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Kuros
06-12-2009, 10:47 AM
I sold a few NES games on Craigslist yesterday and when the buyer picked up the games, he asked how I clean my games.

"Q-tip and a bit of rubbing alcohol typically."

"Oh you shouldn't do that, the alcohol can seep into the board. You should use sandpaper, it works great."

I've never heard of using sandpaper before, maybe to get off some corrosion but otherwise I don't see the practical application of it.

Has anyone tried using sandpaper on their cart games?

Giskard
06-12-2009, 10:51 AM
I used to work at a game store and we cleaned NES games with windex and those green Scotch pads. So I guess sand paper could work. I am in no hurry to try it though.

Kuros
06-12-2009, 10:55 AM
Those scotch pads probably work well enough to work out the heavy grim, I'd think that sandpaper would wear down the contacts.

Graham Mitchell
06-12-2009, 11:18 AM
What I've heard the best thing to do is to get the board out of the cartridge and rub the contacts with a pink rubber pencil eraser. Gets the crap off and won't damage the contacts. I haven't tried it myself, though.

TonyTheTiger
06-12-2009, 11:28 AM
I know that it's possible to use sandpaper to remove the corrosion from a copper wire, the kind that you find inside a coaxial cable.

Baloo
06-12-2009, 11:28 AM
I just use Q-tips and Rubbing Alcohol. If you're worried about getting the alcohol into the board, just squeeze the excess off the Q-tip, simple as that.

I wouldn't use sandpaper though, that just sounds dangerous.

jb143
06-12-2009, 11:47 AM
I'd only use sandpaper if the corrosion was really really bad. Otherwise Q-tips and alcohol all the way. Still doesn't work, then I open it up and use an eraser.

And even if the alcohol does seep into the board, it will evaporate away immediatly afterwards. The place I work builds circuit boards and we run them through a regular dishwasher to remove solder flux so even whatever tiny bit of water is left behind after the alcohol evaporates won't be a problem.

The only reason NES carts say not to clean them with alcohol is so you buy their special cleaner, which (surprize!), is mainly alcohol.

Orion Pimpdaddy
06-12-2009, 11:51 AM
I've stopped using alcohol and started using copper polish. If you were polishing up a copper vase, you would not use alcohol, so I don't think it would be the best for copper contacts either.

Kuros
06-12-2009, 11:51 AM
I'd only use sandpaper if the corrosion was really really bad. Otherwise Q-tips and alcohol all the way. Still doesn't work, then I open it up and use an eraser.

And even if the alcohol does seep into the board, it will evaporate away immediatly afterwards. The place I work builds circuit boards and we run them through a regular dishwasher to remove solder flux so even whatever tiny bit of water is left behind after the alcohol evaporates won't be a problem.

The only reason NES carts say not to clean them with alcohol is so you buy their special cleaner, which (surprize!), is mainly alcohol.

This is what I figured, the guy who bought the games off of me said he got his info off of some local guy who calls himself "Nintendo Dan"

What is it with guys with the name Dan and thinking "Nintendo Dan" is a good nickname?

tofu
06-12-2009, 11:56 AM
I use sandpaper all the time.

It's all I have available at work and it works everytime.

obesolete
06-12-2009, 11:59 AM
I'm a rub-and-q girl too for all the games that I purchace, even if they look clean, my nes is very picky and either likes the game genie or a quick hard thumb shove of the cartridge to the right and in.

I've also seen the eraser trick in action(when i was young a friend's mom used to use a pencil with an eraser to "fix" games, and i've done it myself when i was out of solution. it works almost as well as alcohol.

Kuros
06-12-2009, 12:01 PM
I use sandpaper all the time.

It's all I have available at work and it works everytime.

What grit? Ever have any issues with sanding off the contacts?

FxMercenary
06-12-2009, 12:02 PM
i bought one of those cleaning kits off ebay with the solution, anti-static spray, wipes and the tool to open up the cart.

Ive never had a problem with a blinking nes game since. I cleaned all 105 of my games, none of them blink at all.

Best stuff ive ever bought.

tofu
06-12-2009, 12:19 PM
What grit? Ever have any issues with sanding off the contacts?

100 grit, never had a problem with sanding off the contacts.

Kuros
06-12-2009, 12:57 PM
Hm, maybe I'll give it a try sometime.

fromfirst2last
06-12-2009, 04:21 PM
I know this has nothing to do with nes, but I couldn't find where else to post. I've only recently started collecting old school games and would like to know do Q-tips and rubbing alcohol work to clean other cartridges?

phreakindee
06-12-2009, 04:28 PM
Be VERY careful with sandpaper... had some quickly wear through brittle contacts once. Sucked, never will use it again.

j1e
06-12-2009, 04:45 PM
I've been using Brasso on some my games that I couldn't get to work. The same games I tried with alcohol and water and the rubber eraser. Brasso shined em right up and they are working perfectly in my toaster.

Hep038
06-12-2009, 04:49 PM
I do not know why but Nintendo Dan sounds like a good Xbox live account name.

Chemdawg
06-12-2009, 04:58 PM
i clean my games with bullets!

Kuros
06-12-2009, 05:00 PM
I know this has nothing to do with nes, but I couldn't find where else to post. I've only recently started collecting old school games and would like to know do Q-tips and rubbing alcohol work to clean other cartridges?

Yep. It works fine with other cart based games.

NayusDante
06-12-2009, 07:01 PM
I used to work at a game store and we cleaned NES games with windex and those green Scotch pads.

Windex on games... this sounds very familiar... Was it The Game Trader by any chance? In my local mall, they used the name GameSwitch.

Personally, I don't use alcohol unless a cart gives me a problem. First I'll try a DRY q-tip, just to wipe off the contacts and get any dirt or dust out of the channel. If it still won't boot, I use tap water. Just moisten the q-tip and clean the contacts. Then, I immediately follow up with a dry q-tip until it's dry.

The owner of my local Play N Trade has a rather neat cleaning method. There's special cleaning spray for PCI cards and slots. I can't remember if he actually sprayed a game, but he squirted a good bit of the stuff into a Genesis Model 1 that wouldn't boot up, and it was perfectly fine afterward.

Sonicwolf
06-13-2009, 12:45 AM
Every time I go to my local flea market and buy NES games, the guy always gives it a good clean with a sandpaper stick. I hate it when he does that though as when you think of it, sandpaper will take the dirt but the connectors off too. I wouldnt do it. Just use a light bit of rubbing alcohol and a cotton swab. Sandpaper is risky.

dendawg
06-13-2009, 01:15 AM
Recently, I've taken to using these along with Dawn hand soap, followed by an alcohol wipe:

http://www.choreboyscrubbers.com/images/goldenfleece.jpg

I cleaned a batch of SNES games with that method, and every single one of them booted up. They're even better than the Scotch-Brite green scrubbies.

Use sandpaper ONLY as a last resort.

Sonicwolf
06-13-2009, 01:30 AM
Use sandpaper ONLY as a last resort.


I agree. Its just the simplest way of wrecking the contacts. You can clean without grinding.

Octopod
06-13-2009, 02:57 AM
My local game shop they use, I believe, Simple Green. All the carts I have bought from there still have that scent.

StakeRaiser
06-13-2009, 10:16 AM
http://www.weiman.com/images/prod_kitchen_1.jpg

klausien
06-13-2009, 11:01 AM
What I've heard the best thing to do is to get the board out of the cartridge and rub the contacts with a pink rubber pencil eraser. Gets the crap off and won't damage the contacts. I haven't tried it myself, though.

This is the answer. I would advise against sandpaper. An eraser is the way to go. You need to open the cart in general to get it as clean as possible, but I've had excellent luck getting non-working carts going with a pencil eraser followed by a quick q-tip with electronics grade alcohol to clean away the residue.

A dremel with a soft buffing attachment also will work, but you have to be very careful.

On a side note, electronic contact cleaner (with silicones) is great for controller ports and cart slots.

GameBoyGeek
06-13-2009, 02:46 PM
What I've heard the best thing to do is to get the board out of the cartridge and rub the contacts with a pink rubber pencil eraser. Gets the crap off and won't damage the contacts. I haven't tried it myself, though.

That actually sounds like a good idea. I'll have to try that.

Classicgamesdepot
06-13-2009, 03:54 PM
The chore boy pads work wonders. I have been using them for years. Highly, Highly recommended.

VG_Maniac
06-13-2009, 04:13 PM
My cousin uses sand paper all the time to get games to work, but only if a q-tip and rubbing alcohol won't do the trick. He demonstrated to me how sand paper can fix games by using it on an SNES copy of Battletoads & Double Dragon that I had been trying to get to work with no luck. The game had really bad corrosion on the pins, but after he sanded them out, it worked like a charm.

NayusDante
06-13-2009, 04:19 PM
What would I do for a Genesis cart that works in a Model 1 only with a Game Genie, but not a Model 2? Does that have anything to do with the contacts?

Trade-N-Games
06-13-2009, 05:21 PM
We use 1500 black sandpaper and wet it down with windex. With the cart taken apart we barley rub it across on contacts and it will polish them up real nice.Then we wipe them clean with windex. I have done 10,000+ carts and never had a problem.

Baloo
06-13-2009, 05:35 PM
What would I do for a Genesis cart that works in a Model 1 only with a Game Genie, but not a Model 2? Does that have anything to do with the contacts?

What game is it?

NayusDante
06-13-2009, 05:49 PM
Populous. It's an EA cart.

I also have a copy of Revenge of Shinobi that doesn't boot in the Model 2, the PRODUCED BY OR LICENSED BY SEGA message comes up and hangs on a black screen. Haven't tried that one on the Model 1 yet.

Mr. GameFix
06-13-2009, 11:22 PM
Do not use sandpaper. Do not use windex. Do not use rubbing alcohol. Do not use a pencil eraser. These are all terrible ways to clean a game cartridge or pin connector.
DeoxIT is the only product that can get them truly clean. It is what I use exclusively and I stand by it 100%.

dendawg
06-14-2009, 03:51 AM
http://www.sarasotamagazine.com/blog/UserFiles/spam%281%29.jpg

Fixed.

Sonicwolf
06-14-2009, 01:44 PM
Fixed.

I agree with your fix. It makes it much more true.

darkslime
06-14-2009, 04:51 PM
I use rubbing alcohol and a qtip, if that doesn't work i open it up and use an eraser, then wipe it down with windex.

tomaitheous
06-14-2009, 04:51 PM
I've used 2000 grit and 800 grit. 2000grit works great because you don't want to remove a lot of surface material, but it's hard to fun at the local store. It does polishes up the contacts real nice though :D

exit
06-14-2009, 05:13 PM
What I've heard the best thing to do is to get the board out of the cartridge and rub the contacts with a pink rubber pencil eraser. Gets the crap off and won't damage the contacts. I haven't tried it myself, though.

I prefer using a white eraser, it doesn't leave residue behind like a pink one does. I usually clean the cart with alcohol + q tip, then use the white eraser and then I wipe it down with a q tip again.

bacteria
06-14-2009, 05:40 PM
I use a pencil eraser, shines up the contacts nicely and can't damage them.

Raven1280
06-14-2009, 07:10 PM
I use WD40. Spray a small amount on a rag. Never had a problem with my NES after that.

dethink
06-14-2009, 11:47 PM
I don't see how a high grit sandpaper would be any more harmful than the people using minor abrasives like Brasso.

Once you get up in those high grit counts, they're about as rough as a cat's tongue.

Sonicwolf
06-15-2009, 12:00 AM
Imagine if you damaged the contacts enough to make them jagged or rough. It could damage the contacts on the system too then. baaaaad idea.

Leo_A
06-15-2009, 12:13 AM
Do not use sandpaper. Do not use windex. Do not use rubbing alcohol. Do not use a pencil eraser. These are all terrible ways to clean a game cartridge or pin connector.
DeoxIT is the only product that can get them truly clean. It is what I use exclusively and I stand by it 100%.

That's nonsense. Just try a pencil eraser on a old penny and see how well it works. You don't know what you're talking about.

jacrough
06-15-2009, 12:27 AM
Toothpaste + Toothbrush for the casing, not the pins.

RASK1904
06-15-2009, 01:23 AM
When I'm cleaning my games I use a lighter and some brillo..........oh no wait, uh.... I take that back. Um yeah.....

Baloo
06-15-2009, 01:25 AM
Populous. It's an EA cart.

I also have a copy of Revenge of Shinobi that doesn't boot in the Model 2, the PRODUCED BY OR LICENSED BY SEGA message comes up and hangs on a black screen. Haven't tried that one on the Model 1 yet.

Early EA Games are unlicensed, it's possible that the game is being locked out by TmSS. Have you tried the game on other Model 2s?

tomaitheous
06-15-2009, 08:29 PM
Once you get up in those high grit counts, they're about as rough as a cat's tongue.

High grit so you only take a few thousandths off the contacts/surface.

NayusDante
06-15-2009, 08:46 PM
Early EA Games are unlicensed, it's possible that the game is being locked out by TmSS. Have you tried the game on other Model 2s?

I only have the one. That makes sense, and it might also explain the need for a Game Genie on my Model 1.