Where are the RPG's for PS3!!!!

[duffmanth]

The PS1 and PS2 had boat loads of RPG's. It seemed like there was a new one coming out every week. The PS3 has one that I can think in Dark Kingdom! People can say the high price of the PS3 is what is scaring a lot of people away from buying, which is still true, but I believe the huge lack of RPG's is another big reason why the PS3 is still lagging in sales.

Sony built up such a huge fan base with the PS1 and PS2 among gamers in general and especially RPG gamers, that those were the consoles of choice for RPG fans. Games like Final Fantasy, Grandia, Vagrant Story, Dark Cloud, Chrono Cross, Wild Arms, Lunar, Suikoden, and Xenosaga etc., were huge reasons why the PS1 and PS2 did so well.

[BHvrd]

Playing Sacred 2 alot myself, but yeah there's not nearly as many as there once used to be.

They just recently brought out Final Fantasy 7 on the PSN and White Knight Chronicles is just around the corner. Folklore is no slouch, then you have Eternal Sonata and Oblivion, etc.

I don't think there is necessarily a "lack" of rpg's but more along the lines of they have stretched the genre a bit and put rpg elements into many games like Resistance 2 online for example where you level up.

Rpg seems to have become a used element in many games and the full fledged rpg has a suffered a bit in the process I believe as alot of these games are just as addicting minus the great character progression and stories. I believe MMORPGS (which upsets alot of people) has taken center stage for the major RPG's these days and PS3 has a ton of them coming...The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms, Final Fantasy 14, etc.

I agree I miss traditional rpg's as well, there just aren't as many these days and many that Sony has seemed to forgotten about. A new Suikoden, Persona, Wild Arms, .hack, Breath of Fire, Dark Cloud, Summoner and so on would be great to see.

Seems like most of the traditional rpg games are still going to PS2 though.

[badinsults]

It doesn't help that SquareEnix, Namco and others have largely abandoned Sony's system in favour of the Xbox 360 and Nintendo DS. The RPG market isn't what it was ten years ago, as evident in the slowing sales in Japan for the genre. If you look at SquareEnix's sales from last year (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/21/790K-people-bought-chrono-trigger-ds-and-other-square-sales/), they released three games on the Xbox 360, and not a single one for the PS3. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Xbox 360 version of FF13 outsells the PS3 version. However, the bigger thing about that chart is that only one game exceeded sales of one million (Dragon Quest V DS). Sales of RPGs just aren't what they once were.

[maxlords]

Not to mention a LOT of RPGs come out on the DS and PSP, rather than the consoles. I'd say most of them are coming to portable systems now, not that none are being made.

JRPGs have a history of not really selling well recently too, with the FFs being the exception.

Mass Effect 2 and Alpha Protocol are coming...but I believe both are 360 exclusives. White Knight Chronicles is the only decent PS3 RPG on the horizon as far as I know.

[Bojay1997]

Not to mention a LOT of RPGs come out on the DS and PSP, rather than the consoles. I'd say most of them are coming to portable systems now, not that none are being made.

JRPGs have a history of not really selling well recently too, with the FFs being the exception.

Mass Effect 2 and Alpha Protocol are coming...but I believe both are 360 exclusives. White Knight Chronicles is the only decent PS3 RPG on the horizon as far as I know.

I agree that it's not so much a "no RPGs are coming out on PS3" as a "RPGs aren't coming out much on consoles anymore". A significant part of the PSP and DS catalog are JRPGs and much of the development resources have been shifted to those systems. In fact, the overwhelming majority of Atlus' releases this year have been DS and PSP games as opposed to console games. It's just a market shift and sadly, I don't think anything on the horizon is going to change that.

[Arcade_Ness]

Well there's Disgaea 3 and Cross Edge, and Demon's Souls is coming at the end of the year. Also don't forget that some RPGS are still being released on the PS2 as well.

[Solertia]

Eternal Sonata is out on PS3, right? And we've got the super-duper-new-and-improved version of Tales of Vesperia coming out later. And there's also Disgaea 3 and Cross Edge, and like Arcade_Ness said, Demon's Souls later. But yeah, I hope to see more RPGs on the PS3. PSX and PS2 had such epic RPG libraries.

[kupomogli]

There's Cross Edge, which has alot of characters from NIS, Gust, etc, all blended into one game. For this reason it's probably going to suck. I'll get it once it's 19.99. Atleast it's not Disgaea.

White Knight Chronicles was announced before the PS3 was even released and it's by Level 5. Has been out since late last year in Japan, we're getting it soon. Cool thing about this one is that you can build your own town online. Game looks pretty good.

[ProgrammingAce]

Don't forget that Sony has spent the last 10 years trying to put the RPG developers out of business, telling them they weren't allowed to make 2D games.

[exit]

I may be in the minority, but the JRPG has ran it's course and I don't mind not seeing as many anymore.

[kjmontana]

Don't forget that Sony has spent the last 10 years trying to put the RPG developers out of business, telling them they weren't allowed to make 2D games.

Yep, they fought tooth-and-nail to keep JRPG's off their brand new, 3-D powerhouse baby, Playstation. And we got Beyond the Beyond as our 1st U.S. RPG release! Ugh! And if that game couldn't kill our desire(how could we still want these?), then we wouldn't have had Final Fantasy 7! Or Breath of Fire. Or Arc the Lad. Or Silver Star Story. Or...too many others to mention! Like Joe Dirt said:"It's not what YOU want...it's what the CONSUMER wants"(lotsa JRPG's!).

[Snapple]

I have been wanting more RPGs for the PS3 as well, but they're coming.

RPGs already out for PS3:
Fallout 3
Oblivion
Eternal Sonata
Disgaea 3
Cross Edge
Enchanted Arms
Sacred 2
Dark Kingdom

Coming this year:
White Knight Chronicles
Demon's Souls
Alpha Protocol
Dragon Age: Origins
The Last Remnant
Tales of Vesperia (maybe, or next year)

Coming eventually:
Final Fantasy 13
Final Fantasy 14

[kupomogli]

Don't forget that Sony has spent the last 10 years trying to put the RPG developers out of business, telling them they weren't allowed to make 2D games.


Yep, they fought tooth-and-nail to keep JRPG's off their brand new, 3-D powerhouse baby, Playstation. And we got Beyond the Beyond as our 1st U.S. RPG release! Ugh! And if that game couldn't kill our desire(how could we still want these?), then we wouldn't have had Final Fantasy 7! Or Breath of Fire. Or Arc the Lad. Or Silver Star Story. Or...too many others to mention! Like Joe Dirt said:"It's not what YOU want...it's what the CONSUMER wants"(lotsa JRPG's!).

Well. Programming Ace is right, though. Sony was anti 2d for the most part. They let 2d games on the system, but they wanted 3d titles.

However, it wasn't just Sony. Nintendo was pretty anti-2d as soon as the N64 hit too. While Sony had a 2d game here and there, Nintendo was also strongly against it as well and had even less 2d titles. Mischief Makers is prerendered which still makes it 3d(you'll be pretty hard pressed to find a bunch of 2d Nintendo 64 games.)


I have been wanting more RPGs for the PS3 as well, but they're coming.

You missed Final Fantasy Versus 13(coming eventually) and Valkyria Chronicles(already out.)

[Trebuken]

I believe that RPG developement tends to gear up farther into a systems life cycle than other titles. All Sony consoles have been RPG heavy to date and I do not think the PS3 will be any different. Likely we will see more once there are more PS3's in people's homes.

[VG_Maniac]

However, it wasn't just Sony. Nintendo was pretty anti-2d as soon as the N64 hit too. While Sony had a 2d game here and there, Nintendo was also strongly against it as well and had even less 2d titles. Mischief Makers is prerendered which still makes it 3d(you'll be pretty hard pressed to find a bunch of 2d Nintendo 64 games.)

I remember back in the 32/64-bit days when 2D was pretty much declared "dead". Now, nothing gets people more giddy than the release of a new 2D game hearkening back to the golden days. It's like back in the late 90's and early 00's...Nintendo and Sony were afraid to make a 2D game cause they felt 2D was "old and outdated", but now 2D is like breath of fresh air all of the sudden.

[Snapple]

You missed Final Fantasy Versus 13(coming eventually) and Valkyria Chronicles(already out.)

Valk Chronicles is my favorite PS3 game. I'm not sure if I really consider it an RPG though. It's a strategy game... with... third-person shooter and RPG elements. It's hard to pigeonhole.

But yeah, people should play it regardless of what you call it.

[Daria]

I think it's the PS2 that's really slowing down console development. Major RPGs developers are still supporting the system. I predict that once the PS2's totally defunct you'll start to see a lot more next-gen releases. Developing an RPG is a huge investment in terms of both time and money. The PS2 is the economical choice at this point. Developers know how to manipulate the system and it's got to be cheaper.

You also have to remember that RPGs generally don't start appearing in droves on any particular system until later in it's legacy. Many mark the influx of RPGs on the PSOne by FF7's release in 97, by then the system was already two years old. The ps2's early library consisted of such forgettable classics as Ephmerial Fantasia, Evergrace, and Orphen. It wasn't until two years in that you started to see the sequels jumping platforms. Wild Arms 3, Suikoden 3, Grandia Xtreme and BoF: Dragon Quarter. And those aren't even close to being the system's great titles.

We're now 2 and half years into the PS3's lifespan. I just think it's too soon to jump to conclusions. The RPG remains to be a popular genre, Fallout 3 and Mass Effect were both huge hits for the 360. JRPGs such as Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean were no slouches either.

[Snapple]

It's true that PS2 has gotten its fair share of RPGs since the PS3 came out. I haven't really missed RPGs that much on PS3 because of games like P3:FES and P4 coming out in the last couple years for PS2.

[Rickstilwell1]

Most of the RPGs for the current generation of consoles are in the minds of RPG fans who want all the series from the last gen consoles to continue...

whether these titles also reside in the minds of those series' developers is unknown

[duffmanth]

Yeah I think you're right. The RPG genre became over saturated in the PS1 and PS2 days, just like the FPS genre now. I still think the lack of RPG's on the PS3 is one reason why the system is still lagging though.