New Genesis Consoles ETA: Summer 2009

[tofu]

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/ddrgame/sega-console-16-bit.jpg

After way too many name changes and a few contracts I can finally start a new thread about this stuff.

Most of you should already have the original system consoles which means you're probably not interested in that blue thing but the handheld is pretty nifty!

I'm leaving work now but both systems will have twenty built in games. If you have any questions about them just post in this thread.

[Leo_A]

What games?

[Steve W]

And why does it look like there's an infrared port on the front of the Genesis? And will it have 32X functionality built-in? (It's a million-to-one longshot, I know.)

[SPAZ-12]

I'd love to get my hands on that portable one. A Nomad would be nice, but there is no way I'll ever drop the amount of money required for that battery draining beast.

Any word on what the prices will be and where to buy them (online or in Canada)?

[Sonicwolf]

I will be buying the little portable one but Im already up to my ears in home Genesis' consoles. I think around 10 now. LOL

[ooXxXoo]

Just being an ATGAMES co-related product, that farther lets me know is crap....
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[NayusDante]

Where's the Sega CD go?

Also, aren't the handheld's six buttons a little... upward?

[Tupin]

Looks pretty cool, I'm probably going to get it.

Would be awesome if either one had Sega CD/32X compatibility.

[MachineGex]

That handheld looks nice. I really like the FCMobile2, and can't wait to get my hands on this one.

Is it going to be priced around the same as the FCmobile2, or are having the 20 games built in going to increase the price? Also, any idea what is included in the portable, controllers, rca hook-ups, etc?

I am really happy that people are keeping these older systems alive with new hardware and new software. Very cool!

[Baloo]

That handheld looks suck with a shitty D-pad and a horrible 6-button layout.
The console looks nice though, but it's shape and color make it look a little cheap. If only it looked like the TecToy SMS.

So does this make the Genesis have like 20 different versions now?

[NayusDante]

Well, I can't say no to a 21st Genesis version if it's remotely shaped like Sonic's head.

[Sonicwolf]

That handheld looks suck with a shitty D-pad

The FC Mobile II has the same d-pad and it works out quite well.

[Diosoth]

My only concern now is that these don't suffer the awful quality of the AtGames Twin Pad Player clone. That thing is known for having poor game compatibility, graphical problems, and other issues. If AtGames is just using this deal to put the guts of that thing into a new casing, then no one will buy them.

[A Black Falcon]

Looks pretty cool, I'm probably going to get it.

Would be awesome if either one had Sega CD/32X compatibility.

Has any Genesis clone ever had that? I'd very much doubt that this one would be the first... it'd be awesome, but doubtful. And if that is true no collector or platform fan should really be buying one of these unless they already have other Genesises they can use the addons with and want one of these also anyway, pretty much, I'd say.

Also, in the US at least the Genesis is one of the cheapest and most common old consoles... with the NES and stuff official systems are expensive enough to make the clones worth it, but with the Genesis the lower prices make that a bit harder to justify, with how how authentic hardware is usually better. But still, there's probably some market for this, particularly with built in games.

[kedawa]

If it's reasonably priced and isn't a POS, I will be interested.
20 games and 2 new arcade pads is a hard deal to pass up.

[Mason P.]

I might pic up the Genesis portable. Unless the Sega table top system is cheap, I don't see how it will sell. You can buy a Genesis model 2 most places for $15-$20 bucks. You can get a lot of Genesis carts loose or a buck or two. I hope the built in games are popular titles and the system is cheap.

I do like the portable NES one though. I need to pick up the new model.

I want somebody to make a table top Turbografx 16/PC Engine clone with built in games, multi tap, and a card slot that will read US and Jap games. Yea in my dreams....... I would preorder that in a heartbeat!!!! I think it would sell a ton. Think about all the people that buy a modded Turbo Duo and this could be a cheap entry into the system before they drop tons of money on the Duo.

[tofu]

I'm back in the office now and I'll be watching this thread all day.

The first thing I should mention is, contrary to what I believed earlier, I have absolutely 0% chance of making any changes to these systems. This is not like the FC Mobile II where I can request button layout changes and reset buttons. These are manufactured by AtGames and they have the license, we just have the distribution rights.

If possible, do not badmouth AtGames or their products in this thread because we do have a professional relationship to maintain. Despite what you think of AtGames they have the exclusive license so unless you want zero new Genesis consoles to enter the market - there's only one route.
(No doubt some of you really would prefer no new Genesis products).

Here's some answers:


What games?

The game list is being changed for a fifth time, we had zero input and I do not have any idea how they decide which games to include. When I have a real answer I'll be sure to post it.


And why does it look like there's an infrared port on the front of the Genesis? And will it have 32X functionality built-in? (It's a million-to-one longshot, I know.)

There is an infrared port on the front of the console, it is currently unused.
No 32x functionality nor is it compatible with 32x or SegaCD.


Any word on what the prices will be and where to buy them (online or in Canada)?

I can't talk pricing until after the E3 debut. You can expect the same distribution channels as the FC Mobile II.


...any idea what is included in the portable, controllers, rca hook-ups, etc?

The normal stuff is included, ac adapters, rca hook-ups and the console will come with two controllers.

[BetaWolf47]

I hope the Genesis compatibility is good. I'd like an alternative to that battery munching Nomad.

[tofu]

I hope the Genesis compatibility is good. I'd like an alternative to that battery munching Nomad.

I played my prototype for about ten hours now without recharging.

[Akito01]

I hope the Genesis compatibility is good. I'd like an alternative to that battery munching Nomad.

I guess that's the million dollar question. Only someone who's been hands-on with the prototype can answer that. The original news mentioned that the Genesis-on-a-chip was being supplied by Sega themselves(?) Do we know if that is still true, or was ever true?

Based on the rampant trouble getting the Genesis sound to be perfectly emulated on just about any hardware or software, I'm not expecting miracles in that direction. But, I do definitely want to know that just about any cartridge I plug into it will have a good chance of playing without issue (outside of the exotic games like Virtua Racing).

[Steve W]

Why would they want an infrared port on the front of the console and not have any out-of-the-box functionality for it? Doesn't that just drive up the cost of the machine to manufacture? I'm assuming that they were considering making remote control joysticks, but couldn't they have come up with a better solution than infrared?

[Baloo]

Why would they want an infrared port on the front of the console and not have any out-of-the-box functionality for it? Doesn't that just drive up the cost of the machine to manufacture? I'm assuming that they were considering making remote control joysticks, but couldn't they have come up with a better solution than infrared?

Yeah, it kind of reminds me of that Game Boy Color infra-red port a bit.

[tofu]

I guess that's the million dollar question. Only someone who's been hands-on with the prototype can answer that. The original news mentioned that the Genesis-on-a-chip was being supplied by Sega themselves(?) Do we know if that is still true, or was ever true?

Based on the rampant trouble getting the Genesis sound to be perfectly emulated on just about any hardware or software, I'm not expecting miracles in that direction. But, I do definitely want to know that just about any cartridge I plug into it will have a good chance of playing without issue (outside of the exotic games like Virtua Racing).

Depends on what you consider to be SEGA themselves. They have more arms than a centipede. I do not believe AtGames makes their own chips.

Many of you are wishing for a redux Genesis console that will render your current original systems obsolete. That has never been the intention nor would it make financial sense.

Compatibility is hard to test without a full library at my disposal. Once again if any of you are local to Southern California I'd be happy to show up at your house with a six-pack and the prototypes for testing.

[tofu]

Why would they want an infrared port on the front of the console and not have any out-of-the-box functionality for it? Doesn't that just drive up the cost of the machine to manufacture? I'm assuming that they were considering making remote control joysticks, but couldn't they have come up with a better solution than infrared?

There's a particular reason they demanded the system be called Firebox Diamond.

Firebox is a type of cartridge which is available in Asia. Some Firebox games have wireless motion capture controls and a special controller is needed. At this time we don't have plans to offer Firebox in America.

The only alternative I know to wireless infrared is radio frequency which is much more expensive.

[megasdkirby]

Many of you are wishing for a redux Genesis console that will render your current original systems obsolete. That has never been the intention nor would it make financial sense.

Does that mean that it may never happen? Majesco came really close to 100% compatibility (sans a few games, like Virtua Racing, 32X and Sega CD specs). And the price was really economical.

Does that mean that we may never have a console that is as compatible as the before mentioned version?

[Baloo]

Does that mean that it may never happen? Majesco came really close to 100% compatibility (sans a few games, like Virtua Racing, 32X and Sega CD specs). And the price was really economical.

Does that mean that we may never have a console that is as compatible as the before mentioned version?

Yeah, Majesco did an awesome job with making the Genesis 3, and the fact that they can fit in Japanese carts is even better.

[BetaWolf47]

I always thought that the Majesco console used regular Genesis guts but had a slight problem preventing it from playing games like Disney's Gargoyles.

[megasdkirby]

Yeah, Majesco did an awesome job with making the Genesis 3, and the fact that they can fit in Japanese carts is even better.

Yeah. I really loved the Genesis 3.

So if Majesco can do it, it IS possible.

I hope AtGames makes it as good as Majesco's. Because even though it's cool they are making new variations, if the same problem persists with every unit they make, eventually people will loose interest. And that is a serious nono for AtGames.

If AtGames can perfect the hardware (at least to the level the Genesis 3 was), then things would be awesome.

I will wait to see how it ends up. If it's better than previous efforts, I will pick one up. If not, I'll pass until they can get their act together.

[BetaWolf47]

Speaking of compatible systems, a few clone systems did come close. Yobo FC3 Plus has a really high compatibility rate for Genesis games and is the best part about said system.

[megasdkirby]

Speaking of compatible systems, a few clone systems did come close. Yobo FC3 Plus has a really high compatibility rate for Genesis games and is the best part about said system.

Hey, did now know that. Thanks for the info. :)

This is proof that it IS possible to have great compatibility. So it's no excuse if AtGames cannot deliver something of equal or better quality.

[tofu]

Does that mean that it may never happen? Majesco came really close to 100% compatibility (sans a few games, like Virtua Racing, 32X and Sega CD specs). And the price was really economical.

Does that mean that we may never have a console that is as compatible as the before mentioned version?

Heck if I know, I'd have to ask Sega or AtGames.

[BetaWolf47]

I don't know about the more difficult to emulate games, but my FC3 Plus played any Genesis game I put in it. There were no sound glitches at all except on Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Did not try the games individually though. I hope these new Genesis systems are that good.

[Rickstilwell1]

As long as they don't short circuit themselves in the middle of gameplay like my Pioneer LaserActive did while playing Sonic 3D Blast, I would also be happy. The smell of burning electronics is not pleasant. Luckily my Sonic 3D Blast cartridge was uninjured.

Good example of a clone gone wrong...

I still don't know if it was the core system's fault or if it was the Sega Module's fault in this case.

[Diosoth]

There's a particular reason they demanded the system be called Firebox Diamond.

Firebox is a type of cartridge which is available in Asia. Some Firebox games have wireless motion capture controls and a special controller is needed. At this time we don't have plans to offer Firebox in America.

The only alternative I know to wireless infrared is radio frequency which is much more expensive.

Wait, what? Only google reference I could find is a site called Firebox which is an online retailer. No mention of game cartridges. And even so, this is made to play Sega Genesis games, so unless these Firebox cartridges are Genesis compatible, or the system is built with dual compatibility, then it's just deceptive naming.

[NayusDante]

Same here with the Firebox searching. A little information on that would be helpful (and I'd enjoy a good read).

I just realized what's going on here, I believe I was mistaken when I first saw this. Sega is licensing the Genesis spec to another company, and is providing the actual processing unit. Essentially, it's a licensed Geniclone/Clonedrive. In a very technical sense, Sega has re-entered the hardware business with a new revision of its most successful system. They've also done what Atari didn't have the balls to do, they're including a cartridge slot.

It's probably wishful thinking, but if there's any kind of widespread distribution of either unit, wouldn't it make sense to sell game carts for them? "Buy the system, then hit the thrift for games" isn't the most attractive marketing slogan. If someone has Genesis games that they want to play, they probably have a Genesis, along with several or most of the titles built into the new unit. If someone doesn't have any Genesis games, they're limited to the 20 pack-ins and whatever they can find second-hand.

Pricing is going to need to be darn competitive here, and I'd hate to see a $50+ tag hurt it. The fact that I can get 49 games on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection for $30, which probably includes the 20 pack-ins, is going to be a bit of a hindrance to any high price point on this. Also, for $50, I could get a used Genesis on Ebay along with several games and controllers.

Perhaps most important, however, is video output. LCDs and HDTVs generally don't get along with 240p over composite or coax. Will it upscale to 480i, or have S-Video? Maybe a VGA port on the back? Again, probably wishful thinking, but it would be nice.

[Diosoth]

Same here with the Firebox searching. A little information on that would be helpful (and I'd enjoy a good read).

I just realized what's going on here, I believe I was mistaken when I first saw this. Sega is licensing the Genesis spec to another company, and is providing the actual processing unit. Essentially, it's a licensed Geniclone/Clonedrive. In a very technical sense, Sega has re-entered the hardware business with a new revision of its most successful system. They've also done what Atari didn't have the balls to do, they're including a cartridge slot.

It's probably wishful thinking, but if there's any kind of widespread distribution of either unit, wouldn't it make sense to sell game carts for them? "Buy the system, then hit the thrift for games" isn't the most attractive marketing slogan. If someone has Genesis games that they want to play, they probably have a Genesis, along with several or most of the titles built into the new unit. If someone doesn't have any Genesis games, they're limited to the 20 pack-ins and whatever they can find second-hand.

Pricing is going to need to be darn competitive here, and I'd hate to see a $50+ tag hurt it. The fact that I can get 49 games on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection for $30, which probably includes the 20 pack-ins, is going to be a bit of a hindrance to any high price point on this. Also, for $50, I could get a used Genesis on Ebay along with several games and controllers.

Perhaps most important, however, is video output. LCDs and HDTVs generally don't get along with 240p over composite or coax. Will it upscale to 480i, or have S-Video? Maybe a VGA port on the back? Again, probably wishful thinking, but it would be nice.

AtGames stuck a composite and mono audio output on their last console. The fact the Retro Duo even has s-video was rather strange. Upscaling? If it even plays carts with proper sound, that would be a miracle.

Sega isn't going to make new game cartridges and I doubt they have old stock leftover to sell. Except for maybe some old unwanted sports titles that might be taking up room, but they'd get more money sending those off for recycling. And they no doubt did that already. This is why they have games built-in.

I'm going to have to wait for reviews on either one. If AtGames puts the Twin Player guts into a new casing then there's going to be no need to buy this.

[Greg2600]

I have a Genesis and Nomad in perfect condition, but I'd definitely be interested if a Game Gear repro was ever done! Especially with AV out.

[Sonicwolf]

I have a Genesis and Nomad in perfect condition, but I'd definitely be interested if a Game Gear repro was ever done! Especially with AV out.

I dont think the Game Gear will ever have a new clone release. The install base is just too small to justify it I think.

[NayusDante]

It might be nice to see something like a GameGear console, as in, no screen and uses a Genesis pad. Call it the Retro Duo No-Longer-Portable and add GameBoy Color compatibility.

[Sonicwolf]

It might be nice to see something like a GameGear console, as in, no screen and uses a Genesis pad. Call it the Retro Duo No-Longer-Portable and add GameBoy Color compatibility.

I doubt Nintendo would let a GameBoy clone be made yet. When do the patents run out on The GB and GBC? isnt it 20 years after release?

[Baloo]

I doubt Nintendo would let a GameBoy clone be made yet. When do the patents run out on The GB and GBC? isnt it 20 years after release?

If it were 20 years after release than the Patents for the original Game Boy end this year.

[Akito01]

If it were 20 years after release than the Patents for the original Game Boy end this year.

Would there be a market for a GameBoy clone, though, when the GBA-SP is capable of playing original GameBoy cartridges?

[Baloo]

Would there be a market for a GameBoy clone, though, when the GBA-SP is capable of playing original GameBoy cartridges?

Yeah, it's not that logical even. Especially since all versions of the Game Boy can be found for $20 or less, unless it's maybe the SP. And there's the micro for a cheap version of that.

Now I'd like to see a Nintendo DS Game Boy/Game Boy Color adapter. That would be cool, but super unlikely now that they've taken out the GBA slot.

[tofu]

The reason you guys can't find any information about Firebox is because there is no English language release yet. It's a rough translation from the original and I don't even think the Mandarin Ping Yum makes sense.

Firebox cartridges are 90% sport based and use infrared motion capture.

Furthermore, before I began working here Hyperkin already had a Genesis clone using very good Tectoy chips yet the system sold so badly that a second batch was never even made. From a business perspective having that "Sega" logo is going to help sales.

[tofu]

Well, I walked into the office today and my boss tells me that the AtGames owner and design team will be here this afternoon.

I've got nothing prepared and I never owned a Genesis... so much for being the company's retro expert!

If you guys have any (reasonable) suggestions that I could relay please let me know. I guess I'll have to post a duplicate thread at Sega-16, better bring my flame suit with me.

[NayusDante]

If he's still there...

Things we'd like:

-S-Video
-Component video
-HDTV-friendly (480i at least)
-Built-in games from the homebrew scene (especially CrazyBus.bin)
-Built-in cheat device
-Text near cartridge slot reads "High-Definition Graphics"
-Does what Nintendon't

[bangtango]

Probably much too early to tell but......

I actually sold my Nomad because my favorite Genesis game, World Series Baseball, was virtually unplayable on it due to the nature of the screen.

This isn't necessarily for Tofu but rather the rest of the community.

Is there any reason to believe that I may have a better experience playing WSB on a newer Genesis portable which I'm assuming may have an improved screen?

If so, I think I'll NEED this machine.

[tofu]

Probably much too early to tell but......

I actually sold my Nomad because my favorite Genesis game, World Series Baseball, was virtually unplayable on it due to the nature of the screen.

This isn't necessarily for Tofu but rather the rest of the community.

Is there any reason to believe that I may have a better experience playing WSB on a newer Genesis portable which I'm assuming may have an improved screen?

If so, I think I'll NEED this machine.

The screen is awesome but don't just take my word for it.

If you know someone at E3, we do have these portables available for the general public to try out. Booth number #718

I also did have a long conversation with the folks from AtGames, they've agreed to make any necessary changes to the systems if we can find any flaws so I'll be looking for playtesters very soon.

After E3 I'll post updates, but right now I'm fairly tired and going to bed.

[swlovinist]

I might be able to help you out. I have a complete US genesis collection. PM sent :)

[mobiusclimber]

The Genesis clone would be awesome if it's open region (meaning games from any region will play on it). The games made later in the Genesis' lifespan all had region lockout (to go w/ the difference in cart shape). Would be nice not to have to fire up a Game Genie and input a string of codes just to play a Japanese game (and some games, like Dragonslayer 1 & 2 don't even have Game Genie codes floating around the web, making them unplayable on non-modded US consoles).

[Akito01]

I was going to ask if any press swung by the Hyperkin booth, but as it turns out, at lease one did:

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/42725/98/

So the Digital Pocket screen is slightly smaller? I have to suspect that the reason is because the overall resolution of the screen is higher. For 16-bit games, you'd definitely want that. Not much else was mentioned, but what was in the article seemed pretty positive. I'm hoping Levi from IGN Retro has something to post on this as well, if he wasn't too busy with Nintendo stuff.

[NayusDante]

The unit also includes a cartridge slot (Genesis and Mega Drive compatible)

I like this.

[todesengel]

That article mentions Mega Drive compatibility but is that for both PAL and Japanese NTSC Mega Drive games?

[tofu]

That article mentions Mega Drive compatibility but is that for both PAL and Japanese NTSC Mega Drive games?

I'm not certain a Japanese MegaDrive cartridge will fit.

[Sonicwolf]

After playing the FC Mobile II a bunch I am looking forward to the portable genesis a lot. Cant wait.

[T2KFreeker]

My only big question here is: What are the dimensions of the screen itself? As much as I love the FC Mobile II, I wish the screen was a bit bigger. Other than that, the system is awesome. even 3 inch screen would be an improvement as games with text on the FC Mobile can be rough on the eyes.

Actually, after seeing a video of the system, it appears the portable has an awesome 3.8 LCD on it. Awesome.

[Akito01]

My only big question here is: What are the dimensions of the screen itself? As much as I love the FC Mobile II, I wish the screen was a bit bigger. Other than that, the system is awesome. even 3 inch screen would be an improvement as games with text on the FC Mobile can be rough on the eyes.

Actually, after seeing a video of the system, it appears the portable has an awesome 3.8 LCD on it. Awesome.

http://technologizer.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/segahandheld.jpg

The info on the box seems different, but from what I've read, the resolution is higher than the screen on the FC Mobile. I guess its still at the prototype stage, so perhaps the final hardware configuration hasn't been fully determined yet?

[dethink]

I'm not certain a Japanese MegaDrive cartridge will fit.

Japanese MD carts are wider than the US Genesis carts due to the "lumps" on the side.

http://images.auctionworks.com/hi/68/68173/md394.jpg

To play them on a Model 1 Genesis, you either have to take the shell off, or remove the dust flaps and widen the opening.

[Tupin]

If the slot's not big enough, just make sure that it works with a Game Genie.

Or you could just make the slot rectangular rather than having those two curves at the end.

[tofu]

The info on the box seems different, but from what I've read, the resolution is higher than the screen on the FC Mobile. I guess its still at the prototype stage, so perhaps the final hardware configuration hasn't been fully determined yet?

You're correct about the hardware not being in the final stages.

The screen is by far the most expensive part of the system and we have to chose the right one if we want to be competitive.

[Sonicwolf]

You're correct about the hardware not being in the final stages.

The screen is by far the most expensive part of the system and we have to chose the right one if we want to be competitive.

Im still going to buy it even if the screen is small. I have been trying to get a Nomad for bloody ages and I have not been able to find a really cheap one. Plus, its a Nomad. Bye-Bye batteries and portability, hello screen blur.

[megasdkirby]

I hope it ends up great.

If it ends up being competitive (for example, great compatibility), then I will get one. Just gotta wait for the reviews.

[PentiumMMX]

Whenever this does come out, I'll probably buy one. I've been wanting a Nomad for ages, though the very high price tag combined with poor battery life is what has kept me from getting it.

[Sonicwolf]

Whenever this does come out, I'll probably buy one. I've been wanting a Nomad for ages, though the very high price tag combined with poor battery life is what has kept me from getting it.

Exactly the way I am. I was actually about to press the purchase button on a Nomad lot on eBay when I first came across a web page on the net displaying new Fc Mobile and Genesis handhelds being made by Hyperkin. That was in January, so I held off on getting a Nomad, made a forum post about both handhelds and now and I am enjoying my FC Mobile II and am waiting enthusiastically for the Digital Pocket.

[otaku]

portable genny looks alot like a psp. I'd still rather have and am close to getting a nomad

[T2KFreeker]

@Tofu; a buddy of mine that goes by the screen name Tursi, at another site, is wondering how he gets in contact with someone about a DEV Kit. In case you need to know, the guy is the programmer of the Dreamcast game, and soon to be released Nintendo DS version of Cool Herders which was released by Goat Games. He really is interested in the Developmentla side of this project. If you want, PM me the information he needs or I could just PM you his e-mail address with his permission and you guys could handle it from there. Just please let me know.

[The 1 2 P]

I'd get it just to be able to play all my Mega Drive games that won't play on my Jvc X-Eye. Any word on a final release date?

[Melf]

I've contacted Innex for more information on these two, as I'd like to cover them for Sega-16. That handheld is sexy!

[GizmoGC]

I also did have a long conversation with the folks from AtGames, they've agreed to make any necessary changes to the systems if we can find any flaws so I'll be looking for playtesters very soon.

I'm actually in SoCal - where are you located?

[Chemdawg]

sweet, where can i get one of these? ebay?

[Sonicwolf]

I do not believe this portable has been released yet.

[Classicgamesdepot]

I am very excited about this. I used to love my Nomad, but basically stopped using it once the T cells in all my rechargeable battery packs went dead.

This will be awesome if it is any where near as good as the FC mobile II

[Chemdawg]

i really dont care about the portable really, anyone know when the sega that looks like sonics head comes out?

[T2KFreeker]

i really dont care about the portable really, anyone know when the sega that looks like sonics head comes out?

Probably the same day as the portable, I would assume.

[ooXxXoo]

Alright, at this point I don't longer believe much in "tofu"...He seem to be confused....First he claimed that Hyperkin,(where he supposedly works) had the only distribution rights for the new Sega clones, but Innex (Remember the great Retro Duo) have them instead......And these Atgames systems are definitely in their final stages because they should be out by July...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqCTyDhqf6Q&feature=player_embedded

Hopefully they have fixed all of the problems that the first Atgames Megadrive did (the system shell looks the same though)...And the downloading part is very promising, including the cartridge connector that supports Mega Drive games as well....Innex is stepping up!
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