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BetaWolf47
06-03-2009, 09:00 PM
There's this one Capcom arcade machine that's fairly recent. You can find it at Dave and Busters, though I'm not sure how many locations. You put your credit in, and it puts you at a game selection screen. You can choose from games like Strider and Mega Man. What is this machine called?
DKTheArcadeRat
06-03-2009, 09:46 PM
Ultracade. http://www.weinerd.com/images/brochures/ultracade-1.jpg

Thats the best picture I could find, as I couldn't find the standard model that I know you are talking about.
careerbellman
06-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Multicade is one of them. Just google multicade and youll see others like Arcade Ledgends, and several others. I really wanted to buy one but they are expensive and you can get someone to make you a MAME cabinent for much less and have a thousand games on it instead of just a hundred. If they werent so expensive Id get one but...
NayusDante
06-03-2009, 11:48 PM
My family bought an Ultracade back when we did our gameroom. In fact, I just fixed the darn thing today, the CMOS battery died and I had to find the right settings to make it power up when I flip the master power switch. Here's an image from the distributor we got it from (BMI Gaming), identical save for the pong-style knobs. Mine has a trackball instead.

http://www.bmigaming.com/Images/ultracade27.jpg

With a MAME setup, there's only 20 or so games that you can LEGALLY use. I don't know about you, but if I'm going to have a piece of arcade equipment on display in my house, I don't want it to scream "I pirate games." Ultracade at least licensed the games they included, for the most part. They had to pull the Namco add-on packs because they didn't really get full permission.

The unit runs a custom OS developed in-house. Inside, it's a 1.1ghz Intel powered PC with 128mb SDRAM and onboard sound and video. There's a hard drive to hold the OS and games, a CD drive to install gamepacks and reinstall the OS, and a USB inferface to the actual controls. The USBLinx board, also developed and sold by Ultracade, adds JAMMA control interface to the PC. One of these days, I'm planning on sticking a spare HDD in there and installing Windows or Linux so I can mess around a bit. Since the monitor is VGA, I could also just plug in my laptop, assuming I can find a Windows driver for the USBLinx board.

Ultracade as a company doesn't exist anymore. GlobalVR bought them, and the original founder went on to insult the emulation community by filing copyright on the MAME logo. GlobalVR has a multi-arcade cabinet now, which includes more things like Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, Gauntlet, and maybe 1/3 of the original Ultracade 86-game-pack. It doesn't have any of the Capcom, Toaplan, or Williams stuff, from what I saw.
davidrfoley
06-04-2009, 12:12 PM
They had to pull the Namco add-on packs because they didn't really get full permission.

The NAMCO games were discontinued because NAMCO changed the licensing of the games as they were sold by Microsoft, thereby rendering our ability to install them in violation of the revised EULA.


One of these days, I'm planning on sticking a spare HDD in there and installing Windows or Linux so I can mess around a bit. Since the monitor is VGA, I could also just plug in my laptop, assuming I can find a Windows driver for the USBLinx board.

Use XOSL and you can choose which drive to boot from. The USBLinx board is an HID device so no drivers are needed.



Ultracade as a company doesn't exist anymore. GlobalVR bought them,
and the original founder went on to insult the emulation community by filing copyright on the MAME logo.

You have your facts and timeline incorrect. I filed a trademark application for the word MAME to put a stop to commercial entities selling MAME based machines without licenses which were cutting into UltraCade sales. I had contacted the MAME team asking them to do something about it, and the requests went unanswered so I took legal actions to remedy the situation. Once the MAME team became involved, I gladly handed the trademark over to them. Aaron Giles confirmed this but most of the online community was too immature or motivated by other factors to listen to the facts. Also, this was done several years before we sold UltraCade.



GlobalVR has a multi-arcade cabinet now, which includes more things like Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, Gauntlet, and maybe 1/3 of the original Ultracade 86-game-pack. It doesn't have any of the Capcom, Toaplan, or Williams stuff, from what I saw.
GlobalVR has discontinued this cabinet. It had less games than UltraCade did. We had Dragon's Lair et all on the UltraCade platform before GlobalVR acquired it and subsequently lost most of the licenses agreements.

Next year my MegaCade upgrade hardware will be released for the consumer market that will upgrade all existing UltraCade and Arcade Legends machines, and will have the option to load hundreds more games.
NayusDante
06-04-2009, 12:26 PM
I stand corrected by the man himself!

If I put XOSL on the machine, which hard drive should it go on? Can I boot it from a CD and boot the Ultracade OS if no selection is made? I've always had bad luck with bootloaders, so I'd like to make sure of what I'm doing before I go and make the main drive unbootable or something.

How much is the MegaCade upgrade going to cost? How much of an upgrade over the Ultracade will it be, and approximately what percentage of new content does it contain?
BetaWolf47
06-04-2009, 12:38 PM
Hahahah, I'm laughing because my smiley bank looks like this right now:


:villagepeople:
:above me:

Sarcasm aside, is it still possible to purchase such machines?
iloveguns
06-04-2009, 01:50 PM
it looks fun though.. lol..
NayusDante
06-06-2009, 06:43 PM
I've actually thought of a better modification for my Ultracade than putting Windows on a second HDD. I'm going to get a KVM switch with USB support, and connect my old laptop. As long as there's no issues with the USBLinx switching between the two, I think it will work rather well.

One more thing... We've already had to replace the motherboard once, when video output was all green or something (the onboard video failed I believe). If it ever needs to be replaced again, what's a suitable replacement? I've tried to boot the OS installation disc on several machines, but it freezes at "Loading Joshua OS..." If I ever wanted to upgrade to something newer, would I be able to?
namzep
06-10-2009, 09:37 PM
The easiest sort of setup for multiple games would be a jamma cab and one of those xxx-in-1 gameboards. I have a 48-in-1 setup on one of my cabs and it has 1942, Galaga, Donkey Kong, Pac-Man, and more.
NayusDante
07-26-2009, 03:05 PM
Yeah, that recent article was on Kotaku last week I believe.

Still, odd that David only registered her and posted twice. I'd like to hear what's going on.
Ed Oscuro
07-27-2009, 07:05 AM
Hey, David R. Foley made an appearance!

Where's Gary Shandling?
kedawa
07-27-2009, 08:00 PM
You can also get generic multi-game boards like these and put them in any old cabinet.

http://lizardlick.com/images/for_sale/boards/60n1.jpg

It's not upgradeable like a pc, but it's definitely cheaper and more reliable, plus it starts up fast unlike a pc.
NayusDante
07-27-2009, 08:15 PM
You can also get generic multi-game boards like these and put them in any old cabinet.

http://lizardlick.com/images/for_sale/boards/60n1.jpg

It's not upgradeable like a pc, but it's definitely cheaper and more reliable, plus it starts up fast unlike a pc.

But are they licensed?
Ed Oscuro
07-27-2009, 08:17 PM
But are they licensed?
Will it blend?
Greg2600
07-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Anybody find Ultracade games to be absurdly hard?
NayusDante
07-28-2009, 10:30 PM
Anybody find Ultracade games to be absurdly hard?

You can change the difficulty levels on each game in the operator's menu.
Greg2600
07-29-2009, 08:04 PM
You can change the difficulty levels on each game in the operator's menu.
But most places that have the machines out there probably don't bother.
Paperclown
08-11-2009, 03:17 AM
A gameroom publication has been following this story. Quite a lengthy coverage on it, and has called the game companies about it.
http://gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24691

It turns out it's alot more than just avoiding bankruptsy laws. The roms to begin with were not licensed, and the companies had no knowledge of it to begin with is what the spokespeople told them.

Charging $500 for game expansions obtained from torrent sites onto $10 flash drives, that's one hell of a profit. The deal about GNR that's a load of shit. That's just like selling a company to your wife for $1 before bankruptsy.

He may have bought the rights for VPinball for his current project, but the pirated roms and the license agreement for mame he's going down.

Q. Can I include MAME with my product?
A. No. MAME is not licensed for commercial use. Using MAME as a "freebie" or including it at "no cost" with your product still constitutes commerical usage and is forbidden by the license.