What do you consider CIB?

[Draven]

I only have one NES CIB. It has the box, game, sleeve, foam block, manual, registration card, and the crappy poster insert. When I get on ebay there are tons of CIB's on there, but hardly any have the registration card or poster. Which do you consider complete? I opt for the latter, I could care less about a poster and card.

[Buyatari]

both are correct.
Some mean it to (C)omplete (I)n (B)ox
however much to the disdain of the complete collectors, it is comonly used as (C)art (I)nstructions (B)ox

Better to ask first.

[TonyTheTiger]

For simplicity's sake I consider CIB to be everything that came in the box when it was sold at retail. But that doesn't mean I'd value something less if one of those generic Nintendo Power pamphlets or something was all that was missing.


Some mean it to (C)omplete (I)n (B)ox
however much to the disdain of the complete collectors, it is comonly used as (C)art (I)nstructions (B)ox

Talk about an unlucky coincidence.

[eskobar]

I usually use Complete / CIB to list games that include box and manual .... i know that the most serious collectors dislike the use of the term "complete" for games that lack the extra inserts or reg cards :S

[Ed Oscuro]

Complete means it better dang well have everything it came with.

Including the pamphlets; if I'm buying domestic titles I often don't care about these, but import games often have stuff that interests me (yes, I do have duplicates of some ad pamphlets due to buying for completeness).

[TonyTheTiger]

The problem is when neither the seller nor buyer knows what actually came in the box to begin with. Unfortunately, very few places catalog all the incidental stuff like pamphlets, registration cards, foam inserts, etc. So unless the buyer/seller already knows what's supposed to be in there, if something has the game, manual, and box then somebody could very innocently call it CIB and not even think of the possibility that there was some obscure piece missing. Caveat emptor, I suppose.

[Ed Oscuro]

The problem is when neither the seller nor buyer knows what actually came in the box to begin with.
Live and learn. I'm pretty well able to determine if games within certain "series" are complete or not, like Konami GB titles from a certain era, or the Namco hardcover Famicom games, etc.

Buyer beware as always. Besides, what you don't know can't hurt you, right?

(Don't buy "sealed" games unless they're bargains if you value your money!)

[Cornelius]

I always assume it to mean Cart Inst. Box. That is just the safer way to go, and I usually don't care about the other stuff. Exceptions are extras like maps. If a game came with a map, then I tend to expect CIB to include the map, though it is definitely still something I'd double check on.

Disc games are a little different. Obviously it has to mean Complete, and while I know reg cards, etc. are technically required to be complete, for my purposes I consider cover art/manual/disc to be complete. It won't bother me one bit not to have the registration card that came with FFVII.

[Superman]

For me, I look at the term CIB as Cart, Instructions, Box. That is also what I generally consider complete.

The only time I wouldn't consider it complete is if the box mentioned an item in particular (a bonus cd for example) and it wasn't included.

[TonyTheTiger]

Oddly enough, while I'm forgiving of not everything being inside like registration cards, fliers, etc., I'm much less forgiving of things being torn out. A missing registration card that was a separate piece of paper? No problem. A missing registration card that was fixed inside the manual? I'm more bothered by that. It's not a deal breaker for me but I think it shows how I'm not always the most logical person on Earth.

[Aussie2B]

Complete to me means cart/disc, case/box, and manual. That's it. While I'm certainly happy to have more, I couldn't care less if the other generic bits and pieces are missing. It's not like I'm going to freak out about replacing my copy of a game just because it doesn't have something that I could just as well pull out of nearly any other game for said system. And even if it's unique like an obi, I still don't really care because it's ultimately meant to be trashed and thus doesn't carry the same weight as something useful like instructions or a case.

In terms of selling, though, I think the best thing a seller can do is list everything it DOES come with. There's no gain to be had from bitching at a guy for having a different opinion of complete or maybe not even knowing that it's missing a Nintendo Power ad or whatever. It's up to the buyer to ask for precise information if that's important to him or her, and personally, I save myself the trouble of answering questions by listing every paper insert, even if most people wouldn't care.

[Diosoth]

The box and instruction manual at bare minimum. In cases of NES, the styrofoam block fills empty space. The dust sleeve is nice.

Genesis must have the hanging store tab on top.

[Misto]

My general view of complete is box/manual/game. However if the game came with a map or guide I expect it to be considered complete. I don't care about reg. cards, posters, fliers, or those safety pamplets, and therefore dont consider them nesassary to be complete.

Another except is if it came with extra media, such as a demo disk or music cd. In the case of the Legacy of Ys for DS, it came with a CD in a cardboard sleeve, and I would consider a copy of this game complete with outer box, inner DS case, manual, game, cd, and cardboard sleeve.

[Hitman Tyler]

For me it varies per system. Don't wanna go on big rant, so....
Mainly I consider "complete in box" game and manual.
An if I could find extras such as the registration cards,etc in the same game box as another I take them out and put them in mine.

[Berserker]

All materials that are unique to that game. That to me is the most sensible definition of what minimally constitutes "complete".

So the manual is unique to that game, maps/posters are unique to that game, and for later collector's edition titles a "making of" DVD or material like that would be unique as well. Things like registration cards, subscribe to this-or-that gaming magazine, and "check out our other games!"-type things are a nice bonus, but they're not unique to that game, so you're probably not going to feel completely ripped-off if they're not there, unless you're buying the game for a museum or something.

But yeah, that's my minimal definition. Anything less than that and the term starts to lose its meaning.

[nate1749]

CIB means expensive and I'm not interested.

The foam and other junk not unique wouldn't matter to me if I was buying a CIB game and it came w/o it.

Nate

[A Black Falcon]

For all the games I got new (PC, console, whatever), I kept the boxes and manuals, as well as maps, posters, quick-start cards, etc, when they were included, but threw out many warranty cards (ones not attached in the manual) and ad flyers (Nintendo Power ones, for instance), because I didn't think those parts mattered at all. Aside from the games that I have since lost something for (at least one of something from this list: the cart/disc, manual, map/poster/etc, and box), which are a relative few, I'd consider them "complete".

I know that technically the ones I threw away those ad posters for aren't "complete", but ... close enough.

Of course, with some older PC games it's even more complex... which of those Blizzard notepads game with which game? Do I still have them all? I have no idea. :)

[k8track]

I'm a strict completist. I won't accept anything less than what I consider CIB. To me, CIB means:

• Cartridge (must have someone's name written on it in bic pen, preferably "Brandon", "Craig", or "Kodee")
• Instructions (must have high scores filled in)
• Box (must have huge price tag stuck to front)
• original receipt and warranty card(s) (Frappuccino stains a must)
• styrofoam or cardboard inserts (these are the most important part and MUST be pristine, or deal's off, chico)
• catalogs/posters with at least five unreleased Korean games
• cocktail napkin with David Crane's autograph
• polaroid photo of Chaz from Phantasy Star 2's mom
• Junior Mint(s)
• ticket stub to Foghat concert at state fair

Some people might call me obsessive. I call myself a national hero.

[Joe West]

CIB= Cart, manual, & all paper work need to be COMPLETE IN BOX

[muchomojo]

For me Cart/Box/Manual is good enough, though it's not quite complete.

[Flashback2012]

Back when the N64/Saturn/PS1 were the dominant consoles on the scene, I decided I wanted to switch gears and go for CIB games in my collection. Granted my interpretation of that is more "Cart/CD / Instructions / Booklet" and less "Complete in Box".

When trying to find games that fit my CIB criteria, these are generally the nuances I adhere to...

Cartridges/CDs
-No markings/writings on them from any kind of permanent marker
-No missing, peeling, or ripped stickers
-All factory applied stickers placed on cart correctly (no upside down stickers)
-No sun faded stickers
-No non-factory stickers such as GS price labels affixed over factory applied ones
-No rental store stickers applied on carts or CDs (the ones that say void when removed)
-Games are passed over for purchase if they lack bonus discs or music CDs the packaging says should be included.

Instructions
-Any maps and quick reference cards are considered part of the instructions.
-Posters, promo cards, movie tickets, spine cards and other bonus items are generally kept with the game and not discarded.
-Warranty/registration cards are generally kept. Advertisements like Nintendo Power subscription cards or expired TCBY coupons are tossed.
-Safety and Precaution Booklets that Nintendo is known to pack in with their titles get tossed out.
-Instruction books with ripped or missing pages/cover are passed up. Dog ear corners on books is acceptable if buying second-hand.

Box/Case
-Cardboard stock boxes are allowed to have some wear on them but DVD style cases should look as new as possible.
-Cases that have damage from water, mold, or have writing from marker on them are passed over.
-CD style cases can generally be swapped out unless it's a PS1 multi-CD case. Damaged PS1 Multi-CD cases are passed over for intact ones.
-The plastic on DVD style cases needs to be in good shape, not ripped or peeling.
-Inserts for games in DVD cases must be in good shape and free of any stickers applied to them (Damn GS for this f'ing practice).
-Cardstock slipcovers that the publisher packed with the game are considered part of the box (most PC games and some console games like Metal Slug 7 and Bioshock have them).

[HYB]

For me cib usually means the usual cart, instructions and box. However, if the games come with a map or other extra stuff like cd's, it has to be included. Also import games that have regcards and stuff have to have those.

I really couldn't care less about the extra stuff otherwise, besides, if you have ever tried to look for pal nes games that have even the most important 3 you know finding them with anything extra is a pain in the ass and a lot more money from your wallet.

[MrSparkle]

For me complete in box means a loose cart.

[Flippy8490]

CIB for me means the cart and instructions in the box. I don't care all that much about the reg cards/nintendo power ads, etc.

[nectarsis]

CIB=COMPLETE in box. It's been used for years for many different collectibles (toys especially). Cart Instructions Box is in my experiences a newer thing. I've been on Ebay since the mid/late 90's, and CIB used to always mean EVERYTHING that originally came with it.

[NES_Rules]

Generally, if something has the game, box, and manual I'll call it CIB but if it has everything (including styrofoam, registration cards, etc) I'll call it Complete. Although I try to never advertise something I'm selling as "Complete" or "CIB" unless I knew for sure it has everything that originally came with it.

[darkslime]

CIB mean cart instructions box for me.
I don't particularly care though, and will go for cart/disc only if it's cheaper.

[jcalder8]

I always think of it as Complete In Box but I accept it as meaning Cart Instruction Box for the general population.

[jdc]

When I used to collect N64, I insisted on completes that included all of the blow-in cards, cart baggies, warning papers and Nintendo Power subscrip forms. Needless to say, with that system being so kid oriented, it was a bitch to collect for under those conditions. I eventually gave up my stringent ideals, LOL.

[aaron7]

Referring to NES:

Game
Box
Manual
Styrofoam insert
Sleeve (if applicable)
Map (if applicable)

Posters, registration cards, Nintendo Power cards... those are nice but there's no way to know what actually came with the game unless you open a sealed one, so I don't include those.

[Ruudos]

All materials that are unique to that game. That to me is the most sensible definition of what minimally constitutes "complete".

So the manual is unique to that game, maps/posters are unique to that game, and for later collector's edition titles a "making of" DVD or material like that would be unique as well. Things like registration cards, subscribe to this-or-that gaming magazine, and "check out our other games!"-type things are a nice bonus, but they're not unique to that game, so you're probably not going to feel completely ripped-off if they're not there, unless you're buying the game for a museum or something.

But yeah, that's my minimal definition. Anything less than that and the term starts to lose its meaning.

I agree with this

[Buyatari]

To make it easy when I sell something I say
"everything you see"

[Tron 2.0]

To me cib means the game has it's case and manual.I'm not worry about if it has a spinecard or it's registration paper.