seems to be from the EDIT later version. This page (http://www.classicdosgames.com/interviews/davidpgray.html) seems to have the early version graphics.

Also, the original Hugo trilogy is amazing and I must replay the games sometime. I don't think I got through the second one entirely, however (the mansion / will-inspired whodunit thingamajig with random forest scenes. OOER!)

I wasn't aware that it was linked to a trilogy, though it's interesting to see from that link you posted that the other games don't seem to remotely resemble Nitemare.

The way I came across that game was when I was a kid, I somehow got my hands on one of those CDs that was packed with about a zillion shareware games. That's also how I first came in contact with Descent, which I also love but was already mentioned, and there was also Ken's Labyrinth and a bunch of other games which mostly sucked or didn't work for one reason or another, and then Nitemare-3D.

I liked Nitemare because of the whole Haunted House setting with zombies and Frankenstein monsters and vampire bats, which I really hadn't seen before in an FPS. I also liked how it was sort of reminiscent of Curse of the Catacombs (Catacomb 3-D); like how your character portrait in the HUD would slowly turn into a bloodied, dessicated corpse as you got more damaged, though I think in Nitemare you actually turned into a skeleton. Either way, much more dramatic and interesting than in Wolfenstein, so it was a nice touch.

It was kind of a pain in the ass to play though at the time. It was one of those games that you had to reboot into "Extended Mode" or something like that for it to work, and even then I remember it crashing many times. Still, it was good fun.

A Black Falcon
03-20-2009, 03:30 AM
Also, the original Hugo trilogy is amazing and I must replay the games sometime. I don't think I got through the second one entirely, however (the mansion / will-inspired whodunit thingamajig with random forest scenes. OOER!)

I mentioned the Hugo trilogy in my list, I loved those games too... never got into Nitemare 3D because it was an FPS, and after noting that fact and maybe playing a level or two of the shareware I never played it again, but I loved the adventure games for sure.


*Hugo's House of Horrors (and its two sequels -- the first graphic adventures I played... still old favorites of mine, particularly the first one. Short and easy once you know how to beat it, but pretty fun anyway. I have Hugo's House of Horrors and Hugo 3: Jungle of Doom registered, but not Hugo 2: Whodunnit?. The shareware versions are complete, though, so I've beaten that one anyway. We registered the first one because we were stuck and needed the promised hint guide...

Great games, it's too bad that after Nitemare 3D David P. Gray largely stopped making games.

Oh, and reading that interview (again? Not sure if I've read it before), it's funny that for the shortest game, Hugo 3 is the only one I haven't finished... :)

... Really though, if you know what you're doing Hugo 1 is really, really short. Is Hugo 3 really shorter than that? Hugo 1 takes a while longer your first time of course, though... but on that note, despite liking the games, I didn't like that bridge in the second game one bit. Getting across it is so, so hard (in the DOS versions that are what I have mostly played)! And I used to think the mummy in the first game was tough... the mummy is easy to avoid for me now, but that bridge is just ridiculous. The worst part, though, is that you can go across and get the paper wet... and have no idea for a long, long time that you've messed up. It doesn't tell you, it just blocks off your path much later in the game when you need that piece of paper. That's just cruel... it's stuff like that, or the deaths in Sierra games, that are a big part of why I love the Lucasarts style of adventure game so much. They'd give you hard puzzles, sure, but wouldn't do that kind of annoyance.

Oh, and the hedge maze was kind of a pain too. Hugo 2 is fun, but not quite as good as the original, I think, despite being a bit longer... it certainly is a good game though even so. :)

Not sure why I never finished Hugo 3... got stuck at some point and I just gave up and never went back, obviously.

VG_Maniac
03-20-2009, 07:01 AM
Wolfenstein 3D
Sim City
Duke Nukem
Raptor: Call of the Shadows
CD-Man
SpaceQuest II
Hugo
Commander Keen
King's Quest IV

kaedesdisciple
03-20-2009, 08:34 AM
Oh wow, I almost entirely forgot about Arachnophobia! Nothing quite like a bit of good spider-killing fun.

Jorpho
03-20-2009, 10:51 AM
... Really though, if you know what you're doing Hugo 1 is really, really short. Is Hugo 3 really shorter than that?Yes, Hugo 3 is pretty short. There's really only one or two major puzzles, but they're tricky ones.


I didn't like that bridge in the second game one bit. Getting across it is so, so hard (in the DOS versions that are what I have mostly played)!The trick is to plan your route in advance as much as possible, and then purposefully drop the matches (yes, matches, not paper) when you get close to the other side.

I think I was never able to finish the game until years later when I finally found a FAQ. I never found the magnifying glass, since it's not at all obvious that you can walk off one screen in a different direction to get to the screen where it is found!

Barracuda
03-20-2009, 10:53 AM
1. Commander Blood
2. Deja Vu

I played those two games over and over.

retrobenj
03-20-2009, 11:00 AM
Wolfenstein 3D
Sim City
Duke Nukem
Raptor: Call of the Shadows
CD-Man
SpaceQuest II
Hugo
Commander Keen
King's Quest IV

hugo that brings back old memories i remember a saturday day time kids show in the uk where they had a hugo game

Daltone
03-20-2009, 11:32 AM
hugo that brings back old memories i remember a saturday day time kids show in the uk where they had a hugo game

Was that Live and Kicking?

JanLazer
03-20-2009, 11:54 AM
All the Sierra adventure games.
Full Throttle
Sam & Max
Monkey Island
Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday


I know there's more...I'm still all about DOS...To hell with windows! I want to manually type my exe and bat files, dammit! Dir /w/p!

Robocop2
03-20-2009, 12:22 PM
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
Wolfpack
DOOM 1,2 and the expansions

jb143
03-20-2009, 12:57 PM
I've played a lot of DOS games and demo games but I can remember very few of them for some reason. Most of the full games I had either came with a computer or other add on hardware.

MY favorites out of the ones I can can remember are...
Jurrasic Park
D/Generation
Sim City 2000

Namnuta
03-20-2009, 01:37 PM
My all time favorite dos game was Mean Streets by Access Software. The first of the Tex Murphy Adventures. Count Down and Crime wave were also quite good Access Titles. And Martian Memorandum, I preordered it. Hah

Next would be Rise of the Dragon @ Heart of China. Dynamix titles were amazing.

And of course all of the Space Quest Series.

Budokan was also a favorite.

OG Prince of Persia

Wing Commander 1 - Have to use a boot disk with EMM386 (spelling?) for expanded memory

Kyrandia - Only played the first one.

A Black Falcon
03-20-2009, 02:37 PM
Yes, Hugo 3 is pretty short. There's really only one or two major puzzles, but they're tricky ones.

Huh, obviously I got stuck on one of them.


The trick is to plan your route in advance as much as possible, and then purposefully drop the matches (yes, matches, not paper) when you get close to the other side.

That's right, I'd forgotten what it was. Still though, it was hard to maneuver... Oh, and there was a limit to the number of times you could cross the bridge, right? Except the game didn't tell you that either? Such good design...


I think I was never able to finish the game until years later when I finally found a FAQ. I never found the magnifying glass, since it's not at all obvious that you can walk off one screen in a different direction to get to the screen where it is found!

Yeah, no way would I have finished with an FAQ. I didn't beat Hugo 2 until after we had the internet and I found a guide for it, for sure... that bridge alone would have doomed me. I remember getting pretty far back then, but not all the way through... the game has some very obscure puzzles.


D/Generation

D/Generation is fantastic, I do have it and would have mentioned it in my list if I'd remembered it... very good game.

Ed Oscuro
03-20-2009, 03:02 PM
I wasn't aware that it was linked to a trilogy, though it's interesting to see from that link you posted that the other games don't seem to remotely resemble Nitemare.

The way I came across that game was when I was a kid, I somehow got my hands on one of those CDs that was packed with about a zillion shareware games. That's also how I first came in contact with Descent, which I also love but was already mentioned, and there was also Ken's Labyrinth and a bunch of other games which mostly sucked or didn't work for one reason or another, and then Nitemare-3D.

I liked Nitemare because of the whole Haunted House setting with zombies and Frankenstein monsters and vampire bats, which I really hadn't seen before in an FPS. I also liked how it was sort of reminiscent of Curse of the Catacombs (Catacomb 3-D); like how your character portrait in the HUD would slowly turn into a bloodied, dessicated corpse as you got more damaged, though I think in Nitemare you actually turned into a skeleton. Either way, much more dramatic and interesting than in Wolfenstein, so it was a nice touch.

It was kind of a pain in the ass to play though at the time. It was one of those games that you had to reboot into "Extended Mode" or something like that for it to work, and even then I remember it crashing many times. Still, it was good fun.
Yep, the shareware CD I got at Babbage's (now a GameStop) had all of the Hugo trilogy, and Nitemare 3-D too. The CD was called "Game Empire" and had a ton of great shareware stuff on it from across the ages of DOS. I believe I was able to run the Game Empire version straight from Win95, but I could be wrong. It would've been pretty tough for me to figure out how to get it working from the CD and DOS back then.

I think you do get bloodied in the original version, but in the later version (i.e. the Win demo version I have on my XP machine), it looks like layers of skin wearing off to show a skeleton. Pretty nasty looking either way!

There's some great humorous bits throughout all the Hugo games; they aren't so evident through much of Nitemare 3-D, but in the first episode there's a strange puzzle where you have to get a closet full of enemies to dance to the Thriller tune, which is pretty funny. There's also some flat-out bizarre puzzles, like pushing a two-foot high pile of concrete blocks to stop a ceiling mounted machine gun from shooting you (even though no part of the turret is actually blocked by the gun, and you're obviously standing straight up).

I really should email Mr. Gray sometime with a few questions. Last year's interview was great but there's just a few more questions I'd ask about.

I also should look into the Catacomb 3-D series, since I enjoyed it quite a bit when I played the shareware a few years ago (somebody put together a Classicgaming site dedicated to it).

GM80
03-20-2009, 03:41 PM
Forgot to mention the Incredible Machine series. There's a modern ripoff sold at Target called Crazy Machines for about $10 ... still pretty good.

Baloo
09-27-2009, 10:49 AM
Some of my favorite DOS games:

Ducktales: The Quest for Gold
Jeopardy (not sure which version though)

SegaAges
09-27-2009, 01:57 PM
Wing Commander Series
Commander Keen
Jazz Jackrabbit
Duke Nukem 1,2,3D
Epic Pinball
Rebel Assault 2
Chopper 2

ScourDX
09-27-2009, 03:47 PM
Chris Sawyer Transport Tycoon Deluxe. It is still popular to these day and fan already made it open source called Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe (http://www.openttd.org/en/).

JSoup
09-27-2009, 03:58 PM
I've never really been a PC gamer of any kind, but I've always been a fan of DinoPark Tycoon and Museum Madness.

Game Freak
09-27-2009, 05:10 PM
I'm not quite sure what makes DOs games differ from 3.x/9X, but i have Rogue and Galactic and like those, as well as Warcraft...and i have the old Sim games.

boatofcar
09-28-2009, 05:04 AM
I have a lot of good memories of playing game show games on the 386's at school. Classic Concentration, Win Lose Or Draw, and Jeopardy were all pretty good. Win Lose Or Draw actually had no drawing mechanic for the players, if memory serves.

Cloud121
09-28-2009, 09:41 PM
The usual suspects: Doom, Hugo, Wolfenstein, Commander Keen, etc.

But the big one was Traffic Department 2192. A very mature storyline, and a great overhead shooter. I remember watching my step-brother play it when I was 8 or 9.

Gameguy
09-28-2009, 11:35 PM
I almost forgot about it as it's been awhile, but I liked playing Cross Country Canada. I first played it in school in the mid 90's though the game is older than that.

Vkmies
09-28-2009, 11:57 PM
Heroes of might and magic 2
Wolfenstein 3d

cyberfluxor
10-12-2009, 01:45 AM
When a buddy of mine told me about this site years ago I was mainly a 90's PC gamer and still enjoy a lot of what the DOS era has to offer. There are a lot of wonderful games listed above so I'll just stick with those for now.



commander keen (series)
police quest
duke nukem

The whole Commander Keen series was awesome and is one of the most solid platforming set of games I've played. When I first discovered the secret exit in Doom 2 that brings you to Wolfenstein 3D level 1 I was stoked. When they threw Keen in there hanging around the boss exit I was impressed how they mashed it together in that hidden area.

Police Quest is a special beast of a series. People always raved about it and I happened to stumble across a complete collection in the past several months, but still haven't installed! I've been slumping in the gaming time for awhile however it still sits at the top of my to-play DOS list.

The Duke Nukem platformers didn't appeal to me much as Mario on the console and Commander Keen on PC had spoiled me. When 3D came out I was impressed and played the hell out of it along with some of the dozens of add-on packs that were released. The remarks Duke makes during gameplay really brought it more to life as a teenager.


Descent
Descent is one of my top shooters of all time. I spent so many hours playing it single player and over dial-up after middle school with friends. I never had a joystick to play this game so when I finally attempted with one a few years back it felt odd, but playable. The second game was a total breakthrough as well with more weapons and adversaries to contend with, but the Guide bot almost felt like a cheat being used as a shield and pointer to advance through the levels instead of memorizing maps to use the map screen less often.

As for the third installment, I borrowed it from a friend in high school and it didn't work on my machine of the time and haven't seen the game since. I do recall far superior graphics (low resolution by todays standards for sure), higher fidelity sound effects and music (over the MIDI quality of the earlier installments), and better physics in the world for explosions and object collision.

Recently I picked up at a thrift store Descent: Levels of the World, which I was unfamiliar with before. Apparently they held a competition for Descent level creation (I still haven't found a working level editor to use myself) and conditioned the games into a package that runs off the disc, piggy backing from the Descent installation on the hard disk. They have rankings including the "best" level that can be played through under the "New Game" selection. Pretty cool stuff, but some really odd levels too.



Wolfenstein 3d
Doom
X-Wing / TIE Fighter
Sim City

I've been slowly playing through Wolf3D again an old DOS laptop with "Bring 'em on!" difficulty. I remember making maze maps with the editor and tossing the Pac-Man monsters in there. I should get the editor placed on there to mess around with it again. Good times.

Doom 1 & 2 were great FPS titles that kept me on the edge of my seat. One thing I enjoyed was how they shared the WAD format enabling a player to edit both games along with Heretic maps. I didn't get much into deathmaps as not many friends used Kali so I never did and we always seemed to have complications otherwise. It was fun swapping our custome games amongst each other though.

X-Wing is an excellent free roaming shooter and in my opinion one of the best Star Wars games. I've played many and they always have come off as budget titles or falling short to deliver in some form, but this one really stuck out for me. I always enjoyed going up against star destroyers with TIE Fighters buzzing around. It did a really great job placing the player in the middle of the action sequence.

SimCity is an ultimate simulation game. After playing many other city building games and sequals to the original, this one always strikes back home for me. It's so simple but the graphics and interface give the gameplay justice even today and work with the player well in accomplishing the games goal of city survival. The random seeded maps give the game diversity, but enables the player to recall a favorite map layout to attempt other strategies. I always liked the SNES port that included seasonal landscapes and Bowser as a replacement to Godzilla.



Cannon Fodder

Funny this game mentioned. I picked it up a year ago after finally spotting it. I just remember good things spoken of it but don't recall from whom or how I know it. A few months back Retro Gamer had an article on the game and told myself I'd play it but didn't get around to it. Now that it's mentioned I have my '98 machine started up with the CD in the tray ready to go once I'm done posting.



*Raptor: Call of the Shadows - the best PC-exclusive shmup there is!

SkyRoads (now +) - it's now freeware and I have that, but back then I just had the shareware, which just had a few tracks

Warcraft: Orcs and Humans - my first real RTS... the game that truly made me a Blizzard fan. Archaic now, but it was an amazing game for its time!
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (plus expansion) - this runs too fast on new computers and is best played on Win95 in the WCII BNE, but I have the originals as well of course.

King's Quest VII - the only KQ I've actually beaten... it is also on Win95, but I played the DOS version because it was fullscreen. Pretty good, though not Sierra's best.

Worms - Worms 2 was the one that really made it great, but the first was pretty good before that.

Raptor is one of those fun shooters for the PC done right. I've played so many poor pieces of garbage that either lack substance in the game or have a terrible gameplay. Although it is repetitive and gaining cash to upgrade takes a few runs through the graphics and handling make up for it. Having the ability to save and come back later is also a wonderful feature.

I'm suprised someone shared SkyRoads (http://www.bluemoon.ee/history/skyroads/) in the thread. I actually enjoy how they opened the music to everyone who wants to hear it. If anyone hasn't checked that little game out before I suggest at least following the link to read up on it a bit.

Warcraft: Orcs and Humans was a true accomplishment for Blizzard. My first introduction to them was through Blackthrone and The Lost Vikings demo's via the Cyberia game disc, which also contained Mario Teaches Typing. I was fortunate to eventually play the full versions of those games later, but with that I had already grounded what Blizzard was. A neighbor was talking about Warcraft and somehow my brother talked my parents into getting it for us and the rest is fun times. It was the first RTS game I recall playing as well so I have a strong attachment to older Blizzard titles.

Sierra put out a lot of adventure games, but the one I actually had and played some time with was King's Quest V. I've touched intro basis with each of the KQ games but that one is still my favorite. One of my college buddies was a huge Space Quest and Leisure Suit Larry nut and is understandable as those lines of games appear to be interesting, but I'm not much of a point & click player and it's hard for me to get into those games today. I own them and may one day finally break down and play them through.

Worms was a crazy fun party game. My first exposure was at school in a Macintosh lab. Someone had set it up and everyone was playing when we could. Later games like World Party, Armageddon, and 3D just kept taking it to the next level of entertainment. It's funny they have it on XBL and they reverted to the 2D graphics again. Fun!

Push Upstairs
10-12-2009, 02:19 AM
The "Build Trilogy"

"Blood" - if only for the crazy ass weapons and the hilarity that comes from their use.

"Shadow Warrior" - for the one liners.

"Duke Nukem 3D" - First in the trilogy, plenty of attitude and humor. Shake it baby!

jb143
10-12-2009, 11:49 AM
Probally Warcraft for me. It was the first game I ever downloaded a demo for (seems like it took forver on my 28.8 modem at the time) and was subsequently the first computer game I ever bought in the store with my own money.

calthaer
01-11-2010, 05:38 PM
I suppose I'll just mention the obvious ones:
Ultima series (esp. VII, not so much VIII)
Wing Commander series
Lucasarts adventures
Commander Keen
X-Com: UFO Defense

Those games were awesome; truly, the early 90s were a golden age for PC gaming, the luster of which it has never really reclaimed.

Two other gems that are favorites of mine that don't seem to be that well known:

Celtic Tales: Balor of the Evil Eye
This is an engrossing turn-based strategy game that is pretty epic in scale. I've never finished it and keep meaning to do so.

Spellcraft: Aspects of Valor
This game is, simply put, amazing. This one I HAVE finished, and it took a long time - but man, this was awesome. You essentially play a wizard-in-training who rises to dominance. There are two parts to this game: traveling around the world to collect / sell "regents," and fighting on a battlefield, usually against an AI wizard. Then you had a lab where you could prepare all your spells for upcoming battles...you had to stockpile them and make them with the regents you collected...you could also modify spells by adding more ingredients and make them more powerful / last longer / etc. These customized spells could be kept, with customized labels, in your own "cookbook."

Then you go out onto the battlefield (Earth, Air, Fire, Water, Mind, Celestial, and Death - a special map you could get to by dying; later in the game it was pretty advantageous to go there to collect regents and items) and let loose. Loads of fun; I should re-play this game sometime.

sheva249
01-29-2010, 07:52 AM
My favorite ones are:-

wolf-3D :hail:
prince :moon:
Xorgan :rockets:
p-5 X_x

And yes Xatex :onfire:

Ravenswood
01-29-2010, 12:30 PM
I'm a big fan of the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Gold Box games. The old Might & Magic series is pretty good, too. I have the console ports of some of those, but it just ain't the same.