New PS2

[buttasuperb]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/news_6029048.html

[omnedon]

O_O

Where'd my jaw go?


Hmm. If it's price point is as high as they are hinting (High end electronics component) this may be sony's version of the Panasonic Qube, with far more functionality.


http://www.zeldaguide.com/gamecube/_borders/11qube.jpg

[IntvGene]

Damn! That looks sweet. And, they've got some decent features on there too. Do you think this is to hold us over until the PS3?

But, I'm not going to buy it. I've been milked enough already by Sony, thanks.

[tynstar]

That looks pretty damn cool!!! To bad it's a PS2 :-D

[rbudrick]

I imagine that this will be very expensive. Being so, I can just see it crashing and burning. For a company that is trying to come out of the red, Sony better have some killer marketing for this baby.

And it doesn't accept memory card from former playstation models (1 or 2)?

Yeah, real slick and modern....whatever. I'll wait until I see the price tag.

-Rob

[Quazick]

Umm I want a new console not a new computer! Jeez... :bad-words: :devilish:

[FrankLee]

I think its gonna be expensive as all hell with all that stuff

[zmeston]

I imagine that this will be very expensive. Being so, I can just see it crashing and burning. For a company that is trying to come out of the red, Sony better have some killer marketing for this baby.

And it doesn't accept memory card from former playstation models (1 or 2)?

Yeah, real slick and modern....whatever. I'll wait until I see the price tag.

-Rob

The price tag's going to be high, but as Sony states, the PSX (the unofficial abbreviation made real!) is aimed at the high-end consumer with cash to burn. I think Omnedon's comparison to the Panasonic Qube is a very good one. The PSX is also an excellent way for Sony to experiment with features that are almost guaranteed to appear in the PS3 -- built-in hard drive, Memory Stick ports.

The PSX won't have any effect on the Console Wars as a whole, but it surely is cool.

EDIT: I take back that last sentence. The more I read about Sony's current financial woes (other than the profitable PS division), the more I realize the significance of the PSX. Sony is suddenly looking quite vulnerable...

-- Z.

[Captain Wrong]

...and I'll bet it still has only 2 controller ports.

[hezeuschrist]

When playing games, you'll plug your controllers into the rear of the PSX console, where the hard drive and Sony Memory Stick compatibility have clearly rendered the standard PS2 memory cards obsolete.

PSX, please step into my office.

YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED.

[maxlords]

Bah I say. Nifty looking but gonna be a novelty. When they bomb, I'll buy one on clearance :)

[Raedon]

PS2 to the Power of X O_O

[zmeston]

When playing games, you'll plug your controllers into the rear of the PSX console, where the hard drive and Sony Memory Stick compatibility have clearly rendered the standard PS2 memory cards obsolete.

PSX, please step into my office.

YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED.

I don't get it. You're upset because Sony has decided to switch to a new save-game medium with a higher capacity and compatibility with all its other home-electronics gizmos, which introduces a world of cool gameplay options (importing pictures from a Sony digital camera, et cetera)?

-- Z.

[zmeston]

...and I'll bet it still has only 2 controller ports.

You are correct, unfortunately.

-- Z.

[hezeuschrist]

Well, it destroys all backwards compatability with the PS2/PSOne. But I really don't care about that, I was more annoyed by controllers in the back of the thing, that's just retarded.

[zmeston]

Well, it destroys all backwards compatability with the PS2/PSOne. But I really don't care about that, I was more annoyed by controllers in the back of the thing, that's just retarded.

Oh, okay. Yeah, it's definitely a case of aesthetics over functionality, which concerns me. Figures that Sony would start making mistakes after I post 30 messages singing the praises of the PSP. Heh.

-- Z.

[omnedon]

Maybe the controller ports in the back are a nod to classic gamers, original VCS style!! ;)

[Videogamerdaryll]

http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/images/smilies/perky.gifSweeeet..

[hezeuschrist]

Maybe the controller ports in the back are a nod to classic gamers, original VCS style!! ;)

Or a nod to the sleekline whores, where the look of their system is the most important thing, not the games or the hardware capabilities. They couldn't do little flaps like they did for the memory card slots?

[mikeetler]

It definitely looks like Sony is trying to fire the first shot in the "enhanced" console wars. Microsoft was (still is?) working an an enhanced XBox called "Freon" that added TiVo like support to the system, which is what the PSX 120 Gig HD is really in there for. The addition of the DVD recorder definitely makes it better then any DVR on the market today, but I would expect cheaper units to be out by the time the PSX hits without the game play features.

[Ed Oscuro]

And we've been calling 'em PSXes all along. Oops...

[bargora]

sleekline whores
LOL

[le geek]

If the PSX does Tivo like stuff then that'll be very cool.

Out of my tax bracket, but very cool.

That being said the PS2 isn't my favorite console at the moment so a souped up one doesn't do much for me.

I was spoiled by the number of good and original stuff on the Dreamcast, and am still bummed by it's demise.

It doesn't help that I can count the good PS2 games I've played that aren't sequels on one hand: ICO, SSX, and Kingdom Hearts.

I did enjoy Ridge Racer V and Suikoden III though...

Cheers,
Ben

[Ed Oscuro]

If the thing's got a proper lens, we're halfway to making this baby a decent console :D

[MarkM2112]

Why does it need a TV Tuner??? Don't TV's already have one? Plus, the idea of the rear mounted controller ports is just a bad one... unless they feel they could make a mint on controller extension cables...

[hamburgler]

It doesn't even have the i-link and firewall ports on it which doesn't make sense at all.

[brandver3]

If this is any hint of where they are going with their counsols, I don't think Nintendo as much to fear from the PSP.

[Kid Ice]

I'm interested in how this one turns out because it's success or failure will speak to something I've been saying for a long time; they should NEVER make a console do anything except play videogames. And they shouldn't make something that's not a console (ie a DVD player) play games. Every attempt to do so thus far has been a failure. I guess you could argue that the PS2 bucks this trend with its DVD functionality, but I disagree; that feature is just a waste of Sony's money.

Is Sony this desparate?

And what do we call the real PSX now?

ICE

[zmeston]

I'm interested in how this one turns out because it's success or failure will speak to something I've been saying for a long time; they should NEVER make a console do anything except play videogames. And they shouldn't make something that's not a console (ie a DVD player) play games. Every attempt to do so thus far has been a failure. I guess you could argue that the PS2 bucks this trend with its DVD functionality, but I disagree; that feature is just a waste of Sony's money.

Is Sony this desparate?

And what do we call the real PSX now?

ICE

Judging from the financial reports, Sony is indeed this desperate, as the non-PlayStation portion of the company took an enormous beating (which I foolishly wasn't aware of until very recently), and they're looking to the PS segment of the company to drag them back into the black.

Since the PS2's game format is DVD-ROM, the DVD functionality isn't a waste of Sony's money, just an added feature, like the PS1's ability to play CDs via its CD-ROM drive. The PSX, however, is most definitely in the direction of the "set-top box," just as the PSP is the self-proclaimed "Walkman of the 21st century."

We can call the original PlayStation the PS1 (as I do), or the PlayStation, or the PS one. We call the PSX, the PSX. Heh.

-- Z.

[zmeston]

It doesn't even have the i-link and firewall ports on it which doesn't make sense at all.

Well, the iLink is also being dumped from the revised PS2 that launches next month, presumably to cut costs, and presumably to be replaced by LAN linkup via the Network Adaptor. Since the PSX sports a built-in Ethernet port, that will presumably be used for System Linking.

-- Z.

[zmeston]

If this is any hint of where they are going with their counsols, I don't think Nintendo as much to fear from the PSP.

As evidenced by the recent news item on the front page, Nintendo has its own considerable problems to overcome.

Man, the industry's suddenly gone very goofy. Here I thought Sony was the clear leader, and now the money-losing non-PS side is pressuring the money-making PS side into what could be colossal mistakes. (I'm much more confident in the success of the low-end PSP than the high-end PSX, but we'll see how Sony chooses to promote them.)

Then we have Microsoft, for which its Xbox operation is the only segment of its business that ISN'T turning a profit. Its shareholders are getting pissed off and wondering when, or if, red will become black. (Based on Microsoft's E3 '03 lineup, not for a LONG while.)

And then we have Nintendo, which finally pulled into second place on the strength of Zelda, but continues to suffer shrinking stock prices and ever-smaller profits.

I'm going to assume the fetal position and play Cratermaze now.

-- Z.

[Ed Oscuro]

That makes my day.

Who knows, maybe it's a good thing I've held onto that Neo Geo...

[Sylentwulf]

Can anyone post the picture, or link to a different site? Gamespot pictures always come up as a broken link for me.

[WiseSalesman]

Likewise....anywhere else I can see what this thing looks like?

[overengen]

You may find what you are looking for here...
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/421/421027p1.html

[Kid Ice]

We can call the original PlayStation the PS1 (as I do), or the PlayStation, or the PS one. We call the PSX, the PSX. Heh.

-- Z.

Problem is, the newer, white version is the PSONE. The PSX is the grey one.

ICE

[zmeston]

We can call the original PlayStation the PS1 (as I do), or the PlayStation, or the PS one. We call the PSX, the PSX. Heh.

-- Z.

Problem is, the newer, white version is the PSONE. The PSX is the grey one.

ICE

No, the gray one is the PlayStation. As I said earlier, Sony never officially used "PSX" until this new rev of the PS2 hardware. Me, I'm going with the all-purpose "PS1," 'cause I'm too lazy to type "PlayStation/PS one."

-- Z.

[Mr Mort]

I'm not really interested at all.

I'm sure the price will be in the $300.00 (or higher) range when it eventually hits North America, and I will NOT be getting one. With no means of transferring your memory card saves (unless Sony comes up with a utility to do it via networking), the controller ports in the back, it's evident this machine is not designed with gaming as its primary funtion. That's fine if you're looking for a set-top box, but I'm not looking for one. I can't see this appealing to much more than the niche market.

Again, I want a video game console, not a machine that has gaming as an afterthought, side-effect, or one of multiple features. It doesn't matter who the manufacturer is.

If this is the direction the PS3 is going to take, I'm not going to be pleased.

[petewhitley]

Why does it need a TV Tuner??? Don't TV's already have one?

In Japan, you need a special TV tuner to receive certain satellite broadcasts, and they aren't standard on all TV's. I would assume this feature is cut from the U.S. release...

[Quazick]

I think the TV Tuner allows the PSX to have Coaxial in for PVR like functions...

[Mr Mort]

The PSX is just asking to be hacked.

Wow, I can see the PSX and the XBOX modding/hacking scene being almost identical.

It will only be a matter of time before you can get a mod chip that will allow you to use your PSX to:

-Copy PS & PS2 games directly to your hard drive & play them off the HD
-Burn copies of PS & PS2 games
-Possibly run Linux & use it as a server
-Burn DVD media to your HD


The sky's the limit, especially with a built-in DVD burner.
I have no doubt people are going to have a field day with this...