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kainemaxwell
05-24-2009, 06:08 PM
Any advice for someone trying the first Diablo title for the first time?
namzep
05-24-2009, 06:11 PM
Watch out for the packs of acid shooting dogs. You can have all of your resistances up to max and those things still kick your ass, everytime.
kupomogli
05-24-2009, 06:22 PM
Don't choose a Wizard? The class early on is awesome, later on is just terrible in comparison to a Warrior.
Me and a friend started at the same, me being higher level we wanted to see how powerful he's become with his equipment he got once near the end of hard mode, he could kill me in a single hit and the flames I could cast that could be laid across the ground he could walk through those all day long.
We didn't play much after that, just finished hard. But the way that I stood back throwing down spells and him basically being the tank, the game was way too easy even on hard. How overpowered the Warrior is I'm pretty sure he could have taken hard on his own.
kainemaxwell
05-24-2009, 06:41 PM
Using the Rogue, and this is gonna sound noobish but is the enterance to all the quest dungeons in the old church...?
PallarAndersVisa
05-24-2009, 07:23 PM
Don't choose a Wizard? The class early on is awesome, later on is just terrible in comparison to a Warrior.
Mage, is an excellent class. The easiest way to kick ass is to put every single one of your points into Mana, and always have a mana shield up. You have no idea how overpowered a high level mage is who has a mana shield 10 times the amount of your health, and fireballs that will annihilate you in one hit.
Cornelius
05-24-2009, 07:28 PM
Watch out for the Butcher. That dude pretty much always surprised me with how hard he was at that point in the game (2nd or 3rd lvl, I think). Not to mention I'd usually jump out of my chair when he first says "Ahhh, fresh meat" (IIRC). I think the voice volume on him was louder than anything else in the game!
Using the Rogue, and this is gonna sound noobish but is the enterance to all the quest dungeons in the old church...?
You want us to spoil the game for you?
I will just say that there are several sections you will work through, and each has an entrance you can use.
kainemaxwell
05-24-2009, 08:04 PM
Any suggestions on spreading attib points as the Rogue?
chrissylas
05-24-2009, 09:27 PM
I also have nothing to suggest (it's been ages since I've played Diablo 1) but I just want to say "Have fun!" I loved Diablo back in the day. I should probably play through both Diablo and Diablo 2 before Diablo 3 comes out (you know... in 87 years ;))
FlufflePuff
05-24-2009, 11:42 PM
Rogues are my favorite class. Lots of dexterity and agility if I remember correctly. It's been ages though. Save often and also anytime you hear voices (usually means you're fighting a mini boss). Also, look for glowing monsters. They're unique and drop good loot. Other than that, have fun with it. I lost a whole summer to it back in 98.
pseudonym
05-24-2009, 11:58 PM
The Lurker Lounge is an excellent site for Diablo 1, I learned a lot about the game by reading what's there. It's been years since I played but watch out for certain shrines and enemies, if I remember right, some can lower your stats and HP/Mana permanently.
Every 5 lvls an entrance/exit "shortcut" opens up somewhere else in Tristram, so you dont have to keep using the church.
& I dont thnk I ever bought anything from Wirt the boy, just a PITA getting to him anyway.
Throw your gold on the ground in town so you dont have to carry it.
As said above, it's an awesome game. I always enjoy it & prob. will never sell mine.
kainemaxwell
05-25-2009, 02:54 PM
I already have a pile of items in front of the church opening (Staff of Healing, a spell book I can't use yet, Red Staff of Firebolt, that helm you get after the tavern Sign quest, and an an Overlord's Helm.).
Opened up level 5 catacombs, go me. I still kinda feel like i'm doing something wrong-ish with allocating my pts each level up though. And i have a Bow of Skill, go me.
apogee_vgc
05-25-2009, 10:57 PM
Plenty of index finger clicking exercises, and lots of cold refreshments. Did you know that they have released several versions of the Return to Hellfire mod which lets you (kinda) play Diablo 1 as a Diablo 2 mod
ScourDX
05-26-2009, 12:34 AM
Perpare yourself for lots of mouse click. Also get yourself a wrist support.
skaar
05-26-2009, 01:48 AM
Find some friends for local multiplayer. It was a LAN game of choice back in the day.
Easy to throw IPX on your machines and they'll just find each other. Add protocol under your network card properties.
carlcarlson
05-26-2009, 09:30 AM
Watch out for the Black Death zombies. If they hit you it lowers one of your stats permanently.
Also, one thing I ended up doing was playing local multiplayer by myself. That way you get new monsters every time you resume, similar to Diablo 2. You can even grind bosses for loot. I don't know if I just sucked at point allocation or what, but playing single player never worked out for me, I always got stuck. Being able to grind on the respawning monsters helped me a lot (though I still never beat it).
pseudonym
05-26-2009, 10:03 AM
Yeah, Black Death zombies, that's what they were called. I finished the game years ago, and even got to lvl 49 - it was the highest level you could reach at the time because of a glitch you couldn't get to 50 AFAIK, unless Blizzard fixed it. Hahaha.
swlovinist
05-26-2009, 10:26 AM
Diablo...what a great game, and one my favorite all time computer games. I have spent more hours on diablo than any other computer game. I like to play as a "tank", so the warrior class is for me.
I know that you can "restart" the game but your character retains his/her level....This will help boost your character to better be able to slay harder enemies with ease. It also means that you have to repeat alot of familiar quests(though there is a chance that you will get new ones)
As a warrior, keep all spellbooks you cant read, and store them. If you find items that boost your magic, then store those as well in town. Equip all the items, read the book, and pump your magic abilities. It really helps to have a decent level heal or a weapon that steals life or magic.
The wizard character is weak, avoid. The rouge character is great.
There also is a unlockable character "Bard". He can wield two weapons and is brutal. He pretty much is just a warrior that can wield two weapons in each hand.
The expansion Hellfire, is just OK, but can add some replay value to the game.
This post makes me want to start another character again :)
kainemaxwell
05-26-2009, 10:31 AM
Which level do I start finding Black Death Zombies? Just finished level 5, got the Space Rock and a Town Portal spell. Be nice if i can find another Healing spell instead of Firebolts all the time...
Jorpho
05-26-2009, 10:52 PM
The expansion Hellfire, is just OK, but can add some replay value to the game.I seem to recall it was once rare and expensive (what with not being an official Bliizzard product), but checking eBay just now, it would seem it is not so presently.
chrissylas
05-26-2009, 10:57 PM
This post makes me want to start another character again :)
Ditto... I still have the Battle Chest. Might be time to dust that off and re-install :)
kainemaxwell
05-27-2009, 12:47 PM
Well, post your character's highest levels and stats when you finished the game then! let's have some fun here.
On level 8 now, doing the Anvil Quest, level 17 Rogue now. Is an Axe a good backup melee weapon for a Rogue (especially one that has resist to magic/fire/lightning)? I take it the deeper levels of Hell I should concentrate on getting my Fire Resist to Max?
swlovinist
05-27-2009, 10:56 PM
So it has been like 10 years since I have played, but I have started to rebuild my "tank". I forget...is there a place to store extra items in town?
I got totally lucky and scored two books on the first dungeon level...one of them being a heal book. A warriors best friend.
Ed Oscuro
05-28-2009, 12:27 AM
I played the game a bit recently (got through a number of dungeons, got my butt kicked by succubi, gave up - amazing soundtrack though) and I had stuff lying all over the place in front of the blacksmith.
I played through D2 after that, and that was a much better game + experience. 'specially since I had played enough D1 to make sense of the return-to-town mission.
chrissylas
05-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Diablo 2 added some great stuff (Running comes to mind :D) but I love the atmosphere of the first Diablo.
Ed Oscuro
05-28-2009, 01:15 AM
Diablo 2 added some great stuff (Running comes to mind :D)
Not having to click click click comes to mind!
swlovinist
05-28-2009, 02:18 AM
Ahh, I forgot that you can just leave stuff on the ground in town Heh, forgot about that one. Well, back to clicking lol.
BTW, I was suprised on how well Diablo ran on Vista...I thought that older CD games were harder to run on newer computers? I was pretty impressed.
kainemaxwell
05-28-2009, 07:31 AM
I played the game a bit recently (got through a number of dungeons, got my butt kicked by succubi, gave up - amazing soundtrack though) and I had stuff lying all over the place in front of the blacksmith.
That's me right now, I have a pile of armor, staffs, rings, armor, the occasional sword and misc lying around the center of town for later wearing, duping, etc.
Level 18 now, just started penetrating level 10 of the Caves, stupid flying demons.
carlcarlson
05-28-2009, 09:33 AM
I just bought Hellfire on ebay because of this thread. Diablo is probably my favorite franchise and it's pathetic that I've never even beaten the first game. I'm hoping the extra XP in the expansion will help put me over the top.
kainemaxwell
06-02-2009, 04:06 PM
Woohoo, won the Diablo Battlechest (used but complete) on ebay for $8 total (after s&h)!!
actofgod
06-03-2009, 12:37 AM
Gotta chime in here and say I have happy memories of Diablo Battle.net multiplayer around 97-98 iirc. Besides the normal game, I had a lot of fun with the... "alternate" play options. I normally played nice but sometimes would be in the mood for some twisted fun. :evil:
1. No item level requirements meant you could "twink" your level 1 character with all the best gear. You just needed the help of a high level character to supply you with them or abuse the item duplication glitch. In pvp, you could take on average-geared players of much higher levels and win due to the amount of raw stats on the items.
2. Duping involved dropping an item and walking away from it for a second. Much fun ensued if you could sneak up and steal their item they were trying to dupe. (It's in character for the rogues anyway) Unlike single player you shouldn't leave things on the ground. :)
3. If the item he was trying to dupe was a powerful one, keep it for your twink set or dupe it yourself in a private, password-protected room.
4. Otherwise, have some more fun. When the player got mad, reassure them you'd return it, but only if they helped you complete a quest. "Let's go into the dungeon" you'd ask, and they'd comply -- you posed little threat to them as a lower level character. A few levels down when they were engaged in fighting and cut off from escape, you could suddenly take them by surprise and slay them (see point 1).
4. When players die in pvp, they drop half their gold. Collect your reward and cackle maniacally.
5. Apologize profusely. Then be a helpful fellow and use a scroll of resurrection on him. There, he's all better. Except he's at 10hp now... hmm. *chop* Collect another half of his remaining gold (1/4th). Repeat until you're getting less gold from slaying him than the cost of buying a new resurrection scroll.
Tips for success: don't carry gold yourself; carry a few high level rings that you can sell for huge amounts of gold if needed. Dupe them if you need more gold. Carry plenty of full-health potions to be sure you win the fights, and a scroll of town portal in case you start losing.
6. Optionally: give him back his items and gold when you've had your fun, unless he deserved it. Good times for all.
...
No big surprise that in World of Warcraft, Blizzard put item level requirements on gear, didn't make players drop anything when they died, created non-pvp servers where players have to voluntarily agree to be flagged for pvp, and required you to give permission every time another player wants to resurrect you. Oh well, fun while it lasted.
pseudonym
06-03-2009, 08:56 AM
That's a lot of the reason why I quit D1 in the first place... obnoxious PVP tactics like that, and dupers/hackers with items that are way too powerful for their level, items you wouldn't see someone with unless they were doing runs in hell/hell.
kainemaxwell
06-03-2009, 09:27 PM
Well, I'm in Hell, just hit level 21. These levels really are Hell...
kainemaxwell
06-05-2009, 02:55 PM
Battle Chest came today. Everything installed correctly, uninstalled and will play later. Be nice the games came in jewel cases though...
carlcarlson
06-08-2009, 09:12 AM
My warrior hit the catacombs last night. I've put all my attribute points in strength and vitality so far, which is different from what I normally do (no dex this time). Hopefully that's the change I need, because I've always gotten murdered later in the game.
My only complaint with this game is you can play yourself into a corner. Since there aren't any respawning monsters it's not that hard to hit a wall with gear, XP, or gold. You also can't go shrine hunting, which kind of sucks.
Lady Jaye
06-08-2009, 10:50 AM
@Kaine: your copy of the Battlechest came in jewel cases? Was it a complete copy of an earlier edition or did the seller just transfer the games onto jewel cases? My copy uses black paper sleeves (with the activation key printed on them) and included a Brady strat guide to Diablo II and its expansion pack.
pseudonym
06-08-2009, 10:50 AM
My warrior hit the catacombs last night. I've put all my attribute points in strength and vitality so far, which is different from what I normally do (no dex this time). Hopefully that's the change I need, because I've always gotten murdered later in the game.
My only complaint with this game is you can play yourself into a corner. Since there aren't any respawning monsters it's not that hard to hit a wall with gear, XP, or gold. You also can't go shrine hunting, which kind of sucks.
You're going to need to bump up your DEX in order to increase your to-hit%. Some of the monsters late in the game are tough obviously and you'll want to hit them as often as you can.
carlcarlson
06-08-2009, 02:36 PM
You're going to need to bump up your DEX in order to increase your to-hit%. Some of the monsters late in the game are tough obviously and you'll want to hit them as often as you can.
That's what I always did before and I got my butt kicked. I found a few guides online that mentioned not touching DEX so I figured I'd give that a shot. So far my extra HP and strength has been making up for my low hit chance, so hopefully that will stay that way.
aaron7
06-09-2009, 10:58 AM
Loaded Diablo last night and played for a little while... I guess I'm spoiled from DII as I really just couldn't get into it.
Coleman
06-09-2009, 11:34 AM
I always thought the diablo on PSX had a better feel to it...